FEMA Camps Confirmed (Alex Jones)

[Nagual]

anBdjS9IOkw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anBdjS9IOkw

[Kulapops]

Is this news ?

:)

[Solphilos]

Perhaps you should check out this thread here mate: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7330-The-quality-of-Avalon-keeping-the-signal-to-noise-ratio-high

I'll abstain from beating the horse with what I think about ole jonesy boy, lol.

[Nagual]

Perhaps you should check out this thread here mate: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7330-The-quality-of-Avalon-keeping-the-signal-to-noise-ratio-high

I'll abstain from beating the horse with what I think about ole jonesy boy, lol.

Thanks Sophilos.

Actually, I remember checking this one http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4740-Alex-Jones...Truthseeker-or-liar&p=43484&viewfull=1#post43484

[truthseekerdan]

Thanks Nagual, should be an interesting episode Friday night.

[Nagual]

Thanks Nagual, should be an interesting episode Friday night.

That was my thought, lets wait and see...

[Nagual]

Is this news ?

:)

Not news, Kulapops. But I guess for some researchers is like with UfOs, they know are real but they 'need' some kind of 'official' confirmation (disclosure)

[Ahkenaten]

I wonder if there are larynx transplants?

[Kulapops]

Not news, Kulapops. But I guess for some researchers is like with UfOs, they know are real but they 'need' some kind of 'official' confirmation (disclosure)

Great! And from what you've seen, is this confirmation, or promise of confirmation ?

These things are always being promised but hardly ever realised.

Forgive me not checking Alex's vid... but if you say to me they're real, that's good enough for me

:)


But then, I'm pretty sure the bogeyman is also real. Not many people would believe that one :)

[Teakai]

Is this news ?

:)

Absolutely.
This is going to be on 'mainstream media' - when it's on mainstream media it becomes 'real' for the people who have been brainwashed by their TV's.

The more aware people become, the more informed the choices they make.
It affects the thought, which affects the action which affects the outcome.

It shifts the balance.

[Fredkc]

Kula;
But then, I'm pretty sure the bogeyman is also real. Not many people would believe that one
Oh Kula...
Coffee first, THEN have that first look in the mirror.
Fred

[shadowstalker]

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=fema+camps+cnn&aq=f

they where on main stream news but once again the sheeple mind blocked it out,
there is tons of stuff on youtube that was taken from CNN interviews

[Kulapops]

Great . I look forward to returning to this thread when knowledge of the real existence of FEMA camps is known to all the people out there who watch normal TV. And the American government (not Alex Jones) have coughed to their existence.

Hopefully this will be followed (after an ad from our sponsors) by Mr Bush's televised war crimes tribunal

Someone PM me please when the existence has been proven/admitted... and not when it's about to be

Anyway., Hurricane Katrina. What was the football stadium if not a giant FEMA camp ???

So they do , can and will exist. Even if it's an old school opened to house the 'collectibles'

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Oh Kula...
Coffee first, THEN have that first look in the mirror.
Fred

Oh sooo funny :).... but just explain me this... who else nicks that last glass of wine out of the bottle from under you?

[norman]

Not wanting to diss' Alex Jones or Jesse Ventura, because I honestly believe at least Alex Jones is coming from his heart and is screaming his lungs out for "his" America, I still can't help seeing the progression of things in America as Orchestrated Panic. The PTB need the patriots/rebels to be seen on TV as 'those nasty violent troublemakers' who we need to round up and silence for the benefit of all good law abiding ( and docile ) "free Americans".

I expect the PTB to try to exploit a short window of opportunity where they will swamp the mainstream media with all sorts of alternative viewpoints just before they really stick the boot in and start openly rounding people up. The fuss and flaming and confusion in the media will be maximised and then the rules of the numbers game will apply. There are far more unaware people in any country that there are aware people. Order will be brought out of the caos and the clampdown will have set in good and proper.

[Ahkenaten]

I think they have done all their gaming and analysis and even the Cray supercomputers aren't able to come up with workable models in order to make plans. The system is in disequilibrium. There are infinite possibilities as to which patterns will emerge along the fractals. You can't round everyone up and put them in jail. If everyone just withdrew their consent the entire system would fall overnight. It probably will fall anyway but there is a chance that together we can push the tower in one direction and actually draw the designs along the edges of the new world.

