if chickens could speak..........

[shiva777]

so many people claim to be animal lovers yet they continue to eat animals and support the people who profit from animals that have been bred,raised and slaughtered with no love at all....if chickens could speak...and when your spiritual channels open you will KNOW that they can...they may say this

http://planetofthemonyets.blogspot.com/2010/10/if-chickens-could-speak.html

[wynderer]

Hi Shiva777 -- i have visited a 'factory farm' for chickens twice in my life -- visits to hell, for me

here's a video from a Slovenian band, Supersoul Connection --
'No to Violence [aka 'Enough of Blood'] [sung in English]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xn9qWnGbZtw

[heyokah]

“In most of the world, it is accepted that if animals are to be killed for food…they should be killed without suffering… there is no humane slaughter requirement for wild fish caught and killed at sea, nor, in most places, for farmed fish. Fish caught in nets by trawlers are dumped on board the ship and allowed to suffocate…Last year, a scientific panel to the European Union concluded that [the] evidence indicates that fish do feel pain…the evidence is now accumulating that commercial fishing inflicts an unimaginable amount of pain and suffering.”

~~

[B]"If Fish Could Scream"

Thought-provoking essay

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/singer66/English

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[wynderer]

“In most of the world, it is accepted that if animals are to be killed for food…they should be killed without suffering… there is no humane slaughter requirement for wild fish caught and killed at sea, nor, in most places, for farmed fish. Fish caught in nets by trawlers are dumped on board the ship and allowed to suffocate…Last year, a scientific panel to the European Union concluded that [the] evidence indicates that fish do feel pain…the evidence is now accumulating that commercial fishing inflicts an unimaginable amount of pain and suffering.”

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[B]"If Fish Could Scream"

Thought-provoking essay

http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/singer66/English

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when i lived in Alaska, i went out on a longline fishing boat -- pretty awful -- the many 'trash' fish have the hooks ripped out of their mouths & are thrown overboard -- behind the boat was a long, wide trail of blood

i think that the reptilians & other dark entities feed on the pain & suffering of all sentient beings on this planet, not just on that of humans

[Arpheus]

I gave up meat 6 7 months ago,it feels great and wasn't as hard as i thought it would have been,i still eat seafood very rarely but am hoping to eventually rid my menu of anything that breathes and has two eyes.

[Beth]

Doubt any would like to hear what my rooster, Ricky, has to say. He's a first class jerk!!!

[Peace of Mind]

They can express themselves very well, most just don't want to see the obvious signs. If they could speak Human language, they would say something like " don't eat me"!! But would we listen? hmmm...very telling.

Peace

[Solphilos]

so many people claim to be animal lovers yet they continue to eat animals and support the people who profit from animals that have been bred,raised and slaughtered with no love at all....if chickens could speak...and when your spiritual channels open you will KNOW that they can...they may say this

http://planetofthemonyets.blogspot.com/2010/10/if-chickens-could-speak.html

Well, it is unfortunate that the meat industry is the way it is. It is more unfortunate that millions of people rely upon that same industry to survive.
Just as the many who are aware of the atrocities committed in the name of oil will continue driving cars, people will also continue to buy meat products because, well, they have to.

Of course, there is but little anyone can do about the fact. Those who are able can hunt their own and avoid supporting the industry, those with the financial resources can buy from more reputable sources, or even go vegan/vegetarian and avoid the industry all-together. Aside from this, there will always be millions of others who have no choice but to continue buying from the same sources. Them alone will keep the industry flourishing.

[shiva777]

you said "Just as the many who are aware of the atrocities committed in the name of oil will continue driving cars, people will also continue to buy meat products because, well, they have to."

the point IS that they don't "have to",it is conditioned in to us that we "need" to eat meat and not to think about how animals are treated

...most people can live very happily without meat at all...some people argue that they need meat to be healthy,if you believe that cut down on the meat you need,buy from animal friendly meat suppliers...keep cutting down on how much meat you need and see just how little ,if any meat you need to eat to remain healthy...

[scanner]

If I were a chicken , I say , "cluck this I'm off "

[HORIZONS]

Judge not least ye be judged! :eek:

[Isthatso]

I believe things are changing, albeit slowly. People are becoming more aware of what they're eating. I was heartened to see on TV the other night a story about Jane Cameron. She was the owner of a large chain of stores - Kathmandu - and is now very wealthy. She has pledged $2 million to put towards advertising the horrific conditions of pigs in stalls that is complete torture for the animals. She's paying people who have worked, or are currently working, at these farms to come forward with info on the practices so she can inform the public. She gains nothing from this (other than peace of mind) and is using her own money - good on her! The pig farmers are desparate to keep these practices hidden and, contrary to what one person states on the video, if they are operating like this clearly they have no concern for the animals - it's all about profit.

Here's the link if anyone is interested - http://tvnz.co.nz/sunday/s2010-e41-dob-in-boss-video-3878897
It's wonderful to see people using their wealth for the greater good.

[truthseekerdan]

How can you not love these guys singing...:bounce:

http://freehitsringtones.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/funny-chicken1.jpg

[Solphilos]

you said "Just as the many who are aware of the atrocities committed in the name of oil will continue driving cars, people will also continue to buy meat products because, well, they have to."

the point IS that they don't "have to",it is conditioned in to us that we "need" to eat meat and not to think about how animals are treated

...most people can live very happily without meat at all...some people argue that they need meat to be healthy,if you believe that cut down on the meat you need,buy from animal friendly meat suppliers...keep cutting down on how much meat you need and see just how little ,if any meat you need to eat to remain healthy...

