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shadowstalker
1st February 2015, 00:40
Measles continues to spread as scientists urge parents to vaccinate children (http://news.yahoo.com/measles-continues-to-spread-as-scientists-urge-parents-to-vaccinate-children-194701325.html)
Health officials confirm that more than 100 people have been infected with measles in the United States since December.
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There are 91 confirmed cases in California alone, most linked to an outbreak at Disneyland, but the virus has made its way to New York as well.
A student at Bard College in Dutchess County, N.Y., sent shivers throughout the state Friday, after it was discovered that he had boarded an Amtrak train in Manhattan’s bustling Penn Station earlier in the week.
The infected individual traveled about 100 miles north and got off in Rhinecliff, N.Y., possibly exposing other commuters to the disease, Officials with Bard College say that the student has been isolated during his recovery.
The New York State Department of Health released a statement advising anyone who may have been exposed to the airborne virus and exhibits symptoms – a fever, runny nose or blotchy rash – to call their health care provider before going for care.
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“This will help to prevent others at these facilities from being exposed to the illness," the statement reads.
New York State Law requires all college students to provide proof of of immunization to measles, among other diseases.
Authorities say there have been three confirmed cases of measles in New York State; two in New York City and one in Dutchess County.
The California Department of Public Health says that at least 58 of the state's 91 cases involve people who went to Disneyland in Anaheim or had contact with someone who did.
Health officials suspect that the outbreak started after an infected person from another country visited the theme park between Dec. 15 and Dec. 20.
The Associated Press says that at least six other U.S. states have measles cases connected to the Disneyland outbreak: Colorado, Oregon, Nebraska, Arizona, Utah and Washington.
The national conversation has drifted back to the anti-vaccination movement. Anti-vaccination activists have convinced a small number of parents not to inoculate their children, arguing that vaccines can supposedly cause autism.
Scientists, on the other hand, say that the vaccines are safe and that the research fueling the anti-vaccination movement has been debunked.
On Thursday, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention urged Americans to get inoculated for the disease.
The following day, the White House said parents should listen to the overwhelming consensus of scientists and public health officials.
"People should evaluate this for themselves, with a bias toward good science and toward the advice of our public health professionals," said Josh Earnest, spokesman for President Barack Obama.
There have been no reported deaths in connection with the outbreak.
Measles is a highly contagious disease that was once quite common in the United States but declined significantly because of higher vaccination rates. By 2000, it had been declared officially eradicated from the United States.
Tesla_WTC_Solution
1st February 2015, 00:51
Perhaps a real research site might help us see the truth of what can happen in a petri dish like Disneyland:
http://jid.oxfordjournals.org/content/204/suppl_1/S47.full
Measles Virus Genetic Diversity
Theoretically, selective pressure on measles viruses to mutate neutralizing epitopes and escape the protective immune responses induced by vaccines could be a biological obstacle to measles eradication. Estimates of mutation rates in measles virus range from 10−4 to 10−3 per nucleotide per year [34]. However, despite the high degree of genetic variation expected of a single-stranded RNA virus, mutations in the measles virus genome have not reduced the protective immunity induced by measles vaccines. Serum specimens from vaccinated persons and from persons naturally infected during the 1950s and 1960s had comparable neutralization titers to vaccine viruses and to more recently isolated wild-type measles viruses, although serum samples from persons infected in the 1990s had higher neutralization titers to the homologous wild-type virus [35].
people who recently survived measles seem to have far better immunity than the vaccinated crowd according to the above research
35.↵ Tamin A, Rota PA, Wang ZD, Heath JL, Anderson LJ, Bellini WJ. Antigenic analysis of current wild type and vaccine strains of measles virus. J Infect Dis 1994;170:795-801.
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I choose not to vaccinate myself or my family due to research that supports nutrition and sanitation as a better preventive measure, along with sunshine and exercise,
over a vaccine that cannot keep up with current wild strains or even rival natural immunity due to natural infection
the vaccine is simply inferior in many cases to natural immunity
can't we make a safe form of the crap and just get sick together for a week,
instead of sniping one kid at a time through faulty and outdated vaccines
p.s. i stopped having any interest in going to disneyland when they stopped encouraging straight people to work there
now they are spreading a new plague
sumkat
1st February 2015, 00:56
there is no vaccine that works,in fact you are likely to contract the disease because of the vac
shadowstalker
1st February 2015, 02:20
p.s. i stopped having any interest in going to disneyland when they stopped encouraging straight people to work there
now they are spreading a new plague
Color me ignorant but what do you mean new plague????
