Has Bigfoot Been Spotted At Yellowstone?

[Skywizard]

Tens of thousands of people watch a video from the national park where four upright
creatures appear behind a group of bison.

http://media.skynews.com/media/images/generated/2015/2/6/368725/default/v1/grab-circle-1-762x428.jpg
Has bigfoot finally been spotted?


Four unidentified figures have been captured in a controversial video recorded through a webcam.

Originally posted to YouTube by Mary Greeley back in December, the footage, which was taken from a webcam overlooking the area near the famous geyser 'Old Faithful', failed to gain attention at the time but has picked up momentum more recently after being featured on a number of news sites and media outlets.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRHtI3LkDjw

The video lasts around three-and-a-half minutes and begins by showing a group of buffalo wandering across the snow.

At around the 2:50 mark however four figures emerge from behind the trees in the background and walk towards the left. One emerges in to a clearing while the others remain mostly hidden.

The video, which has gained significant attention this week, is being hailed as evidence that the legendary Bigfoot not only exists but that there's more than one and that they travel in groups.

In all likelihood however the footage probably shows nothing more than a group of tourists taking in the scenery as they head towards the geysers. None of the figures appear particularly anomalous and there is little reason to suggest that they are anything other than ordinary people.

"Bigfoot sightings are not frequent, but it happens," said Yellowstone National Park spokesman Al Nash. "People say a lot of crazy things about Yellowstone all the time and bigfoot is just one of them."



Source: http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/news/277763/bigfoot-filmed-in-yellowstone-national-park



peace...

[seeker/reader]

You need to check out thinkerthunker's analysis and size comparison of this footage. Bison are indeed huge animals, for those who may have never seen them up close and personal, so I think the size comparison is pretty compelling. Especially when considering the "fourth" suspected bigfoot, who is a head taller than the rest.

QRurxAtiLkM

[seeker/reader]

Here is a picture showing how huge a bison is in comparison to a grown man.

https://waywarddogsdotcom.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/bull.jpg

[ghostrider]

there are some who say bigfoots are seen just before big earthquakes ... for what it's worth

[ChristianSky]

Woah!! Thanks for the comparison picture, seeker/ reader!! Puts it into prospective!

[mgray]

Questions. If it's webcam footage, then why would it stop there? It should continue with footage of the beings.
Also why did the webcam shift focus to the right in the middle of video? It should be stationary.

[RMorgan]

There's a big flaw in his analyzes of the video.

He seems to be unaware that, the bigger the photographic lens is, the more it compresses perspective.

By the original video you can say that the photographic equipment uses powerful telephoto lenses, which is the kind of lenses normally used to film things at a distance. Surely this is not a regular amateurish webcam. Probably professional scientific surveillance equipment or maybe even an actual photographic camera, with apparently at least 135 to 160mm lenses judging by the size and distance of the background trees.

Here's an example of the compressed perspective effect:

http://cdn2.mcpactions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/barncomparticle.jpg?0db1bb

Notice how the 160mm lens, which is a very moderate telephoto lens, apparently brings the background scenario much closer to the front, clearly causing things to appear to be bigger.

So, when the analyst cuts the humanoid shape from the OP's video and bring it to the front, comparing its size to the buffalo, he's not taking perspective compression in account, which undermines the very foundations of his analyzes.

Another image to demonstrate the crushed perspective effect:

https://expertphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/focal-length-comparison.jpeg

So, these could very well be regular men wearing thick black coats which would be perfectly normal since it's snowing and apparently very cold. As far as the video goes, it's impossible to achieve another conclusion without sabotaging the logical process. The correct thing to be done was to go the the same location and try to collect more data.

Raf

[loc333]

mgray the explanation i heard was its a web cam for gysers, so thats where the camera goes to next, and i believe the person moving the camera didnt even see the bigfootshttp://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/236x/bd/75/70/bd757033f64614c522f9d8cc5939aec6.jpg

[Ulyse30]

Oui,mais à 01:33,dans le fond du paysage,vers le milieu,2 autres ombrages d'êtres,marchent et se dirigent vers la droite,très difficille à voir,mais j'ai remarqué que sa bouge là aussi,donc 6 êtres en visuelle au total,regarder de près votre écran et vous verrez,c'est étrange,...?!!?

J'invite les gens à observer partout,peut-être il y a d'autres êtres ailleurs que nous n'avons pas remarqué,...??

[Sunny-side-up]

Vid as posted by seeker/reader
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRurxAtiLkM
At vid point 2:25 a comparison of size is made by cutting out the Humanoid figger and placing it next to a Buffalo

well! why not do it the other way around and so get a nearer comparison and not have to stretch any part of the images!

