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shadowstalker
10th February 2015, 03:13
Stay Away From 'Measles Parties' Docs Warn Parents (https://gma.yahoo.com/stay-away-measles-parties-docs-warn-parents-214024473--abc-news-health.html)
California health officials are warning parents not to hold "measles parties" that intentionally expose their children to measles and other childhood diseases.
The California Department of Public Health "strongly recommends against the intentional exposure of children to measles as it unnecessarily places the exposed children at potentially grave risk and could contribute to further spread of the outbreak," the agency said in a statement today.
Measles parties were popular in the 1950s and 1960s before the MMR vaccine program was introduced for measles, mumps and rubella. The practice of measles parties is based on the belief that infected children will build up immunity to the virus because once someone has the measles they cannot catch it again.
But the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention also strongly discourages intentional measles exposure. The virus is particularly dangerous for children under five. In a worst-case scenario it can cause pneumonia, brain swelling or death.
Dr. Richard Besser, ABC News chief health and medical editor, echoed the same concerns about measles parties.
“This is a really bad idea,” he said. “Although most children recover from chicken pox and measles without a problem, not all do. The vaccines are far safer than the diseases.”
The CDC released new information earlier today revealing there are now 121 confirmed measles cases in 17 states since Jan. 1. Health officials believe the most recent outbreak originated earlier this year with group of unvaccinated people at Disneyland in California.
Besser cautioned that measles is a highly contagious disease that can linger in the air for up to two hours after exposure. Symptoms include high fever, runny nose, pink eye, cough and rash. People who are infected are contagious up to four days before symptoms appear and four days afterward.
Zanshin
10th February 2015, 03:34
Two things occur to me -
* either they are really struggling to convince people to 'take the shot' or
* they are setting the 'irresponsible party goers' up as scapegoats to blame for any further outbreaks.
- otherwise why mention the parties in msm at all - thereby presenting it as an option for those previously unaware?
sigma6
10th February 2015, 08:00
that and if any statistics were gathered it would show un-vaccinated mortality rate would be 1000s of percents below vaccinated which is numbering from the dozens to thousands now.. and this would blow their cover... they're acting like humans that existed in the 50's are another species from humans today and the laws of science and biology don't apply....
It also creates the possibility that they are in fact experimenting and collecting data (they are doing this for sure I have no doubt) and un-vaccinated immune children will completely mess their experiments...
Ernie Nemeth
10th February 2015, 13:52
The vaccinating crowd is out of control. I am now afraid that we are about to lose another bit of freedom. Slowly eradicating our freedom to make self-determining choices is the way of our future, unfortunately.
And unfortunately, we are all on our own, again. The voice for reason is an orphan...
Ernie Nemeth
10th February 2015, 13:58
In my mind, here's how it should actually be. Tell me which person will be negatively effected by the vaccine. If you can predict that ahead of time - then vaccinate the hell out of us.
Same with any anti-anything. If you claim cigarettes cause disease, predict which individuals will get ill. Then you can make the claim.
That is actually a good measure of just how ineffective a grasp we have on disease - we cannot predict an individual's course with any accuracy. Medicine, like most institutions in our society, begins with a premise that must be upheld - even against the truth...
onawah
10th February 2015, 20:26
Fake Measles epidemic, another psyop
https://jonrappoport.wordpress.com/2015/02/10/what-sharyl-attkisson-told-me-about-vaccines/
What Sharyl Attkisson told me about vaccines
By Jon Rappoport
February 11, 2015
www.nomorefakenews.com
"The complete failure of this year's flu vaccine, even by conventional standards, is a major scandal at the CDC. To distract the press and public, we now have a fake epidemic of measles, and pressure to take the vaccine, take all vaccines all the time. This is called a psyop. Psyops build fake realities." (The Underground, Jon Rappoport)
As my readers know, I've written many articles about vaccines, covering: mandatory shots; the pseudoscience of vaccination; severe adverse effects; poisons in shots; disastrous vaccination campaigns, and so on.
This article is about something else. It's about who is allowed to speak fully in mainstream media.
If truth were the objective of news, you would see reasoned debates between pro and anti-vax proponents on major networks----but that's a joke because no reasoned debates are permitted on any sensitive subject.
When it comes to vaccines, major media are all about "what doctors tell us." If I may be so bold, who cares what doctors say?
Who cares?
Why are doctors a privileged class? Why do they get a free pass?
Let's see...oh yes, it's because government and drug companies back them up. The last time I looked, this has nothing to do with the truth.
It has to do with monopoly, though.
