'25 years of Trollogy' Video-series!

[ExomatrixTV]

January 8, 2015 at 9:51am (https://www.facebook.com/notes/john-kuhles/25-years-of-trollogy-video-series/10153032382339885)

"25 years of Trollogy" Confessions of an Die Hard Experiencer.

~as a die hard conspiracy researcher I had and have to deal with trolls (willful & skillful deniers) since 1990 upto now ... and I will make a special ExomatrixTV Video-series on "25 years of Trollogy" confessions of an experiencer.

How to deal with it (situation) & them, how to monitor your own often total unnecessary emotions. How successful having fun with trolls and make them mad as hell ;) "trolling the trolls" = reverse psychology ... How to discern between a fake trolls, wannabe trolls and a real trolls.

Some (smarter) trolls play dumb just to test you if you take the bait ... but most trolls ARE really dumb (what is worse?).

I friended with a leader of giant trolls network via skype and he helped me to better understand their purpose and their true mission. Nothing is as it seems.

Maybe is seems odd but I do respect smart intelligent trolls being unique & original and can make me/us laugh ... most trolls are unoriginal boring predictable. Real trolls do not want to communicate (= learning from each-other) main goal is to derail, distract & pollute the conversation with endless baseless accusations & insinuations wrapped in assumptions into infinity. Most trolls use their intelligence NOT to contribute but to do the opposite.



"MISSION IMPOSSIBLE" ?

Preventing baseless insinuations, unnecessary insults, racist remarks, cheap name-callings no intelligent content.

Extreme baseless accusations that begged to be corrected: if you DO correct them they laugh at you that you took the bait, in other words your dammed if you do your dammed if you don't.

Deliberately misquoting out of context & (extreme) misrepresentations serving NO ONE - Off topic dogmatic derailing real constructive conversations!

My video series will be like a handbook, instruction manual, guidelines how to deal with trolls and how to discern between genuine (cynical) critics & fake pseudo skeptics.


TRUE OR FALSE?:

Most trolls totally lack empathy but often "demand" empathy from others about their "point of view" & "conclusions" ... Which is hilarious hypocritical!


cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV' 2015

Excellent video-tip although I do not agree with everything in this video: yhXX7qy0LlI
although I do not agree with everything in this video.

[grannyfranny100]

Wow, loved the video. Would like to support you but I have always avoided facebook for the reasons discussed in the video.....

[ExomatrixTV]

PsychologyToday: "Internet Trolls Are Narcissists, Psychopaths, and Sadists":
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/your-online-secrets/201409/internet-trolls-are-narcissists-psychopaths-and-sadists

[ExomatrixTV]

~misrepresenting ANY controversial topic is not that difficult to do ... NO INTELLIGENCE necessary ... just have lot of baseless assumptions & insinuations mixed with a little-bit truth just to "convince" your own kind you were "correct"!

Google-search "strawman argument" troll tactics.

Cheers,
John Kuhles aka ExomatrixTV
8 January 2015

[TrumanCash]

I've found the best way to handle trolls is just to report any post that violates a forum's policies to the moderators. If the moderators do nothing then I simply leave the forum.

That is what makes the Avalon forum such a great forum to share ideas and experiences--the policies are actually enforced.

No forum should tolerate trolls, but unfortunately that doesn't happen to be the case.

TLC

[ExomatrixTV]

~the use of the word "truth" is often used to "challenge" some one in controversial debates ... but what is wrong by s(t)aying (in): "it may be better to say: it is a (my) perception ... or a concept to be considered ... a possibility ... a theory ... a consideration ... a conclusion based on own long time research & thorough investigation ... a deeper search for ignored data that still needs to be verified ...and I can go on and on ... that real "truth" depends on how much effort & time you/me/we really have to check things out ... and most if they are honest have no time and/or no will to do real research!
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cheers :)
John

[ExomatrixTV]

TRUE OR FALSE?:

Most trolls totally lack empathy but often "demand" empathy from others about their "point of view" & "conclusions" ... Which is hilarious hypocritical!


