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MorningSong
27th January 2015, 18:40
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How Boehner and Netanyahu are joining forces to undermine President Obama - and what it could cost Israel:

I just saw this in a tweet and followed the web to an article....

... Times are a'changing... kinda unravelling.... bigtime! Divorce time?



Analysis & Opinion | The Great Debate
Israel’s dangerous new game playing out in Washington’s corridors of power
By Bill Schneider
January 27, 2015


House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu are playing a dangerous game. What they are doing runs the risk of turning Israel into a deeply divisive partisan issue.

Boehner and Netanyahu are joining forces to undermine President Barack Obama. By inviting Netanyahu to address Congress without first consulting the White House, Boehner is retaliating for the president’s recent executive actions on immigration and other matters. By accepting the invitation, Netanyahu is putting himself in the anti-Obama camp. Republicans are thrilled, and Democrats are offended, by the show of disrespect for the president.

Nearly every issue in American politics has become partisan. Democrats and Republicans can’t agree on taxes, education, whether climate change is caused by human activity or even how the economy is doing.

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Netanyahu is playing his own political card here. Israel is having a national election two weeks after Netanyahu addresses Congress in March. Israeli political commentator Nahum Barnea wrote that Republicans “are helping Netanyahu defeat his rivals here, and he is helping them humiliate their rivals there.” Barnea warned, “That is dangerous. That is toxic.”

On Israeli radio, Shelly Yachimovich, an opposition member of the Israeli parliament, called it “a brutal and unacceptable bypass of the president of the United States,” adding, “Such a thing simply damages us.”

Congressional Democrats will certainly be in the audience applauding Netanyahu’s address. They do not want to retaliate by showing disrespect for Israel. But they deeply resent what Boehner and Netanyahu are doing. That resentment is likely to break into the open if, under pressure from Israel, nuclear negotiations with Iran break down and the U.S. gets pulled into a new military engagement in the Middle East.

Rank-and-file Democrats are also likely to be offended by the insult to their president. The risk is that support for Israel among Democrats will erode and the bipartisan pro-Israel consensus in the United States will collapse.

“Netanyahu is using the Republican Congress for a photo-op for his election campaign,” former U.S. Ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk told the New York Times, “and the Republicans are using [Netanyahu] for their campaign against Obama.”

Both Boehner and Netanyahu are meddling in another country’s politics. That is never a wise thing to do.

http://blogs.reuters.com/great-debate/2015/01/27/israels-dangerous-new-game-playing-out-in-washingtons-corridors-of-power/



And today I heard someone say on the radio that Israel is the second most powerful country in the world...second only to the USA. :behindsofa:

A Voice from the Mountains
27th January 2015, 19:55
On one hand I'm glad the president hasn't become so much of a dictator that he decides who can speak before the Congress and who can't. The Congress is not his child, it's its own branch of the US government with checks and balances over the president himself.

On the other hand, I have nothing good to say about Netanyahu. The man is a war criminal and I only hope he gets convicted as such, let alone removed from power.

lucidity
27th January 2015, 22:52
The relationship between America and Israel is rather like this:
(from the film Thunderdome)

http://postimg.org/image/gtx4rd38x/

http://postimg.org/image/gtx4rd38x/

The integrity of the USA has been gradually compromised over a number of years.
Now, a foreign prime minister out ranks the president and can push his agenda
in front of the president's.

To complain about, or in any way object to, this would be anti-Semitic so
(bizarrely) everyone's hands are tied (You couldn't make this **** up)

The situation is very clear cut.
Obama believes that an American war with Iran is not in America's interests.
Netanyahu, on the other hand, believes that a war between the USA and Iran is in Israel’s interests.
Inevitably, there's going to be a war with Iran.

be happy

lucidity :-)

Mark
28th January 2015, 00:46
Some call it treason. Say that never before has a congressman called up a head of state to speak to congress without the President's support. And to counter said President's foreign policy objectives overtly. Some say that foreign policy is the specific domain of the president and has been for quite some decades if not centuries.

