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chancy
8th February 2015, 02:22
Hello Everyone: Putin has made a stand against the new world order. He says NO!
Here's the article of a man Standing up to the ptb.
chancy

link:
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/russias-putin-says-not-wage-war-anyone-152038156.html

Article:
Russia's Putin says will not wage war on anyone
ReutersReuters – 7 hours ago February 7, 2015

Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko and Russian President Vladimir Putin both give speeches touching on the ongoing conflict in Ukraine. Justin Mitchell reports.

SOCHI, Russia (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Saturday Russia did not plan to wage war on anyone although a world order where one leader tells others what they can do would not suit Moscow.

His comments were the first from Putin since he met French President Francois Hollande and German Chancellor Angela Merkel on the crisis in the Ukraine on Friday.

"There clearly is an attempt to restrain our development with different means. There is an attempt to freeze the existing world order ... with one incontestable leader who wants to remain as such thinking he is allowed everything while others are only allowed what he allows and only in his interests," Putin said.

"This world order will never suit Russia…But we are not going to wage war on anyone, we are going to cooperate will all," he said during a meeting with labor unions in the southern city of Sochi.

Kiev and the West accuse Moscow of fomenting pro-Russian rebellion in eastern Ukraine and supplying arms and fighters. Moscow denies the accusation.

Putin repeated that Western sanctions imposed on Russia in retaliation over its role in the Ukraine conflict would not work.

"Sanctions – in the end I think they will not bring joy to anyone and they clearly can't be efficient with regards to a country like ours although they are causing a certain damage to us. And we should understand this and increase our sovereignty level including in the economy," Putin said.

Gardener
8th February 2015, 02:44
If I were able to speak to Putin or send a message that he would read, I would say 'keep talking! Keep telling the world how it really is and shame the leaders attempting to put up another 'iron curtain'.
I remember he sent a convoy of aid trucks, and they wouldn't let them in for ages, trying to say they were smuggling arms. Russia, like Putin says are not going to wage war, but neither are they going to lay down and be walked on.

lucidity
8th February 2015, 03:59
Putin is the only man (with any real power) who is offering any public resistance to the NWO.

This quote from Putin seems accurate to me:


There is an attempt to freeze the existing world order ... with one incontestable leader
who wants to remain as such thinking he is allowed everything while others are only
allowed what he allows and only in his interests,


How many wars has the USA started since 2000 in the middle east ?
How many wars, coups and terrorist groups has the USA funded, armed and/or trained ?
Did you catch this story about the Snowden Revelations about 9/11 ?
http://www.theeventchronicle.com/study/shocking-new-snowden-leaks-change-world/
Somehow, the MSM failed to cover it. But it's all there. Some form of nuke was
used to demolish the twin towers and yes.. the conspiracy theorists were right all along.
USA even attacked itself, so it could legitimise immediate attacks on Iraq and Afghanistan.
All in the name of the NWO.

A NWO that's offering us RFID chipping of very single person;
the abolition of civil and individual liberties; arrest, indefinite detention and actual 'torture'
of suspects without charge and without legal representation. A NWO order that seeks to
limit human population growth with toxins like fluoride in water and GMO in food.
A NWO order where the top people are implicated in masonic membership and actual
paedophilic abuse rituals. You really couldn't make this **** up.

We need people to resist the NWO. This is no one's idea of utopia.

lucidity

Omni
8th February 2015, 05:57
I find Putin a mysterious person. He has the past in big oil if what I read is correct, but that alone doesn't condemn him. He does at least say nothing about the censored activists in Russia according to davidicke.com . But he does seem to be a man who has integrity sometimes. He is opposing the old world order forming a NWO. Russia has been targeted as result it seems.

I guess ultimately anyone waking more people up is doing some good. I don't trust Steven Seagal but the way he described Putin demanded respect for Putin at least in terms of a strategist. He knows the art of war well, and all that goes with it. I would love to see what Putin would do as President of the USA.

What has Putin done for liberty in his own country though? Icke says Putin is controlled opposition and implies he has taken liberties from his own country. I have ping ponged in my opinion about him and frustratingly just settled at I don't know the man. I wonder what Putin's opinion on targeted individuals is. I wish I could speak Russian to view their web pages of Russian targeted individuals.

