Hidden in plain sight...

[Teakai]

This is the most interesting thing I've watched in a long while.

Part 1:

http://www.youtube.com/user/secretmysterybusted#p/u/10/JFMYCULm6-U

There are 11 parts to it and I would definitely recommend having a watch. Try not to be put off in regard to the 'religiousness' of it because what the guy reveals is truly fascinating.

Amongst other things he shows the symbology within an ancient Sumerian engraving and how it is relevant to what is happening today.

Also - I would just like to point out that the origin of the word Christ is Kryst or Krystos meaning the soul within. I can't remember where I came across that - but I personally prefer this meaning, rather than the Christian version of seeing Christ as a man.

I would also like to add that the picture of the reptillian within Ahkenaton looks very similar to the reptillian part of our brain and I wondered if this was equivalent to our ego, which apparently arises in the primitive mind rather than the frontal lobes.

Anyway, hope you enjoy it and thanks to Witchy1 for leading me in that direction.
:)

[witchy1]

your welcome - its pretty freaky. That pope garb is a definate

(did you fold any money?)
W

[Teakai]

your welcome - its pretty freaky. That pope garb is a definate

(did you fold any money?)
W

I live in Australia, Witchy.

Did you watch all the videos? Now I want to get a copy of that National Geographic 2000 (or was it 2001?)

[witchy1]

Hiya, well, so you are.....why did I think you were in the states?????? Another mature moment perhaps

Yes I did watch the lot. I know he comes across a bit left of centre, but his info is good imho - his points are just as valid as some others I have read.

[JoeNashville]

Thanks for the post I look forward to watching it!

[Teakai]

Thanks for the post I look forward to watching it!

You're welcome, Joe.
He does take a while to make his points, but it is very interesting - I am into that sort of stuff, though.
:)

[Ahkenaten]

OK here's my take on this series of videos.............an apparently well-intended person who literally takes the bible as the spoken word of god uses the Book of Isiah of the old testament as a prism upon which to view various information, for the purposes of corroborating the truth of passages in the book of Isiah..................

*various images emerge from folding US currency.............one alternate non-biblical explanation of this could be that the truth is imprinted in the matrix and thus emerges in various forms at various levels in a manner that Jungians would describe as the collective unconscious expressing itself in bizarre synchronistic "coincidences"

*The whole business of seeing reptilians in a particular hieroglyph of Ahkenaten.................this is known in psychology as PROJECTION, a technique used with the Rorsach, as just one example, to learn about the inner workings of an individual's mind. In other words this particular projection tells more about the person doing the projecting that it does about the field being projected upon.

*Some have posited that the various gods alluded to in the Old Testament of the Bible are actually a pastiche of a number of gods worshipped in the old times and that (gasp!) and that some of those now thought of as gods were actually demonic beings. Remember that from what we have been able to learn about the 18th. Dynasty, during which Ahkenaten ruled, Ahkenaten was somewhat of an anomaly in that he endeavored to "reform" the spiritual practices of the time, returning to the more form of worship of the Sun Disk, the Aten. This created quite a stir amongst the entrenched but now displaced priesthood who for generations had occupied a secure place in Egyptian society, presiding over rituals and ceremonies celebrating a pantheon of gods. It would appear it also created an uproar in Egyptian society whose calendar was punctuated with the various ceremonies and celebrations.................

Some have suggested that this was the "heresy" of which Ahkenaten was guilty, that of uprooting and casting out the established priesthood who also, not incidentally, posed a threat to his rule.

So where I am headed is this ----------- if the current paradigm represents more of the same old, same old - that is the descendents of the same forces that ruled much of ancient Egypt through the institutions of the priesthood for thousands of years, some of whom may very well have carried the secrets of the pyramids and their creators in their secret brotherhoods - would not these very priests and their institutions and myriad desert gods or djins, be those who lurk to this day in the Middle East?

Could it not be that in fact the historic figure of Ahkenaten represents a break with that lineage and a rare challenge to the power and authority of this particular line?

Could it not be that is why now a self-proclaimed prophet with access to the word of god seeks to further defile the memory of Ahenaten, because he himself is speaking for a lineage of djins with evil intentions for humans, rather than god?

Could it not be that this man, well-intended as he may be, is actually in the service of Evil?

And then there is the matter of his twitches etc. It is a little unusual and could be an indication of lying.