So I take one Buffalo that is as far back in the scene as possible, notice to the right on the horizontal line is the clearing where the Humanoids show!
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/Alanshots/Big1.jpg

Then a pic showing the Humanoid
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/Alanshots/Big2_2.jpg

then transfer it over next to the Humanoid.
http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/Alanshots/Big%201%202.jpg

But even this is not a total size comparison because the only image of a Buffalo is still not as far back as the Humanoid figger, so the Humanoid is actually still bigger that my comparison composite. Nearly twice as tall as that Buffalo!

Interesting ha!

[seeker/reader]

There's a big flaw in his analyzes of the video.

He seems to be unaware that, the bigger the photographic lens is, the more it compresses perspective.

By the original video you can say that the photographic equipment uses powerful telephoto lenses, which is the kind of lenses normally used to film things at a distance. Surely this is not a regular amateurish webcam. Probably professional scientific surveillance equipment or maybe even an actual photographic camera, with apparently at least 135 to 160mm lenses judging by the size and distance of the background trees.

Here's an example of the compressed perspective effect:

http://cdn2.mcpactions.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/barncomparticle.jpg?0db1bb

Notice how the 160mm lens, which is a very moderate telephoto lens, apparently brings the background scenario much closer to the front, clearly causing things to appear to be bigger.

So, when the analyst cuts the humanoid shape from the OP's video and bring it to the front, comparing its size to the buffalo, he's not taking perspective compression in account, which undermines the very foundations of his analyzes.

Another image to demonstrate the crushed perspective effect:

https://expertphotography.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/focal-length-comparison.jpeg

So, these could very well be regular men wearing thick black coats which would be perfectly normal since it's snowing and apparently very cold. As far as the video goes, it's impossible to achieve another conclusion without sabotaging the logical process. The correct thing to be done was to go the the same location and try to collect more data.

Raf

Interesting. However would this crushed perspective ever make the object appear larger than it actually is? I don't think this would be possible? For example the second can, which is the same physical height as the first can, may appear larger than it did with a smaller lens however it never appears larger than the first can. So in effect it would either appear to be "almost" full size or smaller than it actually is, depending on the lens length. It would never appear larger than it actually is while in the context of other objects.

Taking that into consideration, the humanoid is still a head taller than the humps on all the bison. That would still make quite a large individual and then considering the fourth "humanoid" that is a head taller then the rest, it would be 2 heads taller than all the humps on the bison.

[Joe Sustaire]

Very interesting analysis Sunny-side-up!

[RMorgan]

Interesting. However would this crushed perspective ever make the object appear larger than it actually is? I don't think this would be possible? For example the second can, which is the same physical height as the first can, may appear larger than it did with a smaller lens however it never appears larger than the first can. So in effect it would either appear to be "almost" full size or smaller than it actually is, depending on the lens length. It would never appear larger than it actually is while in the context of other objects.

Taking that into consideration, the humanoid is still a head taller than the humps on all the bison. That would still make quite a large individual and then considering the fourth "humanoid" that is a head taller then the rest, it would be 2 heads taller than all the humps on the bison.

Larger/Bigger than it really is, no. Larger/Bigger in relation to something else closer to the lens, yes.

According to this (http://animals.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/american-bison/), an adult American Bison can measure from 1,5 to 2 meters of height.

So, since we actually don't know the size of those Bison, the size of an average man, let's say 1,70 to 1,85m, would be perfectly compatible, taking perspective compression in account.

Plus, after a quick research I could see that a lot of people actually go there as tourists to actually watch wild life, like Bison. Those men could very well be tourists in heavy winter coats.

Just my two cents.

[Ulyse30]

Yes,but at 01:33,in the bottom of the landscape,towards the middle,two(2) other shades of beings,walk and head to the right,very difficult thing to do,but i noticed that his move there too,so six(6) visual beings in total,look closely at your screen and you will see,it is strange,...!?!?

I invite people to observe everywhere,maybe are other things,also we have not noticed,...??

[Sunny-side-up]

Yes,but at 01:33,in the bottom of the landscape,towards the middle,two(2) other shades of beings,walk and head to the right,very difficult thing to do,but i noticed that his move there too,so six(6) visual beings in total,look closely at your screen and you will see,it is strange,...!?!?

I invite people to observe everywhere,maybe are other things,also we have not noticed,...??

Can't find your other beings Ulyse30 ?
Can you do a screen grab and post it here!

[Ulyse30]

They come out at the top of the fog landscape in the backgroud watching the trees,the bottom in the middle of the contryside,where there is fog,they come out of there,to (2) black shadows walk standing,1:33 to 1:46 approximately,...!?!?

