The White Light After Death

[Omni]

Wrote my blog's last addition of 2014. I have seen a lot of discussion about the "White Light" after death, and felt I had contributions worthy of publishing...

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I have noticed the "white light" after death has become a focus in some alternative streams of thought. I feel I potentially have some perspectives of value to add to this discussion...

Firstly, I'd like to add the foreshadowing that negative extraterrestrial formulated psy ops often have a flavor of making reality seem undesirable. Black governments around the world(mainly USA) have inherited many methods of tainting information from dark ETs. For example the thought chakras are synthetic negative systems. Or reincarnation is negative, some sort of trap. Or that the physical universe is negative and was created to trap souls. All of it has the same flavor...

The soul is capable of being immersed in a technological virtual reality when it is out of the body if what I have been told is true. This white light could be represented by anything. The reality is one's soul is going to stay on earth if you died here most likely. And it has nothing to do with your afterlife of going into a white light or not.... It is not some grand deception to convince people to stay here, going into the white light. And I can say that confidently...

The truth is advanced extraterrestrials can induce a vision of anything into a soul. Whether incarnated or not. They could very easily instead of making this a white light, make it an energy of a loved one and an exact telepathic match of them coaxing one to go into something. The idea you have to be coaxed into anything at all is a logical fallacy. The soul is there for the taking, when one dies... A white light doesn't change that. The fate of one's soul is not going to be left up to them deciding to go into a white light or not. That is not how reality is composed in my view.

There are exopolitical rules in place regarding what ET races can do to a soul. Extraterrestrial realities are not chaotic interdimensional being fields where anything goes. Advanced extraterrestrials are orderly, even evil ones... I have educated faith that what happens to your soul(or my soul) will not be without many watchers overseeing such things. There is no reason to fear anything having to do with the afterlife IMHO...

Source Link: http://omnisense.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-white-light-after-death.html

[Craig]

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The truth is advanced extraterrestrials can induce a vision of anything into a soul. Whether incarnated or not.



Source Link: http://omnisense.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-white-light-after-death.html

Am I the only one that finds this scary? (Forgive editing it is on an iPad)

[Sunny-side-up]

Yes Omniverse , and I think the best advice is, Don't jump to the first image/s (light) you see when your time comes, turn around/look around, we always have choices!

[ZooLife]

Least we forget, "Go towards the light" or a version there of is a program meme.

https://posipesi.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/854b1946-63d7-4396-93ee-df9a46957e58.gif

[Sunny-side-up]

Hope this is ok doing this Bill/mods:


Bill Ryan

Avalon Founder

Re: Find the Buddha on the path. Kill him.
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I'd always understood the adage to be

IF you find the Buddha on the path, kill him.

Note the 'if'. It's not like an instruction to go hunt him down!

And my interpretation had always been this one...
'To kill the Buddha' may also mean that we must not rely on anyone but our own selves to guide us through.
In other words, don't fall for the trap of worshiping an idol — or an idea. Enlightenment is internal, and does not 'come from' an external source.



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78548-Find-the-Buddha-on-the-path.-Kill-him.

Bills above quote from another post/subject could well fit in here I think, with a few word changes!
Like so:
'To avoid the White-Light-Trap may also mean that we must not rely on anyone but our own selves to guide us through.
In other words, don't fall for the trap of pre-conditioning/religions etc — or an idea. Enlightenment is internal, and does not 'come from' an external source.

[Gatita]

I didn't see a white light. I saw Uncle Speck and Uncle Jake.

Cat

[yelik]

Thanks yet again Omni,

As I endeavour to understand this stuff I'm constantly looking for solutions, my reply is slightly off topic.

Clearly the whole universe is effectively a mass of energy in various forms (frequencies) where more advanced beings have mastered the manipulation of this energy ( largely electro-magnetic) by use of technology and or natural evolution of psychic ability. Unfortunately we humans have yet to acquire this skill, but doubtless we'll get there if we survive long enough.