AHKENATEN represented such a threat to someone or something that radical attempts were made to completely expunge any memory or vestige of his existence including removing his name from the official list of kings.

One has to ask - why would anyone go to that extent to try to erase his memory from recorded history? I say follow the money and power - because he dared challenge the entrenched priesthood, and moreover their many "gods" and because he posited something very radical for the time, that there is One God.

Just a thought.

[kudzy]

I'm not sure if I heard him correctly but at 8:05 of part 1 he states:
"... and the Lord let me know the pyramids are your enemy and the Arabs are your enemy"

sorry but that's where I tune out
the Arabs are not my enemy

[Ahkenaten]

kudzy exactly my point - this guy is in my opinion, in the employ of certain factions whether he realizes it or not that seek in a myriad of venues in a myriad of ways to push history in a certain direction - i.e. perpetuate a particular kind of struggle always framing certain people as evil and that is the same old familiar rationalization for killing millions off................that "god" has identified them as the "enemy" who must at all costs be expunged. Same old same old I say. Nothing new in this message.

[Lost Soul]

I saw the entire video. Darn it's late. Anyhow, he makes some interesting points but for those here who believe that Obama is a light worker, don't watch it.

[Teakai]

I did mention that you needed to not get caught up on the 'religiousness' of it. You lose the cool parts if you focus on that.

That last Obama bit was pretty loose - but all the other symbolic stuff was really cool - maybe you just have to be into symbolsim to enjoy it.

[perfectresonance]

Sigh. More fear porn. He seems genuine, so I feel pain in my heart for this man. This is so US- and Christian-centric, you'd think the rest of the world and the people in it don't exist or aren't worth a prophesy or two.

[Teakai]

Sigh. More fear porn. He seems genuine, so I feel pain in my heart for this man. This is so US- and Christian-centric, you'd think the rest of the world and the people in it don't exist or aren't worth a prophesy or two.

Maybe the fear porn's in the mind of the beholder?

I just found the symbology and historical references really interesting.

I'm thinking I'm the only one who did, though.

[RedeZra]

Also - I would just like to point out that the origin of the word Christ is Kryst or Krystos meaning the soul within. I can't remember where I came across that - but I personally prefer this meaning, rather than the Christian version of seeing Christ as a man.


the Christian version sees Jesus Christ as God

cause Jesus is awake n aware within the Great Soul which is God

while Man is still sleeping unaware of this great destiny which he is also supposed to reach


so Jesus Christ is a living guide to yourselves


as long as you delude yourselves as being awake

you will keep on dreaming

til infinity


accept that you are asleep

and then try to wake ; )

[Teakai]

the Christian version sees Jesus Christ as God

cause Jesus is awake n aware within the Great Soul which is God

while Man is still sleeping unaware of this great destiny which he is also supposed to reach


so Jesus Christ is a living guide to yourselves


as long as you delude yourselves as being awake

you will keep on dreaming

til infinity


accept that you are asleep

and then try to wake ; )

Hi RedeZra,
it's been my experience that most, if not all Christians that I have met see Jesus as God and as their saviour simply by a mere belief that Jesus died for our sins and that's what Paul and the church said was required.

Jesus clearly says that we must do certain things to attain salvation/enlightenment. We must be of the state that we are living from our own Kryst = soul.

The church did a job on Christians - it told them that they just have to obey their church rules and believe unquestioningly and do as they were told and they'd die and go to heaven or they'd go to purgatory or they'd go to hell.
The church also made the trinity.

It's my opinion at this time that so long as one identifies themselves as a religious label, be it Chrsitian or a Muslim or Jew - they are still sleeping. Because part of being awake is being aware that there is no seperation.

[RedeZra]

Jesus clearly says that we must do certain things to attain salvation/enlightenment. We must be of the state that we are living from our own Kryst = soul.


yes you must be moral

meaning you must know the difference between right n wrong

and more so

choose to do what is right


it's no hocus pocus


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Christians have a true Champion in Christ

the Church is not infallible and neither are Christians

but Christ is perfect n beyond reproach

[truthseekerdan]

but Christ is perfect n beyond reproach

Yes, because 'Christ is our true essence', and not this physical body that IT inhabits.

