Reincarnation and the Spirit-form (13,28 minutes video)

[Deega]

Hi,

Today, I had the pleasure of coming upon Billy Meier material related to "Reincarnation and the Spirit-form". Michael Uyttebroek from FIGU Canada recently put together an educational video that describes the spirit-form and the reincarnation process.


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The best to everyone.

[TrumanCash]

I did not waste my time watching the video because I had read Billy Meier's "Contact Notes" from the Pleiadians. Billy Meier described in detail what his contact, Semjase, had to say about reincarnation and most of it was false. I have been a past lives researcher for several decades and have recovered many of my own past lives experiences as well, including in-between lives experiences. I can say without any doubt that Semjase's statements were false. However, I do believe Billy was really having contact with ETs and was just reporting what he was told.

A major point that the "Pleiadians" made was that it is impossible for us to degenerate spiritually from lifetime to lifetime, and that we can only evolve upwards. This, however, is not true. Anyone who conducts in-depth past life research will find that we used to have abilities that would put us in the "god" category. Therefore, our spiritual abilities and awareness have been sliding downhill for a very long time.

Also, Semjase told Billy that most Earth humans must wait 152 years in between lives before reincarnating again, another lie that is easily verified with a little research. In reality people often spend very little time in between lives, sometimes even going directly from the funeral to the hospital delivery room. For example, in my previous two lifetimes I only spent a few minutes between death and birth, which, of course, is not even anywhere close to 152 years. Sometimes, however, people just hang around for a very long time before getting a new body.

Another easily verified lie that is promoted by these so-called Pleiadians is that spiritual beings go into the body three weeks after conception. Actually, people often don't pick up a body until birth. Sometimes discarnate beings enter an adult body and completely skip the birth process (along with those messy diapers! :Cry: )

There are no set rules in the above situations as the Pleiadians would apparently like us to believe. Don't take my word for it--Do your own past life research and you'll find out the truth for yourself.

Semjase also explained that abductions were okay and that these Grays--the "Zeta Reticulians"--were harmless and peaceful. She also admitted that she was networking with the "Zeta Reticulians" and stated that they were only conducting biological examinations and that abductions were harmless to humans. Anyone who has conducted extensive, reliable research with abductees knows that this is a bald-face lie. However, many researchers and abductees are deceived by "screen memories," which I refer to as telepathic implants.

Most of the ETs interfacing with Earth humans cannot be trusted and have a well-established history of lying. If you want to know the truth about reincarnation, the truth is already within you.

TLC

[Deega]

Thanks TrumanCash, you’ve put in many interesting points, glad that you came along. You think that Billy Meier has had real contact with ET, so why would these beings were into lies, for what purposes, to what end..?


“A major point that the "Pleiadians" made was that it is impossible for us to degenerate spiritually from lifetime to lifetime, and that we can only evolve upwards. This, however, is not true. Anyone who conducts in-depth past life research will find that we used to have abilities that would put us in the "god" category. Therefore, our spiritual abilities and awareness have been sliding downhill for a very long time”.Would you accept that technically, we have been evolving along the way, our standard of living has had come up steeply, at least in America, Europe, Japan. Pertaining to a lowering down of our abilities, would you think that the TPDB may have played a role in mum us down somewhat?


“Also, Semjase told Billy that most Earth humans must wait 152 years in between lives before reincarnating again, another lie that is easily verified with a little research. In reality people often spend very little time in between lives, sometimes even going directly from the funeral to the hospital delivery room. For example, in my previous two lifetimes I only spent a few minutes between death and birth, which, of course, is not even anywhere close to 152 years. Sometimes, however, people just hang around for a very long time before getting a new body”.I don’t have the experience that you have, I had the opportunity to live two Past Life regressions where I had the pleasure to see who I was in the year 1496 + or – and in 1298 + or -. It’s more than 150 years, I’m probably a young soul trying to learn of this grand mystery of life.


“Semjase also explained that abductions were okay and that these Grays--the "Zeta Reticulians"--were harmless and peaceful. She also admitted that she was networking with the "Zeta Reticulians" and stated that they were only conducting biological examinations and that abductions were harmless to humans. Anyone who has conducted extensive, reliable research with abductees knows that this is a bald-face lie. However, many researchers and abductees are deceived by "screen memories," which I refer to as telepathic implants”.Would it be possible that with so many different types of ETs, that it might be another race using the Pleiadians to masked their agenda?