Peter Eastick [quote]: "They come across as arrogant right wing bullys to me." [unquote]~my response:

Peter Eastick ... "left" "middle" "right" doesn't matter, smart trolls often play a role to instigate & start (in)fights by exaggerations & misrepresentations even deliberately spread provable false "confessions" of the "opposite"

Or provable false accusations of the "other side" just to lure any moron to fall in the dialectic trap they created in the first place!

Nothing "is" as it seems with smart trolls!

You are looking at a careful crafted hall of mirrors and your "interpretation" is part of the anticipated mind-games (mind-fcks). You may find yourself surrounded in a minefield with quicksand at the edges where you thought you could escape from the madness.

The moment you use ANY generalization or labels on "the other" you are actually helping the trolls to make it worse for the "neutral" observers, trying to learn something new (which should be the bases of healthy & constructive discussions & exchange of ideas).

Main goal is: endless distractions of the original intent of the (often creative intelligent) poster.

Envy? Jealousy? Insecure types? Escapism? They can't handle the truth? or "Just only fun" ... You tell me what motives could be applied, because I know their could be many more reasons like: payed government shills or revenge (personal vendettas) or psychological warfare etc.

cheers,
John Kuhles

[ExomatrixTV]

http://personalliberty.com/new-nsa-docs-confirm-long-held-blogger-fears-there-are-government-trolls-among-us/

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[ExomatrixTV]

The Feds are on Facebook. And MySpace, LinkedIn and Twitter, too. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/35890739/ns/technology_and_science-security/t/your-new-facebook-friend-may-be-fbi/

[ExomatrixTV]

how-many-of-your-facebook-friends-are-undercover-feds-video http://www.americasfreedomfighters.com/2015/02/11/how-many-of-your-facebook-friends-are-undercover-feds-video/

[ExomatrixTV]

"outtroll the trolls" is my mission, and can prove it works most of the time, with basics like: stay in self-honesty, be transparent, take yourself not to seriously, allow them to score as well if they make good points, be aware not all trolls are necessarily bad, some trolls love to psychologically test you.

Have compassion for the trolls they need as much love as anyone else. Learn to love them as a learning tool, give them a hug if they get mad, give them credits if they are really funny & original etc. etc.

... but most of all have fun with them thats what most of them dislike the most :)

[ExomatrixTV]

Message to pseudo skeptics & wannabe trolls:

I will give credits & proper respect if you are original & found inaccuracies without using exaggerations.

But can you use your intelligence also to see what is important? No? ... Then you are not that intelligent as you are seeing (metaphorical speaking) specks of dirt you found on a Rembrandt painting and want to clean it up with a steel-brush destroying the whole painting. It is called having a "selective nitpicking syndrome" the only cure is having a big laugh at yourself ;)

cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'

[ExomatrixTV]

Trolls & Pseudo Skeptics lost me, the moment they generalize & exaggerate same goes for anyone else doing that!
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~cheap name callings (on either side) never ever impressed me!
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Leads nowhere only use is to scare away neutral people asking genuine questions. Main mission is to pollute the discussion with childish spoiled brat behavior making it total uninteresting for real genuine researchers.

[ExomatrixTV]

http://personalliberty.com/internet-trolls-have-a-mental-disorder/

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=29277&cid=1&stc=1 (http://personalliberty.com/internet-trolls-have-a-mental-disorder/)

http://personalliberty.com/internet-trolls-have-a-mental-disorder/

[ExomatrixTV]

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[ExomatrixTV]

~if you film The Sun yourself and put it on youtube, you still have shills & trolls denying that The Sun exist because "it was on youtube" lol ... that is how illogical they get! ... not to mention countless independent sources ... including official declassified government & mainstream sources they willingly ignore & playing dumb about many controversial subjects all viscously being denied!