To most people, tinkering around with our DNA, harvesting our energy and messing around with our soul is an unimaginable crime but to an advanced ET they do it because they can, albeit with certain rules.

From what I have managed to determine in the relatively short time of study of our strange world is that the Global Elites and Military Industrial Complex have made some very bad mistakes when the carrot of very advanced technologies was dangled in front of them vs enlightenment offered by the more benevolent Nordics I believe.

The world is now paying for these mistakes caused by human frailties which has led to endless efforts to hide these secrets in a bubble of deceit causing a separation in the world with opposing priorities which can only lead to the failure of society.

This separation of purpose is leading to a world where the wealth and natural resources will be completely stripped away causing total loss of democracy and freedoms. A world living in constant fear of wars, terrorism, pandemics, pollution and climate collapse as different groups jockey for power and control.

I hear many claims that the White hats and more supportive ET's behind the scenes are making progress in taking down this structure of deceit and greed, I truly hope that they will be successful.

For me I get a tad frustrated as I try to do everything I can to awaken others to some of these truths which is not an easy task in the face of almost complete ignorance and complacency of the masses, I find it very puzzling that people remain largely unconcerned, it seems people only react after being shot.

I think the only thing that will stop or change this is mass awakening caused by some form of disclosure; either by choice or it is forced on the PTB by a more powerful force willing to give a helping hand.

I am also uncertain as to the extent of negative ET infiltration within the power structure of earth, we have advanced mind control and hybrid programs making our world a real nexus. It is quite possible these negative entities in their various forms are our real enemy.

[OMG]

While light has obvious and wonderful benefits and effects, both in pratical reality and also symbolically, such as light being responsible for life or light being synonymous with consciousness, etc. Here are some concerns about aspects of Light some may not normally think about.


Lucifer is known as the light barer or bringer of light
We exist within only 4% of the known light spectrum (is this a prison?)
Light can be used to blind or obstruct vision
We cannot see who wields or who is behind the light (for example think of someone shining a flashlight into your eyes)

[Truglivartna]

I don't want to guess how many hundreds of books I've read over the past 40 years in my search for understanding, but every now and then when I'd read something that rang true for me I'd add it to my memory database. One of the more interesting events I recall reading about was one Robert Monroe had when he was out of his body. I believe the book was called Journeys Out Of The Body.

In this particular instance when he (who called himself by his initials, RAM, in the book) was out of his body late at night he found himself at the entrance or portal where souls who had just died arrived in the "after-world". He found there another "person" who was sort of like the "WalMart Greeter" and they got into a conversation where RAM was told where he was and how souls were prepared for this new phase of existence without a body. While they were having this conversation, RAM noticed that every now and then he would see a bright blob of light go streaking by overhead. When queried as to what the lights going over head were, the "gatekeeper" replied that he didn't know where they went.

What that tells me is that they needn't return to Planet Earth, which RAM discovers later on to be the case. It reminds me of a bit of prose I once wrote that goes like this:


The Last Lesson


The last lesson is…..well…..the last lesson! It goes kind of like this:

Voice Inside My Head:
“If you’re ‘through’, you don’t have to stick around”.

Me:
“Yes…..but…..How do I know I’m ‘through’?”

Voice:
“You’re ‘through’ when you KNOW you’re ‘through’!”

Me:
“Who tells you that?”

Laughter from somewhere……………no answer.

Me:
“Where do I go from here?”

Voice:
“Wherever you want to go!”

Me:
“But I don’t see any choices.”

Voice:
“You aren’t finished until you’ve imagined other choices!”

Me:
“But nobody really knows where they go from here……or even if they go anywhere at all!”

Voice:
“Which rocks did you check under?”

Me:
“Awww, come on! You’re not making sense!”

Voice:
“Senses get you here. They don’t get you out!”

Me:
“Then what gets you out?”

Voice, impatiently:
“Knowing and Seeing: knowing you’re finished, imagining what the possibilities are, and seeing yourself there.”