[RedeZra]

Yes, because 'Christ is our true essence', and not this physical body that IT inhabits.

yes you got it ; )

Christ is the Great Kryst or Soul within everything

[Teakai]

yes you must be moral

meaning you must know the difference between right n wrong

and more so

choose to do what is right


it's no hocus pocus


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Christians have a true Champion in Christ

the Church is not infallible and neither are Christians

but Christ is perfect n beyond reproach

I don't think so - because morality is subjective. What is moral in one culture is frowned upon in another.
Right and wrong is subjective depending on one's personal perspective of a situation. Right and wrong is a judgment of ego.

To me it's more like: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.

And ego cannot do that - because ego has judgements and expectations in order to give and receive what they consider to be love.

And this isn't the dominion of the Christian religion - it is the egoless state required to attain knowledge of your authentic self.
Jesus was the messenger - telling you that you are your own saviour.

[Beren]

yes you got it ; )

Christ is the Great Kryst or Soul within everything


Just think of the term "Christ" . It`s not a last name. It wasn`t Yeshua`s last name too.
he was Messiah or by Greek- Christ.
Meaning a deliverer. Holy.

So if we want to be as him we must BE AS HIM. Holy and deliverers.
Just casually carrying the name christian (any of the denomination) isn`t meaning a thing if you are not like him.

Say for example someone would call him self Catholic. Some Ortodox, some Luteran,some Aventist,some Protestant,some Jehovah`s witness,...
but those are just brand names, corporation names, company names, club names...ets.

You are either THE Christian in the true meaning of the word or not.
If you label yourself as ,say,protestant or catholic - then you`re that. A member of that exclusive group of people.
But not a Christian despite all that you claim and knowledge that you posses and all that you do. Wherever you state you belong - you belong there.

Christ came to open minds and hearts for people can see whom they are- sons & daughters of Almighty. Not Jews, not Greeks, not Arabs,not Americans,not Russians, not Italians,Chinese...not Catholics,Mormons,Lutherans,Witnesses,Protestants,Greek orthodox... SONS & DAUGHTERS of Almighty!

In Creator there is no division. But among people it does.
We need to over come our need of separation from the Creator since we face our own private hell, perfectly created by us , for our own lives and suits.

There is no need for that, and Jesus came to explain that and life us all up. No put us all down in the chains of religions. As Jews were doing that to themselves. And all others on the face of the Earth.

But as the law of free will exist, it was allowed to people to choose. And people chose to pollute Jesus`s words and create abomination out of his teachings. We created beasts that are eating us alive today.

So that`s why I chose for my self a living Christ . And being like him. It`s always hard in the beginning but it`s eternally blissful!

[Teakai]

yes you got it ; )

Christ is the Great Kryst or Soul within everything

But...didn't I say that?

I'm confused - are we agreeing or disagreeing?

Either is fine, only I thought you said that Christ was a man called Jesus - or at least that Chrsitians did.
Are you coming from a Christian perspective or are you just saying how Chrsitians view what Christ is?

:)

[truthseekerdan]

yes you got it ; )

Christ is the Great Kryst or Soul within everything

This video summarize it pretty well outside religious boundaries, my friend...:love:


http://vimeo.com/10695489

[Teakai]

Yep, that's what I'm talking about, Dan.

You can't put that in a box whack on a label and say it's yours and no one elses.
It impossible to do so, because by doing it it is no longer the truth.
There is only the truth and it has no borders, no lables.
:)

[RedeZra]

I don't think so - because morality is subjective. What is moral in one culture is frowned upon in another.

Right and wrong is subjective depending on one's personal perspective of a situation. Right and wrong is a judgment of ego.


don't you know that you express love the most when you adhere to morality ??


maybe you don't know what I mean with morality


it means no killing no stealing no lying no cheating etc etc

[Teakai]

don't you know that you express love the most when you adhere to morality ??

But doesn't that depend on what one's idea of morality is?

[RedeZra]

But doesn't that depend on what one's idea of morality is?

nope that's just your idea

morality is eternal like love n truth

[Teakai]

nope that's just your idea

morality is eternal like love n truth

What's just my idea? I asked a question.

For instance -
Royalty, particularly ancient royalty - would interbeed with their offspring to keep pure bloodlines. Immoral or moral?

Eating meat - moral or immoral?

Punishing people for breaking the laws of god - moral or immoral?

Sex before marriage - moral or immoral?

Arranged marriages - moral or immoral.

Whatever opinion you may have about them - other people, depending on their perspective, will have a different opinion about them.