“Most of the ETs interfacing with Earth humans cannot be trusted and have a well-established history of lying. If you want to know the truth about reincarnation, the truth is already within you”.So many races on Earth, so there must be thousand of ET races in the Universe, so wouldn’t be possible that agendas are different from one to the other?

Naively perhaps, I would think that there are ET that have at least some respect of their creation, if not, it’s disturbing wouldn’t you think?

The best to you!

[TrumanCash]

Thanks TrumanCash, you’ve put in many interesting points, glad that you came along. You think that Billy Meier has had real contact with ET, so why would these beings were into lies, for what purposes, to what end..?

That's a great question! I cover that in THE EYE OF RA.


“A major point that the "Pleiadians" made was that it is impossible for us to degenerate spiritually from lifetime to lifetime, and that we can only evolve upwards. This, however, is not true. Anyone who conducts in-depth past life research will find that we used to have abilities that would put us in the "god" category. Therefore, our spiritual abilities and awareness have been sliding downhill for a very long time”.Would you accept that technically, we have been evolving along the way, our standard of living has had come up steeply, at least in America, Europe, Japan. Pertaining to a lowering down of our abilities, would you think that the TPDB may have played a role in mum us down somewhat?

I think that in spite of the obvious "dumbing down", there are more aware people, percentage-wise, now than there has been for many thousands of years.


“Also, Semjase told Billy that most Earth humans must wait 152 years in between lives before reincarnating again, another lie that is easily verified with a little research. In reality people often spend very little time in between lives, sometimes even going directly from the funeral to the hospital delivery room. For example, in my previous two lifetimes I only spent a few minutes between death and birth, which, of course, is not even anywhere close to 152 years. Sometimes, however, people just hang around for a very long time before getting a new body”.I don’t have the experience that you have, I had the opportunity to live two Past Life regressions where I had the pleasure to see who I was in the year 1496 + or – and in 1298 + or -. It’s more than 150 years, I’m probably a young soul trying to learn of this grand mystery of life.


“Semjase also explained that abductions were okay and that these Grays--the "Zeta Reticulians"--were harmless and peaceful. She also admitted that she was networking with the "Zeta Reticulians" and stated that they were only conducting biological examinations and that abductions were harmless to humans. Anyone who has conducted extensive, reliable research with abductees knows that this is a bald-face lie. However, many researchers and abductees are deceived by "screen memories," which I refer to as telepathic implants”.Would it be possible that with so many different types of ETs, that it might be another race using the Pleiadians to masked their agenda?

Yes, that is entirely possible. How do we actually know where any of these ETs come from? Is it really relevant? I mean, I could say that people from New York city are always rude, but that's a generalization that is not always true. The Pleiades star system contains over 250 stars. There's probably all kinds of beings there--good, bad and mostly in-between, like here.


“Most of the ETs interfacing with Earth humans cannot be trusted and have a well-established history of lying. If you want to know the truth about reincarnation, the truth is already within you”.So many races on Earth, so there must be thousand of ET races in the Universe, so wouldn’t be possible that agendas are different from one to the other?

Yup.

Naively perhaps, I would think that there are ET that have at least some respect of their creation, if not, it’s disturbing wouldn’t you think?

Sure. I think people usually don't realize that ETs are spiritual beings just like Earth humans are spiritual beings. What the body type and culture is will vary widely. From a broader, spiritual perspective we are all "ETs" because we didn't originate (as spiritual beings) on planet Earth.

The best to you!

Best wishes to you as well!

[ghostrider]

I did not waste my time watching the video because I had read Billy Meier's "Contact Notes" from the Pleiadians. Billy Meier described in detail what his contact, Semjase, had to say about reincarnation and most of it was false. I have been a past lives researcher for several decades and have recovered many of my own past lives experiences as well, including in-between lives experiences. I can say without any doubt that Semjase's statements were false. However, I do believe Billy was really having contact with ETs and was just reporting what he was told.