"I'm a doctor, and of course I'm pro-vaccine."
"Welcome, Doctor, good to have you on the show."
Or: "I'm not a doctor."
"Sorry, you're out."
Or: "I'm a doctor, and I'm against vaccines."
"You're suffering from a mental disorder, Doctor, and you're a traitor to your profession and a threat to the future of the human race."
Media construct this premise: the pro-vaccine "experts" are truthtellers, and the people who question vaccines are "denialists." That's how the issue is framed. Ahead of time. On purpose.
The millions of brainwashed people who watch the news every night and genuflect and live inside that dream are content to believe "the good doctors." They have to believe someone, because they have no opinion of their own. They don't have the tools to form a reasoned opinion. If a doctor told them that four shots of bull sperm would protect their children from a virus floating in from the Orion Belt, they'd line up their kiddies at clinics and drug stores for the "free" jab.
An anti-vaccine reporter at a local TV station once told me she'd been labeled "trouble." She wasn't permitted to air any vaccine story, for fear that through word or gesture she might trigger a scandal.
Part of that scandal? Scores of viewers would contact the station and side with the anti-vaccine reporter. The execs knew those viewers were out there and were also "trouble."
On August 27, 2014, a long-time researcher at the CDC, William Thompson, confessed in print that he and his colleagues had cooked a vital vaccine study to "prove" the MMR vaccine had no connection to autism...when in fact that was a lie. The vaccine did have a connection.
A media storm should have followed. A respected researcher coming out of the woodwork and saying, "I lied"? That's a huge story for major media and medical media.
But? There was a virtual blackout on the story. There still is.
The vaccine establishment must be protected.
In the fall of 2009, Sharyl Attkisson, working at CBS News, blew the doors open on a huge Swine Flu scandal at the CDC:
The CDC, whose job it was to accurately report the number of Swine Flu cases in the US, had stopped counting. Stopped counting.
Why? Because the overwhelming number of blood samples from diagnosed or likely Swine Flu patients, coming back from testing labs, showed these people didn't have Swine Flu or any flu.
That fact torpedoed the entire CDC propaganda- fear campaign aimed at convincing Americans to take the Swine Flu vaccine.
So...Sharyl Attkisson's effort to move this story from the CBS News website on to the national nightly-news television broadcast was shot down.
Here is a piece from a 2014 interview I did with Attkisson:
Q: In 2009, you spearheaded coverage of the so-called Swine Flu pandemic. You discovered that, in the summer of 2009, the Centers for Disease Control, ignoring their federal mandate, stopped counting Swine Flu cases in America. Yet they continued to stir up fear about the "pandemic," without having any real measure of its impact. Wasn't that another investigation of yours that was shut down? Wasn't there more to find out?
A: The implications of the story were even worse than that. We discovered through our FOI efforts that before the CDC mysteriously stopped counting Swine Flu cases, they had learned that almost none of the cases they had counted as Swine Flu was, in fact, Swine Flu or any sort of flu at all! The interest in the story from one [CBS] executive was very enthusiastic. He said it was "the most original story" he'd seen on the whole Swine Flu epidemic. But others pushed to stop it and, in the end, no broadcast wanted to touch it. We aired numerous stories pumping up the idea of an epidemic, but not the one that would shed original, new light on all the hype. It was fair, accurate, legally approved and a heck of a story. With the CDC keeping the true Swine Flu stats secret, it meant that many in the public took and gave their children an experimental vaccine that may not have been necessary.
Q: You've revealed serious problems caused by vaccines. Have you run into opposition as a result of covering these stories?
A: This is a long discussion but yes, it is one of the most well funded, well orchestrated efforts I've ever seen on a story. Many reporters, if not all, who have tried to factually cover this topic have experienced the same opposition as have researchers who dared to uncover vaccine side effects. Those who don't want the stories explored want to censor the information from the public entirely, lest the public draw the "wrong" conclusions about the facts. The media has largely bought into the conflicted government, political and medical complex propaganda on the topic that marginalizes researchers, journalists and parents who dare to speak to the scientific facts they've uncovered or to their own experiences. It's a giant scandal of its own.
Q: I know you've had problems with your Wikipedia page. What happened there?
A: Long story short: there is a concerted effort by special interests who exploit Wikipedia editing privileges to control my biographical page to disparage my reporting on certain topics and skew the information. Judging from the editing, the interest(s) involved relates to the pharmaceutical/vaccine industry. I am far from alone...
Does that tell you something about the way major media cover vaccine stories?
There is even more.
