UFO Witnesses, Ever Feel Like You're Being Watched?

[Roisin]

I'm a UFO witness and "experiencer". But this is a question for people who have seen a UFO relatively close-up like I have, do you ever feel like you are being "watched"? If so, could you tell us about that?

[RUSirius]

Primarily, absolutely. Usually they depart at the moment I notice them.

[Roisin]

So how do they appear to you? IOW, what do they look like to you? Can you describe them?

[grannyfranny100]

Watched - no; monitored - yes in most helpful ways without infringement on my free will.

[RUSirius]

So how do they appear to you? IOW, what do they look like to you? Can you describe them?

From balls of light to craft like, or machine like I should say.

[Roisin]

Watched - no; monitored - yes in most helpful ways without infringement on my free will.

Thanks for that input. I understand what you are saying here.


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Thanks for your feedback on that RUSirius.

[rgray222]

I'm a UFO witness and "experiencer". But this is a question for people who have seen a UFO relatively close-up like I have, do you ever feel like you are being "watched"? If so, could you tell us about that?

This is a very interesting question. After your sighting, did your thoughts on Religion, the universe, politics and Life in general start to change. Did you begin to feel an increase in awareness and a speeding up of time. Not the normal speeding up of time that one feels with each year passing year, but a sense that each day is passing by more quickly? Did you have an interest in any new topics or subjects that held no interest for your prior to the sighting?

Is there any chance your misinterpreting the "watching" aspect that you feel, could it be a guiding force making you more inquisitive than you were before? It is not uncommon for people to reject this new altered mindset and to read it as mild paranoia or being watched. To understand you have to view your experience in a positive light and let go of any negative thoughts. I know that sounds a bit vague but I hope you understand what I am saying. Not really looking for any specific answers here just expressing my own personal thoughts and experiences.

[Roisin]

Sometimes it's easier for many of us to preface things in question form than it is to express ourselves in first person wrt this topic. Thanks for your feedback on this rgray.
As for myself, I can say "all of the above" but as for the being "watched" part of it, I think that if I thought my "sensing" of being "watched had more to do with paranoia than anything else, then I would be mentioning that too but that's not the case for me because I know it's not paranoia. But if you yourself feel that it's paranoia when you sense that you are being watched... then thanks for sharing that. And once again, I understand why you would think that too.

[shadowstalker]

Primarily, absolutely. Usually they depart at the moment I notice them.

Same here, but i am getting the feeling it aint just them, but real ppl as well.

In the past couple weeks it's been constant, with the ppl.

[Roisin]

Good point ShadowStalker.... yes, for some, there's that human component too. Sometimes I sense that too.

[shadowstalker]

Good point ShadowStalker.... yes, for some, there's that human component too. Sometimes I sense that too.

I can actually see them, in clothes and everything, it's almost like i am being R.V.d at times, sometimes the feeling stays for hours after they leave.
I haven't been doing anything different.

[Roisin]

Do you ever feel like those ones "work" for some kind of covert entity/org. sometimes?

[RUSirius]

I think its primarily a human component if not solely. Its us not them.

[shadowstalker]

Do you ever feel like those ones "work" for some kind of covert entity/org. sometimes?

They look human but they feel heavy, so who really knows at this point.



I think its primarily a human component if not solely. Its us not them.

Some are but i don't think all

[RUSirius]

I agree, just the majority

[ghostrider]

I never want to see them again ... ever ... shadow people ... ET contact is not what you think it is ... live your life , leave it alone ... ever been in your own bedroom , in the dead dark of night , the world sleeping like zombies and they enter and you get the overwhelming , palm sweating , heartbeat out of the chest , can't move , panic , scared , trauma , cant' breath , can't think , what is that ??? who is that ??? what does he want ??? why is he hear ??? what did I do ??? I didn't ask for this ??? I don't believe it , leave me alone ... leave me alone ... just leave me alone why can't I speak , why can't I move , if I could move I would tackle you , I would , I , breathe , can't move , GET out of my room , Get away from , can't breath , I can see him , he 's laughing at me , he's speaking in my head , I CAN CONTROL YOU WITHOUT TOUCHING YOU HA HA HA ... THEN ALL hope is gone AND YOU KNOW IT ... THEN he leaves , and you can move and nothing is there and no one believes you , they find you running down the street in your boxers like a madman with a gun , sweating ... you really don't want to know , you really don't ... I just relived an old memory from 1987... what the hell I'm gonna leave it on the post ... I need to take a break guys ... my face is hot , my ears are hot , I, whew ... I'm outa this thread

