Lars Andersen: A New Level of Archery

[Matt P]

Fascinating video of a lost ancient art.
Who needs a gun, right? ;)

Matt

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[Bill Ryan]

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WOW. Bumping this already. :)

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[Chip]

That was incredible

[Cidersomerset]

Excellent demonstration by Lars...........



I saw a master Longbow man give a demonstration at Warwick castle
years ago and it was very impressive.....

The Long Bowman were the artillery and had the power
with the right arrow heads to penetrate plate armour..
They did use quivers and placed arrows in the ground as
they usually fought in blocks on the battlefield like Crecy
and Agincourt and were in great demand in their day....


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Some history and entertainment from Warwick castle...

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Lars method is more of the light bowman with multiple
operational techniches to fit many roles on the battle
field andother functions , hunting Assassinations etc

very impressive the bow has made a comeback with
the TV series 'The Arrow' who does use some of
the trick shots but he usually has an quiver ,but
does hold arrows in his hand and fires rapid as
well. The bow he uses is modern and I'l have
to check next time I watch.

[TargeT]

Fascinating video of a lost ancient art.
Who needs a gun, right? ;)

Matt

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we have "new arts" now...

shotgun:
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Tactical Beard version:
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humans are amazing.

[Cidersomerset]

Ah this gives me a break from David Ickes headline page...LOL


MIDIEVAL WEAPONS AND COMBAT - The Longbow (MIDDLE AGES BATTLE HISTORY DOCUMENTARY)

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[Carmody]

I spent a bit of time doing a bit of blind and general point shooting. using laser sighting on unloaded metal bodied pellet pistols. At one time (in my youth) I did own a BRNO CZ75. When it was current..it was considered to be the best point shooting auto handgun of all time.

And then a bit of the same, with pellet rifles, which, in long range shooting, is probably the hardest thing to master.

I said I don't like em..not that I don't know how to use them.

I do not own, at this time, any guns. And probably won't for the rest of my time here. I was raised with them being around, is all.

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[TargeT]

I spent a bit of time doing a bit of blind and general point shooting. using laser sighting on unloaded metal bodied pellet pistols. At one time (in my youth) I did own a BRNO CZ75. When it was current..it was considered to be the best point shooting auto handgun of all time.

handgun mixed with jujitsu:
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martial arts mixed with a handgun is a very interesting synergy... I'd like to see some non-film examples of this (if they exist, if they don't they should!)

reminds me of the concepts put forth in this movie (an excellent scifi in it's own right):
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I'm not so fond of the violent tends of these movies but it does reach out to a base, reptilian portion of the brain & is entertaining & I feel that some form of self defense is a mandatory skill set for all individuals.

[Carmody]

I'm waiting for the john wick video release, so I'm averting my eyes on that one.

Martial arts, as most know, or hopefully know, is about discipline and internal growth, and has, in it's final analysis of the grown person, little to nothing to do with the physical skills (as used in directed violence) gained. The violent man in the arts is the nothing man, the dead man, the unliving man, one who has learned nothing.

[Carmody]

I also played with bows, compound bows, and so on. Never got much good with them, needed more time...but can draw and release without hurting myself, ie, have the basics of technique, and improve from there.

I can certainly appreciate the Archery skill videos.

[Aurvandil]

As myself, my husband an my brother-in-law are all archers and very interested in historic archery, only using traditional longbows or flat bows, we will start looking into Lars Andersens historic shooting as soon as the weather allows to. He has done very interesting research and his results seem quite logical.

[Carmody]

Well, without looking at any of the videos or whatnot my immediate thoughts on the realities.

A compound bow, by design, decreases draw hold, or whatever one calls it, but it decreases release accuracy, due to the lack of a very specific and directly driven (no intervening linked/leveraged) connectivity.

The simplicity of a long bow increases the evenness of forces on the string, in bow motion due to stress and string motion due to stress. Simplifying that connectivity is critical to maintain a continual and even stress load, which will affect the release, and the control throughout. A crossbow should have similar accuracy to a longbow, under complex and varied conditions, again, due to simplicity of design.