Of course, this is a slippery slope. To many, Obama is the treasonous one. And so the sides continue to ratchet up the stakes.

Till something goes BOOM.

Carmody
28th January 2015, 03:49
IIRC, the off soil foreign issues are 100% THE domain of the president, the one place they are to be unchecked, and are, as the cumulative USA representation front for the United states, with regard to said foreign affairs and integrations. This is a major part of the core of the idea and law that surrounds the very idea of the POTUS.

The big problem, was the interference in domestic affairs by the offices of the federal government that the president is responsible for. The conflating of the running of the country by unchecked POTUS interference.

Netanyahu, has no place in the congress, without tacit and actual approval by the president beforehand, this... by the very idea of how the US government is laid down in law, and in official acts and responsibilities.

This is the small bit I 'think' I know about presidential offices vs congress and senate.

(this, as a gist, an understanding from about 20 books under my belt [read] about all these issues that have happened over the years)

A Voice from the Mountains
28th January 2015, 06:57
IIRC, the off soil foreign issues are 100% THE domain of the president

That may be the impression one gets from recent politics but I know that at least the power to declare war or make treaties is given to Congress in the Constitution. Of course Bush and Obama have both totally disregarded this. We've also had governors in Virginia that took the initiative to go to Israel on their own (specifically I mean McDonnell here) to encourage trade between Israel and Virginia, just on the state level. I don't know how constitutional that is on the federal level, but it just goes to show how things are actually being run.

Carmody
30th January 2015, 13:53
This is why it is never a declared or attempted to be declared war, it is always akin to a 'police action'.

In that way, the federal offices that the president is responsible for... can be snuck around the letter of the law and the requisite 'declaration of war', and those offices made to be involved in the 'police action'. All under the presidency. The presidency, regarding foreign affairs, has no required or official disclosure mandate. it can do as it pleases behind a wall of enabled secrecy and control by one person, as part of the presidential duties.

Thus, those offices can be utilized, exercised, built up, funded, grown, new technologies, and so on.

when the police action is over, then those offices, of new capacity and size, can be turned on the citizenry who funded it. the citizenry who ignored it when it was not so obviously in their back yard.

Except for all the dead and dying and suiciding returning soldiers/veterans, who are, in some cases (from what I've heard/read), disallowed to have firearms. Ie, they are capable and they know what has gone on, due to direct involvement in the whole scenario.

After the Korean police action, that is the pattern it shifted into.



The trick is to remember that the angle of money was brought in as an enabler, by the Mesopotamians, and then it slowly evolved into what it is today.

What we have today, is a salve a pain reliever for the minds of the serfs, so they feel, in some minor way, that they have lives that are their own and independent.

Like giving a mentally disabled child an allowance so they can go buy things. More evolved, but nonetheless, that is exactly what it is.

Wall street, the banks and so on, is the complex mechanism that functions as the interface for that machine with the serf class. The 'allowance and life feel zone' control systems.

Seriously, it is exactly that, nothing more.

All they have to do, is police the technology (in all ways), and run a few thousand interface points.

They build them, these interface points... so they are self repairing, self monitoring. It takes some understanding of human psychology in order to get it done, but it is not too bad, not all that difficult.

In these sort of ways... it is manageable, stable, simple, and clean.

It is simple due to +99.999% of humans are controlled by the hindbrain mechanism and their thoughts, in all ways, follow those origins and are based on instinctual patterning. If they try to avoid having their minds run by the hindbrain systems, then a small amount of agitation is applied, and the hindbrain mechanism steps in, and controls them, it polices them back into the desired thought modes.

When they appear to become more intelligent, as intelligence increase is a natural energetic function of this universal norm, then poison the environment they exist in, in order to remove the tendency to higher brain function and higher clarity.

The best long term plan is a simple plan based on a clear analysis of the baser simplicity of the reality in front of one. In this way, a plan can always return to zero, and be re-calibrated to address what looks like complex issues, but at the base level, it is not.