No, it's not 'conditioned' in us, it is most often a necessary part of the human diet. Try telling that to the sheep-herders of the Gobi desert, who rely primarily upon meat for sustenance, or the many other cultures of the world for that matter.

Yes, in most modern societies those with enough money that have access to 'health food' markets can eat completely meat-free diets and enjoy a healthy lifestyle. I myself when vegan for a few years until these resources where no longer available to me, and my health quickly declined once I was no longer able to enjoy my previous variety of foods.

If meat is cut from the diet, then there must be a viable substitute in place in order to remain at peak health. I have watched many vegans and vegetarians wither away due to their noble, yet naive intentions.

[heyokah]

The Meat Group is actually named “The Meat, Poultry, Fish, Dry Beans, Eggs, and Nuts Group” because all of those foods provide similar nutrients.
So the Meat Group includes eggs, dried beans (black beans, chickpeas, lentils, etc.), tofu, soy protein powder, and nuts and seeds,
including peanut butter, its relatives.
Eating dried beans and legumes regularly is a key to good health.
And of course lots of vegetables

BUT BE CAREFUL WITH THE SOY !!!!

It contains high quantities of various toxic chemicals, which cannot be fully destroyed even by the long cooking process.
These are: phytates, which block the body's uptake of minerals;
enzyme inhibitors, which hinder protein digestion;
and haemagluttin, which causes red blood cells to clump together and inhibits oxygen take-up and growth.
Most controversially of all, soy contains high levels of the phytoestrogens (also known as isoflavones) genistein and daidzein, which mimic and sometimes block the hormone oestrogen.

Traditionally fermented soy products make a delicious, natural seasoning that may supply important nutritional factors in the Asian diet.
But except in times of famine, Asians consume soy products only in small amounts, as condiments, and not as a replacement for animal foods - with one exception.
Celibate monks living in monasteries and leading a vegetarian lifestyle find soy foods quite helpful because they dampen libido.



CINDERELLA'S DARK SIDE

http://www.karinya.com/soydangers.htm

Again..... we are being fooled !!!!

[Teakai]

I was thinking earlier tonight that if there were/are reptillians and if they are using us as a food source - well, we can't really complain too much because as a society that's exactly what we do to those we consider to be lesser beings.

[Swami]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnBlst3T7bY

[Peace of Mind]

hi guys,

We all know people will always believe what they want; they are experts in creating excuses and the masters of procrastination. It’s not entirely their fault thou. Since birth they were led to believe they had to eat certain things to survive. I’ve been a vegan for as long as I can remember and I know from personal facts my body and mind is better off. My consciousness has risen, so much so that I can clearly see much of the lies that lie beneath. I would gladly die before I take another species life (who barely can defend itself) to sustain mines. I don’t see the righteousness in that. But, I do see how the FDA works. I see the excuses people make when they are afraid of change; I see how blind arrogance controls the day. Every nutrient found in meat can be found else where. Even the B12 protein (some famously talk about) can be found in sea plants and dirt. I don’t trust what the FDA says. If people want to keep using the FDA as a source of validity… they can drink a few cans of Redbull, B12= 80%....it’s also FDA approved. See where I’m going here...

Be careful of the soy too. When George Washington Carver discover the soybean it was used for military purposes, he used it to make dye, paper, axle, grease, plastic, bleach, shaving cream, shoe polish, wood, stain, fuel, linoleum, and metal polish. It really was never meant to be consume…but that is FDA approve also. Hmmm…wonder why.

There are people who rarely eat and live productive lives. I remember it being said that a human can not live with out food for more than 2 weeks, but some indigenous can fast for a month, while some animals can hibernate. The fda can’t have people limiting their food and med intake, it goes against their plans. The earthquake in Haiti had some trapped for weeks (without food) and they survived, hmmm.
My point is…the FDA has conditioned the mind since birth. The mind controls the body. Corrupt the mind, corrupt the body. Most people are followers, so they will follow no matter what. If you want to get closer to divinity you have to purify the body and mind of death and stress. The most high/righteous of angels or energies will not come close to it, they want to talk and interact with humans but they cannot/refuse to get close to the vibrations most people are made out of. TPTB knows this and will do what it takes to keep that link broken. I only write this because I and a few others (I know) have the experiences of truth. I gain nothing in convincing; I’m just wired to care for others because your governments will not. I want a world that respects and care. Too many soulless antics are in practice these days, and we wonder why things are the way they are…then have the nerve to point fingers.

Plum Island (a small island sitting in between Long Island in New York and Connecticut) is home to a highly secretive bio lab. In conspiracy, it’s been said that the West Nile virus came from there, along with Lyme disease (Lyme is the name of a town in Connecticut, hmmm). There have been strange looking animals washing up on the L.I. beaches too (Goggle Montauk monster). The reason I brought this up is because they are going to move this facility into the middle of America…right next to the facilities where most Americans get their food manufacture. Now why would they do such a thing? You can get more info on this from Jesse Ventura conspiracy theory also. I’ve been talking about that island for years and for Jessie to come out with a show on it…totally blew me away. ATM, I have great respect for him and his team. I only wish more people will pull their hearts out of their pockets.

Trust your body, know and believe that it will take care of itself when you start to feel ill. If the thoughts of meds and/or doctors pop into your mind around this time… then you are caught up in the web…but it does not necessarily mean you are trapped…that’s a choice.

Peace