Love does not need to make that judgment - it in itself acts as love - and as such cannot act as anything but love.
Morality is a judgment placed upon an action and so cannot be not love.

That's the way I view it based on how I define the meaning of the word morality - maybe we view the word morality in a different way.

[RedeZra]

What's just my idea? I asked a question.


the idea that morality is subjective is just that - an idea


this mindset Teakai - that nothing is right n nothing is wrong

is just what makes us tolerate the wrong n ignore the right

and that's why the world is as it is


what makes you think a culture is in the know about right n wrong

when the whole world doesn't seem to know


when a culture picks up a habit it does not automatically make it right

like the sacrificing Aztec for instance


we have had teachers that taught us morality

which is the difference between right n wrong

and we didn't like that much


there are forces at work in the world which are against the eternal values of love truth n morality

they are out to corrupt us personally n culturally so as to make us spiritual bankrupt - or so it seems

[witchy1]

Mind if I wade in - Morals are simply a set of values, ethics and beliefs that we all have, and they vary widely. Therefore it could loosly be described as a conscience which suggests where the right/wrong thing comes in when compare to rules or law.

Morality cannot be an idea. What is right/wrong is determined by our morals (internal) and of course the written law or set of rules that a particular society responds to. (external)

No-one can provide another person with morals. It comes with the package and is entirely individual. It comes from within.

It is quite different that what a culture may determine to be its values or beliefs or laws and rules (or norms)

This is my understanding - Or have I missed the point altogether?

[truthseekerdan]

As long as you are completely trapped in your form identity (mind-body), there can be no love. Therefore one will experience separation, and through the 'ego-mind set' will think and see things dualistically -- like black & white, good & evil, values, morality, religion, etc. And this is actually what makes us spiritually bankrupt as RedeZra mentioned above.

Our task is not to identify with form only (mind-body connection), but find a portal through which love can enter (heart-mind connection). Unconditional Love is not dualistic, and that is our God essence within.
Hope this makes sense, at least for some...

[Teakai]

the idea that morality is subjective is just that - an idea


this mindset Teakai - that nothing is right n nothing is wrong

is just what makes us tolerate the wrong n ignore the right

and that's why the world is as it iswhat makes you think a culture is in the know about right n wrong

when the whole world doesn't seem to know


when a culture picks up a habit it does not automatically make it right

like the sacrificing Aztec for instance


we have had teachers that taught us morality

which is the difference between right n wrong

and we didn't like that much


there are forces at work in the world which are against the eternal values of love truth n morality

they are out to corrupt us personally n culturally so as to make us spiritual bankrupt - or so it seems

RedeZra, it's my opinion that the world is as it is today because we judge others by our own particular ideas of what is right and what is not - thinking our idea of right is right and everything that is not right is, by default, wrong.

We may even take it upon our selves to force others to agree with our version of right - but as you asked - who says we are right?
Maybe we are not right in our thinking.
What is to tell us we are right?


Acting from a source of love we would not, for our own ends, debase ourselves or another living being- so any issue of morality wouldn't come into it - and the world would be a hugely different place.

Love trumps morals anyday . They’re not even in the same game.
:)

[Teakai]

Mind if I wade in - Morals are simply a set of values, ethics and beliefs that we all have, and they vary widely. Therefore it could loosly be described as a conscience which suggests where the right/wrong thing comes in when compare to rules or law.

Morality cannot be an idea. What is right/wrong is determined by our morals (internal) and of course the written law or set of rules that a particular society responds to. (external)

No-one can provide another person with morals. It comes with the package and is entirely individual. It comes from within.

It is quite different that what a culture may determine to be its values or beliefs or laws and rules (or norms)

This is my understanding - Or have I missed the point altogether?

I dunno, Witchy.
I imagine the Catholics dunking the Pagans to save their souls were feeling pretty moral and righteous.
But I bet the pagans wouldn't have agreed.

There's lots of examples where one may feel completely moral in their behaviour, and yet the behaviour is perfectly without love for their fellow man.

[RedeZra]

No-one can provide another person with morals. It comes with the package and is entirely individual. It comes from within.



if there is no right and wrong

then there is no merit and no mistakes


everything is convenience and politics

and survival of the fittest


if there is no right and wrong


then there is only struggle

and a dash of love

[RedeZra]

RedeZra, it's my opinion that the world is as it is today because we judge others by our own particular ideas of what is right and what is not - thinking our idea of right is right and everything that is not right is, by default, wrong.


so you don't think there are dark forces out to control n collect the world ?