Me:
Ah!……This is useless! How can you know anything if you can’t think it?”

Voice:
“Chuck your mind! You’ll KNOW……that’s all! Knowing is the ‘Place Of No Words’!”

Me:
“Hmmh!”


© C. Cain November 2001

[Axman]

I have to add this in here. My dad the last few years has had some health problems and has died 5 times now. So I had to ask him what he saw he told me nothing when your dead your dead. I do not believe this and it would not be the first thing my dad has told me that i did not buy into. Just figured I would throw that in for what is worth.

The Axman Happy New Year also everybody.

[Peace of Mind]

haha. The dead tells no tales.

How can a person "alive" have the ability to describe anything that happens after death? We can only assume...

Peace

[yelik]

I don't want to guess how many hundreds of books I've read over the past 40 years in my search for understanding, but every now and then when I'd read something that rang true for me I'd add it to my memory database. One of the more interesting events I recall reading about was one Robert Monroe had when he was out of his body. I believe the book was called Journeys Out Of The Body.

In this particular instance when he (who called himself by his initials, RAM, in the book) was out of his body late at night he found himself at the entrance or portal where souls who had just died arrived in the "after-world". He found there another "person" who was sort of like the "WalMart Greeter" and they got into a conversation where RAM was told where he was and how souls were prepared for this new phase of existence without a body. While they were having this conversation, RAM noticed that every now and then he would see a bright blob of light go streaking by overhead. When queried as to what the lights going over head were, the "gatekeeper" replied that he didn't know where they went.

What that tells me is that they needn't return to Planet Earth, which RAM discovers later on to be the case. It reminds me of a bit of prose I once wrote that goes like this:


The Last Lesson


The last lesson is…..well…..the last lesson! It goes kind of like this:

Voice Inside My Head:
“If you’re ‘through’, you don’t have to stick around”.

Me:
“Yes…..but…..How do I know I’m ‘through’?”

Voice:
“You’re ‘through’ when you KNOW you’re ‘through’!”

Me:
“Who tells you that?”

Laughter from somewhere……………no answer.

Me:
“Where do I go from here?”

Voice:
“Wherever you want to go!”

Me:
“But I don’t see any choices.”

Voice:
“You aren’t finished until you’ve imagined other choices!”

Me:
“But nobody really knows where they go from here……or even if they go anywhere at all!”

Voice:
“Which rocks did you check under?”

Me:
“Awww, come on! You’re not making sense!”

Voice:
“Senses get you here. They don’t get you out!”

Me:
“Then what gets you out?”

Voice, impatiently:
“Knowing and Seeing: knowing you’re finished, imagining what the possibilities are, and seeing yourself there.”

Me:
Ah!……This is useless! How can you know anything if you can’t think it?”

Voice:
“Chuck your mind! You’ll KNOW……that’s all! Knowing is the ‘Place Of No Words’!”

Me:
“Hmmh!”


© C. Cain November 2001


Hi Trugilvartna
By RAM I'm assuming you mean Dr Richard Allen Miller, a very talented paranormal physicist, I know him a little and am reading some of books now. He's having rough time at the moment due to his disclosures, he's obviously close to the truth and they don't like it. He's light illuminati

[Truglivartna]

I don't want to guess how many hundreds of books I've read over the past 40 years in my search for understanding, but every now and then when I'd read something that rang true for me I'd add it to my memory database. One of the more interesting events I recall reading about was one Robert Monroe had when he was out of his body. I believe the book was called Journeys Out Of The Body.

In this particular instance when he (who called himself by his initials, RAM, in the book) was out of his body late at night he found himself at the entrance or portal where souls who had just died arrived in the "after-world". He found there another "person" who was sort of like the "WalMart Greeter" and they got into a conversation where RAM was told where he was and how souls were prepared for this new phase of existence without a body. While they were having this conversation, RAM noticed that every now and then he would see a bright blob of light go streaking by overhead. When queried as to what the lights going over head were, the "gatekeeper" replied that he didn't know where they went.

