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Matt P
5th January 2015, 21:06
This is about as close as you'll be allowed to get to a study comparing unvaccinated to vaccinated populations. The powers simply will not ever allow this full study to take place, which would end the debate once and for all (which is why it's not allowed). Until then, we have to piece it together from evidence and experience where we can find it. This will knock your socks off:

http://www.omsj.org/corruption/cfrmap

~ You'll notice how under age 5 mortality rates increase in almost exact correlation to a nation's number of vaccines given. Obviously, the United States, with the most vaccines given (and the most dollars spent per person for healthcare) leads the world in pre-5 mortality rates. And our vaccines given have substantially increased since these numbers were reported.

~ The Netherlands 2004 study comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated should be an eye opener for all of you, no matter what side of the fence you find yourself on.

To give credit where it's due, this article was sent to me by Eileen at vaccineliberationarmy.com


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Olaf
6th January 2015, 06:38
I would be happy about every statistics that show such a clear benefit from not vaccining.
Nevertheless there are a few flaws or co-factors that make a comparison not so easy.

For instance I assume that in the Netherlands (like here in Germany) those families who give not vaccines have a fairly better standard of living and also a better social communication inside the family. People who do not vaccine normally are very reflected, go their own way and have the internal power to support their children to do so. On the other side I would bet that in the families with a low standard of living most children get vaccines, because the health system works this way in European countries. (You get orders to vaccine your children by authorities.)

There is also a psychological factor that bias the result. The results are not gathered from statistical data I think, because there are no official statistics in Western countries that compare vaccined people against not vaccined. So the critical organisations have to make polls. Now, the pro problem is: Assume that I am somebody who is against vaccination. And I or my child has get asthma or eczema though I or he/she was not vaccined. Than I would not take part in that poll, because I know that my bad result would support people that say "So you see, you have no benefit from not vaccining the children". This will give a subjective bias to the result.
(BTW: I took part in such a poll last year, because my children are not vaccined and they are in good health.)

Comparing different countries there are a whole lot of other co-factors, that also influence health, such as: bad nutriation (USA), weather, population density (Sibiria), climate, pollution of environment, social care.

Oouthere
6th January 2015, 13:02
There is a possibility that the U.S. simply has more diseases. When the Europeans came over most of the native Indian deaths were not from war, but from disease brought by the Europeans. Perhaps the colder climates also eliminate more of the diseases.

Angola's child mortality rate is 167 per 1,000 births by the age of five and they get far fewer vaccinations while the U.S.'s rate dropped from 7 per 1,000 births in 2010 to a current 6.

yelik
6th January 2015, 14:37
My wife works as a nurse and during a recent chest virus outbreak, of which a few passed away, the only patients that remained unaffected were those that had not been vaccinated, coincidence or what

OBwan
6th January 2015, 14:56
John Bergan has a good video on the topic. Dr Bergman focuses on NATURAL health alternatives.



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DeDukshyn
6th January 2015, 23:45
Excellent find mpennery -- I've been waiting for some correlations like these to come out. Similar to the WHO stats that show that countries that didn't force fluoridation on their people ended up with a faster improvement in dental health on average than those that did. Obviously the effect was due to entirely other factors such increasing wealth in the middle class and better access to dental services, such as workplace dental insurance.

This will be shared ;)

OBwan
7th January 2015, 04:13
Vaccines in the news today.

LITTLE GIRL DIES AFTER FLU SHOT INJECTION

http://www.infowars.com/little-girl-dies-after-flu-shot-injection/

DeDukshyn
7th January 2015, 23:39
I've posted this several times on Avalon -- great article, makes you think ...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/flu-shot-linked-to-higher-incidence-of-flu-in-pandemic-year-1.1287363

Cidersomerset
8th January 2015, 00:58
There is so much info coming out its hard to know what is right
or just big pharma creating cash for the share holders. We are
supposed to rely on governing bodies to check fraud, etc but
if a new strain is 'accidently' released a cure must be found
and the medical money go round is hard to stop and prove
it is artificially manufactured or released although many
whistleblowers are trying to get the information out. The
big medical universities and foundations are to cosy to
the corporations , so inevitably open to bribery and malpractice.