[truthseekerdan]

so you don't think there are dark forces out to control n collect the world ?

Thinking is one perspective, but knowing the 'game insights' and how it plays out is another...:wink:

[RedeZra]

Thinking is one perspective, but knowing the 'game insights' and how it plays out is another...:wink:

hehe I see you got the tin foil hat on bro ; )


do you know how it goes ?

this game

who wins ?

[Teakai]

so you don't think there are dark forces out to control n collect the world ?

If there are they arise from ego not love. And you can give ego all the rules on morality you want and ego will decide whether or not ego wants to follow them.

Morals are rules for the ego to follow to maintain a certain kind of soceity.

Love does not need a guidebook.

[truthseekerdan]

hehe I see you got the tin foil hat on bro ; )



That represents the sheeple among us. :lol:

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who wins ?

Love is the greatest. :love:

[RedeZra]

If there are they arise from ego not love. And you can give ego all the rules on morality you want and ego will decide whether or not ego wants to follow them.

Morals are rules for the ego to follow to maintain a certain kind of soceity.

Love does not need a guidebook.

ego is not so big on morals

if anything it likes to bend n break them


but I hear you...

you are so full of love that you can't go wrong

very well then

keep it up ; )

[Teakai]

ego is not so big on morals

if anything it likes to bend n break them


but I hear you...

you are so full of love that you can't go wrong

very well then

keep it up ; )

LOL - well, I didn't actually say that - I thought the conversation was in general, but you seem to be taking it personally.

You sound upset to consider that I might be full of love.
Why would that bother you?

[nomadguy]

an accidental search I happened across today ~
was doing a little research about ancient india, came across "the good king" - Yudhisthira then on Google I accidentally searched > scholar - wtf check this out,

Google page one Scholarly Articles search results: Yudhisthira -

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http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=2000000000&q=Yudhisthira

[Teakai]

Ummmmmm, is this you're way of telling us we're off topic, nomadguy - or am I missing something?

:suspicious:

[witchy1]

I dunno, Witchy.
I imagine the Catholics dunking the Pagans to save their souls were feeling pretty moral and righteous.
But I bet the pagans wouldn't have agreed.

There's lots of examples where one may feel completely moral in their behaviour, and yet the behaviour is perfectly without love for their fellow man.

Ow, I agree T - dont think my explanation was great. I think there might be confusion about how we interpret morals. (as opposed to a set of beliefs or values or simply conforming to society norms) my understanding is they provide the internal motivation.
A person can be immoral, but there is no similar word to describe values. Do people feel moral in their behaviour or justified (due to values or ethics.)

I think they were feeling very righteous and moraly very just in their actions, but as you say without love for any person.

Wasnt if Freud who said that moral development came out of the ego? Racking my brain back to nursing training (psych 101)
I think I'll bow out gracefully now :decision:

[RedeZra]

You sound upset to consider that I might be full of love.
Why would that bother you?

no I'm not upset if your heart is full of love


I'm only a little upset that you misread me dear Teakai ; )

[Teakai]

no I'm not upset if your heart is full of love


I'm only a little upset that you misread me dear Teakai ; )

Upset at me or at yourself?
I only responded to what you wrote. What part in particular do you think I misread?

[Teakai]

Ow, I agree T - dont think my explanation was great. I think there might be confusion about how we interpret morals. (as opposed to a set of beliefs or values or simply conforming to society norms) my understanding is they provide the internal motivation.
A person can be immoral, but there is no similar word to describe values. Do people feel moral in their behaviour or justified (due to values or ethics.)

I think they were feeling very righteous and moraly very just in their actions, but as you say without love for any person.

Wasnt if Freud who said that moral development came out of the ego? Racking my brain back to nursing training (psych 101)
I think I'll bow out gracefully now :decision:

Oh no - don't bow out. I didn't pick pagans because you're Witchy - they're just the first really good example that popped into my mind. And it did start of being about religion in a way.

Freud was probably right - but I'm of the opinion that all psychology is a study of ego.

I think I might come across as rather opinionated, but, on the bright side, my opinion is very easily changed with good reason :)

[witchy1]

:laugh: lol, no didnt even think of that... just know when Im in over my head - cant speak with any real authority on this subject.....just butted in for something to say really.

