USA: First in World in Gun Ownership – Not Even in Top 100 Countries for Murder Rate

[jerry]

In the following monologue, Whittle brilliantly displays something pointed out concerning how the socialist and communist gun grabbers in America demonize guns. He exposes their bias to all of the relevant FBI data at their disposal.

Whittle rightly points out that America tops the list of guns per capita. There are 90 guns per every 100 people. Not only does this arsenal among the American people make it a force to be reckoned with against those who would seek to dominate the US population, but these weapons are the means of fighting against tyranny and oppression


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The socialists and communists would have us believe that America, because she has so many guns in the hands of private citizens, that she would have the greatest per capita murder rate as well. Well, that would be a false assumption. The number one country with the highest murder rate is a socialist country, Honduras!

In fact, compare America's per capita murder rate of 4.7 per 100,000 resident to that of a US city like Detroit, Michigan, where socialist and communist Democrats have imposed massive gun control. In Detroit, the murder rate is 54.6 per 100,000. Consider that is Detroit was a country, it would be in second place, just behind Honduras!

Out of 218 countries, "gun culture America" didn't even make it into the top 100 of those countries with the highest murder rates per capita. She came in 111. Imagine that!

Read more at http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/01/us...aUHuLfkBwJd.99


http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/01/us...s-murder-rate/

[Ernie Nemeth]

For a moment, this had me going. Then I realized, that is the number of murders, not the aggregate number of murders and accidental gun killings.....

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

I suspect that the majority of gun owners are police,
and that police rarely go to prison (or even court) for murder in the USA.

It would suck if they became the reason the UN had an excuse to disarm the general public.

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[ghostrider]

the first step to takeover of a country , is taking their means to protect/defend themselves .. Now they want to outlaw body armor for citizens ..

[WhiteLove]

Guns are evil, but in the process of disarming the world it must go from heavy to light weaponry. It is however of course as vitally important that guns are removed too. With only guns around, we'll never have any true peace.

[WhiteLove]

the first step to takeover of a country , is taking their means to protect/defend themselves .. Now they want to outlaw body armor for citizens ..

In itself removing guns is not bad, the problem is when removing the least important weapons first, it violates all logical ideas about how to safely disarm the world. But please try to stay positive about gun removal but with the condition attached that we need to see weapons of mass destruction go down first. Having a wide gun law debate in the context of an earth being close to exploding by the heavy weaponry, is a debate that should be tailored to the "big guns". So anytime you get the chance to throw an argument in the face of politicians defending or nor defending gun ownership by law, ask them this question: Is it not more important to discuss disarming of weapons of mass destruction? Imagine if Mr. Obama suddenly would get that question in his face in the middle of a 60 minutes interview when first argumenting against his view on guns whatever it might be, knowing that right now it's a silly debate to begin with. He would just turn: Nothing comes out of my mouth... And that's what you want, so that the people can see the truth that also the president needs help - that we the people are in charge now.

[Calz]

Ah ... but the stat that cannot be answered is how many of those overseas murders are actually due to USA (more accurately the banksters)???

Very little is what it seems ...

[ghostrider]

the first step to takeover of a country , is taking their means to protect/defend themselves .. Now they want to outlaw body armor for citizens ..

In itself removing guns is not bad, the problem is when removing the least important weapons first, it violates all logical ideas about how to safely disarm the world. But please try to stay positive about gun removal but with the condition attached that we need to see weapons of mass destruction go down first. Having a wide gun law debate in the context of an earth being close to exploding by the heavy weaponry, is a debate that should be tailored to the "big guns". So anytime you get the chance to throw an argument in the face of politicians defending or nor defending gun ownership by law, ask them this question: Is it not more important to discuss disarming of weapons of mass destruction? Imagine if Mr. Obama suddenly would get that question in his face in the middle of a 60 minutes interview when first argumenting against his view on guns whatever it might be, knowing that right now it's a silly debate to begin with. He would just turn: Nothing comes out of my mouth... And that's what you want, so that the people can see the truth that also the president needs help - that we the people are in charge now.

If the PTB have all the guns , what do you think they will do to us ??? it really is the last piece of the puzzle we must hold on to ... the right and the ability to defend the innocent against tyranny ...

[outerheaven]

I'm not a gun proponent, per se. I made it clear in the other recent gun thread that I don't think we need them for protection.