[shadowstalker]

I never want to see them again ... ever ... shadow people ... ET contact is not what you think it is ... live your life , leave it alone ... ever been in your own bedroom , in the dead dark of night , the world sleeping like zombies and they enter and you get the overwhelming , palm sweating , heartbeat out of the chest , can't move , panic , scared , trauma , cant' breath , can't think , what is that ??? who is that ??? what does he want ??? why is he hear ??? what did I do ??? I didn't ask for this ??? I don't believe it , leave me alone ... leave me alone ... just leave me alone why can't I speak , why can't I move , if I could move I would tackle you , I would , I , breathe , can't move , GET out of my room , Get away from , can't breath , I can see him , he 's laughing at me , he's speaking in my head , I CAN CONTROL YOU WITHOUT TOUCHING YOU HA HA HA ... THEN ALL hope is gone AND YOU KNOW IT ... THEN he leaves , and you can move and nothing is there and no one believes you , they find you running down the street in your boxers like a madman with a gun , sweating ... you really don't want to know , you really don't ... I just relived an old memory from 1987... what the hell I'm gonna leave it on the post ... I need to take a break guys ... my face is hot , my ears are hot , I, whew ... I'm outa this thread

Ya I know what that's like, Thank you so much for sharing.

[RMorgan]

Yes, I often have these feelings as well.

The problem is that's hard to discern if these feelings are actually what we believe they are or just a simple by-product of a common neurological phenomena.

These kinds of "being watched" and "foreign presence" feelings have already been reproduced in labs, as explained in this article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11214511/Ghosts-created-by-scientists-in-disturbing-lab-experiment.html

This is the guy behind this study:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mD7NzrBgXwM

Of course, it doesn't mean there aren't actual unexplained and mysterious cases, but shows that at least some cases might be of neurological nature.

Raf.

[Sunny-side-up]

Roisin
Ever Feel Like Ur Being Watched?
I'm a UFO witness and "experiencer". But this is a question for people who have seen a UFO relatively close-up like I have, do you ever feel like you are being "watched"? If so, could you tell us about that?


Primarily, absolutely. Usually they depart at the moment I notice them.

Yes they know when you have observed them as well!
Do you think they ever think 'I'm being watched' ;)

It's all a big-soup' with many flavors and ingredients, all with many different level of awareness/consciousnesses, different levels of contact.

I have seen many craft/beings (Beings not as a recognizable bodily form) through out my life time, never to my knowledge shaken hands with one! If that ever has happened it was when I was young, but then who knows?

I feel I have been kept an eye on though. So what dose that mean? am I of any great importance to them, was I a successful subject and so no more in-detail interaction needed? was I a failed and so no more in-detail interaction needed? O.0

I have always been interests in science and seem to have an inner feeling for the workings of the universe, was never to my knowledge taught it, I've a bad memory and poor schooling as well, but never surprised by the ways things are!

rambling now lol.

[Roisin]

Sense of Being Watched/Stared At

http://www.sheldrake.org/research/se...eing-stared-at


Since the late 1980’s I have been doing research on the sense of being stared at, which has wide implications for the nature of vision and of minds. This research is described in a series of papers (see below). This research is summarized in my book The Sense of Being Stared At, And Other Aspects of the Extended Mind (2003). A fully revised and updated edition of this book was published in the US in 2013 (Inner Traditions, Rochester, VT).

It also led to the publication of a special edition of the Journal of Consciousness Studies (JCS Vol 12 No. 6, 2005) Sheldrake and his Critics: The sense of being glared at.