Lifebringer
1st February 2015, 03:16
Looks like the best place to spread a virus a child's amusement part with lots or worried parents who have money for Disney and healthcare cost.
I remember stating in 2007 that" if we had public health services/healthcare, it wouldn't cost as much because "everyone won't be sick at the same time." Ha. Looks like they're using the last worse scenerios. Hmm..:confused:
Can you imagine if it was Ebola. Phew! Ducked one there fer sure. I hope it's just an unvaccinated child, but you never know. Going past a guard rail with gloves on touching exit rails can do lots of damage to business also. :confused:
Ernie Nemeth
1st February 2015, 03:40
Not long ago, measles was just a childhood disease. I had it, both my sisters did too. Along with German measles, chicken pox, scarlet fever (that was a bad one), and pneumonia (double). I don't get sick very much since reaching adulthood. I rarely get the flu for instance - even if exposed.
So I wonder if maybe these diseases have a purpose....
Hip Hipnotist
1st February 2015, 04:22
Of topic interest...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrLv-SHaMUc&x-yt-cl=85114404&x-yt-ts=1422579428
Loptr
1st February 2015, 09:36
More fear tactics by TPTB to encourage people to have their children vaccinated... Who knows what is in the vaccine and what it will do to anyone inoculated... Much like the Swine Flu vaccinations that caused autism and neurological issues for many... Measles is not a pandemic, or even dangerous in and of itself... When I was a child, everyone got the measles, chicken pox and most got the mumps... Parents would send their kids to a neighbors house that had kids with these "maladies" so they would catch it, just to go ahead and get it over with... I trust our leaders less and less every day... Sad, but true...
Calz
1st February 2015, 09:43
Well the problem comes with what is happening in California ... no shot ... kid goes home for 3 weeks.
Ah ... well ... that isn't so bad is it???
Actually ... state laws vary ... but here if your kid misses 20 days for the year you have to go before "the man" and things may not go well ... ie ... perhaps the state decides you have been such terrible parents your child should be removed by the state (you know ... to the elite ... right???).
Same or perhaps worse than mandatory vaccination ...
Matt P
1st February 2015, 11:49
Tesla: "can't we make a safe form of the crap and just get sick together for a week, instead of sniping one kid at a time through faulty and outdated vaccines"
Hammer meet nail.
Rebel: "So I wonder if maybe these diseases have a purpose"
Direct hit #2.
This is what it boils down to. Two choices. Get the measles once, live, and then have a lifetime of perfect immunity...or...two, get a vaccine every year that has no evidence of effectiveness, will probably create the disease you want to avoid, with a huge list of side effects, some known, some unknown and cross your fingers for a lifetime not knowing what disease you may or may not "catch."
Yeah, the "diseases" have a purpose: make your immune system strong.
On an aside, Shadowstalker: I suppose the new plague Tesla is referring to is the plague of ignorance.
If you want to understand the whole story of measles, read Dr. Suzanne Humphries' Dissolving Illusions.
Matt
Tesla_WTC_Solution
1st February 2015, 21:19
i didnt mean gay people are a plague.
i mean, disneyland is kind of like going to any crowded place,
it's a point of sale not only for fun but for illness,
i.e. if you want the flu go to a theme park!!!!!!
and yes, in the past the company and its theme parks got into trouble for discriminating against straight folks in the hiring process.
i had gay friends in high school etc. even my prom date turned out to be (didnt tell me first),
that's not what i meant,
but propaganda is a plague,
ignorance is a plague,
discrimination is a plague
disneyland isnt a great place to go in the winter,
lots of diseases actually spread more in cold weather than in summer
like malaria for example.
i know very little about measles except that it crippled helen keller and was all but eradicated,
i wonder who let it out of the freezer.
:tape::tape:
shadow i was SO pissed off yesterday at someone else not on PA,
it was not your fault , but my post sounded really raggy
Snowflower
1st February 2015, 21:42
Tesla, she meant the plague of a new measles outbreak.
I have ten grandchildren at greater risk of serious complications from measles due to the insanity of vaccinations. None of them are vaccinated. This is good, but because most are, then when it comes thru, it's far worse than it was when I was a child and just got measles.
shadowstalker
1st February 2015, 21:59
shadow i was SO pissed off yesterday at someone else not on PA,
it was not your fault , but my post sounded really raggy
LOL yes it did, that's why I asked instead of assuming,yes it did sounds a bit off..... lol
Thank you so much for clarifying.
Tesla_WTC_Solution
2nd February 2015, 20:18
mr Obama is acting the peddler today :(
i saw on CNN he is telling people to get the shots.
>_< then the next president gets blamed when we're all ill
Tangri
2nd February 2015, 22:52
It was noted 3 months ago.