[Sunny-side-up]

As pointed out by Ulyse30,Well spotted Eagle-Eye ;)

Wath the origonal Vid but pay attention to the area hilighted by my red line as first noticed by Ulyse30

http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z413/Alanshots/Big%204.jpg

[RMorgan]

As pointed out by Ulyse30,Well spotted Eagle-Eye ;)

Wath the origonal Vid but pay attention to the area hilighted by my red line as first noticed by Ulyse30



Yep. Now I see them.

Good catch, Ulyse30! I wouldn't ever have observed that. :)

Couldn't they be just regular folks, though?

[Sunny-side-up]

As pointed out by Ulyse30,Well spotted Eagle-Eye ;)

Watch the original Vid but pay attention to the area highlighted by my red line as first noticed by Ulyse30



Yep. Now I see them.

Good catch, Ulyse30! I wouldn't ever have observed that. :)

Couldn't they be just regular folks, though?

They still look to large/tall to be regular people, given the fact that they are that extra distance away!

They do seem to coincide with the Humanoids as well, doing a round trip, mainly along the tree lines.

Wish I was near there, I would defiantly go and explore those two areas!

I like to think this is a real photographic capture of our mysterious friends

[CurEus]

Or 6 people hanging out at a geyser in monkey costumes Christmas Day...The uploader references another video of Bigfoot in the same area. I will attach it below the first video.

With the costs of technology coming down dramatically we can soon expect hunting and forest cameras to go online soon and citizen investigators to lead the way as opposed to cameras exclusively controlled by government agencies...Ideally I;d like to get a few on the Moon...

I have no real skills or training in video so I cannot determine if these videos are CGI, fake or indeed real.

Youtube description from uploader Bahinko ( I have edited for spacing/paragrahhs/readability not for content or grammar)

Bigfoot family of six captured on video on Xmas day at Yellowstone? Watch it til the end and see something very unusual that was captured off of Old Faithful's live cam on Christmas day 2016. It all began during a lull in the geyser's eruption cycle when the Yellowstone cam was turned to view another geyser erupting far away. As I watch my monitors I noticed that the location looked familiar and that's because of the "Bigfoot vs Buffalo" video that was filmed by Mary Greeley in the same general area.

Then I noticed something moving around, grabbed my cell phone and started filming what appeared to be two individuals, dressed in black, sitting down in the snow. Soon a third figure appeared, then a forth, and finally two more joined the group and all dressed in black. The four new arrivals stood shoulder to shoulder all facing the same direction towards the Yellowstone webcam while the other two remained sitting in the snow. The webcam operator suddenly zoomed out and swung their camera back on Old Faithful.

I think the last four are the same guys from the "Bigfoot vs Buffalo" vid. My biggest fear is that because of the poor quality nobody will watch it or think it could be important. Sure the video is awful and blurry but look at it a couple of times and you realize it is still good enough to make out what is happening. You can see them interacting with each other using hand gestures pointing out things in the distance and even patting one another on the back. My 10 year old nephew pointed out something I had missed. The last bigfoot to appear in both Mary Greeley's video and my video is the biggest one. Also the first video implied they were possibly hunting buffalo but the direction in which they're heading leads to where I filmed them. In other words that is where they live!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV0qj7lTTOU



The uploader refers to the video below in his description

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRurxAtiLkM

[sheme]

They could be leaving the area because of the ground activity, they are in touch with nature, they must be far more sensitive than we are.

[Cardillac]

Big Foot/Sasquatch do not wear clothing (when/where did they learn to sew/knit?); they have very thick fur if my read sources are correct-

read anthropologist Lloyd Pye's book "Everything You Know is Wrong"-

these hominoids have a gait/way of moving that is far superior to our human way of moving; and the beings in this video looked very human to me- not exactly hominoid-

be well all-

Larry

[Bill Ryan]

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Here's the source Yellowstone cam video for that day and time. Go to about 2:22:00, and you can see [whatever they are] off to the far left of the screen.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMh9fA7a5G0

[Matthew]

At 2:26:37 there's a really quick pan to the left and we get a shot of the area with a scattering of people which I found useful for perspective
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Update 19/1/17
The image is bigger than it looks, click on the image to zoom in :D

[onawah]

If there were people that close by, it seems very doubtful those could have been Sasquatch, since they avoid humans as much as possible.
In any case, I believe they are vegetarian, aren't they, so they wouldn't have been hunting bison if they were actually there.

[CurEus]

The second video in the OP purports to show Bigfoots hunting antelope. I have no idea what their diet would be if vegan. Bark and Grass? Primates eat copious amounts of vegetation. From an energy perspective meat seems more likely. One well thrown rock would take almost anything down if you weigh 400lbs! At their size they'd probably need to hibernate like bears if vegetarian but then again moose don't hibernate and they're quite large.

This video seems the most compelling I've seen as it is literally in the middle of nowhere.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYz9L_jl-0Q