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truthseekerdan
10th November 2010, 16:21
G.W. Bush has appeared on MSM for the past few days giving interviews and promoting his book.
Is he trying to divert attention from other facts coming to haunt him?

http://previous.presstv.ir/photo/20101110/fazaeli-fatemeh20101110092021920.jpg

Former US President George W. Bush, who is responsible for waging two wars on Afghanistan and Iraq, is back on media covers, but this time as a figure who has been wronged.


Following the release of his memoir entitled “Decision Points" last week, Bush made a media tour after nearly two years of silence, once again raising controversy over his remarks.

But the 43rd US president is being only lightly challenged on his eight years in the White House.

By lingering mostly on emotions and the unforeseen complications of his presidency, Bush has successfully managed to divert media attentions from his worst moments in the Oval Office.

In his book, the former US leader ironically portrays himself as a reluctant warrior who had qualms about resorting to force.

He, however, firmly defends his decisions during his presidency, including the wars he waged on Afghanistan and Iraq which has so far killed millions of people.

But the 64-year-old has abdicated all responsibilities for the deaths of Iraqi and Afghan civilians, claiming that even though he “feels terrible” for the deaths, they were inevitable as they were for a better cause -- that is the so-called “liberation” of millions of other civilians.

In his memoir, Bush also admits that he personally approved a request by CIA agents to use waterboarding and other forms of torture in the interrogation of so-called "terror suspects." He argues that his decision helped save lives.

Bush's autobiography, which has been much publicized in the mainstream media, is considered as an attempt to politically resurrect the ex-president's badly-tainted reputation during his tenure.

This is while many human rights activists believe that Bush is a war criminal who should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.

They blame the former US leader of:

1) Unleashing a war against Afghanistan in 2001 with the official objective of curbing militancy and bringing peace and stability to the country. Nine years on, however, American and Afghan officials admit that the country remains unstable as civilians continue to pay the heaviest toll. Since October 2001, over 100,000 Afghans have died and many others sustained injuries in US-led operations in Afghanistan, while the American army has lost over 1,370 soldiers.

2) Engaging the United States in yet another war -- this time in Iraq. The US spearheaded the 2003 Iraq invasion after Bush and former British Prime Minister Tony Blair built the case for it by claiming that Baghdad had weapons of mass destruction (WMD).

3) The US-led troops never found any such weapons, and official statistics show nearly a million Iraqis have been killed since the invasion. Over 4,300 US troops have also died in Iraq.

4) Involving private security firms in the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. One such company known as Blackwater has been involved in the murder of several Afghan citizens over the past years. The company has also been struggling with a trail of legal cases and civil lawsuits, including one for killing 17 Iraqi civilians during a Baghdad shootout in 2007. Earlier in June, the CIA reportedly admitted that Blackwater had also been loading bombs on US drones targeting suspected militants in Pakistan.

5) The torture of hundreds of Iraqis, Afghans and other Muslims. In 2004, heart wrenching articles, including pictures showing US military personnel appearing to abuse Iraqi prisoners, came to public attention. The reports later revealed accounts of physical, psychological, and sexual abuse, including torture, rape, sodomy, and homicide of prisoners in US detention facilities such as Abu Ghraib in Iraq, Bagram in Afghanistan and Guantanamo in Cuba.

6) Inflicting tens of thousands of billion dollars in damage to infrastructures in Iraq and Afghanistan.

7) Spending hundreds of billion dollars from tax-payers money to fuel the US wars overseas and initiating the global financial crisis in 2008, also known as the Great Recession.

Source: here (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/150383.html)

Billiam
10th November 2010, 16:36
Bush will never be tried for war crimes- the institutions would never allow it and the book will only be used to serve the propoganda that these actions were carried out for a greater good instead of a greater evil...

The One
10th November 2010, 16:39
Tony blair should be held accountable aswell

http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/57361,news-comment,news-politics,war-crime-case-against-tony-blair-is-now-rock-solid

Kulapops
10th November 2010, 17:04
Erm.. Nope !

Next question ?

K

Rocky_Shorz
10th November 2010, 17:07
I liked George... such a simple mind but my window into Cheney's...

Fredkc
10th November 2010, 17:07
Bush will never be tried for war crimes- the institutions would never allow it
Welcome Billiam, and I agree.

Bush will never be tried, for the same reason he was never impeached.
For every single Republican politician responsible for the murderous actions my country took over the last 10 years, there is a Democrat JUST as culpable.

Since neither party will EVER be able to point a finger without shooting themselves in the head, Nothing will ever be done in the US. Nor will they allow extradition for trial outside the US.

This is how it will be until both major parties in this country are out of power.

Rocky_Shorz
10th November 2010, 21:11
http://img.allvoices.com/thumbs/image/609/609/66410988-bushs-book-tour.jpg

Ahkenaten
10th November 2010, 21:32
If only we could comfort ourselves by believing Bush II was simply simple-minded. A diabolical satanist is more than likely. He actually believed the bible provided him with justification for his 'rule'................... and what a murderous and disgraceful rule it was.

truthseekerdan
10th November 2010, 22:29
BTW: Don't forget to steal this book...

http://lh3.ggpht.com/_wkgIzuqJM0w/TNpHYZ8v3UI/AAAAAAAAHG4/mWJXUCCkKaY/s800/REVISION%20JOINTS.jpg

Ross
10th November 2010, 22:32
Nope, nada, never...