9-If Some crazy human scientist put Measles DNA in Ebola or in D68 then the cabal(both dark and white) has to answer for that neglect.(8, 9)
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75776-THE-HOT-ZONE-A-chilling-1995-book-about-Ebola&p=890090&viewfull=1#post890090
Ernie Nemeth
4th February 2015, 17:19
I don't accept this co-incidence!
Four days after posting here and accosted by illness? Nice try, you lovely misguided cabal-type shills... I will overcome before I get sick.
This site is just as dangerous as my security program warns me it is every time I come here. But I like to mix it up with the enemy.
They have little power over me, being not in any way susceptible to their childish and even amateurish conjurings. Like I might once have been.
Instead, have a blast of the worst thing imaginable to types like you - love!
Hugs and kisses
Hervé
15th February 2015, 14:29
Dr. Suzanne Humphries, M.D. – Vaccine Strain of Measles Virus Found in Measles Outbreaks
(http://vaccineimpact.com/2015/dr-suzanne-humphries-m-d-vaccine-strain-of-measles-virus-found-in-measles-outbreaks/#sthash.aS0KIsun.dpuf)
http://www.sott.net/image/s11/228616/large/suzzane_humphries_measles_shed.jpg
Dr. Suzanne Humphries, M.D. – YouTube
Health Impact News Editor Comments
Dr. Suzanne Humphries is a practicing nephrologist (kidney physician). In this lecture (video below), she addresses a study done in Croatia [1] where a child who was vaccinated with the MMR vaccine was tested positive for the measles vaccine strain Schwarz eight days after vaccination.
This was a significant finding, because the child’s symptoms were thought to be similar to rubella, and without testing, the sickness would have been possibly mis-diagnosed as rubella, or the wild-type strain of measles the vaccine is designed to protect against.
This concept of “shedding,” where the child comes down with the disease from the virus in the vaccine itself, surprised the researchers:
Virus excretion in vaccinees has been reported before, but to our knowledge, this is documented for the first time for the Schwarz vaccine strain. [1] Since 2010, this phenomena of vaccine shedding with measles in the MMR vaccine has been observed in at least two other studies:
Differentiating the wild from the attenuated during a measles outbreak. Paediatrcis and Child Health, 2012:
In the midst of a local measles outbreak, a recently immunized child was investigated for a new-onset measles-type rash. Nucleic acid testing identified that a vaccine-type measles virus was being shed in the urine. Clinically differentiating measles from a nonmeasles rash is challenging, but can be supported by a thorough medical history evaluation. Rashes are expected to occur after immunization; nucleic acid testing can be used when it is difficult to differentiate between wild and attenuated strains. [2] Case of vaccine-associated measles five weeks post-immunisation, British Columbia, Canada, Eurosurveillance, 2013:
We describe a case of vaccine-associated measles in a two-year-old patient from British Columbia, Canada, in October 2013, who received her first dose of measles-containing vaccine 37 days prior to onset of prodromal symptoms. Identification of this delayed vaccine-associated case occurred in the context of an outbreak investigation of a measles cluster. [3] Are health officials testing cases of measles in the current outbreak in the United States, to determine if the measles strain is the wild strain of the vaccine strain?
Not likely, and it is not likely that the mainstream media “TV doctors” will even discuss this as they falsely vilify parents who choose not to administer the MMR vaccine to their children as the cause of these outbreaks. Some of these cases are confirmed to be among those who have received the MMR vaccine, and for those who have not been vaccinated, is it possible they were infected from those recently vaccinated when the vaccine was still “shedding,” and that the vaccine-strain of measles was passed on from the vaccinated child to the unvaccinated child?
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References
1. Spotlight on measles 2010: excretion of vaccine strain measles virus in urine and pharyngeal secretions of a child with vaccine associated febrile rash illness, Croatia, March 2010. Croatian Institute of Public Health, Department of Infectious Disease Epidemiology, Zagreb, Croatia. Eurosurveillance, Volume 15, Issue 35, 02 September 2010 (Full Text (http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=19652))
2. Differentiating the wild from the attenuated during a measles outbreak. Communicable Disease Control, Alberta Health Services. Pediatricians and Child Health, Apr. 2012; 17(4) (Abstract (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23543773))
3. Case of vaccine-associated measles five weeks post-immunisation, Eurosurveillance, Volume 18, Issue 49, 05 December 2013 (Full Text (http://www.eurosurveillance.org/ViewArticle.aspx?ArticleId=20649))
Dissolving Illusions: Disease, Vaccines, and The Forgotten History
by Dr. Suzanne Humphries and Roman Bystrianyk
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