A midnight epiphany ...

[Zook]

My father and his father before him - both elsewhere in the aether - are perhaps the two men that I respect most in this third density. My father and I are so much alike, it's eerie. But perhaps it's because of that likeness we never got along with each other (while he was in this density). I realize now that I should have respected our age difference (He was 29 when I was born; his father was 60 when he was born ... my grandfather, who physically held me, was born in 1874!). But ego is a strong thing to overcome inside the passages of youth. Here, it must be said that my father's logic and wisdom came from a standpoint of experience while mine came purely from ego and impetuosity. Anyways, while I respected and respect my Dad, I revere my grandfather (who I only came to know through the stories of his deeds and his observances of Satyam, Nyayam and Dharmam). An unlearned man, Thatheeya (telugu for grandfather) could only sign his name with an X. He was a hardworking salt merchant who grew his estate by buying salt at the wharf and carrying it back (literally on his shoulders) two miles to the inner town where he would spend the rest of the day reselling it. And he would go back to the wharf the next day and repeat the process (salt sold fast in those days; after all, there were no refrigerators to preserve foodstuffs). My mother tells me he used to carry 100lbs on each shoulder, but I think that may be a bit of an exaggeration, tho' you never can tell ... he was 6'6". Anyways I could talk about Thatheeya all day but that is not the point of this post.

It occurred to me last night that if Thatheeya had initiated Vikes 'My Last Post' thread ... would I have reacted any differently? I came to the sobering conclusion that yes, I would have indeed reacted with more respect, even with reverence. So was it fair that I jumped on Vikes like that? No. I accept now that my reaction was the reaction of a preEpiphanous proselytizer hurling lexical 'bolts from the mount. My hubris, if you will. Nyayam (Fairness) demands that I apologize to Vikes ... and so, Vikes ... I do sincerely. Hubris to humility, an oft-travelled road, wot? It`s really a pity, tho'. The points that I made were good, sincere, valid ones; but the arrogance that I carried them with did nothing to help communicate them.

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ps: Tint, I read your last post in that thread and I see your points. Of course, I couldn't well post again in that thread after already committing myself to a final say there. So I created this new thread.

[bluestflame]

dips hat to you Zookumar

[Niobe]

I almost didn't read this post because the title doesn't really give a clue as to where you were going and after reading your responses to Viking, I thought, I don't really need to read anymore from him. But something led me to click on it anyway, and I'm glad I did. Reading this was a good reminder for me about people, in general. Mostly, that I should keep an open mind and not be so hasty to form opinions. A positive way to start the day- so thanks for that!

[John Parslow]

Good afternoon Uncle Zook

I have just read your repentant post with interest and try as I might can not find an explanation of the following words: Satyam; Nyayam; Dharmam and Thatheeya, are they vocabulary in a foreign language or terms of the same? Methinks you have a world lexicon at your disposal were there such a thing!

I am very impressed with your contrite message to ‘Vikes’, it takes a big man to stand up in public and admit to any failing of respect for one’s fellows and to hurling lexical 'bolts from the mount! Hubris to humility – sounds a good line for a poem.

Best regards to you my friend. JP :cool:

[Ahkenaten]

Some Indian language

[Carmody]

Too bad it is the ego that makes the 'life dancin' (like a sitcom episode) gut bustingly funny. Ah, what a life!

[shadowstalker]

I understood the title, I like the story to:nod:

[Teakai]

Don't be beating yourself up over nothing, Zook.
Personally, I didn't see the post you wrote to Viking as anything but an honest, sensible , polite communication in regard to your own perspective - which, for the most part I happened to agree with.


If you were particulalry angry at the time of writing you hid it well. Perhaps it is your feelings you are feeling bad about?

[Rocky_Shorz]

there is an incredible energy going on around us right now...

Very confusing with all the dangerous plays in motion that are draining many of us...

I'll admit I've had a few flaming posts on the screen since the 7th day began, but before posting realized what I was doing and let it go...

the Web Bot predicted the emotional distress we would be experiencing right now...

Everyone do your best to try and temper words and emotions...

keep a happy place handy so a deep breath with closed eyes will bring you there to release the negative energy...

[Project_Buggy_Beach]

Related to your post on a personal level, I always had great respect for my father but maybe never stated it directly and obviously once they pass on it’s a little late. Always enjoy your posts.