What that tells me is that they needn't return to Planet Earth, which RAM discovers later on to be the case. It reminds me of a bit of prose I once wrote that goes like this:


The Last Lesson


The last lesson is…..well…..the last lesson! It goes kind of like this:

Voice Inside My Head:
“If you’re ‘through’, you don’t have to stick around”.

Me:
“Yes…..but…..How do I know I’m ‘through’?”

Voice:
“You’re ‘through’ when you KNOW you’re ‘through’!”

Me:
“Who tells you that?”

Laughter from somewhere……………no answer.

Me:
“Where do I go from here?”

Voice:
“Wherever you want to go!”

Me:
“But I don’t see any choices.”

Voice:
“You aren’t finished until you’ve imagined other choices!”

Me:
“But nobody really knows where they go from here……or even if they go anywhere at all!”

Voice:
“Which rocks did you check under?”

Me:
“Awww, come on! You’re not making sense!”

Voice:
“Senses get you here. They don’t get you out!”

Me:
“Then what gets you out?”

Voice, impatiently:
“Knowing and Seeing: knowing you’re finished, imagining what the possibilities are, and seeing yourself there.”

Me:
Ah!……This is useless! How can you know anything if you can’t think it?”

Voice:
“Chuck your mind! You’ll KNOW……that’s all! Knowing is the ‘Place Of No Words’!”

Me:
“Hmmh!”


© C. Cain November 2001


Hi Trugilvartna
By RAM I'm assuming you mean Dr Richard Allen Miller, a very talented paranormal physicist, I know him a little and am reading some of books now. He's having rough time at the moment due to his disclosures, he's obviously close to the truth and they don't like it. He's light illuminati

Yelik: Sorry for the confusion. I meant Robert A Monroe (founder of the Monroe Institute in Virginia; hemi-sync training; OB training; etc.) who referred to his out-of-body self as RAM in his books. Very interesting reading if you haven't read his books before. His courses were "required training" for all military remote viewers a number of years ago (early 1980's) before they established their own procedures.

Kit

[WhiteLove]

I have not had a near death experience, but I have memory of making a dimensional shift in which I can remember light towards the end of it. In this particular experience the light was the source of the love I felt inside that was quadrillions of times stronger than what you normally feel here on earth, when I got near the light. In this particular experience the light came to me and there was nothing I wanted more, it was the most amazing feeling. There is 0% probability that what me and my soul mate went into when we entered that light would be some dark deceiving world of suffering, because what triggered the whole dimensional shift was utter mutual unconditional love. To my knowledge we were either entering the source field, heaven or some other higher realm that we were supposed to experience as one, as a new being. (because our souls became one) Before this dimensional shift took place I was already in a heaven like realm and in this realm it is not like here where we communicate with words, in that realm everything was understood and communicated emotionally, everything felt so true, it was a very deep knowing of the truth - the truth of infinite unconditional love. I think that when we awaken to the truth, we can collectively start communicating emotionally just like we now do using languages, I think that living in a world where there is darkness makes the emotions very encapsulated. If we are able to break free from the bonds that our present governance/powers hold on us, I think we will start activating DNA portions of us that enable us to do totally new things that we did not even think were possible. There is a whole different reality waiting for us once we have collectively woken up/broken free from the bonds of this world. We can exist in peace and live our greatest dreams.

[birddog]

Omni,

The tunnel of light never hurt anyone. But, if one chooses to stay on Earth after death, then you stand the chance of the cabal, the black ops government and all the others working with it, capturing your soul, and using it for their purposes....like experimenting with it. These black ops, with the help of some ETs are using souls in robots. (So it does make sense, as Omni mentioned, that they might try to put them into a virtual reality.) The cabal think they own us anyway. Even satanists are asking people to sell their souls. ( by the way I had a near death experience, and I went into the tunnel of light.) We still have choices when we get through
the tunnel. People do choose to return.