A major point that the "Pleiadians" made was that it is impossible for us to degenerate spiritually from lifetime to lifetime, and that we can only evolve upwards. This, however, is not true. Anyone who conducts in-depth past life research will find that we used to have abilities that would put us in the "god" category. Therefore, our spiritual abilities and awareness have been sliding downhill for a very long time.

Also, Semjase told Billy that most Earth humans must wait 152 years in between lives before reincarnating again, another lie that is easily verified with a little research. In reality people often spend very little time in between lives, sometimes even going directly from the funeral to the hospital delivery room. For example, in my previous two lifetimes I only spent a few minutes between death and birth, which, of course, is not even anywhere close to 152 years. Sometimes, however, people just hang around for a very long time before getting a new body.

Another easily verified lie that is promoted by these so-called Pleiadians is that spiritual beings go into the body three weeks after conception. Actually, people often don't pick up a body until birth. Sometimes discarnate beings enter an adult body and completely skip the birth process (along with those messy diapers! :Cry: )

There are no set rules in the above situations as the Pleiadians would apparently like us to believe. Don't take my word for it--Do your own past life research and you'll find out the truth for yourself.

Semjase also explained that abductions were okay and that these Grays--the "Zeta Reticulians"--were harmless and peaceful. She also admitted that she was networking with the "Zeta Reticulians" and stated that they were only conducting biological examinations and that abductions were harmless to humans. Anyone who has conducted extensive, reliable research with abductees knows that this is a bald-face lie. However, many researchers and abductees are deceived by "screen memories," which I refer to as telepathic implants.

Most of the ETs interfacing with Earth humans cannot be trusted and have a well-established history of lying. If you want to know the truth about reincarnation, the truth is already within you.

TLC

Semjase has no contact with Zeta's , they have strict rules about entering into contact , most humans do not meet the vibration requirements for contact ... being around earth humans/other life forms causes them to become ill if longer than twenty minutes ... the ET's stated due to overpopulation the laws of reincarnation are broken and people come back sooner as opposed to the normal 152 years ... the whole reason for them teaching about rebirth , we are killing our world and with wrong thinking we send out waves across the universe that affects everything ... we must have a birth stop , and allow nature to rebalance ... earth humans are stuck in the material world for not having spent the needed 152 years in the spiritual world where the spirit learns in the beyond ...

[Deega]

Hey TrumanCash thanks for your response to the different questions that I had, very interesting!

[Deega]

I did not waste my time watching the video because I had read Billy Meier's "Contact Notes" from the Pleiadians. Billy Meier described in detail what his contact, Semjase, had to say about reincarnation and most of it was false. I have been a past lives researcher for several decades and have recovered many of my own past lives experiences as well, including in-between lives experiences. I can say without any doubt that Semjase's statements were false. However, I do believe Billy was really having contact with ETs and was just reporting what he was told.

A major point that the "Pleiadians" made was that it is impossible for us to degenerate spiritually from lifetime to lifetime, and that we can only evolve upwards. This, however, is not true. Anyone who conducts in-depth past life research will find that we used to have abilities that would put us in the "god" category. Therefore, our spiritual abilities and awareness have been sliding downhill for a very long time.

Also, Semjase told Billy that most Earth humans must wait 152 years in between lives before reincarnating again, another lie that is easily verified with a little research. In reality people often spend very little time in between lives, sometimes even going directly from the funeral to the hospital delivery room. For example, in my previous two lifetimes I only spent a few minutes between death and birth, which, of course, is not even anywhere close to 152 years. Sometimes, however, people just hang around for a very long time before getting a new body.

Another easily verified lie that is promoted by these so-called Pleiadians is that spiritual beings go into the body three weeks after conception. Actually, people often don't pick up a body until birth. Sometimes discarnate beings enter an adult body and completely skip the birth process (along with those messy diapers! :Cry: )

There are no set rules in the above situations as the Pleiadians would apparently like us to believe. Don't take my word for it--Do your own past life research and you'll find out the truth for yourself.

Semjase also explained that abductions were okay and that these Grays--the "Zeta Reticulians"--were harmless and peaceful. She also admitted that she was networking with the "Zeta Reticulians" and stated that they were only conducting biological examinations and that abductions were harmless to humans. Anyone who has conducted extensive, reliable research with abductees knows that this is a bald-face lie. However, many researchers and abductees are deceived by "screen memories," which I refer to as telepathic implants.