Rupert explains the sense of being stared at on
Through the Wormhole, with Morgan Freeman


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra7J1CX-GzQ

http://www.sheldrake.org/research/sense-of-being-stared-at

Scientific Papers on The Sense of Being (Watched) Stared At

Distant intentionality and the feeling of being stared at: Two meta-analyses
British Journal of Psychology, 1 May 2004, vol. 95, no. 2, pp. 235-247(13)
by Schmidt S.; Schneider R.; Utts J.; Walach H.
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Abstract
Findings in parapsychology suggest an effect of distant intentionality. Two laboratory set-ups explored this topic by measuring the effect of a distant intention on psychophysiological variables. The 'Direct Mental Interaction in Living Systems' experiment investigates the effect of various intentions on the electrodermal activity of a remote subject. The 'Remote Staring' experiment examines whether gazing by an observer covaries with the electrodermal activity of the person being observed. Two meta-analyses were conducted. A small significant effect size (d =.11, p = .001) was found in 36 studies on 'direct mental interaction', while a best-evidence-synthesis of 7 studies yielded d = .05 (p = .50). In 15 remote staring studies a mean effect size of d = 0.13 (p = .01) was obtained. It is concluded that there are hints of an effect, but also a shortage of independent replications and theoretical concepts.

Special Edition of the Journal of Consciousness Studies
A special edition of the Journal of Consciousness Studies (2005) Vol 12 No. 6
Editorial Introduction by Anthony Freeman: The Sense of Being Glared At
Rupert's papers from the Journal:
Full Text pdf The Sense of Being Stared At - Part 1: Is it Real or Illusory?
Full Text pdf The Sense of Being Stared At - Part 2: Its Implications for Theories of Vision
Full Text pdf The Non-Visual Detection of Staring - Response to Commentators
The complete edition, entitled Sheldrake and His Critics: The Sense of Being Glared At is available in paperback.

Introduction
In 1981 Rupert Sheldrake outraged the scientific establishment with his hypothesis of morphic resonance. Subsequently he devoted his research to pioneering science, winning popular acclaim and continued establishment opprobium with a series of ground-breaking works. In this special edition of JCS, Rupert summarises his case for the 'non-visual detection of staring'. His claims are scrutinised by fourteen critics, to whom Rupert then responds. Anthony Freeman, in his editorial introduction, explores the concept of "heresy" in science and in religion and asks why it provokes such hostility.

Experiments on the Sense of Being Stared At: The Elimination of Possible Artefacts
Journal of the Society for Psychical Research, Vol. 65, pp.122-137 (2001)
by Rupert Sheldrake
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Abstract
The sense of being stared at from behind can be investigated by means of simple experiments in which subjects and lookers work in pairs, with the looker sitting behind the subject. In a random sequence of trials the looker either looks at the back of the subject, or looks away and thinks of something else. In each trial the subject guesses whether or not he or she is being looked at. There is a 50% probability of getting it right by chance. More than 15,000 trials have already been conducted, involving more than 700 subjects, with extremely significant excess of correct over incorrect guesses (Sheldrake, 1999), indicating that people really can tell when they are being looked at from behind. In this paper I discuss possible artifacts that could have affected these results and describe the results of experiments carried out in a school in London in which I investigated the effects of blindfolding subjects and giving them feedback about whether their guesses were correct or not. Blindfolding and feedback had no significant effects. Under all conditions the scores in looking trials were positive and statistically significant, and in not-looking trials at chance levels. I also describe the results of a series of experiments carried out in schools in Ireland with blindfolded subjects who were not given feedback. The significant positive scores in these experiments confirmed that the feeling of being stared at from behind does not depend on visual clues, nor does it depend on the subjects knowing if their guesses are right or wrong.