Psych is all fluffy nonsense for the most part, creates co -dependences. Dont know if I ever met a person cured of their psychiatric disorder by one actually! They simply resort to drugs. They do have a place for the classic disorders (in DSMV IV) MPD's, trauma/abuse etc.

No no- you certainly dont come over as being opinionated. I enjoy your posts they are well reasoned and researched. Like yourself I also like to opine on the odd topic of interest (perhaps its being antipodean) and am happy (ish) to be pointed in the right direction if Ive veered of track - hahaha.

W

[witchy1]

dont suppose you're a Taurus???

[Teakai]

dont suppose you're a Taurus???

No, but according to astrology my sign makes a good match with Taurus.

:)

[Teakai]

:laugh: lol, no didnt even think of that... just know when Im in over my head - cant speak with any real authority on this subject.....just butted in for something to say really.
Psych is all fluffy nonsense for the most part, creates co -dependences. Dont know if I ever met a person cured of their psychiatric disorder by one actually! They simply resort to drugs. They do have a place for the classic disorders (in DSMV IV) MPD's, trauma/abuse etc.

No no- you certainly dont come over as being opinionated. I enjoy your posts they are well reasoned and researched. Like yourself I also like to opine on the odd topic of interest (perhaps its being antipodean) and am happy (ish) to be pointed in the right direction if Ive veered of track - hahaha.

W

Well, me either - I pretty much just make it up as I go along - whatever's mooshed itself together in my head at that particular time and sounds about right. Shhhh, don't tell anyone though, some may not have guessed.

My opinion is pretty fluid. Too much new and incoming information to form a definite opinion about anything, methinks.
Hell, I'm even considering the possibility of reptillians.

Saw a video the other day about psychiatry - psychiatrists were saying how it was all a load of rubbish, and they made pretty much all of it up.
Have you seen it?
It was posted here, but I don't recall the thread. Probably shouldn't put that in any of your exam answers, though :)

[witchy1]

AhHa! Oh, that may have been a bit of a personal question, sorry T. (However thats maybe why I resonate with your posts)

[Teakai]

AhHa! Oh, that may have been a bit of a personal question, sorry T. (However thats maybe why I resonate with your posts)

Ah witchy, bless ya - I don't care about personal. I just didn't want to ruin your fun. (Projecting here - I quite enjoy guessing people's astrological signs)

I was born under the sign of scorpio. How about you? I'm guessing pisces. Sometimes I'm quite good at picking them but it might be too early to have gotten a proper vibe from you.

[Victor laszlo]

I was not raised Catholic but all I need to do is take one look at Pope Benedict's face to see that he has caused great suffering. He's one scary-looking dude. And as far as BHO goes - he's a walking talking prevarication. It's hard for me to believe how many millions of people can be duped by him.

This video presentation is well-intentioned but too much of a stretch. Jonathan attempts to push this hieroglyph through the cheesecloth of his Christian belief system and it just doesn't cut it.

[RedeZra]

Upset at me or at yourself?
I only responded to what you wrote. What part in particular do you think I misread?

I'm not upset or bothered if your heart is full of love


there is a lack of love in the world so it is most cherished and welcome


still there are many not in touch with this love and inner light of guidance

so for them it's best to practise spiritual values like morality

so the stream of light n love might flow freely within their hearts too


doing what is good n right is the road to peace love n joy ; )

[Teakai]

I'm not upset or bothered if your heart is full of lovethere is a lack of love in the world so it is most cherished and welcome


still there are many not in touch with this love and inner light of guidance

so for them it's best to practise spiritual values like morality

so the stream of light n love might flow freely within their hearts too


doing what is good n right is the road to peace love n joy ; )

So you said, RedeZra.
You said you were upset because I'd misread you - I asked where you think I'd misread you.

[Teakai]

I was not raised Catholic but all I need to do is take one look at Pope Benedict's face to see that he has caused great suffering. He's one scary-looking dude. And as far as BHO goes - he's a walking talking prevarication. It's hard for me to believe how many millions of people can be duped by him.

This video presentation is well-intentioned but too much of a stretch. Jonathan attempts to push this hieroglyph through the cheesecloth of his Christian belief system and it just doesn't cut it.

Hi Victor, I guess every Pope, or Bishop, or high ranking authority would know the truth and history of the Christian religion - that would make them all dishonest.