Most of the ETs interfacing with Earth humans cannot be trusted and have a well-established history of lying. If you want to know the truth about reincarnation, the truth is already within you.

TLC

Semjase has no contact with Zeta's , they have strict rules about entering into contact , most humans do not meet the vibration requirements for contact ... being around earth humans/other life forms causes them to become ill if longer than twenty minutes ... the ET's stated due to overpopulation the laws of reincarnation are broken and people come back sooner as opposed to the normal 152 years ... the whole reason for them teaching about rebirth , we are killing our world and with wrong thinking we send out waves across the universe that affects everything ... we must have a birth stop , and allow nature to rebalance ... earth humans are stuck in the material world for not having spent the needed 152 years in the spiritual world where the spirit learns in the beyond ...

Hey thanks Ghostrider, a question, if "we are killing our world...that affects everything..", I wonder, apparently, as the author Anton Parks suggests, we were created by the Gina-Abul (Reptilian race), so if our birth rate bring some turbulances (exaggeration perhaps?) in the Universe, some ET race would do something about it, don't you think..?, or they don't need to do anything since the turbulance is insignificant, may you share your opinion on this?

The best to you!

[ghostrider]

I did not waste my time watching the video because I had read Billy Meier's "Contact Notes" from the Pleiadians. Billy Meier described in detail what his contact, Semjase, had to say about reincarnation and most of it was false. I have been a past lives researcher for several decades and have recovered many of my own past lives experiences as well, including in-between lives experiences. I can say without any doubt that Semjase's statements were false. However, I do believe Billy was really having contact with ETs and was just reporting what he was told.

A major point that the "Pleiadians" made was that it is impossible for us to degenerate spiritually from lifetime to lifetime, and that we can only evolve upwards. This, however, is not true. Anyone who conducts in-depth past life research will find that we used to have abilities that would put us in the "god" category. Therefore, our spiritual abilities and awareness have been sliding downhill for a very long time.

Also, Semjase told Billy that most Earth humans must wait 152 years in between lives before reincarnating again, another lie that is easily verified with a little research. In reality people often spend very little time in between lives, sometimes even going directly from the funeral to the hospital delivery room. For example, in my previous two lifetimes I only spent a few minutes between death and birth, which, of course, is not even anywhere close to 152 years. Sometimes, however, people just hang around for a very long time before getting a new body.

Another easily verified lie that is promoted by these so-called Pleiadians is that spiritual beings go into the body three weeks after conception. Actually, people often don't pick up a body until birth. Sometimes discarnate beings enter an adult body and completely skip the birth process (along with those messy diapers! :Cry: )

There are no set rules in the above situations as the Pleiadians would apparently like us to believe. Don't take my word for it--Do your own past life research and you'll find out the truth for yourself.

Semjase also explained that abductions were okay and that these Grays--the "Zeta Reticulians"--were harmless and peaceful. She also admitted that she was networking with the "Zeta Reticulians" and stated that they were only conducting biological examinations and that abductions were harmless to humans. Anyone who has conducted extensive, reliable research with abductees knows that this is a bald-face lie. However, many researchers and abductees are deceived by "screen memories," which I refer to as telepathic implants.

Most of the ETs interfacing with Earth humans cannot be trusted and have a well-established history of lying. If you want to know the truth about reincarnation, the truth is already within you.

TLC

Semjase has no contact with Zeta's , they have strict rules about entering into contact , most humans do not meet the vibration requirements for contact ... being around earth humans/other life forms causes them to become ill if longer than twenty minutes ... the ET's stated due to overpopulation the laws of reincarnation are broken and people come back sooner as opposed to the normal 152 years ... the whole reason for them teaching about rebirth , we are killing our world and with wrong thinking we send out waves across the universe that affects everything ... we must have a birth stop , and allow nature to rebalance ... earth humans are stuck in the material world for not having spent the needed 152 years in the spiritual world where the spirit learns in the beyond ...

Hey thanks Ghostrider, a question, if "we are killing our world...that affects everything..", I wonder, apparently, as the author Anton Parks suggests, we were created by the Gina-Abul (Reptilian race), so if our birth rate bring some turbulances (exaggeration perhaps?) in the Universe, some ET race would do something about it, don't you think..?, or they don't need to do anything since the turbulance is insignificant, may you share your opinion on this?

