Toyota releases Hydrogen car technology to world....

[sheme]

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/01/06/1516200/toyota-opens-patents-on-hydrogen-fuel-cell-technology


Just caught this on the news- it seems that Toyota wishes to get the rest of the world interested in hydrogen fuel cells - in an effort to boost the hydrogen fuel cell tech/infrastructure Toyota released it's tech for the world to embrace, I wonder if this is why they got zapped with nuclear devastation way back when the tsunami
hit the island.

[Jayren]

Let the miracles commence

[Pweeky]

I remember reading the report about Toyota's hydrogen car in 1987...they have taken their time.

[bluestflame]

maybe this is the real reason behind the current low oil/fuel prices

[lucidity]

maybe this is the real reason behind the current low oil/fuel prices

I believe.... the crashing of oil prices is actually part of the 'cold war' against Russia.
The US wants to crash the Russian economy and/or create circumstances ripe for the removal of Putin (regime change)
(The Russian economy has come to rely upon oil and gas revenues... hence the crashing of the ruble recently)
Why are they attacking russia ? Because the Russians are perceived as initiating an 'aggressive' attack
upon US economic interests by promoting the abandonment of the US Dollar in internation trade.
Though, in reality, this was a Russia-China initiative...
but China hasn't been similarly attacked... at least, not yet.

However, the low oil prices hurts the americans too,
and it hurts middle eastern allies and european allies.
The oil price can't stay low for too long... the 'allies' will rebel, the alliance will break up.
Mark my words... the oil price will bounce back up in 2015.

be happy

lucidity :-)

[eagle0027]

Just another carrot ,trying to convince us that they actually are going to do something /anything other than hydrocarbon type fuel.Kind of like the 900 h.p car running on alternative fuel at the huge car show in europe recently.When asked when it would be on the market......the promoter says.....oh oh noooo its just for research. uhuh..
I thinks the only way hydrogen is going to work in existing type of transportation is when it is being created onboard.Huge storage tanks all over the planet to fuel cars is whacko.In fact I am sure that is exactly what Stanley Meyer(and his dune buggy) was ready to market when he was...uhhhhh yip poisoned.

Anyhow ___I have felt for quite some time that the only way vast amounts of broad reaching new tech will ever get out to people like us is if it is gifted to the inhabitants of the planet------not to even attempt to patent or make money off of it.......and this medium.....the interntet flooded to the extent that it cant be bought up or put back in the box.

I find this whole part of humanity painfully stupid.......we all should have been booting around in our little flying units like the jettisons at probably the same time they were----100 years now of buried brilliance of Tesla alone.

Sorry everyone for not providing links to the above mentioned......my wifi is about dial up spd. right now so searching for anything takes hrs.

be well.....Eagle

[Octavusprime]

maybe this is the real reason behind the current low oil/fuel prices

I believe.... the crashing of oil prices is actually part of the 'cold war' against Russia.
The US wants to crash the Russian economy and/or create circumstances ripe for the removal of Putin (regime change)
(The Russian economy has come to rely upon oil and gas revenues... hence the crashing of the ruble recently)
Why are they attacking russia ? Because the Russians are perceived as initiating an 'aggressive' attack
upon US economic interests by promoting the abandonment of the US Dollar in internation trade.
Though, in reality, this was a Russia-China initiative...
but China hasn't been similarly attacked... at least, not yet.

However, the low oil prices hurts the americans too,
and it hurts middle eastern allies and european allies.
The oil price can't stay low for too long... the 'allies' will rebel, the alliance will break up.
Mark my words... the oil price will bounce back up in 2015.

be happy

lucidity :-)

I think this is part of the truth. OPEC AND Russia are not slowing their oil production. In the past OPEC has throttled down production when prices start to dive, in this case they are actually going full tilt. OPEC along with Russia are INTENTIONALLY DRIVING OIL PRICES DOWN!

Why would they do that? I've heard theories that they want to crush the up and coming Fracking industry in North America. Basically by making oil cheap they are trying to dissuade investment into this industry. Whatever it is, there are some giant games of chess going on in the world political theater.

Edit: More than likely the banksters are manipulating the oil market down so that they can buy as much cheap oil/bonds as possible before they unleash $5-$10 a gallon gasoline onto the US market. Give a little up front so that they can reap the rewards on the back end. Classic.

[Octavusprime]

Didn't mean to derail this thread. I really hope Toyota can bring hydrogen to market. If any car manufacturer has the capacity and know-how, it's Toyota.