[witchy1]

If everyone just withdrew their consent

I think Im a bit behind the 8 ball - can someone please provide a link (or a brief outline) that describes how practically we might withdraw consent and what have (did) we consent to in the first place that would enable us to withdraw it?

I'm just not understanding this concept (but I have only had one coffee)

Cheers
W

[Teakai]

I think Im a bit behind the 8 ball - can someone please provide a link (or a brief outline) that describes how practically we might withdraw consent and what have (did) we consent to in the first place that would enable us to withdraw it?

I'm just not understanding this concept (but I have only had one coffee)

Cheers
W

I'm sort of wondering the same thing, Witchy. How do you withdraw consent yet continue to support the system?

I was thinking we could all go back to basics - back to the earth - but that didn't really do the natives any good.

This is earth.
There will always be lower energies - it's part of the process.
The question being - should push come to shove do you not fight for evil or do you fight for love?
Look at the Tibetans and what happens when you don't fight for love. Bit of a paradox really.

[Ahkenaten]

Withdraw consent means stop playing ball with the status-quo paradigm, to the extent that it is possible to do so. Here are a list of just some examples:

*Stop mindless consumerism. Do not buy anything unless you or your loved ones actually need it.

*When making purchases, (and of course this includes food!) bear in mind, to the extent that it is practical, the impact on the environment, who made or produced the objects and whether those who actually produced it are receiving a fair wage for doing it, what is the thing made of and what natural resources are used in producing it and then reconsider whether purchasing it - tantamount to supporting that system - is worth the price. In the US bottled water is one of the most gigantic rip-offs and scams. Unless the integrity of your water supply is in question it is a waste of money. That is just one example.

*Begin aggressively SAVING, that is to say - routinely setting aside sufficient funds/food, necessities without getting obsessive about it, for possible future use

*Get to know your neighbors - build relationships on some level of mutuality. Neighbors are able to look out for one another where the rubber hits the road. Trust and mutual support are the building blocks of community.

*If you can, plant a garden. If you can't plant some herbs in a few pots and buy fresh food when you can from local farmer's markets, or better yet - directly from the farmer.

*Have some chickens if you can. I'm not joking about this. One chicken produces one egg a day. That is a pretty bid return on an investment. They don't call nest-eggs nest eggs for nothing!

*STOP WATCHING TV, especially cable fake news. It is bad for your mind and your health. Develop a variety of alternate information sources and to the extent that it is practical, truth-test and verify information and sources to insure you are getting the best information that you can.

*DO NOT USE CREDIT CARDS - revert to cash transactions whenever possible. They are difficult to monitor and even if the value and status of the dollar are in question, cash on hand for hard times can ease the way during tough times especially if someone decides suddenly to pull the plug on the cash machines and electronic system, even temporarily

*Start thinking of a special skill or something unique you may have that you can barter if need be for goods and services to survive.

*Do not patronize businesses or corporations whose policies are known to be destructive - we know who these are. When it is necessary to make major purchases, to the extent that it is possible - keep it local to benefit your community and neighbors.

*Reduce consumption of fossil fuels, walk or ride your bike whenever you can

*Take more time to read critically - hone critical thinking skills. Take care that the garbage that goes into your mind can exert a bad influence on you. Take care about what goes in your body and mind and especially mind what comes out: much harm can be done by imprudent thoughts, words and deeds.

*Master something - a subject, skill, something that will develop intellectual discipline and self-respect.

*Get involved in your community as you define it. Volunteers are always needed.

*Get rid of the garbage, literally, in your life, including extra stuff. A good Fall House Cleaning is in order on all levels - and use vinegar and old newspapers to clean the mirrors!

*Examine relationships. Take steps to make amends wherever possible for wrongs committed deliberately or inadvertantly. Take concrete steps to improve existing relationships. Human beings rely strongly on one another and key relationships are not only vital for survival, but that is where moral and ethical development has the real opportunity to grow and develop - especially when facing difficulties together. We rise, or fall - together.