Citizen No2
8th February 2015, 08:56
I would be very careful if I were you. I liken Putin to the Pied Piper of Hamlin, only more sinister.

Should you only read one book this year, make sure it is this one: http://www.amazon.com/The-Man-Without-Face-Unlikely/dp/1594486514

False flag events, bombing his own people, amassing huge wealth, product of intel services........... that's yer man Putin. In this age of unlimited information our attention span is fragmented....... divide and conquer. Beslan School siege, Dubrovnik Theatre, remember? THIS is Putin. What, our new saviour?

Behold here comes the dreamer, and we shall see what will become of his dreams.



Regards.

kemo
8th February 2015, 09:36
Putin is a barefaced liar and a gangster. What qualities people admire in him is beyond me. If you admire qualities such as lying, ruthlessness, greed, no respect for law or democracy I'm gald I don't live next door. There is no rule of law in Russia, and precious little democracy. He trail of polonium that killed Litveneko (or however you spell it) almost certainly leads to the door of the Kremlin and I'm glad that the lawyers for the family call Putin for what he is court - though they'd better watch out. Pussy Riot? Could that happen in a country where there is any freedom of speech. Putin and his foreign minister lied through their teeth that there were no Russian troops in Crimea when we know damn well there were. He's putting out the same lie now when a few hundred of them now have gone home in body bags and their families offered compensation as long as they keep quiet about it. Any of his oligarchs get big enough the threaten him he jails them on trumped up charges. I've read enough dirt on Putin now - but I won't get into that. Eventually he'll go or get pushed one hopes but one of these days those who admire Putin will have to eat their words. Or if you think he's so great - you know what to do - see how you like it - not.

WhiteLove
8th February 2015, 10:16
Personally I am very disappointed by the outcome of Obama's leadership. Although I knew he is extremely constrained at his level of power, I was hoping for some kind of statement like "people, we face an external threat by our own and the global military industrial complex, I need your help - collectively we need to disarm the world and I cannot access what I need to get that ball rolling". Instead he has been appearing at various official talks with a very proud look on his face that is unfair to the public and relative to what a person at that position is responsible to do for the people, he owes that look to Snowden. Let's hope that at the end of his presidential period he will take a last chance of meeting his responsibility towards the people. Let's hope that he will stop sponsoring the corruption, the crimes and the secrecy going on at his level and beyond and focus on what this world really needs - world peace and love.

So to all of you in the US at a voting capacity: During the next presidential election, please vote on a candidate which is a candidate to boldly create peace with his/her own life at stake, to really act only with that interest in mind, rather than sucking the old war soup. At least that's worth it while all the truth seekers around the world join force.

Feritciva
8th February 2015, 12:36
Thanks Citizen 2 & Kemo! Just when I was thinking, "ok even alternative sources & so-called semi-awakened ones are in illusion/delusion" I've read your posts.

There's still hope!

sigma6
8th February 2015, 17:15
He's a bit of both, no doubt about it, but I'd say more good than evil, the good seems sincere, the evil, more pragmatic necessity... (kind of the mirror image opposite of Obama in way...o.O?) he has to control of the country, otherwise it will be torn asunder by western infiltrators, operating at every level... Commerce is a constant dynamic battle ground of war... this is not your imagination... even war has rules, it's when parties cry foul, and the stakes rise... the rules become simply more brutal.

btw here's a plan for the "perfect world"... :D

The 1% have to be sacrificed, for the good of mankind (say good bye to your idols of worship) releasing 50% of all the wealth of the planet into a global trust fund (which technically it already is... so I guess educating the public would have to be part of that...) That would solve 90% of all the problems overnight. Combined with the elimination of all military production (police-y level only is bad enough) Nuclear bombs, phosphorous spray, napalm, plutonium projectiles, land mines, tanks, bombers, etc, etc ?? I would agree to population controls and common law sovereignty with a socialist safety net until all poverty is eliminated, a transparent electronic voting system, checked by independent 3rd parties, public education on managing government starting in grade 1 where everyone has an acceptable level of shelter and sanitation, healthy food and water, clothing and access to education, and their own limited line of credit (again this is technically already in place...)