The staggering capper on this tale? Roughly three weeks after Attkisson's Swine Flu revelations appeared in print, the CDC, obviously in great distress over the exposure, decided to double down. The best lie to tell would be a huge lie.
Here, from a November 12, 2009, WebMD article is the CDC's response: "Shockingly, 14 million to 34 million U.S. residents - the CDC's best guess is 22 million - came down with H1N1 swine flu by Oct. 17 [2009]." ("22 million cases of Swine Flu in US," by Daniel J. DeNoon)
The CDC had no facts or stats or lab tests to confirm ANY of their reported numbers of Swine Flu cases in America. So they said: 22 MILLION CASES.
But don't worry. Be happy. Everything the government tells you about disease and the need to take vaccines is perfectly true.
Perfectly, absolutely.
onawah
13th February 2015, 01:13
An overlooked solution to the measles outbreak
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/photos/a.517901514969574.1073741825.346937065399354/789902607769462/?type=1&theater
(NaturalHealth365) Amidst the mainstream media outcry over the recent measles outbreak, little attention has been given to natural means of preventing and treating the disease itself. Yet history shows that improved nutrition and better healthcare – not the development of the MMR vaccine – were the critical factors in drastically reducing the disease’s impact worldwide.
What is seldom mentioned in these reports is that before the MMR (measles mumps rubella) vaccine became widely used, the incidence of measles had already dropped by 98 percent or more in the developed world. In the United States alone, the number of deaths attributed to the measles virus had dropped by about 98 percent by 1963, the year the measles vaccine was launched.
Modern medicine has a warped view of history
To hear vaccination proponents talk, you would think the MMR vaccine was the light at the end of a long, dark tunnel of measles virus outbreaks. In reality, the incidence of measles was already winding down, the disease running its course in a way akin to the patterns of other infectious diseases. Similar patterns were seen in other diseases, such as scarlet fever – for which no vaccine was developed.
The important role of diet, proper hygiene and accessible healthcare is reflected in the fact that measles is much more common among people living in poverty than it is in the general population or among mid-to-upper income level households. This fact has remained consistent, both before and after development of the MMR vaccine.
Scientific evidence supports the ability of nutrition to prevent infectious disease
Few would argue that improved nutrition and access to better healthcare are directly correlated with improvements in income. This fact supports the observation that the rate of measles dropped dramatically as the 20th century wore on, not because of the availability of the MMR vaccine but due to improvements in diet and regular medical checkups as standards of living rose.
Scientists at Aix Marseille University, Faculty of Medicine, Marseille, France, concluded that adults and children displaying signs of measles should be assessed for a vitamin A deficiency. While focusing their study on the Roma community in Europe, the scientists make note of earlier works focusing on nutrition and measles.
They concluded that vitamin A deficiency impacts both severity and mortality related to measles. In addition, vitamin A deficiency is known to cause severe complications in children suffering from measles – including blindness.
Of course, findings from other trials yielded similar results. For example, scientists found that administering 200,000 IU of Vitamin A per day was associated with reduced mortality.
In addition to the link between measles and vitamin A deficiency, research also reveals the benefits of vitamin C in reducing the impact of measles. If you have any doubts, simply look up the work of Frederick R. Klenner, M.D. – who clinically appreciated the impact of vitamin C against infectious diseases – including measles.
He cites studies related specifically to the use of vitamin C to combat measles, noting that 1,000 mg – given intramuscularly every four hours – would lessen progression of the illness. He added that research has shown that 1,000 mg, – given every two hours – will clear all evidence of the disease within 48 hours.
However, Dr. Klenner noted that the measles will return, after another 48 hours, if the vitamin C dosage is halted. It wasn’t until 1,000 mg – every 2 hours – was administered for four straight days that the measles failed to return.
Big pharma and mainstream media outlets ignore the dangers of the MMR vaccine
While the latest measles outbreak, originating at Disneyland in California, has given rise to a seemingly endless stream of self-proclaimed experts pointing fingers at parents who choose not to vaccinate their children, these accusations are blind to the dangers of vaccination itself and the natural ways to effectively avoid being harmed by infectious diseases.
The MMR vaccine has been associated with a number of complications, including death. In fact, the two original measles vaccines were withdrawn and discontinued after they caused a high risk of complications, including severe pneumonia-like symptoms.
Far from being jailed, as some are suggesting, parent choosing not to allow their children to receive the MMR vaccine are to be applauded for looking beyond the hype for a more effective (safer) solution.