*Look at what is done with your TIME. Time, even though its existence is in question, is a valuable commodity. Invest time wisely. We create our reality with what we do here, now so time should not be wasted.

*Develop a public persona that projects simple straightforward honesty and friendliness. Interface with others with CIVILITY. One sign of society breaking down is incivility between strangers - and we must repair the bonds and ties of social trust with simple civility. The grounds for mutual trust are established in the first seconds of contact between people - mutual trust and respect are the basic building blocks of civilized human societies without which we are broken and divided amongst ourselves.

*Share information with others in the spirit of helpfulness and openness. This is the way positive memes are spread.

*Approach work as building the SELF and offer the results to the betterment of the world and others without being connected in any way personally to the outcome. In this way the majority of the day becomes a ritual of giving back to others.

*Take time to honor and appreciate nature and the forces we are beginning to perceive moving behind the pageant we see before our eyes each day. We must recognize we depend upon nature for our very lives and cannot hope to survive without an environment that we can live in.

*Avert your eyes from those who you feel seek to do evil, especially in your name. Do not invest any time or money whatsoever in them, including watching them on TV, contributing to their campaigns, or purchasing products from companies or ventures they are involved in. Do not give them any attention or energy, conversely give that energy and attention to those who seek to do good.

*Consider taking peaceful action with other to demonstrate support for, or opposition to policies that conform to your highest ideals. Do not be intimidated. Do not back down.

*Carefully surgically excise any vestiges of racism, ethnocentrism, hatred, or other extremely destructive thoughts or ideations from your mind, and be vigilant of the forces always seeking to exploit human emotions in that area for the purposes of distracting and neutralizing mental development.

*Dedicate the Self to positive works always for the sake of others.

Anything else?

[norman]

........ You can't round everyone up and put them in jail. If everyone just withdrew their consent the entire system would fall overnight. It probably will fall anyway but there is a chance that together we can push the tower in one direction and actually draw the designs along the edges of the new world.



You are leaving the "numbers" out of that reasoning. When you say "if we ALL", how many or how large a proportion of the whole adult population of any of our nations do you really think that would be? The FEMA camps in America could easily hold all of the people who would be 'on target' and doing a better job than just caotic anarchy.

[Teakai]

I like what you wrote Ahkenaton - and that's a really sensible list of good advice.

But when the government want to stop you growing your vegies and owning your chooks - or bartering with your neighbour - which is what they;r trying to do - then what do you do? - Disobey?

And then when they fine you what do you do? - not pay?

And then when they come for you, what do you do? -resist or go peacefully?

And this really only has any chance of having an effect on the system if lots and lots of other people get involved.

And should other people get involved what should they do about the rules?
Obey them or resist them?

[Isthatso]

...and I would add to that - think of those that will follow us. How are we raising and educating the next generation. They will be the one's having to live in a future we helped create. IMHO mainstream education fall's short - where possible we can seek out alternative options (or start one yourself) that value individual interests and a more holistic approach to learning. My mind boggles at the challenges in store for future generations!

"Free the child's potential and you will transform him into the world" - Maria Montessori

[fifi]

You can't round everyone up and put them in jail.

Of course they won't round up everybody. They know it's impossible to break a big bundle of chopticks, but breaking one by one is easy. And that's what they will do (if they plan to). Firstly, notorious people like Alex Jones, or well-known like Jesse Ventura, David Icke, Jordan Maxwell.... then probably people like us in this forum, then . . . . who knows, maybe people they think not obedient enough...... Nobody knows that there are some people getting round up because this will not be published in the MSM.

Where I came from, if you are against the government, secret police come to your house during the night, and take you to who knows where. If you really knows how to play the game, your relatives need find out the right connection, bribe the right people to get you out, and keep their mouth shut. If you or your relatives cause more fuss, you will suffer dire consequence. Most people here have talked a lot about police state and martial law. I have lived in one.

[Mandala]

Jesse Ventura's recent show with Alex Jones was very good on the FEMA camps. Just an FYI, you can download each of Ventura's episodes for $1.99.