But I disagree with the idea that someday in the evolution of our society and our species, we will need to restrict them in any way. I simply don't agree with restrictions of any sort for an evolved, enlightened society. (And yes, we're not there yet; but that does not mean, IMO, that we need to impose restrictions now because we're not there.)

What we need is to grow our spirit, to understand what it means to truly become compassionate, loving people. IMO, the idea that you could restrict something from someone, should be as equally repulsive as the act of harming them.

Right now we're the spiritual equivalent of egomaniacal cavemen, groping around in the dark. It's no wonder we love our incarnation-ending weapons. Also gotta see the humor in that our intense fear of losing our "life," we ensure that we just keep coming right back.

Round and round you go!

[Ernie Nemeth]

Ghost:
If the PTB have all the guns , what do you think they will do to us ??? it really is the last piece of the puzzle we must hold on to ... the right and the ability to defend the innocent against tyranny ...

Not seeming to be making much of a difference right now as America continues its drive to become a police state. Who is protecting the rights of the innocent when everyone's rights are trampled?

Here in Canada we are already on the brink of the police state, what difference would a gun in my hand make?

Those that live by the gun, die by the gun. Course that idiom applies to our masters as well.

edit: of course if here in Canada we had the right to bare arms, I would be a staunch supporter of keeping our guns! So here's to America - the only chance we got left

[Dennis Leahy]

...how the socialist and communist gun grabbers ...Why not just say, "gun grabbers"? Why add the political ideological reference tags, which are, by the way, used erroneously. There are no socialists in the US government, and no communists. There are fascists, corporatists, plutocrats, kleptocrats, oligarchs...and maybe a hundred other words that describe greed-driven minions of the Ruling Elite, but not socialists or communists.

[DeDukshyn]

For a moment, this had me going. Then I realized, that is the number of murders, not the aggregate number of murders and accidental gun killings.....

It's a political piece, so I would take it all with a grain of salt.

Whenever you see thing being presented for political motivation, or political positioning, well, it's all just lame politics. Let's not pretend that one of the two available "parties" in the US isn't owned by the same "puppeteers".

Not that I think the problem is guns themselves, I do not (so I support that theme) ...

[Wind]

The gun thing must be a cultural thing. Here in the far north we have so many guns per capita (29.1 per 100 residents to be exact and that's three time less than in the US!) and it used to be fairly easy to get a gun only less than a decade ago, not so much these days after something bad happened, twice. Those events were used as political hobby horses, it was just so much easier than actually look into the real problems which lie in the society and in the human condition overall. Did you know that here in Finland police shot only six times in 2013? Yes, you read right. None of those shots were nowhere near close to lethal. It is literally the last resort for the police to use a gun here and often they might even get prosecuted for doing so! So might you if you want to defend yourself with a gun.

Sure hunters still get guns fairly easily and if you were really dedicated, you could get a gun. Though never for self defense. I could get a gun and would know how to use it, but would I feel safer while having a gun in my house, even if a safe locker? No, I just realize that I would never would use a gun on human being, even if it meant the end of my life.

Of course it was about my family, it would be a tougher issue. Still, I hope that it never comes to that. I'm not too earnest to sticking around in this madhouse here, I think I'll just prefer the Ben Kenobi way...

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[Ernie Nemeth]

When we shed our mortal coils and reconstitute within totality as simultaneously part and whole in full awareness - we are more powerful than anyone alive could imagine, until it happens in turn to them.

[Skyhaven]

Of all developed countries the US has the most gun deaths:

Source: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2013/09/19/u-s-has-more-guns-and-gun-deaths-than-any-other-country-study-finds/

[Heartsong]

I'd like to see the make-up of the original statistics. 90 guns per 100 persons.
Does this number of guns include the number in warehouses, museums, police and national guard arsenals?
Does the number of people include children, incarcerated, elderly, blind and infirm, or people who carry weapons for their jobs?
A distortion on either side of the equation could make this 90 per 100 look very different and invalidate the original "facts" presented.

[jerry]

ABC really? the stats from freedomoutpost were so conveniently removed and now page is unavailable. Is it just me or does it seem odd to anyone else. then consider Sandy Hook

[shadowstalker]

I wonder how many ppl died in wars for thousands of years, before guns where invented.

Guns are new on the scene, guns are not evil.

Only ppl can commit to what is considered an evil act, not an inanimate object.

Inanimate objects are a slave to our will, they have no say in what we do with them.