[Zook]

Hi John,


Good afternoon Uncle Zook
I have just read your repentant post with interest and try as I might can not find an explanation of the following words: Satyam; Nyayam; Dharmam and Thatheeya, are they vocabulary in a foreign language or terms of the same? Methinks you have a world lexicon at your disposal were there such a thing!


Ha hahah haa... I wish! The words are from my own birth tongue, Telugu, of which I only have a basic grasp. And English, well ... anyone reading your poetry will quickly arrive that your lexicon is more impressive.

Satyam ~ Truth
Nyayam ~ Fairness
Dharmam ~ Justice
Thaatheeya ~ Grandfather



I am very impressed with your contrite message to ‘Vikes’, it takes a big man to stand up in public and admit to any failing of respect for one’s fellows and to hurling lexical 'bolts from the mount! Hubris to humility – sounds a good line for a poem.
Best regards to you my friend. JP :cool:

Thank you. You do the crime, you serve the time ... well, I did the crime. Hopefully by the end of the week, I`ll have served the time. Not just external judgments, but in the way I view myself. I feel like a hypocrite preaching tolerance, and then practicing just the opposite. Almost like preacher Swaggart moralizing (you remember, Jimmy?) ... and then demoralizing women in a bam-and-scram motel.
:jester:

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ps: To the others who've offered kind words and conciliatory tones... much thanks!

[truthseekerdan]

The title of your thread Zook, reminded me of this great song. Otherwise no comment...:wink:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9BTa5QzR84

[John Parslow]

Good Morning Uncle Zook or should I say; shubha dhinaṅ?


The words are from my own birth tongue, Telugu, of which I only have a basic grasp.

Thank you for you explanation of Satyam ~ Truth; Nyayam ~ Fairness; Dharmam ~ Justice and Thaatheeya ~ Grandfather.

I delved into your mother tongue this morning and discovered it to be spoken by approximately 75 million users worldwide and quite a few in Canada and the U.S.A. All becomes crystal clear, so I have to say: dhanyavaadhamulu.

Best regards to you. JP

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P.S. oka bhaasha saripoadhu! - One language is never enough!

[heyokah]

SATYAM, NYAYAM, DHARMAM




Subramanian.R:

When the mind is killed, you are the Self.* Satyam-Nyayam-Dharmam,
Satyam-Sivam-Sundaram, Prajna Parimita, Existence-Knowledge-Bliss,
Maha Sunya, ALL these are names.* Who cares?* If one becomes
the Sugar candy, what does it matter to you, if one calls it sweet, another
sour and the third bitter?* If you are the Rose, what does it matter to
you, if one calls it pink, another green and the third black?

Arunachala Siva.*


Can't help it :jester:

[John Parslow]

Hello Heyokah

As in William Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet:

“What’s in a name? That which we call a rose,
By any other name would smell as sweet".

Love and peace to you friend. JP

[heyokah]

Hello Heyokah

As in William Shakespeare’s Romeo and Juliet:

“What’s in a name? That which we call a rose,
By any other name would smell as sweet".

Love and peace to you friend. JP

:o Yes, that verse crossed my mind as well !
Thanks John

[Zook]

Good Morning Uncle Zook or should I say; shubha dhinaṅ?

Shubha dhinan, meekoonoo! (for you, too)!



Thank you for you explanation of Satyam ~ Truth; Nyayam ~ Fairness; Dharmam ~ Justice and Thaatheeya ~ Grandfather.
I delved into your mother tongue this morning and discovered it to be spoken by approximately 75 million users worldwide and quite a few in Canada and the U.S.A. All becomes crystal clear, so I have to say: dhanyavaadhamulu.


I'm very impressed! You learned that very quickly! Meeru challa ghammuna nerchukunnaru!



Best regards to you. JP
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P.S. oka bhaasha saripoadhu! - One language is never enough!

Baagaa chepperu. Naa pootinni dhesama loni, mooroo kaaposay naalugu bhaashulu undaali!

Well stated. In my birth country, three if not four languages are needed!

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[Zook]

Hi Heyokah,


SATYAM, NYAYAM, DHARMAM
[...]


Basically, I think what Subramanian is saying here ... is that the three quantities do not exist independently of each other. Missing one, is missing all three.

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[heyokah]

Hi Heyokah,



Basically, I think what Subramanian is saying here ... is that the three quantities do not exist independently of each other. Missing one, is missing all three.

:typing:

Yes, a sort of Trinity.
Like Head- Heart -Hands , information- passion/intuition- action