Zook
11th November 2010, 00:06
Hi Ross,


Nope, nada, never...

Neither Shrub or the Bush before him will be tried as a war criminal as long as the existing national and international judiciaries are play toys of the elites. You remove TPTB ... you remove the built-in immunities. Until then, the best we can hope for is to drag him (kicking and screaming) into an English language court ... and try him as a word criminal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKD_BSMXVjg&feature=player_embedded#!

:typing:

Ross
11th November 2010, 00:08
Neither Shrub or the Bush before him

That gave me a giggle...;)

Banshee
11th November 2010, 00:14
Get to Boeing ... get to Bush. That's the only way. And of course, if the "United Nations" had any teeth, they could certainly try the entire Bush Co. as well as every complicit American citizen for war crimes as well. The crime for the American people, being their intentional ignorance and yankee doodle mentality when it comes to purchasing the propoganda du jour.

I was on a flight to London in March 2003 - the very day that the invasion of Iraq started. I attended the war protests that Saturday. As an American citizen I was mortified at how my fellow countrymen could so willingly follow a false flag operation into war. In fact, I kept repeating to all within earshot that Iraq had absolutely nothing to do with 911. The responses I received suggested that I was unpatriotic. There was a certain satisfaction in watching those same well heeled morons recant their positions years later. So no, unless Boeing is unveiled, Bush will not be. That, however, does not excuse the apathy and ignorance of the American people. And yes, my birthright gives me the right to express that opinion. It may still be a constitutional right? At least for the moment....

norman
11th November 2010, 00:20
Oh come on!.... all you doubters...... have a little faith....

I dream about waking up one day to the news of a military revolt that does an instant 'dawn raid' on all the criminals fortresses. Switzerland is a queer place ( sorry Bill ). South America would probably be in the news too. I'll bet there won't be many raids in America though, they've evacuated from there by now.

"...... Those well healed, subversive, soft-focus billionairs

They don't live 'round hear

You can't find one anywhere

Livin' by the royalties on the rules they write

Even got a monopoly on international flite

I wake up, there's a siren on, like a song getting sung from a gun!......"

Banshee
11th November 2010, 00:36
That gave me a giggle...;)

"hear! hear!!" That was very clever!

truth will win out
11th November 2010, 00:42
George belongs in the Hague... Pretty much that whole Adminstration should be charged with crimes againist humanity...

truthseekerdan
11th November 2010, 00:46
Hi Ross,



Neither Shrub or the Bush before him will be tried as a war criminal as long as the existing national and international judiciaries are play toys of the elites. You remove TPTB ... you remove the built-in immunities. Until then, the best we can hope for is to drag him (kicking and screaming) into an English language court ... and try him as a word criminal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TKD_BSMXVjg&feature=player_embedded#!

:typing:

That was hilarious, Zook. :lol: Looks like he didn't escape GMO & MSG disease himself. :wink:

truthseekerdan
11th November 2010, 15:43
Ex-Chancellor Schröder Says Bush 'Is Not Telling the Truth'

Former German Chancellor Gerhard Schröder has said that ex-US President George W. Bush is not telling the truth in his memoirs, released on Tuesday. Schröder said he never offered his unconditional support for Bush's aggressive policy against Iraq.

Read more: http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,728217,00.html

Snowbird
14th November 2010, 03:53
Personally? I think that after George Sr. passes over, that there won't be that fierce force to protect the son. While Sr. is alive and anyone attempts to prosecute Jr., Sr. will make sure that the attempter is severly punished.

Now that the confession has been printed for all the world to read, if Obama does not perform his legal duty and obligation to this country in this matter, there may very well be grounds for impeachment.

Democratic Congressman Nadler: ‘Shameful’ ‘dereliction of duty’ not to prosecute Bush

Representative Jerrold Nadler (D-NY) told MSNBC's Ed Schultz that United States Attorney General Eric Holder should launch an investigation into former President Bush's authorization of waterboarding.

In his new memoir, titled Decision Points, Bush admits he personally authorized waterboarding to be used on CIA detainees. Waterboarding is an interrogation technique that simulates the feeling of drowning.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/11/rep-nadler-holder-prosecute-bush/



UN Torture Rapporteur: "Couldn't Be More Clear" That Waterboarding Is Torture, "Immoral and Illegal"

Saturday 13 November 2010


On Thursday, the American Civil Liberties Union “joined a growing chorus in the human rights community calling for a special prosecutor to investigate” Bush’s use of waterboading to determine whether his administration “violated federal statutes prohibiting torture.” “[T]he former President’s acknowledgment that he authorized torture is absolutely without parallel in American history,” the ACLU wrote in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder.

