View Full Version : A new barter system from New Zealand (CreditXchange, described by Kiri Campbell)
magnum
11th February 2015, 03:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWv5TpTz2Oo#t=14
www.creditxchange.co.nz
Limor Wolf
11th February 2015, 04:23
Hi magnum, a couple of words could be useful, especially when the video is so long. I am on my way to work and will have to give it up even though the title is pretty interesting, since no time to decide wehther to save for later or not. Cheers, Limor ~
KiwiElf
11th February 2015, 04:34
After the first 3 minutes of crappy presentation I gave up! (and I'm a Kiwi!):confused: So much for first impressions - these people need to learn how to make a professional & watchable video presentation! ;) (no offense to you Magnum).
magnum
11th February 2015, 05:46
it's hard to explain in a few sentences but the presentation is well worth watching..it is paradigm shifting!...a way out of the fiat-money scam.
ThePythonicCow
11th February 2015, 06:35
A Kiwi (New Zealander) named Kiri Campbell describes a new web service called CreditXchange on a skype conference call (audio/video) with Lisa Harrison and a couple of others. CreditXchange somehow (I don't know how yet) makes use of cryptocurrencies (bitcoin, et al).
The recorded skype call is off-the-cuff, informal and not well organized ahead of time. Kiri's microphone picks up lots of room echo (perhaps just her laptop mic), which combined with her Kiwi accent, is almost a foreign language to my Texas ears. The economics and financials of this "scheme" (my choice of term, intentionally pejorative) strike me as another variant of attempt to use the laws of our nations against themselves, in phenomenal schemes that will make us all free and rich.
Kiri Campbell has previously posted regarding the One People's Public Trust (OPPT), such as in KIRI CAMPBELL MEDIA STATEMENT: BANK FRAUD PROVIDED A HAVEN IN THE CRIMINAL COURT (13 Oct 2013) (https://angellucci.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/kiri-campbell-media-statement-bank-fraud-provided-a-haven-in-the-criminal-court/). I don't put any stock in this (though some here on Avalon do.)
Here's a brief comment on this video, from a longer discussion of such efforts, from The End of Debt Slavery? Perhaps...You Decide (Brian Kelly) (briankellysblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/the-end-of-debt-slavery-perhapsyou.html):
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Now that there is sufficient background in place, let's fast forward to present day, February 11th, 2015. Last Friday a platform called Credit Xchange www.creditxchange.co.nz (website currently down to increase server capacity) was launched in New Zealand, by Kiri Campbell and her team of Freedom Fighters. Below is the first public announcement about this new program.
There is still much information coming out now as to how this system will work. Since I am still in the process of understanding its inner workings, I will hold back any explanations, so as to avoid unconsciously providing any misinformation.
I will say this. This development may not be "THE" answer. However, from my assessment it represents one of major importance. The likes of which, carrying the capacity to create a tsunami of positive change, likely to follow as a result.
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Here's a snippet from a web page describing more who Kiri Campbell is, at The curious case of Kiri Campbell (Socialist Aotearoa; 6 Aug 2013) (http://socialistaotearoa.blogspot.com/2013/08/the-curious-case-of-kiri-campbell.html):
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We recently received a Facebook message: "You guys need to investigate the case of Kiri Campbell. It is vital to Socialist Aotearoa for the future. Please take note of this."
So we did. These are the facts:
Kiri Campbell is a young woman from the southern Taranaki town of Hawera who attempted to pay $65,000 in fraudulent cheques to five local businesses as a protest against the banking system.
Kiri was then arrested and charged with various offences for fraud to which she plead guilty. But not before 80 or so of her supporters had shut down the Hawera District Court during her appearance and a Facebook support group of over 1600 members had sprung up in her defence.
Kiri and her supporters are part of a growing milieu of people who consider themselves "Freeman on the land". According to the Freeman Society: "Kiri Campbell of Hawera NZ has been detained by the NZ Police and NZ Courts for exercising her rights. She is the only Maori Woman in the world to make a stand against the alleged foreclosed banks and corporations by using THEIR OWN FRAUDULENT INSTRUMENTS to bring the system to its knees for ‘The One People’ of Aotearoa and the World."
The Freemen movement mixes anti-corporate rhetoric with various banking conspiracies and many of their supporters took part in the Occupy movements of 2011-2012. At these protests their adherents were spouting the sort of arguments that can end up being pretty dangerous.
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I added the qualifier "(CreditXchange, described by Kiri Campbell)" to this thread's title.
Zanshin
11th February 2015, 06:43
Awesome find magnum, thank you -
Haven't listened to much of this one (downloading to MP3 for later) but I followed Kiri's progress before.
Basically she's creating negotiable instruments and tendering them for settlement of obligations -
just like the banksters do - and it seems to be working.
She's talking about tendering an instrument to a car dealer friend to see if it would work and the
next week he's trying to sell her another car.
Looking forward to absorbing the info - recording quality not withstanding.
Post Update:
Hadn't seen your post before I hit the button Paul.
The basic premise Kiri and OPPT are operating on is sound -
We are considered Law Merchants and Bankers because we handle commercial paper
on a daily basis - fiat bank notes, signing govt. forms, bonds, shares, bench charge
sheets in court - whatever.
In the bankruptcy reorganization they are all debt instruments or promises to pay
at some indeterminate time in the future.
NOBODY is paying for anything and the Banksters are terrified that everyone is going to find
out - because if that happens the shell game is over.
Keri is talking about using private side banking to access our own energy that has been mortgaged
against our birth certificate bond.
This is exactly what the the banks do with our signed loan application.
They are paid within three days of securitizing that note - then they make three copies, issue them
to three other banks then destroy the original note. After three years they then fractionalize
this amount as LITTLE as ten times.