However, for the complex handheld visceral living art of using a bow, in a complex motional dance, such as a live battle..which is primarily, historically, potentially at close quarters...the long bow or the short bow, should be more effective than any compound bow could hope to be.

A compound may be good for specific environments of targeting, but that does not make it a multi-use all rounder, no not at all. A common misconception, due to our general lack of education in these areas. When I apply my understanding of mechanics to the situation, this is the kind of answer I come to, as an initial thought.

[Deega]

Fascinating video of a lost ancient art.
Who needs a gun, right? ;)

Matt

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Woua!, amazing, this guy don't need a gun, really incredible!, thanks Mpennery to shared this!, the best to you!

[Sunny-side-up]

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So many;
fast, powerful and effective ways to kill!

Yet so few:
fast, powerful and effective ways to heal!

Not what I want in my bloodline :( but it's there!

I had a very good eye for geometric awareness, could even hit targets after one quick look around a corner, then just angling the gun around said corner could hit the target/s from memory, we have it built in us for sure!

I have never though, had the use of semi or alto weapons, just small 2.2 and air weapons and Bows, the thing is though I could hit, and hit fast.

I totally appreciate the skill shown in those vids, wow for sure!

That first vid is a WOW+10

Had many, many full on air-weapon fights with friends and other gangs, fights including catapults/slingshots/blowpipes lol
I was quite mad back then, and didn't care about personal injury, I was always the victor.
We where very lucky as-well, some poor kids/people have died from air-riffle hits and the like!

Reptiles have a lot to answer for ha!

[Rex]

As incredible as Lars is, check out Bob Munden with a pistol. I can't wrap my head around how fast he does this. Sorry there is a lot of conversation on this but worth seeing the sharp shooting he does:

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I believe he's still alive as there's another video out there that did a slow-mo of him much older. Apologies if this is considered off topic.

[Shezbeth]

Fascinating video of a lost ancient art.
Who needs a gun, right? ;)

Matt

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Word. F-ing word. THAT'S some crazy ninjas hit with a bow!

[Robin]

I'm an archer myself and can attest to the difficulty in being a good shooter. Archery is an ancient tradition that also taught one how to retain self-control and patience, and it is a humble art with interesting history. Really, it is a form of yoga. Here's a photo of me shooting:

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Many people naively (including myself!) think that after watching Legolas or Robin Hood effortlessly disarm a rabble of villains, that one could pick up a bow and shoot just as easily. Such is obviously not the case, and just like with any hobby or profession, it takes a lot of practice to get very good.

As for myself, I'm not very good at all! But I find archery to be a wonderful way to find internal balance.

If you think that this is beholding, check out this video of Rufus Hussey, an elderly slingshot marksman:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ieWrWLjii0

[DeDukshyn]

Fascinating video of a lost ancient art.
Who needs a gun, right? ;)

Matt

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we have "new arts" now...

shotgun:
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"150,000 rounds practicing a new routine" -- common theme to both skills: Huge, Dedication, to Practice!!! Learning to rely on Instinct, for a controlled task ... NOT easy to do! I am so impressed by both these men's skills. (although slightly more impressed with the archer, imho)

[DarMar]

Danish “Archer” Demonstrates Gullibility of Audience



There’s this video, which at least a dozen people have forwarded to me, is circulating the Internet at the moment purporting to “demolish every Hollywood myth” about archery and “prove that Hollywood archery is not historical.” Since apparently hundreds of sites have uncritically repeated its many preposterous and unsupportable claims, with the result that many people have asked me about it, I thought I should offer a detailed analysis.

you can continue reading on source:
http://geekdad.com/2015/01/danish-archer/

[Carmody]

Danish “Archer” Demonstrates Gullibility of Audience



There’s this video, which at least a dozen people have forwarded to me, is circulating the Internet at the moment purporting to “demolish every Hollywood myth” about archery and “prove that Hollywood archery is not historical.” Since apparently hundreds of sites have uncritically repeated its many preposterous and unsupportable claims, with the result that many people have asked me about it, I thought I should offer a detailed analysis.

you can continue reading on source:
http://geekdad.com/2015/01/danish-archer/

Understandable. My first thoughts when I saw the video. Ok, he split the arrow. Now do that again, with no edits. The odds are low. So the video is culled, from attempts, which is obvious (to me).