[ExomatrixTV]

There are two things to keep in mind about trolls:

1) They don't want to talk about the topic at hand. They want to talk about you, or themselves.
2) It's never too late to call out a troll. Even after you are five or more responses into the thread when you finally realized that you've been suckered, you may be incline to stick with it out of some misplaced pride or anger. Don't. You can't win debating a troll. All you can do is lower yourself to their level.

Tools for trolls

#1) Name-calling and ridicule: That doesn't mean just calling people names. The objective is to goad other people in the debate to start name-calling. That means use baseless caricatures and stereotypes, generally directed at the author, to get an emotional response. Appeal to people's prejudices and fears.
#2) Play Dumb: You are immune to facts, and all news sources are suspect. Even common sense logic is to be questioned.
#3) Demand complete and fool-proof solutions to the problems: How can you bother other people with these problems unless you also have the solutions? And not just any solutions, but solutions that have been scientifically tested and work. What? You aren't an expert in the field? Then why should we care what you say? This method is most effective when the proof you demand is impossible.
#4) Build and Destroy a Strawman: Create the elements of your opponents arguments, as you define them, and then tear them down. [This is one of my favorites]
#5) When in doubt, declare victory!: You have no idea what the debate is actually about, and all your other debating methods have failed. So why no celebrate? After all, it's all about you.
#6) It's hopeless, so why try?: Nothing can ever change. We are all doomed. The powers-that-be will always win. [This appears to be a recent favorite on the internet, and obviously the most useful for maintaining the status quo]
#7) It's old news: Never mind that the newspapers seem to care for some reason, anyone who's been paying attention had to know that this has been going on forever. [This is related to #6 and #4]
#8) Suggest extreme solutions: The government did something wrong? Then let's get rid of the government! Kids are having trouble in schools? Then public schools must go!
#9) Wax indignant: (aka "How dare you!") Obviously if someone said something you didn't like then you should take it personally because it was meant to offend you.
#10) Shout down others: This is accomplished by posting a bunch of messages before your opponent has a chance to respond. You can do this because you have more time on your hands than most people.
#11) Army of sock puppets: This method depends on your resources. It's extremely effective. If you are a government agency or a corporation, then this method may have the most bang for the buck.
#12) Hit and Run: You won't stop debate with this method, but you sure can disrupt it. This method is most effective when used with #1.
#13) Question motives: This is an oldie but a goodie. Obviously if someone wants to call attention to something then they have something to hide, and it is your duty to expose it. What sort of partisan agenda is he/she pushing anyway?
#14) Invoke Authority: You are an expert on the subject, and these accusations are nothing more than wild rumors and conspiracy theories.
#15) Demand that they solve the crime: Why should we get excited over this unless we know every single detail? After all, this is an extremely complex situation and difficult to understand.
#16) Come half-clean: By admitting to unimportant facts then you can appear to be completely honest. [This is a last-resort method]
#17) Make **** up: Another oldie-but-goodie. If you demand your opponent prove things wrong then he/she isn't able to focus on the topic at hand. It doesn't matter if your "facts" are irrelevant to the topic. Plus, if they are unable or unwilling to spend the time disproving your BS, you can say that you have "proven" their arguments to be false and go declare victory.
#18) Make even the slightest mistake something important: If you opponent makes a typo or isn't clear about something, then obviously they have no credibility. If the newspaper they are sourcing once made a mistake, or is from another country, then they can't be trusted.
There probably is more methods that I am forgetting, but these are the primary ones. If you think of others, please put them in the comments so that I may add them to the list.
Several people have pointed out that many of these methods are a) commonly used tools to "blow up a troll", b) that can be used for non-troll activities, and c) sometimes get used by good people on an off-day.
This is all true.

I'm not trying to say that if someone uses any of these methods that they are automatically an evil troll. I'm saying that evil trolls almost always use these methods.
One does not automatically mean the other.

The purpose of my listing these methods is so that if you find yourself in a debate with someone who is quickly pissing you off that you should take a step back and think if you recognize his/her debating methods that I listed above as troll-like. If the answer is "yes", then you are safe to call them out as a troll and walk away.
This is a much better outcome then uselessly getting down in the mud with the troll where no good can come from it.