The Sense of Being Stared At Confirmed by Simple Experiments
Biology Forum 92: 53-76 (1999)
by Rupert Sheldrake
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Abstract
The feeling of being stared from behind is well known all over the world, and most people claim to have experienced it themselves. There have been surprisingly few empirical investigations of this phenomenon. I describe a simple experimental procedure with subjects and lookers working in pairs. In a random sequence of trials, the looker either looked at the back of the subject, or looked away and thought of something else. Such experiments showed a very significant excess of correct over incorrect guesses. When subjects were being looked at, they guessed correctly about 60% of the time, whereas in control trials, when they were not being looked at, their guesses were close to the chance level of 50%. The same pattern of results was found in my own experiments with adult subjects, with two different procedures: in experiments conducted in schools in Connecticut, USA: in experiments conducted by volunteers all around the world; and in a previous series of experiments in schools in Germany and the USA. All these sets of data showed a highly significant effect. Taken together they showed that in looking trials, 427 people were more often right than wrong, as opposed to 157 who were more often wrong than right. This difference is extremely significant (p<1x10-25). In the control trials, there was no significant difference between the number of people who were more often right than wrong (294) and more often wrong than right (287). These results suggest that the feeling of being looked at from behind is a real phenomenon that depends on factors as yet unknown to science. Non-human animals may also share this kind of sensitivity, which may be of evolutionary significance in the relationships between predators and prey.

[shadowstalker]

Nice piece Roisin..

[Sunny-side-up]

Roisin being watched at by a human is one thing, you can tell if you are tuned and mind clear of other influences, but knowing your being watched at by say, an ET, that's a full blown Telepathic being, I would say is a given, unless said ET won'ts you not to know that is.

[donk]

My babe felt like she was being watched MORE (she always feels like she's being watched...and sees "ships"--she never calls them UFOs--all the time) when she was reading this (which inceidentally describes the feeling of being watched as a symptom):

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79569-psychic-attack-comprehensive-article-by-Thomas-Sheridan

[donk]

Today she had dream where she described a “research place” with people in tins (she doesn’t read more than captions or short articles, and was never into sci-fi til I met her…so when I pressed her she described the “cloning tank” type things)…some evil dude killed everybody in there, and she had fast forwarded to the place being long since switched to just a building that was “haunted”, there was some sort of party going on, she thinks it was “her” (she described the rest of dream as if she was RVing it…she has no idea about RVing, I don’t know too much either) anyways—said she went to the bathroom and saw all the “people” she saw before but no one else could, she said they were protecting the people even though they were scared of the “haunting”.

Anyway she doesn’t describe stuff too well and I do my best not to lead her or project anything on to her…these were the fragments that were creeping her out this morning.

I know that when I first started studying the “aabduction” phenomon, she projected a lot of it back to me. I am not certain how much she actually experienced as she (or some aspect of her…or even possibly something possessing or using “her”) has exhibited a sort of telekinetic connection with me and often says thing uncharacteristic—but exactly what was recently vbrought into MY awareness.

High strangeness…and always seemingly indirect (for me…I’m not sure I ever saw a UFO…I’ve seen ships far away, specks of light behaving unlike a satellite, one even “charging up” at James Gilliland’s ranch..but don’’t remember anything else.

I want to upload a video, perhaps tonight from home, a flock of birds flew at me way lower than I ever saw, it was really cool actually…they were circling my neighborhood, up to my kids’ school on the other side and when I drove past my house still flying just over (and next to) it…and as I drove to work no matter which direction I drove it seemed there were all the bird flocks headed toward that direction.

The only thing about that is that I had just watched the movie “Dark Skies”, which portrays the “common” grey abduction story, with every cliché in the conspiracy book…but one I never heard (or paid attention to) was three different flocks of birds hurling themselves at the abductee’s house. Maybe it's ME, manifesting something

High strangeness these days. It seems whenever my family is on the “upswing”, and everything going great in the mundane….the paranormal stuff keeps ramping up. I dunno why I even felt compelled to post here, I never see ships or lights or ghosts or anything, all my experience is 2nd hand, I've never really felt like i was watched...sorry for hte interruption

[krsanna]

Sense of Being Watched/Stared At

http://www.sheldrake.org/research/se...eing-stared-at

[QUOTE]Since the late 1980’s I have been doing research on the sense of being stared at, which has wide implications for the nature of vision and of minds. This research is described in a series of papers (see below). This research is summarized in my book The Sense of Being Stared At, And Other Aspects of the Extended Mind (2003). A fully revised and updated edition of this book was published in the US in 2013 (Inner Traditions, Rochester, VT).