Our signature as evidence of life in a dead debt system is the most valuable thing we have.
This how our energy funds all the deep black projects into the quadrillions whilst we scrabble around
begging for the scraps.
As to OPPT there are some discrepancies with their process which I should best leave to one of the world's
foremost authorities in Negotiable Instrument Law - Winston Shrout.
Basically they have set up trusts and claimed to be taking custodianship of the planet as trustees
for the betterment of humanity.
Two flaws I see -
* I never gave them permission to do anything on my authority, did you?
* This has already been done by the Vatican where the pope claims to
be the 'vicar' of Christ claiming stewardship to the titles to the land, people and
souls of the earth holding them in trust till the return of the Redeemer.
And that's just working out wonderfully!
Winston goes into detail as to how their UCC filings do not achieve what they claim.
All that said I see no evidence yet to suggest anything other than honorable intent
and at the very least OPPT has opened thousands of peoples eyes to this
insidious deception that lies at the very root of everything that is wrong with the world
today.
SGjfKnAjnNI
ThePythonicCow
11th February 2015, 06:44
The CreditXchange FAQ page (http://creditxchange.co.nz/help/faq.php) describes what is going on here.
You open up an account for $99 and $30 per month cash and credit charges (or something like that -- I'm unsure of details.) You "barter" (buy and sell) items that are listed on the CreditExchange for no additional fees, and the CreditXchange tracks how many credits you have in your account. A business that offers items for sale can apply for credit equal to the value of what is offered. If that credit application is approved, then that business can spend those credits immediately, prior to selling the goods or services.
dim
11th February 2015, 06:49
this is the answer to the "Proof" thread
Omni
11th February 2015, 07:02
this is the answer to the "Proof" thread
More like subjective evidence IMO. Doesn't seem like this is something that is big and happening either. I didn't watch the whole video but I don't think this is any proof the cabal is being dismantled(if that is the thread you mean).... If NZ implemented a new system that would be closer to it, but this is just a few people discussing something and a new website?? Doesn't seem like a big deal to me. Certainly not any dismantling of the cabal. Even if NZ did form a new monetary system, first it would be exploited eventually... Secondly NZ isn't a very populated country(barely bigger than my state that is full of trees and mountains). Even if they lost out on that country in their scheme, it would barely dent their power. Although I'm sure they would dislike such a thing...
ThePythonicCow
11th February 2015, 08:46
f NZ implemented a new system that would be closer to it, but this is just a few people discussing something and a new website??
Good point.
This thread is not about some initiative at the national level, this is not New Zealand the nation doing something.
This is a new website, a fledging variant of eBay perhaps, using "credits" maintained on their (CreditXchange) website rather than major currencies as the medium of exchange and credit extension.
I am changing this thread's title from:
A new financial system for New Zealand and then the world (CreditXchange, described by Kiri Campbell) to:
A new barter system from New Zealand (CreditXchange, described by Kiri Campbell)
dim
11th February 2015, 08:53
you can beat it until it bleeds and in the end you gona see that the new era has began and right on time
we are witnessing the trailblazing of it, the old dissolves as the new emerges
it just never comes as thought it to be, life is unpredictable and this scares many
it is the only "proof" i can find, if there's a need for any
Zanshin
11th February 2015, 13:55
After listening to the entire audio it seems creditxchange could have legs. As with all barter systems success will depend on the
support it receives.
Kiri explains it as a system of credits (say a crypto currency like bitcoin) supported by a full trading platform similar to a bank.
This in a modular franchise format for replicating on a community level.
After researching the Reserve Bank regulations Kiri found it is not considered a bank - no coin of the realm used so nothing to
be rendered unto Caesar. This means no govt. ID or tax no. required to open an account - so the website needs updating already.
She also says the costs quoted will only apply whilst the project is transitioning away from fiat currency, being dropped once the
momentum builds.
There was talk of another skype call in a week, with hopes of footage of cards being successfully swiped for promo value.
I wish them every success as the intent seems sincere.
At the very least Kiri demonstrates real guts and determination.
Listening from about 9.30 mins for about 15 mins is time well spent I feel.
This is a short retelling of her successful tussles with the system.
She says it all came about when she got messed around with regard to her sick daughter.
Moral of the story - Don't mess with a woman who is defending her young:)
lucidity
11th February 2015, 18:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWv5TpTz2Oo#t=14
www.creditxchange.co.nz
I suspect this thing simply wont take off.
It's just too expensive.
They shot themselves in the foot right at the outset.
If this service was free... it _might_ have taken off.
The following quote is from the creditxchange.co.nz website.
Q. What does it cost to get started?
A.
New account set-up fee $99
$15/month cash and $15/month trade
NO listing fees!
6% transaction fee (for purchases and sales)
Joe Akulis
11th February 2015, 20:14
Sounds like the way different markets and fairs used to issue "scrip", back in the middle ages.
Wonder what the 6% transaction fee goes toward? And if that's one of the costs that would go away after things get rolling.
magnum
12th February 2015, 21:01
Kiri Campbell's Debt-Free Trading System | Understanding the CreditExchange system, and why it can work
Another incredible piece and perspective by Justin & Julian of the Stillness in the Storm blog. This post does an incredible job of simplifying complex ideas down into digestible bite size doses of extremely potent data. Not an easy task by any means. The adoption which Justin speaks of below will be a direct reflection of the masses ability to comprehend this information. Indeed it will take time. However, if Kiri and her team are successful at swiping the card this week for the first official public transaction on record, I anticipate the learning curve will be fueled and supported by a great deal of new found excitement and interest. Which may end up being an extreme under statement :) Holding space for this to roll out without any major set backs. ~BK
http://briankellysblog.blogspot.co.nz/2015/02/kiri-campbells-debt-free-trading-system.html
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