[sigma6]

Didn't mean to derail this thread. I really hope Toyota can bring hydrogen to market. If any car manufacturer has the capacity and know-how, it's Toyota.

agreed, they can and they are, and it will lay the groundwork for water cars eventually, but "they" (the evil ones) can't do anything about a hydrogen station dependent vehicle... why else would a "genius" like Tesla diss it? To me that's like a sure sign it's a real threat...

because it is the anti-thesis to his dream of turning the world into a garbage dump full of billions of dead batteries... and to think he is doing it on government subsidies (our taxes... our labour... our energy)

[TargeT]

toyota is releasing a car, so is honda... it's definitely coming, more here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62082-Technological-advances-that-will-directly-affect-you-in-the-next-2-years&p=1014024&viewfull=1#post1014024)

they already have functional fuel cells and are looking at releasing a home-refueling station (create your own hydrogen gas for the fuel cells).

[sigma6]

toyota is releasing a car, so is honda... it's definitely coming, more here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?62082-Technological-advances-that-will-directly-affect-you-in-the-next-2-years&p=1014024&viewfull=1#post1014024)

they already have functional fuel cells and are looking at releasing a home-refueling station (create your own hydrogen gas for the fuel cells).

this is so awesome I have to re-past it here... and to think it still in it's infancy...



TOKYO — The most notable thing about Honda Motor new hydrogen-powered FCV, to be unveiled Wednesday at the Tokyo Motor Show, is not the silent burst of acceleration it provides when your foot touches the pedal, or the fact that it emits nothing but water vapor from the tailpipe. It’s not even that the FCV can go more than 400 miles between three-minute hydrogen fillings - assuming you have access to a hydrogen station.

No, the most important thing is that Honda’s new fuel cell system is one-tenth the cost of previous versions and — for the first time — fits neatly under the car’s hood, taking up no more space than a typical V-6 engine. That means two things: 1) there’s more space for passengers and cargo, and 2) the compact fuel cell power train can be used in a variety of other Honda vehicles.

This really does feel like a real leap forward in the shift toward fuel cell vehicles and a so-called “hydrogen society.”

Of course, getting the hydrogen remains a sticking point. In California and the Northeast, companies like First Element and Air Liquide are installing hydrogen stations with support from government grants as well as loans from Toyota and Honda, but the rollout to date has been slow.

Honda might have a solution, though: it’s developing a compact Smart Hydrogen Station, enabling you to use high-pressure electrolysis to produce your own hydrogen at home. There’s no word on when that might be available, but if it’s affordable, it could be a huge breakthrough in speeding the adoption of fuel cell vehicles.

Honda’s new fuel cell goes on sale next spring (about six months behind Toyota Motor's ‘s recently introduced Mirai fuel cell) and the automaker expects to sell far more than the 72 units sold of its previous-generation fuel cell, the FCX Clarity. Honda said the same platform will also underpin a new plug-in hybrid vehicle, coming shortly after the fuel cell vehicle’s launch. Honda said it sees plug-in hybrids as an important bridge toward hydrogen-powered fuel cells.

“Compared to 10 years ago, I think fuel cell vehicles have developed significantly in terms of the technology,” said Takahiro Hachigo, who took over as Honda’s president and chief executive in June. “Ten years ago, we said fuel cells could not be driven in cold weather, for example, and that the hardware was too heavy. Today – fuel cells are equal to gasoline engine cars.” The next step, he said, is figuring out how to mass produce them affordably. Honda is partnering with General Motors GM -2.94% to develop next-generation fuel cell systems and lower-cost hydrogen storage tanks.
More details about Honda FCV — including its real name — will likely be disclosed at Wednesday’s press conference, but Honda gave journalists a preview of the car at an advanced technology presentation at its Research and Development Center outside Tokyo.

Despite its compact size, the new fuel cell system gets a 30 percent increase in power, to 130 kilowatts, with a 700-kilometer (435 mile) range. It’s paired with a flat lithium-ion battery pack that fits under the front seats. There are two hydrogen tanks: a large one that fits behind the rear bulkhead, with a smaller one under the rear seat. The larger tank clearly cuts into trunk space, but there’s still a decent amount of room for golf bags or luggage.

Virtually every automaker is working on fuel cell vehicles; it’ll be interesting to see how they develop. Just as with hybrid vehicles a generation ago, it’s Honda and Toyota leading the way.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/joannmul...rtner=yahootix


and the car itself looks pretty awesome too, I could definitely drive that around...

http://blogs-images.forbes.com/joannmuller/files/2015/10/FCV-01-e1445958356365-1940x1090.jpg