Be good, follow the rules then you die and go to heaven forever. Sin and it's an eternity of hell , sin lightly and your relatives can buy your soul out of purgatory.
There is no reincarnation.

They're perpetuating a complete lie - and they know it. The only holy thing there is the story they spin us.
IMO.
I have a dabbling interest in religion, historically - the symbolism and the fact that Christianity is built upon a much older system and that symbology is found hidden throughout our world today is something I find extremely interesting.
Hidden messages that perhaps only our subconscious notices - I wonder if we recall and recognise them at a deeper level from another earth time.

Of course, it's a terrible deception - but it's a really fascinating terrible deception.
:)

[witchy1]

I was born under the sign of scorpio. How about you? I'm guessing pisces. Sometimes I'm quite good at picking them but it might be too early to have gotten a proper vibe from you

Bog standard Taurean. With all those -ve traits and all those wonderful +ve ones.

[Teakai]

Bog standard Taurean. With all those -ve traits and all those wonderful +ve ones.

Aw ma-a-a--an, I was going to guess that next. Really - but only because you asked me if I was Taurean. Not because I'm psychic or anything.
:)

Scorpios don't have any negative traits - that's just a vicious rumour going round.
:lol:

[RedeZra]

So you said, RedeZra.
You said you were upset because I'd misread you - I asked where you think I'd misread you.

you misread me if you think I am upset with your loving heart

[nomadguy]

Oh ya know, I was trying to bring up the idea of what is REALLY hidden in plain sight. you are not off topic, this one is broad

[Teakai]

you misread me if you think I am upset with your loving heart

Aaaaarrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! :drama:

You told me you're not upset with me having a loving heart. OK

You said you were upset because I misread you. OK

I asking where it was that you think I misread you.

(That you keep focusing on my loving heart makes me think it's about me having a loving heart, though :) :suspicious: )

[ExHaLaTiON]

I think you guys are off topic....

[Teakai]

I think you guys are off topic....

I think you're totally right, ExHaLaTiON. I think we have been for a while.

[Teakai]

Oh ya know, I was trying to bring up the idea of what is REALLY hidden in plain sight. you are not off topic, this one is broad

Can you explain a bit more, Nomadguy? - I read through what you posted on the board (the thought crossed my mind that it was a form of revenge for you having to read through all the off topic stuff :) )
Do we need to look at the link to get a better idea because I didn't understand any of it.

Maybe you could just sum it up a little bit?

[RedeZra]

Aaaaarrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!! :drama:

You told me you're not upset with me having a loving heart. OK

You said you were upset because I misread you. OK

I asking where it was that you think I misread you.



lol lemme pick out my teaspoon then


I wrote...


but I hear you...

you are so full of love that you can't go wrong

very well then

keep it up ; )


then you wrote...


You sound upset to consider that I might be full of love.
Why would that bother you?


then for the last posts I have typed that I am not upset


you just misread me

when you wrote

that I sound upset lol

[Teakai]

no I'm not upset if your heart is full of love


I'm only a little upset that you misread me dear Teakai ; )


Hello?

Where do falsehoods rate on the moral scale? :nono:

[RedeZra]

Hello?

Where do falsehoods rate on the moral scale? :nono:


hehe I give up

[Teakai]

hehe I give up

Jolly good.

On the bright side - you trying to hide a gert big dirty lie in plain sight actually makes our posts on topic.
:high5: :lol:

[RedeZra]

On the bright side - you trying to hide a gert big dirty lie in plain sight actually makes our posts on topic.
:high5: :lol:

no no you just don't get it

so what

let's move on

[Lefty Dave]

Teakai,
[Also - I would just like to point out that the origin of the word Christ is Kryst or Krystos meaning the soul within. I can't remember where I came across that - but I personally prefer this meaning, rather than the Christian version of seeing Christ as a man.]

Could it mean annointed?

[Teakai]

Teakai,
[Also - I would just like to point out that the origin of the word Christ is Kryst or Krystos meaning the soul within. I can't remember where I came across that - but I personally prefer this meaning, rather than the Christian version of seeing Christ as a man.]

Could it mean annointed?

As a technicality, Lefty Dave. To be 'annointed' one had to have returned to or become aware of the 'kryst' within - that is the soul. Usually those initiates of the mysteries were considered 'annointed' .