I'm not against vaccines and medical advances , its just
everything seems to be taken over for profit thus open
to abuse.

Some articles from David Ickes site posted over the last
few of days, there have been loads over the past year.


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Finnish Scientists Identify Link Between GlaxoSmithKline’s
Swine Flu Vaccine Pandemrix and Narcolepsy

Wednesday 7th January 2015 at 06:59 By David Icke


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‘Of the more than 30 million people in almost 50 countries who
have received GlaxoSmithKline’s ($GSK) Pandemrix, close to
800 have developed narcolepsy. And now, for the first time,
a team from Finland thinks it knows why.

Comparing Pandemrix with Arepanrix, a vaccine used in Canada
with the same adjuvant, the researchers found that Pandemrix
had more of one structurally altered viral nucleoprotein–a disparity
lead researcher Outi Vaarala attributed to the way the vaccines
were prepared.

“The vaccine virus itself has components of the virus. It is also
supposed to contain viral protein. There’s nothing extraordinary
about that,” she told Yle, Finland’s national broadcasting company.
“The difference was that Pandemrix had one viral protein in a
different form and there was more of it.’

Read more: Finnish Scientists Identify Link Between GlaxoSmithKline’s
Swine Flu Vaccine Pandemrix and Narcolepsy

http://www.fiercevaccines.com/story/finnish-scientists-id-link-between-gsks-swine-flu-vaccine-and-narcolepsy/2014-12-16

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Studies find flu shots can harm your heart, infant and fetus

Tuesday 6th January 2015 at 07:23 By David Icke

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Studies find flu shots can harm your heart, infant and fetus

Tuesday, January 06, 2015 by: Natural News Editors
Tags: flu shot, heart damage, infant health


‘Flu vaccines, according to the best scientific evidence available today,
will only work against 10% of the circulating viruses that cause the
symptoms of seasonal epidemic influenza. Additionally, flu vaccines
have been found to elicit inflammatory reactions that may harm the
human heart, the developing fetus, and the fragile immune systems
of our infants. So, do the theoretical benefits really outweigh the known harms?’

Read more: Studies find flu shots can harm your heart, infant and fetus

http://www.naturalnews.com/048197_flu_shot_heart_damage_infant_health.html

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Could the Ineffective Flu Shot be Causing More Severe Flu Outbreaks, Including Deaths?

Monday 5th January 2015 at 09:07 By David Icke

HEALTH IMPACT NEWS


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‘The CDC has already admitted that this year’s influenza strain is not a good match
for the current flu vaccine. And yet, as in previous years, the universal message
given to the public from the government and mainstream media is to “get the flu shot anyway.”

But what if the flu shot itself is part of the problem? Is it possible that the financial
investment in stockpiling flu vaccines each year creates a conflict of interest in this
public health message encouraging everyone to get their flu shots, even when it is
not a good match for the strains of flu currently making people sick? Could the flu
shot itself be making people sick, and even causing deaths?’

Read more: Could the Ineffective Flu Shot be Causing More Severe Flu Outbreaks, Including Deaths?

http://healthimpactnews.com/2015/could-the-ineffective-flu-shot-be-causing-more-severe-flu-outbreaks-including-deaths/

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The Vaccinated Brain

Monday 5th January 2015 at 08:27 By David Icke


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Feast and Famine

The Vaccine'd

Brain

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I had been invited to a holiday party and spent a heart-crusher afternoon interacting
with an autistic boy. His movements jerky and robotic, he set a chair wildly rocking.
I waited till it slowed and leaned my hand on the seat to get it moving again.

He avoided eye contact but his face lit up. He rocked it again; I did it again. A human
interaction of a kind. When he realized I'd play, his motions grew less frantic and we
took turns rocking the empty chair.

I was careful not to touch his hand; he was touch-averse and had to be restrained if
sent into panic. He was unable to feed himself or be fed to any consistent nutrition
and so was fed some slurry through a tube into his stomach.


‘I asked the mother of the autistic boy if he’d gotten all his mandated shots. She
fluffed up like an indignant hen. “We do everything the pediatrician tells us.”