Knowing that, would they want you to go into the light? No...because you would be out of reach.

Another one, when you die, your spirit with your soul, all in one, steps outside of your body. It looks just like you, with whatever you are wearing. Your memories are intact, in that one can remember friends and family, and you still have choices, and intent, as we have always had free will. When one steps outside of their body, they no longer walk, they glide by intent. You can teleport yourself ( this is all done by intent)..just think..I want to see.(and think their name) to see your loved ones before you leave the Earth, or you can hang around. You can also call on another who has already crossed over. When they appear, you can speak, telepathically. You will find that you are able to converse with them telepathically. They can accompany you back with them, if you choose to go.

I was taught by my Grandfather, who came to visit me from the spirit world and brought many of his spirit friends with him. The truth is that we don't die. We go to another place to live with our family, friends, and loved ones who have already crossed over.. Heaven, is a beautiful place...a lot like the beauty on the Earth that is here. One can choose to be 'inbetween life', in spirit form here, or start 'living' in Heaven again.

I have been visited by many friends and family after they have passed. Some I have seen again and again. They are very happy.

Reincarnation is real also. There is no trap there. I know. Been there, done that...(as have most of the PAs here.)

Choose wisely.

[Omni]

haha. The dead tells no tales.

How can a person "alive" have the ability to describe anything that happens after death? We can only assume...

Peace
I find one has to consider that the experiences people have in NDE's are specifically engineered after realizing ETs can give the soul experiences out of body or in body.

With the idea that technology can induce experiences with a soul(incarnated and non), it is 100% feasible that some NDEs are meant to be psy ops.

We don't get too much of the benevolent ETs influence these days. But perhaps they are behind some NDEs too. No doubt in my mind the cabal or their superiors are behind some NDE experiences though...

[Wind]

I don't believe that the white light is a trap and I think that concept is at best a serious misunderstanding and it's worst a malicious lie, there is just too much NDE-"data" to support the evidence that afterlife is being protected and guided by beings of higher consciousness orhcestrated by the creator. I have no fear of death, I think that it will be a joyful event to see heaven again, when our time comes naturally. I don't think that I am wrong, but I don't claim to be right neither. I just express my opinions as they are, even though I usually might keep them to myself.

Here on Earth our physical bodies can be enslaved and we must endure much suffering at times, but up there we are totally free. Soul, meaning your eternal higher consciousness is not something that can be ever "taken".

"My Father's house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you?"

[Omni]

Am I the only one that finds this scary? (Forgive editing it is on an iPad)

I personally don't find it scary and I have been in some of the most brutal virtual realities possible. Extraterrestrials can't do much to people via exopolitical rules. The cabal has this technology at the very least, for one incarnated(Synthetic Dream/Virtual Reality Technology). I'm not sure they have the tech to control a soul's perception out of body yet though. I think it's good to be aware of it and what it can do, so one can potentially understand reality better when such things are potentially used.

When telling the truth, at what point does one hold back pieces of the truth because people might fear it? I don't like doing it. I try to round down fears though when I can detect someone might be fearing what I write. I don't mean to cause people fear by bringing up certain truths. I guess there are a certain number of truths that have a likelihood to bring fear into humans of our kind... I apologize for that...

Instead of fearing the truth I would suggest noting you are aware of it now, and finding reasonable ways of dot connecting with certain testimonies/truths/etc. For example christian themed afterlives where they see Jesus and God and have powerful experiences with them, are potentially psy ops via that tech.

[birddog]

Omni,

You are talking about black op and black op ET activities. They don't get everybody's soul. In fact, they don't get many souls at all, compared to the many. So why make the assumption that all NDEs must be due black ops work with the souls. I have had several NDEs, and neither black ops and black op ET did it.

This is pure black ops disinformation... " I find one has to consider that the experiences people have in NDE's are specifically engineered after realizing ETs can give the soul experiences out of body or in body."