This in exchange for the removal of all these life stealing technologies, and a progressive prison system based on real rehabilitation, training, education (especially in the area of philosophy, quantum physics, consciousness affecting physical reality, etc) If you want a one world government, this is the place to start who would fight against that in a UN vote? (besides the current US govt, (along with it's suck up partner Canada) Where 50% of the wealth is controlled by 50% of the population, the other 50% could still be set up as a competitive social pyramid to maintain an edge of competitive efficiency available to all who wished to further improve their lot in life... Even then 1% would never be allowed to control 50% of even that portion, specific values would be set, or reset (Jubilee) Just like in the game of monopoly and rewards could be handed out for the most A-personality type to put above their mantle at the end of each Jubilee for the most money manipulating son of a bitch award (or similar) For the winner to gloat over and satisfy his ego need. All within controlled economic parameters

Spirituality in balance with materiality. Sorry maybe everyone won't have a fur coats, diamonds, marble palisades, and Rolls Royces parked in the drive way, a bar with a $5000 of booze, and weekend trips to the casino... but they will have a computer, phone, internet/video unit, hot water, kitchen, bathroom, laundry, optional vehicle, (like an easy maintenance Lada or Austen mini, (but not a Chevette) maybe set up as government operated 'rental' stations (tied to their credit)

The world would be full of good will, peace, no more need to steal, or guilt over others starving while we do nothing, therefore less denial, rationalization, lying, self deception, etc.. Also the huge dividends would be put toward public parks, public swimming pools, sauna houses, recreation centres, art centres, education networks, or whatever, even churches (as long as there is no money collection, so technically just a subset of education (spiritual education) and none of these would be the crappy ones currently built by government (that look like subliminal prison installations) but ones people would be willing to pay money to go to (but they wouldn't have to because it's already paid by their pledge of lifetime labour securitized into a line of credit and built into the system... ) Something they would understand because they were educated about it in during public school... all doable with today's technology (the only thing missing is the education...of the masses)

On a lesser scale, they almost had something like that in Libya btw didn't they? re: standard of living, housing, credit, education, food and sanitation...

happyuk
8th February 2015, 19:29
Putin is doing his country no favours. No sane person is going to invest in a kleptocracy. Russia is just a bad geopolitical environment.

Fifteen years ago, when you heard the word mafia, you thought of wiseguy gangsters, or the Godfather. Today, you think of Russian businessmen.
India and China now embody highly educated, dedicated high-tech workers, Russia is the thug you cross the street to avoid.

pianoman1954
8th February 2015, 20:11
The US are condemning Putin for aerial patrol of 'NATO' borders. What has happened is that the US have pushed NATO right up to Russia's border and they are patrolling their own borders, which they have every right to do so. What has happened in Ukraine is a classic CIA led regime change, ousting a democratically elected government, and a installing a bunch of neo-nazi thugs led by Poroshenko.

Ian Wright

chancy
9th February 2015, 00:18
Hello Everyone:
It's great that we have lots of people talking about this news. Some are in agreement and some are not. We cannot all be agreeing or something would be wrong with the world that is for sure!

In 50 years I have NEVER heard one leader say that the new world order was not for them. Putin is the onlyl person that I can recall that has done the unthinkable of stating in public he is NOT for the NWO. IF this has happened can someone bring the news to this thread because it would definitely be of interest to all of us I am sure.

I believe that each country should make their own way in life and each country respect the other countries people and laws. Unfortunately this doesn't happen in our world today. We see countries going in and blowing the heck out of countries because they want to govern themselves. What an unfortunate way to peace! OH, what peace!?! Seems like there's not too many countries that want peace in the supposed civilized world.

The one thing that makes me smile is that with the mafia you always know where you stand. They are running a business. If you fail they fail. With government(s) you NEVER know where you stand because they are always breaking their promise(s) to us as tax payers who pay their way to do the things they choose. ( Seems like if we are paying the way for governments then we should have the say in all things. As normal governments think that we are just useless scum of the earth that need to pay and don't open our mouths. Of course this is another topic and thread in itself.

chancy