“Of course”, I answered, “you’re a good mother.” And she was, doing everything by
the book and trying to stay sane in a madhouse.

“Did your son seem more settled when he was little?” Her eyes clouded and shifted;
she didn’t answer.

“After he started getting his shots and boosters, did he do alright? Did you notice
any change in his awareness or behavior?” She shouted at me.

“NO! It just happened; no one knows how.”‘

Read more: The Vaccinated Brain

http://feastandfamine.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/the-vaccined-brain.html

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Foundation of medical reality explodes

Saturday 3rd January 2015 at 07:14 By David Icke


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Foundation of medical reality explodes

Friday, January 02, 2015 by: Natural News Editors
Tags: medical system, drug deaths, Big Pharma

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/048164_medical_system_drug_deaths_Big_Pharma.html#ixzz3OBiFHGEv

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‘Time and time again, in these pages, I’ve illustrated the fact that reality is being
created for us — and that reality is false. It’s a facade. Waking up to this is vital, if
we want to understand the virtual world we live in. We’re inside a matrix.

Here’s a medical study I haven’t cited before: “A new, evidence-based estimate of
patient harms associated with hospital care,” by JT James (J Patient Saf, Sept. 9, 2013).

The key quote:

“…the true number of premature deaths [in US hospitals] associated with
preventable harm to patients was estimated at more than 400,000 per year.”
Putting it bluntly, the US medical system kills 400,000 hospital patients every year.’

Read more: Foundation of medical reality explodes

http://www.naturalnews.com/048164_medical_system_drug_deaths_Big_Pharma.html

Cidersomerset
8th January 2015, 08:50
A new article this morning....This is something we all suspect goes on.



More Doctors Confess to Making Cancer Diagnoses Just for Profit

new Thursday 8th January 2015 at 08:09 By David Icke


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By WakingTimes January 7, 2015
More Doctors Confess to Making Cancer Diagnoses Just for Profit

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Waking Times



‘It happens more often than you can imagine, but more Doctors are finally
getting caught in the act of misrepresenting their oath and fraudulently
diagnosing healthy patients with cancer to turn a quick buck from
kickbacks on chemotherapy poisons.

Why shouldn’t Doctors lie when the entire cancer industry is one gigantic
fabrication from start to finish? Is it any wonder that cancer societies
worldwide put a far greater financial initiative on chemotherapy and
radiation research than disease prevention techniques? Preventing
disease doesn’t make money, but treating disease certainly does.

Take Dr. Farid Fata, a prominent cancer doctor in Michigan who admitted
in court one year ago to intentionally and wrongfully diagnosing healthy
people with cancer. Fata also admitted to giving them chemotherapy
drugs for the purpose of making a profit.’

Read more: More Doctors Confess to Making Cancer Diagnoses Just for Profit

http://www.wakingtimes.com/2015/01/07/doctors-confess-making-cancer-diagnoses-just-profit/

onawah
13th January 2015, 18:48
Medical doctor speaks out about the dangers of vaccines and what you need to know
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(NaturalHealth365) Dr. Suzanne Humphries is a kidney specialist and medical doctor who started to notice a disturbing trend in her patients. Sadly, the vast majority of conventionally-trained doctors barely even notice a danger to the public.
A large number of her patients were experiencing illnesses from vaccines, in particular kidney damage and outright kidney failure. While her views are never showcased in the mainstream news, an interview that was conducted while she was speaking in Sweden has made it to YouTube and is starting to receive some much-needed attention.