References:
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/18/9/11-1701_article
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11869601
http://www.seanet.com/~alexs/ascorbate/195x/klenner-fr-j_appl_nutr-1953-v6-p274.htm
- See more at: http://www.naturalhealth365.com/measles-outbreak-benefits-of-vitamin-c-1312.html#sthash.NCEV9vjk.dpuf
Zanshin
14th February 2015, 13:43
They sample a tiny portion of a statistical graph that supports the resultant outcome [vaccines cure all],
then they stretch the portion out until the scope is undeniable - Does anyone remember AL Gore's climate change/ sorry, global
warming graph?
Someone get that man a step ladder so he can get to his point. :)
Heartsong
14th February 2015, 17:14
Just an anecdote here:
Circa 1951 my brother nearly died of measles. He had a prolonged fever of 104 deg. He would have been hospitalized but the only hospital that could take him required a ride on a public ferry which was out of the question. Mom was warned that he might have brain damage. Measles is mild for some and deadly for others. Avoid it if you can.
Napping
14th February 2015, 19:15
Very concerning how black and white most people that comment on this site on the vaccination issue are and to be honest it does the whole "truth" movement a massive injustice.
The majority of the 121 individuals who have contracted measles from the recent outbreak in the US are unvaccinated. It's not made up, it's there for all to see.
The studies that get referred to on other threads against vaccinations are largely poorly designed, prone to bias and generally speculative. The amount of high quality studies supporting vaccinations is so strong that it bemuses me to think intelligent people on here can't see any merit in them whatsoever.
There's little doubt in my mind that some individuals have a nasty autoimmune response that can lead to neuro dysfunction, ie autism etc, and more research needs to be centred around identifying those at risk and minimising risks. For the vast majority of the population however, including just about everyone I know who amongst them are creative geniuses, Olympians and some of the brightest minds on this planet, the ghastly vaccines have clearly had no ill effect.
I had my second child yesterday, and i'm beginning to wonder how much of a threat the absolutist beliefs of people on this site are a threat to my own kids in the future.
That's the last I'll say on this issue as there's no convincing people who are already convinced that this is not a black and white issue.
Matt
awakeningmom
15th February 2015, 09:23
Hi Napping,
Actually, I currently reside in a very confusing gray area on this issue – and I am trying very hard to educate myself amid a sea of information and disinformation.
However, I will say that, although I haven’t researched the issue of vaccines thoroughly yet, I HAVE researched the issue of compulsory fluoridation quite thoroughly, and I will tell you that it sets off massive alarm bells in my mind whenever someone tries to dismiss legitimate concern/opinion on a compulsory public health practice by concluding that all the studies supporting the particular compulsory practice are “high quality, etc.” while those existing studies that have shown potentially serious risks are dismissed as “poorly designed, junk science, speculative, etc.” After hundreds of hours spent on that topic, reading through all the studies, speaking to experts in the field, learning about the history and politics behind the practice, I can say with absolute certainty that despite the nearly unanimous claim by all U.S. public health agencies that artificial fluoride in the water is safe and effective – this is an outrageous lie. Anyone doing deep research on this subject would realize that this is so – and that the real risks of this alleged “health” practice have been known (and intentionally hidden) for the last 60 plus years by the very agencies and health professionals purportedly charged with protecting citizens’ health.
So as to not derail this thread from the topic of vaccines, I will leave it at that, but I bring up fluoridation simply to explain that my past research on that topic proved to me beyond a shadow of a doubt that public agencies routinely lie and routinely advance corporate/elite agendas that are not aligned with the public’s health. The co-option of our CDC/FDA/EPA agencies is well-documented by scores of researchers, scientists, medical professionals, and insider whistleblowers. I am sure the same holds true with the public health agencies in your country, and that your public health officers are also doing the lucrative revolving door shuffle between public health positions and private industry positions. As I’m sure you’re aware, our former CDC head is now a big-wig at Merck pushing new vaccines. Hmmm….
So although I haven’t drawn any definitive conclusions on ALL vaccines, I’m starting from a place of heavy cynicism, particularly over the need for all 69 doses of 16 different childhood vaccines (or the need for a 12 hour old infant to receive a Hep B vaccine even if his/her mother was not at-risk or infected). The conflicts of interest involved in the CDC Advisory Committee that approves vaccines and recommends them for the mandatory childhood roster are staggering. And I’m sure you are already well aware of the Rotavirus vaccine scandal, and how Gardasil was rushed through the approval process without proper safety testing. Scandals and missteps like this do nothing to assure me that all mandatory vaccines are necessary, even if I’m still somewhat open to the possibility that some of them are.