My contribution was to speak on the subject of close quarters battle scenarios of older times...where the short bow excels in it's appointed task, and the heavy compound bow shows that it's complexity, etc... is a dire weakness.

Horses for courses, as they say.

[Wind]

I have to admit, I have always admired people with good marksmanship and archery skills. Peaceful warriors, those are great! Like Robin Hood and such.

In the beginning of this clip Alan Watts talks about his love of archery.

"I happen to be a lover of archery but I don't like archery for killing things.

I like it as a sport but what I like most of all, is to set an arrow free, like it were a bird and now, when you get far up in the sky. You watch it and it suddenly turns and drops.

What is it that fascinates us about that? Because it's not useful, it doesn't really achieve anything that we would call purpose at work. It simply is what we call play."

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[Robin]

Here is a good PDF read:

http://www.influxpress.com.php53-4.dfw1-2.websitetestlink.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/zenarchery2.jpg




"It is almost impossible to understand Zen by studying it as you would other intellectual pursuits. The best way to understand Zen is, simply, to Zen. This is what author Eugen Herrigel allows us to do by sharing his own fascinating journey toward a comprehension of this illuminating philosophy.

In Japan, an art such as archery is not practiced solely for utilitarian purposes such as learning to hit targets. Archery is also meant to train the mind and bring it into contact with the ultimate reality. If one really wishes to be master of an art, technical knowledge of it is not enough. One has to trancend technique so that the art becomes an "artless art" growing out of the Unconsciousness. In this way, as the author simply, clearly demonstrates, archery becomes a path to greater understanding and enlightenment."

Zen in the Art of Archery (http://rum1.aarch.dk/uploads/media/Eugen_Herrigel-Zen_in_the_Art_of_Archery_01.pdf)

[aviators]

Archery in its finest and original technique.
Another part of history that's almost been forgotten. :cool:


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Mod edit: I have merged this thread with the existing thread.

Billy.

[Constance]

The gift, the talent, the skill! Watch as a blindfolded Lars Anderson shoots an arrow from behind his back through a keyhole and a piece of hanging string whilst jumping.


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World's Most Difficult Trick Shot!

[meeradas]

This guy is awesome...
in another vid, he's catching an arrow shot at him and immediately fires it back

[pueblo]

The machine gun of the medieval archery world.

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[Johnnycomelately]

This vid of the older southern gentleman (USA, southeast), is what first came to mind as a parallel to Lars’ skill with his bow (seen by me first in 2023 iirc, on another forum). Same kind of aiming by body, like stepping back from an intellect approach, to one that affirms the smarts of the body. “Lizard-brain”, whatever.

Wildland slingshot battle with my buddy, ~11 y.o., I took a stone to the teeth. Just as I poked my head around the side of my tree-defence position. Lucky I was in laughing-mocking mode, big wide and open grin, and only lost ~1 mm off the lower teeth. The paste that the dentist had me put on that, for the next month plus, that was where the pain came in.

Have made bows and made and shot arrows, back as a kid, tho none at friends or foe. Later I bought proper bows and arrows, and salvaged a wack of broken arrows from my HS archery club.


I'm an archer myself and can attest to the difficulty in being a good shooter. Archery is an ancient tradition that also taught one how to retain self-control and patience, and it is a humble art with interesting history. Really, it is a form of yoga. Here's a photo of me shooting:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=28747&d=1695480575&thumb=1

If you think that this is beholding, check out this video of Rufus Hussey, an elderly slingshot marksman:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ieWrWLjii0


Thanks, Bill, for your post referencing this thread.




Many thanks[/U], and this absolutely belongs on this thread. The video has to be seen to be believed, and it's all totally real.

For those who'd like to know more, we do have this thread from quite a few years ago: :muscle:


Lars Andersen: A New Level of Archery (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79352-Lars-Andersen-A-New-Level-of-Archery&highlight=Lars+Andersen)