In this video interview, Dr. Humphries puts forward multiple arguments against the efficacy of vaccines. To start, the injection process exposes the body to viruses in a much different manner than how most natural infections occur.
For example, measles is usually contracted via inhaling it, resulting in a fundamentally different immune response than by injection. Vaccines also contain far more than just the virus; harmful chemicals such as aluminum, mercury, formaldehyde and polysorbate 80 are also introduced into the bloodstream.
The scientific evidence – against vaccines – continues to grow
Dr. Humphries says she became motivated to research vaccines when she saw people close to her injured by them. She feels her medical training has misled and misinformed her, and that many other doctors are misled and misinformed as well.
Based on her research, Dr. Humphries does not believe vaccines increase a population’s health or general human health. She says there is a lack of historical evidence that a vaccine has ever actually eradicated a disease, despite statements to the contrary. In fact, in some cases the data shows that the disease rates have gone down once vaccinations of a population were ceased.
While “pro-vaccine” groups point to studies, Dr. Humphries says no study she has seen proves definitively that vaccines are safe. She says she has more scientific reason to believe that vaccine components can compromise the immune system and lead to issues like neurological problems and cancer.
A warning about vaccine policy and Western medical practice
Those who are for vaccination tend to be very aggressive and closed off to opposing views and evidence, which is always a red flag. They use fear tactics, spread disinformation, withhold information or share only biased, one-sided data on vaccine safety.
Even the prestigious Mayo Clinic advocates a “persuade rather than inform” approach and dissuades health professionals from leaving printed materials such as brochures with clients or following up with them via email.
Dr. Humphries now advocates finding natural ways to take care of the body and strengthen the immune system as an alternative to vaccines. Ultimately, every person should have a choice in the matter based upon a forthright presentation of the facts about vaccine safety.
As for Dr. Suzanne Humphries, she states, “I don’t believe in vaccines. I don’t even believe a little bit in vaccines. I believe they can do more harm to me than I may ever be able to make up for.” The mainstream media all but censors alternative viewpoints expressed in this report. Ultimately, we must educated ourselves and, as always, make an informed decision.
References:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpC0Tbb3diI&feature=youtu.be
http://www.immunizeusa.org/media/29064/making_the_case_for_vaccines_mnaap.pdf
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OBwan
19th January 2015, 06:21
John Bergman has a good video on the topic focusing on vaccines.

At time 16:55 he discusses the warning materials from the drug manufacture that indicates that Autism can occur.

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OBwan
26th April 2015, 16:16
The following text regarding revealing that vaccines are tied to autism is from the naturalnews.com website. The reference document is titled “CONFIDENTIAL TO REGULATORY AUTHORITIES”. I am thankful that this type of information is now coming into the public domain for it allows for parents to make an informed decision.

(NaturalNews) While the debate rages on about whether or not vaccines cause autism, a confidential document has surfaced that makes clear what science has led Natural News readers to believe: Yes, vaccines are linked to autism.

The document,[PDF] which runs over 1,000 pages, is from the fraudulent and corrupt GlaxoSmithKline. Several hundred pages in, it's revealed that vaccines are tied to autism. It's blatantly outlined in a chart, along with a long list of other conditions caused by vaccines, including "motor development delay," "tremor" and "altered state of consciousness." Autism is listed in this chart as a nervous system and mental impairment disorder associated with receiving GSK's Infanrix hexa vaccine.(1)

Signed by Dr. Felix Arellano, the Vice President and Head of Biological Safety and Pharmacovigilance of GlaxoSmithKline Biologicals, the document's introduction states:

This summary bridging report integrates the information presented in the two Combined Diphtheria, Tetanus and Acellular Pertussis, Hepatitis B enhanced Inactivated Poliomyelitis and Haemophilus influenzae type B vaccine (Infanrix™ hexa) periodic safety update reports (PSURs) covering the two year period from 23 October 2009 to 22 October 2011.(1

Website pointer:

http://www.naturalnews.com/049458_autism_Infanrix_vaccine_GlaxoSmithKline.html#ixzz3YQpyM2ZS

1000 page document:

https://autismoevaccini.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/vaccin-dc3a9cc3a8s.pdf

OBwan
29th May 2015, 13:03
The DTP vaccine does have the adverse effect as documented in the package insert. The following is from page 11 of the package insert.

Adverse events reported during post-approval use of Tripedia vaccine include idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, SIDS, anaphylactic reaction, cellulitis, autism, convulsion/grand mal convulsion, encephalopathy, hypotonia, neuropathy, somnolence and apnea. Events were included in this list because of the seriousness or frequency of reporting.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/BiologicsBloodVaccines/Vaccines/ApprovedProducts/UCM101580.pdf