These senses and one's responses to them reflect 1) the range of one's conscious energy field and 2) nexus of consciousness, i.e., the perspective from which one assumes consciousness. I've had conscious "contact" on several levels (including UFO) since a small child. I've realized that I am as much a part of the equation of receiving and giving sensory, emotional and mental information as "the other," the "they." This awareness has grown with a memory of "the other" teaching me to read when I was six. This memory keeps information exchanges in fields of information in perspective. I'll very briefly describe the background.

In the town where my family lived when I was five, kindergarten was not offered in the public school. We moved to a different city the summer before I started the first grade, when six years old. When I started the first grade all the other kids had gone to kindergarten, because that city offered kindergarten. All the other kids had learned the alphabet and started recognizing words. I was floundering, because I simply had not gone to the same school. In the new school, the children all sat in small chairs with the teacher in a full-size adult chair. I felt like a tiny speck swimming in a sea of confusion. The day the teacher angrily informed me I didn't know how to read was my last day in class that year. It was shortly after the Christmas break (January and February), and holding back gushing tears took all the effort I could muster. I cried all the way home and decided I didn't ever want to go back to school. By the time I had walked four blocks home, I could not walk. The doctor found a bag of blood and water behind my knee cap was crippling. The very real physical condition had started hurting in the four-block walk to my home. I was able to stay home the rest of the year, until May.

My mother informed me in the spring that I would need to repeat the first grade. She thought I would be with the same teacher and classroom. I decided on the spot that was not going to happen. In some instinctive way I knew that I simply must pass the first grade and go on to the second grade. I cried and begged to go back to class and pass the first grade. My poor mother said she would talk to my teacher. They agreed I could take the same tests the other kids did on the last day of school, and, if I passed them I could go to the second grade with the other kids. But, only if I could pass the same tests.

I decided that my knee had to heal immediately and I had to learn to read and write. I sat with a chalkboard I had gotten for Christmas and practiced writing every letter of the alphabet. A kindly sounding man's voice soon joined me, and I sounded out words with him. I learned to read and write with the unseen man who explained sounds and letters, and I could soon write sentences. Then he explained how zero and the decimal system work. When I understood that simple principle, I could add and subtract using the fingers on my hand.

I passed all the tests on the last day of school and went on to the second grade. I had learned to study independently and that I could trust the voice of the nice old man who tutored me. By the time I was in the seventh grade, I stayed home from school and read encyclopedias by myself for fun. By the time I was in the tenth grade, I tested at grade 14 (second year of college) in reading comprehension on tests. I had become an avid reader with a life-long love of reading.

I had a conscious UFO experience in 1963, when a nice old man wearing a mauvish brown cowl picked me up in a beam of light in Oklahoma City. (That's a much longer story I will not go into here.) In 2009 somebody was with me when the doctors announced that I had only hours to live, and my family flew to town to make funeral arrangements. As you can see, I lived. When I asked my contacts how they knew I was on life support, they said only that whenever anybody they have ever contacted is on life support they know it. I didn't bother to ask for the details. I was just glad they knew. My energy, strength and vitality are much better than they have been for decades.

My awareness of what really happened when I learned to read and had UFO and near-death experiences has increased tremendously in recent years. I have realized, for instance, that we extend energy and consciousness to "the others" that connects them with our sphere. Awareness is the key. We humans commonly do things of which we have little or no awareness and call the unawareness the "subconscious" or "unconscious."