There are two other suggestions in the comments:
#19) Concern Troll: This is more of a political tactic than a debating one, although it can be used for both.
#20) Blog Nanny Patrol: I'm going to admit that I'm not exactly sure what this is.

[ExomatrixTV]

http://www.wnd.com/2014/02/govt-handbook-for-internet-trolls-uncovered/

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don't know 'bout trolling but the guy in the video has a dead sexy voice

[ExomatrixTV]

Ask ANY suspect troll a special but very simple question ... if the suspect troll answers "YES" (you win) .... if the suspect troll answers "NO" (you win too!) :D

It is not about "competition" it is more about winning precious TIME you spend with some one or not. Here is the question for the suspect troll:

"Are you willing to learn something new ... yes or no?"

... if the suspect troll says YES, you ask how much time do you have and are you willing to listen to me for let say 10 minutes on skype then I gonna test you if you really have listened what I said/claimed.

The suspect troll must make an HONEST summary (honest representation) what you or I have said AFTER listening for 10 minutes.

If the suspect troll is NOT able to do that ... he or she is totally exposed being incompetent!

If the suspect troll demands you to do the same for him/her NO PROBLEM!

I do not have to agree with some one to make an honest summery (honest representation) of the content that some one claims. By doing that the other feels you took the effort to at least hear him or her out in an honest way.

IF THE SUSPECT TROLL SAY "NO" to the simple question: "Are you willing to learn something new ... yes or no?" ... then what is the FCKN POINT of communication?

99% of the trolls will not take up this challenge!

It is NOT about you being responsible for their actions & abuse ... it is you exposing them for what they are (and decide to MOVE ON with dignity) you can win the debate faster that way... Real sophisticated trolls play a role to temporary "fit in" and slowly derail everything you hold dear! They have multiple tactics ... some can play nice for a long time like wolf in sheep-clothing.

cheers,
John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV'

May 7th, 2017

[ExomatrixTV]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/icons/icon4.png Cyberstalking, How to Identify and Defeat an Internet Troll

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98371-Cyberstalking-How-to-Identify-and-Defeat-an-Internet-Troll
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[shadowstalker]

Ask ANY suspect troll a special but very simple question ... if the suspect troll answers "YES" (you win) .... if the suspect troll answers "NO" (you win too!) :D

It is not about "competition" it is more about winning precious TIME you spend with some one or not. Here is the question for the suspect troll:

"Are you willing to learn something new ... yes or no?"

... if the suspect troll says YES, you ask how much time do you have and are you willing to listen to me for let say 10 minutes on skype then I gonna test you if you really have listened what I said/claimed.

The suspect troll must make an HONEST summary (honest representation) what you or I have said AFTER listening for 10 minutes.

If the suspect troll is NOT able to do that ... he or she is totally exposed being incompetent!

If the suspect troll demands you to do the same for him/her NO PROBLEM!

I do not have to agree with some one to make an honest summery (honest representation) of the content that some one claims. By doing that the other feels you took the effort to at least hear him or her out in an honest way.

IF THE SUSPECT TROLL SAY "NO" to the simple question: "Are you willing to learn something new ... yes or no?" ... then what is the FCKN POINT of communication?

99% of the trolls will not take up this challenge!

It is NOT about you being responsible for their actions & abuse ... it is you exposing them for what they are (and decide to MOVE ON with dignity) you can win the debate faster that way... Real sophisticated trolls play a role to temporary "fit in" and slowly derail everything you hold dear! They have multiple tactics ... some can play nice for a long time like wolf in sheep-clothings.

cheers,

John Kuhles aka 'ExomatrixTV' 7 May 2017

http://whynotnews.eu (http://whynotnews.eu)

I have never really had trolls I have been blessed in that area, but i do feel bad for other folks, who feel they have to go through it.