The best to you!

our plejaren friends have been trying to help for 13,500 years , each time the prophet they send speaks truth and gives knowledge , earth mankind rails against him , kills him and corrupts the teaching... enslaving generations with religion ... they send the same spirit with the same message , and we think it's a different person each time , it's the same person in different body just with a new personality ... Enoch-Elijah-Isaiah-Jeremiah-Immanuel-Mohammad- Beam ... the seven prophets from the seven sisters ... a splinter group of their forefathers created us ... they feel responsible for what their forefathers did to us , so for the last 13,500 years they have been trying to help ... their own chaotic past led to a genetically altered peoples being hid on the outer rim of a small galaxy with three planets around a small sun , Mars , Earth , Malona/Phateon ... one group wanted freedom for us , another wanted our death , so they hid us here ...

[TrumanCash]

I did not waste my time watching the video because I had read Billy Meier's "Contact Notes" from the Pleiadians. Billy Meier described in detail what his contact, Semjase, had to say about reincarnation and most of it was false. I have been a past lives researcher for several decades and have recovered many of my own past lives experiences as well, including in-between lives experiences. I can say without any doubt that Semjase's statements were false. However, I do believe Billy was really having contact with ETs and was just reporting what he was told.

A major point that the "Pleiadians" made was that it is impossible for us to degenerate spiritually from lifetime to lifetime, and that we can only evolve upwards. This, however, is not true. Anyone who conducts in-depth past life research will find that we used to have abilities that would put us in the "god" category. Therefore, our spiritual abilities and awareness have been sliding downhill for a very long time.

Also, Semjase told Billy that most Earth humans must wait 152 years in between lives before reincarnating again, another lie that is easily verified with a little research. In reality people often spend very little time in between lives, sometimes even going directly from the funeral to the hospital delivery room. For example, in my previous two lifetimes I only spent a few minutes between death and birth, which, of course, is not even anywhere close to 152 years. Sometimes, however, people just hang around for a very long time before getting a new body.

Another easily verified lie that is promoted by these so-called Pleiadians is that spiritual beings go into the body three weeks after conception. Actually, people often don't pick up a body until birth. Sometimes discarnate beings enter an adult body and completely skip the birth process (along with those messy diapers! :Cry: )

There are no set rules in the above situations as the Pleiadians would apparently like us to believe. Don't take my word for it--Do your own past life research and you'll find out the truth for yourself.

Semjase also explained that abductions were okay and that these Grays--the "Zeta Reticulians"--were harmless and peaceful. She also admitted that she was networking with the "Zeta Reticulians" and stated that they were only conducting biological examinations and that abductions were harmless to humans. Anyone who has conducted extensive, reliable research with abductees knows that this is a bald-face lie. However, many researchers and abductees are deceived by "screen memories," which I refer to as telepathic implants.

Most of the ETs interfacing with Earth humans cannot be trusted and have a well-established history of lying. If you want to know the truth about reincarnation, the truth is already within you.

TLC

Semjase has no contact with Zeta's , they have strict rules about entering into contact , most humans do not meet the vibration requirements for contact ... being around earth humans/other life forms causes them to become ill if longer than twenty minutes ... the ET's stated due to overpopulation the laws of reincarnation are broken and people come back sooner as opposed to the normal 152 years ... the whole reason for them teaching about rebirth , we are killing our world and with wrong thinking we send out waves across the universe that affects everything ... we must have a birth stop , and allow nature to rebalance ... earth humans are stuck in the material world for not having spent the needed 152 years in the spiritual world where the spirit learns in the beyond ...

The information you give here contradicts Billy Meier's own contact notes. Where does your information come from?

[ghostrider]

I did not waste my time watching the video because I had read Billy Meier's "Contact Notes" from the Pleiadians. Billy Meier described in detail what his contact, Semjase, had to say about reincarnation and most of it was false. I have been a past lives researcher for several decades and have recovered many of my own past lives experiences as well, including in-between lives experiences. I can say without any doubt that Semjase's statements were false. However, I do believe Billy was really having contact with ETs and was just reporting what he was told.