In our species' present evolution, it can be hard being human with limited DNA activated. The physical sensory modes are not keen enough yet to perceive the world around us in full detail. The world imaged in infrared looks very different than it does in visible light, and, at this time, our species is still focused in visible light. The state of DNA activation is changing in the transition that many of us sense unfolding in our world. We are still a relatively young species, with Homo sapiens less than 300,000 years old.

Our species is in a growth surge and, we are eating more and more cosmic energy like any youngster in a growing phase. With this new energy comes marvelous new perceptions.

[quiltinggrandma]

could it be that we are picked because of our blood type -rh factor?

[shadowstalker]

I personally don't know about that, unless my blood type has change, I am O postive, and I have had all kinds of encounters including alien.

[RUSirius]

See, I don't have any "encounters" with any non human "folks" that I know of, well one, but that's a different story. I just see a decent amount of craft that I cant identify.

[krsanna]

could it be that we are picked because of our blood type -rh factor?

Criteria for contact undoubtedly varies with the objectives of UFO / ET factions and types of connections people have with them. Ida Kannenberg and I have contact with the same group of human time travelers, who show no interest in harvesting genetic materials. My contacts say they can communicate with us anytime, anywhere and bring UFOs only when they want to do something physical. Light bodies are key to communicating, and they work to develop psychic abilities and light body potentials.

Other people, many whom I personally know, report genetic harvesting and pregnancies. Blood type is undoubtedly a strong interest among those collecting genetic material. I've always suspected that people in genetics programs are related to people in the future who must rejuvenate their genetics. Rh factor could be a concern for them, but collecting compatible genetic material to work with might be a greater concern.

My UFO/ET contacts have never shown any interest in my rh blood type, but they are not generally interested in my genetics.

[Sunny-side-up]

See, I don't have any "encounters" with any non human "folks" that I know of, well one, but that's a different story. I just see a decent amount of craft that I cant identify.

yeah RUSirius, if only we understood our reality, or that is had total recall of it all, think we might all be very surprised ha ;)


Well one?care to expand on that or are you being funny/sarcastic about someone hehe.

[Mandala]

I never want to see them again ... ever ... shadow people ... ET contact is not what you think it is ... live your life , leave it alone ... ever been in your own bedroom , in the dead dark of night , the world sleeping like zombies and they enter and you get the overwhelming , palm sweating , heartbeat out of the chest , can't move , panic , scared , trauma , cant' breath , can't think , what is that ??? who is that ??? what does he want ??? why is he hear ??? what did I do ??? I didn't ask for this ??? I don't believe it , leave me alone ... leave me alone ... just leave me alone why can't I speak , why can't I move , if I could move I would tackle you , I would , I , breathe , can't move , GET out of my room , Get away from , can't breath , I can see him , he 's laughing at me , he's speaking in my head , I CAN CONTROL YOU WITHOUT TOUCHING YOU HA HA HA ... THEN ALL hope is gone AND YOU KNOW IT ... THEN he leaves , and you can move and nothing is there and no one believes you , they find you running down the street in your boxers like a madman with a gun , sweating ... you really don't want to know , you really don't ... I just relived an old memory from 1987... what the hell I'm gonna leave it on the post ... I need to take a break guys ... my face is hot , my ears are hot , I, whew ... I'm outa this thread

Ghost rider, I don't know much about shadow people but the other night an investigator said they were pure evil, bad news and no one really knew much about them. I'm not sure if they mentioned the possibility of ET or alien beings, more like satanic entities.

[ghostrider]

I never want to see them again ... ever ... shadow people ... ET contact is not what you think it is ... live your life , leave it alone ... ever been in your own bedroom , in the dead dark of night , the world sleeping like zombies and they enter and you get the overwhelming , palm sweating , heartbeat out of the chest , can't move , panic , scared , trauma , cant' breath , can't think , what is that ??? who is that ??? what does he want ??? why is he hear ??? what did I do ??? I didn't ask for this ??? I don't believe it , leave me alone ... leave me alone ... just leave me alone why can't I speak , why can't I move , if I could move I would tackle you , I would , I , breathe , can't move , GET out of my room , Get away from , can't breath , I can see him , he 's laughing at me , he's speaking in my head , I CAN CONTROL YOU WITHOUT TOUCHING YOU HA HA HA ... THEN ALL hope is gone AND YOU KNOW IT ... THEN he leaves , and you can move and nothing is there and no one believes you , they find you running down the street in your boxers like a madman with a gun , sweating ... you really don't want to know , you really don't ... I just relived an old memory from 1987... what the hell I'm gonna leave it on the post ... I need to take a break guys ... my face is hot , my ears are hot , I, whew ... I'm outa this thread