Bottom line for me: I no longer trust my public health agencies to make decisions free from corporate/elite influence, which means I do not trust them to protect my – and my children’s – health. Vaccine manufacturers are in business to make money – and they only make money by making more vaccines or recommending more doses -- and ideally, getting those vaccines/new doses forced upon the captive market of our school-aged children.
Even if I were convinced of each mandatory vaccine’s safety and effectiveness, which I’m not, I still have a hard time with the idea of imposing it on others. I’m a big believer in the right to bodily integrity, as well as the right to informed consent (which, under the Nuremberg Code and other ethical medical guidelines, requires that consent be given voluntarily). Any and all compulsory public health practices that affect my – or my family’s – bodily integrity – violates both of those principles. And while I do respect your own beliefs that vaccinating your own children is the right thing to do, I don’t agree with your belief that it is OK to force others to do the same. This is what I find so incredible about pro-vaxxers who call anti-vaxxers “selfish” for not wanting to inject their children with something they consider unsafe/ineffective. Pro-vaxxers think nothing of demanding that anti-vaxxers be FORCED (or jailed for failing) to participate in vaccinating their children so that the pro-vaxxers’ own kids are “safe.” Who is the selfish parent in this scenario?
I do realize there’s the whole issue of “herd immunity” and the argument that individuals must sacrifice themselves for the common good. Perhaps there are some valid arguments to be made there. I guess I just haven’t read any persuasive evidence yet about why/how herd immunity works. If you have a good resource on this, I’d appreciate you passing it along. (I can’t say I’ll give it much credence if it comes from the CDC – but I’m willing to give it a read all the same).
All of us parents struggle with the right thing to do to keep our children safe. Unfortunately, because of the rampant lies our governments and health professionals have told us over the years, the right thing to do is often very hard to determine.
In any event, congratulations on the birth of your new child. Always joyous news!
Meggings
15th February 2015, 14:09
AwakeningMom, kudos on a well-written thoughtful post. There may be a greater link than any of us realize between use of fluoride and use of vaccines. Going back many years I've read that fluoride calcifies the pineal gland. I have seen photos of a calcified and non-calcified pineal gland, so assume others have researched this. I have read it was used in concentration camps to keep people more docile and manageable. It had not occurred to me before that vaccinations could be made carriers of substances manufactured to also interfere with the workings of the pineal gland, but now the possibility occurs to me.
I'd like to say that I have an open and functioning third eye, which would not be possible if the pineal gland were calcified. I see auras and energies from people, I see scenes from other timelines, I receive clear and strong "knowings". I've had very little fluoride in my life. Never had it in drinking water but got some from toothpaste and when a dentist, certain he was doing a good thing, "painted my teeth" with it, and then laughed derisively at my upset. That was back in the 1980's.
I hope you see my post over on "anti-vaxxers" that I made last night. If I knew how to link to it here, I would do so.
awakeningmom
15th February 2015, 23:52
Thanks, Meggings. The effect of fluoride on the pineal gland was studied extensively by researcher Jennifer Luke. See Jennifer Luke, The Effect of Fluoride on the Physiology of the Pineal Gland (1997). Naturally, Luke was promptly attacked and "discredited" after she came out with her unflattering data. I've also heard rumors about fluoride being used at concentration camps, but I haven't read anything credible about it yet. That doesn't mean it's not true, of course, but perhaps it's just too "far out" for fluoride researchers who don't want to be labeled as "conspiracy theorists" to take on and expose.
I wish I had an open/functioning third eye -- but I think mine DID calcify. Obviously, I don't drink fluoridated water or use fluoridated toothpaste anymore, but I've had years of fluoride in my system before I researched the issue, so no energy/auras are being shown to me yet. Any tips on decalcifying?
elearah
18th February 2015, 15:22
I had measles as a child. I was a weak kid. I had a bad case. The whole recovery took a month. There was no long term side effects.
I vaccinated my daughter. She was a weak child. She had gastro-intestinal consequences for three years, that robbed her from her beautiful smile. And still now after many more years, I´m not sure it will not have other side effects.
Did I have the right to know the risks of the intervention and take an informed decision at the time to the best of my abilities? I think I did. Was I informed? No. I was lied to. I was violated.
A weak child is a weak child. Chances are, the same kid that can tolerate the vaccine can tolerate the illness. And the kid that might have a bad case of measles will have a bad reaction to the vaccine that might last a lifetime.
I think we need to put the accent in getting our children strong, so they can weather any illness.
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