A major point that the "Pleiadians" made was that it is impossible for us to degenerate spiritually from lifetime to lifetime, and that we can only evolve upwards. This, however, is not true. Anyone who conducts in-depth past life research will find that we used to have abilities that would put us in the "god" category. Therefore, our spiritual abilities and awareness have been sliding downhill for a very long time.

Also, Semjase told Billy that most Earth humans must wait 152 years in between lives before reincarnating again, another lie that is easily verified with a little research. In reality people often spend very little time in between lives, sometimes even going directly from the funeral to the hospital delivery room. For example, in my previous two lifetimes I only spent a few minutes between death and birth, which, of course, is not even anywhere close to 152 years. Sometimes, however, people just hang around for a very long time before getting a new body.

Another easily verified lie that is promoted by these so-called Pleiadians is that spiritual beings go into the body three weeks after conception. Actually, people often don't pick up a body until birth. Sometimes discarnate beings enter an adult body and completely skip the birth process (along with those messy diapers! :Cry: )

There are no set rules in the above situations as the Pleiadians would apparently like us to believe. Don't take my word for it--Do your own past life research and you'll find out the truth for yourself.

Semjase also explained that abductions were okay and that these Grays--the "Zeta Reticulians"--were harmless and peaceful. She also admitted that she was networking with the "Zeta Reticulians" and stated that they were only conducting biological examinations and that abductions were harmless to humans. Anyone who has conducted extensive, reliable research with abductees knows that this is a bald-face lie. However, many researchers and abductees are deceived by "screen memories," which I refer to as telepathic implants.

Most of the ETs interfacing with Earth humans cannot be trusted and have a well-established history of lying. If you want to know the truth about reincarnation, the truth is already within you.

TLC

Semjase has no contact with Zeta's , they have strict rules about entering into contact , most humans do not meet the vibration requirements for contact ... being around earth humans/other life forms causes them to become ill if longer than twenty minutes ... the ET's stated due to overpopulation the laws of reincarnation are broken and people come back sooner as opposed to the normal 152 years ... the whole reason for them teaching about rebirth , we are killing our world and with wrong thinking we send out waves across the universe that affects everything ... we must have a birth stop , and allow nature to rebalance ... earth humans are stuck in the material world for not having spent the needed 152 years in the spiritual world where the spirit learns in the beyond ...

The information you give here contradicts Billy Meier's own contact notes. Where does your information come from?

Theyfly.com and the Future of Mankind website and FIGU.org and the Wendell Stevens film Contact ... also the movie about Edward's contact called Beamship ... http://www.meiersaken.info/ , there is too many to list , it's a compilation of about 15 websites devoted to the contacts with the Plejaren ...

[TrumanCash]

It doesn't appear that the new stuff about Billy Meier actually comes directly from Billy. And, of course, just because information appears on web sites does not make the information necessarily true or accurately reported. The information that I studied was from Billy's own contact notes published in this book (http://www.amazon.com/Message-Pleiades-Contact-Notes-Eduard/dp/0934269246/ref=sr_1_7?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1420731020&sr=1-7&keywords=billy+meier+contact+notes), published in 1990 by Wendelle Stevens. I also had the beamship videos and watched other video interviews with Billy.

Since then, however, it appears that numerous other people have jumped on the bandwagon and the story has changed from what Billy was originally saying. For example, instead of Pleiadian, it's "Plejaren", a word that Billy did not originally use in his contact notes or on video tape. I wonder what happened.

The bottom line, though, is that it is still disinformation by the Pleiadians or Plejarens (or whomever). There is no requirement or "laws of reincarnation" that mandate that one should spend 152 years in "the spiritual world" between lives; it is false information. Anyone who conducts extensive past life research can discover this for themselves. The truth in these matters is directly knowable and easier to access than what most people imagine.

One of the major problems of this world is that, throughout history, people have been taking the lies of ETs--whether channeled or in person--and simply accepted them as the gospel truth. That, in a nutshell, is one of the major sources of endless wars and chaos on this planet--extra-terrestrial manipulation.

When one makes another being or group of beings a source for truth, one has essentially given up one's sovereignty and opened up oneself to being manipulated and programmed with false information.

TLC