Ghost rider, I don't know much about shadow people but the other night an investigator said they were pure evil, bad news and no one really knew much about them. I'm not sure if they mentioned the possibility of ET or alien beings, more like satanic entities.

I learned later much later , that these beings are seen when people have OBEs ... I never want to see them again , ever ...

[Mandala]

I never want to see them again ... ever ... shadow people ... ET contact is not what you think it is ... live your life , leave it alone ... ever been in your own bedroom , in the dead dark of night , the world sleeping like zombies and they enter and you get the overwhelming , palm sweating , heartbeat out of the chest , can't move , panic , scared , trauma , cant' breath , can't think , what is that ??? who is that ??? what does he want ??? why is he hear ??? what did I do ??? I didn't ask for this ??? I don't believe it , leave me alone ... leave me alone ... just leave me alone why can't I speak , why can't I move , if I could move I would tackle you , I would , I , breathe , can't move , GET out of my room , Get away from , can't breath , I can see him , he 's laughing at me , he's speaking in my head , I CAN CONTROL YOU WITHOUT TOUCHING YOU HA HA HA ... THEN ALL hope is gone AND YOU KNOW IT ... THEN he leaves , and you can move and nothing is there and no one believes you , they find you running down the street in your boxers like a madman with a gun , sweating ... you really don't want to know , you really don't ... I just relived an old memory from 1987... what the hell I'm gonna leave it on the post ... I need to take a break guys ... my face is hot , my ears are hot , I, whew ... I'm outa this thread

Ghost rider, I don't know much about shadow people but the other night an investigator said they were pure evil, bad news and no one really knew much about them. I'm not sure if they mentioned the possibility of ET or alien beings, more like satanic entities.

I learned later much later , that these beings are seen when people have OBEs ... I never want to see them again , ever ...

Are they looking to take over a body?

[ghostrider]

I never want to see them again ... ever ... shadow people ... ET contact is not what you think it is ... live your life , leave it alone ... ever been in your own bedroom , in the dead dark of night , the world sleeping like zombies and they enter and you get the overwhelming , palm sweating , heartbeat out of the chest , can't move , panic , scared , trauma , cant' breath , can't think , what is that ??? who is that ??? what does he want ??? why is he hear ??? what did I do ??? I didn't ask for this ??? I don't believe it , leave me alone ... leave me alone ... just leave me alone why can't I speak , why can't I move , if I could move I would tackle you , I would , I , breathe , can't move , GET out of my room , Get away from , can't breath , I can see him , he 's laughing at me , he's speaking in my head , I CAN CONTROL YOU WITHOUT TOUCHING YOU HA HA HA ... THEN ALL hope is gone AND YOU KNOW IT ... THEN he leaves , and you can move and nothing is there and no one believes you , they find you running down the street in your boxers like a madman with a gun , sweating ... you really don't want to know , you really don't ... I just relived an old memory from 1987... what the hell I'm gonna leave it on the post ... I need to take a break guys ... my face is hot , my ears are hot , I, whew ... I'm outa this thread

Ghost rider, I don't know much about shadow people but the other night an investigator said they were pure evil, bad news and no one really knew much about them. I'm not sure if they mentioned the possibility of ET or alien beings, more like satanic entities.

I learned later much later , that these beings are seen when people have OBEs ... I never want to see them again , ever ...

Are they looking to take over a body?

their job is fear , they are gatekeepers to keep people from trying OBEs ... it worked pretty good , I didn't try OBE again for twenty years ...