And yesterday, the United Nations’ Special Rapporteur on Torture, Juan Mendez — who was himself tortured by the Argentinean junta in the 1970s — firmly stated that waterboarding is torture — “immoral and illegal.” In a radio interview with Mark Colvin of ABC News in Australia, Mendez said the legal memos authorizing waterboaring that Bush “hides behind” were “completely flawed,” and that there isn’t “any question” under international law that what Bush authorized was torture:

JUAN MENDEZ: Mr Bush hides behind the fact that he is not a lawyer and he has this folksy you know kind of cute way of saying, well the lawyers told me it was legal, as if he didn’t know that it’s immoral. You know? Immoral and illegal. I mean he can’t really hide behind his lawyers.

I mean he was very hypocritical of him to say something like that. I mean it’s been so clearly established that those memos were, they don’t even deserve the name of legal memos because they are completely flawed from the legal reasoning. But even worse they are morally flawed as well.

MARK COLVIN: There’s no question that in international law waterboarding is torture?

JUAN MENDEZ: I don’t think there is any question, any serious question....

http://www.truth-out.org/un-torture-rapporteur-couldnt-be-more-clear-that-waterboarding-is-torture-immoral-and-illegal65096

Vaughn
14th November 2010, 04:20
Daddy would never allow it.

truthseekerdan
15th November 2010, 17:04
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_NnjaXWUZo2s/TNv0KxuTUEI/AAAAAAAAA7s/JKqKzCoD7Uo/s1600/308858.jpg

Famed Charles Manson prosecutor and three time #1 New York Times bestselling author Vincent Bugliosi stars in this most powerful, explosive, and thought-provoking documentary.

In The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder, Bugliosi presents a tight, meticulously researched legal case that puts George W. Bush on trial in an American courtroom for the murder of nearly 4,000 American soldiers fighting the war in Iraq. Bugliosi sets forth the legal architecture and incontrovertible evidence that President Bush took this nation to war in Iraq under false pretenses—a war that has not only caused the deaths of American soldiers but also over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women, and children; cost the United States over one trillion dollars thus far with no end in sight; and alienated many American allies in the Western world.

As a prosecutor who is dedicated to seeking justice, Bugliosi, in his inimitable style, delivers a non-partisan argument, free from party lines and instead based upon hard facts and pure objectivity.

A searing indictment of the President and his administration, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder also outlines a legally credible pathway to holding our highest government officials accountable for their actions, thereby creating a framework for future occupants of the oval office.

Vincent Bugliosi calls for the United States of America to return to the great nation it once was and can be again. He believes the first step to achieving this goal is to bring those responsible for the war in Iraq to justice.

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Rocky_Shorz
26th November 2010, 22:27
Holiday Shocker: George W. Bush Awarded the Medal of Honor


Washington, D.C. - As part of what the president has dubbed his "National Healing Initiative," Mr. Obama announced late yesterday that the next recipient of the prestigious Medal of Honor will be former President George W. Bush. This most recent gesture of President Obama's post-election goodwill toward Republicans has stunned Washington insiders and the public alike, especially those who have accused him of being reluctant to take bold action since coming to Washington.

Mr. Obama issued only a brief statement, saying, "It is time to recognize the courage and unwavering conviction that marked President Bush's time in office." At a meeting with reporters earlier today White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs gave a fuller explanation for this unexpected decision...

full story (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-ducat/holiday-shocker-george-w-_b_788498.html)

Erin
26th November 2010, 22:42
full story (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/stephen-ducat/holiday-shocker-george-w-_b_788498.html)

The above is satire.

Still, I doubt Obama (or anyone else, for that matter) has the balls to bring Bush to justice. I doubt he'll ever face charges... but I guess one can dream.

Teakai
8th February 2011, 22:44
Came across this story from the 6th February.
George Bush cancels a trip to Switzerland for fear of being arrested.
http://video.theaustralian.com.au/1782304569/Arrest-threat-halts-Bush-Geneva-visit

jackovesk
9th February 2011, 02:02
I must say I totally understand all of you who think George W.Bush...will never be tried for War Crimes...

BUT...

I Disagree, HE WILL & SO WILL RUMSFELD & CHENEY!

If you guys have'nt noticed the Tides are ever so slighty Turning in Humanities Favor, you should have...

Over the next 2 years alot of these CRIMINALS will be in court FACING the MUSIC..!

Don't believe me? Just you wait and see...

Chicodoodoo
9th February 2011, 02:24
Justice demands that our entire system be put on trial. As long as sociopaths rule, the system will remain a chronic disease.

steven69
9th February 2011, 02:39
I must say I totally understand all of you who think George W.Bush...will never be tried for War Crimes...

BUT...

I Disagree, HE WILL & SO WILL RUMSFELD & CHENEY!

If you guys have'nt noticed the Tides are ever so slighty Turning in Humanities Favor, you should have...

Over the next 2 years alot of these CRIMINALS will be in court FACING the MUSIC..!

Don't believe me? Just you wait and see...

Hi Jackovesk,

I agree the tide is turning and Mr Blair (ex UK Prime Minister) will hopefully be added to the list as well if my reading between the lines is right - it is important that all all those involved in crimes against humanity stand trial but will we eventually have to forgive them all as well to allow us all to move forward?

Best wishes, Steven