The next sentence mirrors the same thought as the first, and is more of the same......."With the idea that technology can induce experiences with a soul(incarnated and non), it is 100% feasible that some NDEs are meant to be psy ops. "

Now, Benevolents don't cause NDEs because that would be taking away your own free will. They don't try and control you or anyone else.

That is the what the Cabal is trying to do. They don't want you to think of an afterlife, or your soul being free, or even that you have free will. It is much
easier to take over someone who has no hope. They don't want you to think for yourself. You can 'think yourself free' of their mind control. Choose carefully.

[Omni]

So why make the assumption that all NDEs must be due black ops work with the souls.

I didn't make that assumption. I said some, not all.


This is pure black ops disinformation... " I find one has to consider that the experiences people have in NDE's are specifically engineered after realizing ETs can give the soul experiences out of body or in body."
And what do you base your assessment that it is black ops disinformation on? I think it is reasonable to say some psy ops have occurred with NDE's, being that there is technology that can do such a thing. What is stopping them?

Also some people signed up to be experiencers before they came to earth. So it is within free will some of these experiences. I do tend to think you might be right in that they(benevolents) don't do NDE's. Maybe it is only the dark that does them to people...

[birddog]

Omni, you said...."I find one has to consider that **the experiences people have in NDE's are specifically engineered** after realizing ETs can give the soul experiences out of body or in body." ( I added the little '** to call attention to what you said.

****Where does it indicate some? In my opinion, that sentence indicates all.


"With the idea that technology can induce experiences with a soul(incarnated and non), it is 100% feasible that some NDEs are meant to be psy ops."


**Nope, it's the black ops taking the souls with their ET friends, and experimenting. How is that going to be a psy op? For a NDE, a soul would need to be in a body.
And, for the experience, one would need to be in a surgical setting. One can't use a virtual for someone who is dying. They are not going to Look. They are going to be unresponsive, and finally code, to have this experience. Now if the soul is not in a body, it would still need to be in a surgical setting.

People who agreed for a particular experience, don't sign up to give up their souls. No one does that. It is the Cabal who wants to control the souls. Those black
op agents and ETs working for them are doing all the experimenting.

[Omni]

Omni, you said...."I find one has to consider that **the experiences people have in NDE's are specifically engineered** after realizing ETs can give the soul experiences out of body or in body." ( I added the little '** to call attention to what you said.

****Where does it indicate some? In my opinion, that sentence indicates all.
The answer is in the next quoted segment by me here:
"With the idea that technology can induce experiences with a soul(incarnated and non), it is 100% feasible that some NDEs are meant to be psy ops."



**Nope, it's the black ops taking the souls with their ET friends, and experimenting. How is that going to be a psy op? For a NDE, a soul would need to be in a body.
Black ops are not able to get ahold of people's souls to experiment on them if what I was told is true. Benevolent ETs have our back there. If they allowed it there would be things like souls being stuck in torturous virtual realities for years and years just to see what it does to the soul... If there are ways to alter the soul technologically like Simon Parkes says, I am betting those are offlimits to experiment with as well.



And, for the experience, one would need to be in a surgical setting. One can't use a virtual for someone who is dying.
Someone can be put into a virtual setting while they are dying or wide awake and healthy. I have experienced it myself. Obviously not while dying but why would it not work then... Virtual reality can be induced while awake or asleep, in pretty much any condition.



They are not going to Look. They are going to be unresponsive, and finally code, to have this experience. Now if the soul is not in a body, it would still need to be in a surgical setting.
I'm not sure what you mean by surgical setting but from what they said they can attach a soul to technology in some way.

People who agreed for a particular experience, don't sign up to give up their souls.
And what of what I have written would suggest they have given up their souls? Some NDEs could be benevolent ETs helping prove the idea of soul in mankind. Who knows... Having a technological NDE isn't giving up your soul. I find you often have weird reactions to my threads, often going on about things I had not mentioned....