30-year mini Ice Age coming very soon?

[regnak]

Are we on the verge of a new Ice Age

A former White House and Nasa scientist says that due to the cycles of the Sun we are due a 30 year mini Ice Age

http://www.spaceandscience.net/id1.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miIEAOAOgyI

[shadowstalker]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miIEAOAOgyI

[Calz]

If ... (if) ... we have a super volcano ... like Yellowstone ... pop then yes ... we would not see the sun for several years (adding to what is already seemingly heading our way ...)

[regnak]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqLIPTnQK-g

also see Rolf Witzsche

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9abiktFkWo

and Piers Corbyn

[chancy]

Hello Everyone:
It's interesting how most people believe "global warming" now 'climate change".
The way I look at it if there's a buck to be made then it's wrong! When I was younger they were pushing an ice age and couldn't figure out how to make money with this bit of info. It didn't happen so the "global warming community" got together and figured out how to make big dollars off all of us including governments.
I always believed it was the Sun that was causing our weather here on earth but if you say that too loudly you will be tarred and feathered!
Here is Piers Corbyn who is an astrophysicist and a meteorologist from England. A wonderful fellow to listen to.
Enjoy!
chancy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWidrm3u9Vw

[Flash]

It surely feel like mini ice age here in Canada, this winter is coooooold

[Tyy1907]

It surely feel like mini ice age here in Canada, this winter is coooooold

Here in south central Canada it's cold also. Our winter"switch" was turned on about a month ago. The snow switch seemed to be turned on only a few weeks ago!

[Wind]

When the government tells you something, the truth is usually just the opposite. Soon we might not have any sunspots and a new maunder minimum (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maunder_Minimum) will begin and it will be in full swing about in 15 years, I wonder if we will be seeing mass migrations then. Just follow this news site (http://iceagenow.info/) or this channel (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC-5dIHmtQzHIdNCs7-bEdCA), the data doesn't lie, unlike humans with their fake IPCC data. Of course there is extreme heat in some places, but that also is part of the change.

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[jerry]

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according to this report there are those who are attempting to cause an eruption

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/yellowstone-secret-eruption-program/

[jerry]

If ... (if) ... we have a super volcano ... like Yellowstone ... pop then yes ... we would not see the sun for several years (adding to what is already seemingly heading our way ...)
Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIIThOZfC68


according to this report there are those who are attempting to cause an eruption

http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/y...ption-program/

[rgray222]

Prior to all the media attention being focused on the Bilderberg group they used to have a real website, one of the headings on the site was "The Coming Ice Age". Once the media started to focus a lot of negative attention on the group they put up a bland website with generic information. I always thought it was odd because at the time global warming was just bubbling to the surface. I always wondered what they knew.

[joeecho]

Weather......it's a changing.

[Aspen]

Great to see Piers Corbyn on Project Avalon. Just love him. He has been doing accurate forcasts for months in the future for many years. He says the main difference between him and other meteorologists is that he takes the sun and moon into account when forcasting the weather. rKPB5sNl4sE It was interesting to get his take on the polar vortex phenomena too. PWPauydDMiY

Religious program has Piers on for last half hour starting at minute 34. Interview fairly recent, Nov. 13, 2014 yJ9AONcOyoc

I am wondering how Piers is able to make accurate predictions of the weather 6 months ahead, that farmers rely on and pay him for, if the weather is being controlled???? They can't both be true, unless Piers is being informed by those who people say are manipulating the weather. It seems unlikely that globalists attempting to manipulate the weather would cooperate with Piers as his views are not those promoted by the mainstream media. He is always saying that global warming is "bollocks."

He says the mini ice age we seem to be entering is being caused by interaction with the sun in a solar minimum. He says we are in a period of wild Jetstream variation. He says the temperate zones will be more affected than the equatorial areas of the earth. He also says that besides the much colder winters there will also be wetter summers and recommends against planting crops like wheat.

[Hym]

The science is clear about the effect of the sun on this planet's climate and this is the dominant reason for any change, colder or warmer. To me this is a constant battle of semantics and the abuse of language when we see the blatant lies being sold to guide the opinions that the corporate governance meme uses to further another abuse upon humanity, and this living being we call Mother Earth.
I seldom write here on this forum, though I consider it's living, engaging friends and soulmates my companions in this short journey. So, i thought i'd share one of the notes i often make about the progress we are contributing to....

GLOBAL WHAT?
Calling the farse of man-made global warming "climate change" is like calling genocide....
ethnic "cleansing".
It's as preposterous and deceitful as calling a democrat a republican......errrrr......well that's not such a good example.....since they are all republicrats....demonicans......

It's the obvious Luntzian (Frank the Fibber, that is) abuse of truth......a tried and untrue Agenda 21 ass-licker doing his best Bernaysian double-speak to an empty-minded public. In fact it was Frank Luntz who was credited with changing "Global Warming" to "Climate Change". Remember that Frankie said that "it is not what you say that matters", thus if it is true or not, "but what your target audience hears". His focus on using "80% emotion, and 20% intellect"(those things we know as truthful facts), follows the tried and untrue focus of manipulative wordsmythes in selling lies when the truth cannot be found in an original presentation or marketing scheme. We should all be so inventive with doing quite the opposite with our words.

What is missing may just be a much larger sense of humor when dealing with such serious subjects, and of course a great deal of keeping the science recorded, in digital and written form, when dealing with the need to awaken others and share all we have learned.

P.S. Since i rarely write here I have to apologize for not responding to any requests, or few if i have any, as i didn't know how to do them. I am remiss in responding unless we have an exchange in this written forum. I'll learn.

I and those I know do not use social forums like faceplant or twitness, nor do i find a need to directly call up any agency of darkness by handing them anything i consider important, like my opinion, my insight and especially not my humour. Let 'em eat white cake, or yellow if they like....They have to work to engage me and it is never enjoyable to them, so they rarely call anymore.

[Octavusprime]

I just find it amusing that people are still arguing about whether man-made climate change is real. The science has literally been out on the effects of greenhouse gases since the late 1800's. Our time would be much better spent implementing solutions that minimize CO2 emissions. Instead we go round and round and round arguing over whether or not it is real. Increased C02 in the atmosphere heats up the planet. Humans create alot of CO2 directly through industry, cattle farming, crappy farming practices and the use of fossil fuels.

I really can't believe that people ignore the science and look for ways to discredit it.

From Wikipedia:
By the late 1890s, American scientist Samuel Pierpoint Langley had attempted to determine the surface temperature of the Moon by measuring infrared radiation leaving the Moon and reaching the Earth.[13] The angle of the Moon in the sky when a scientist took a measurement determined how much CO
2 and water vapor the Moon's radiation had to pass through to reach the Earth's surface, resulting in weaker measurements when the Moon was low in the sky. This result was unsurprising given that scientists had known about infrared radiation absorption for decades.

A Swedish scientist, Svante Arrhenius, used Langley's observations of increased infrared absorption where Moon rays pass through the atmosphere at a low angle, encountering more carbon dioxide (CO
2), to estimate an atmospheric cooling effect from a future decrease of CO
2. He realized that the cooler atmosphere would hold less water vapor (another greenhouse gas) and calculated the additional cooling effect. He also realized the cooling would increase snow and ice cover at high latitudes, making the planet reflect more sunlight and thus further cool down, as James Croll had hypothesized. Overall Arrhenius calculated that cutting CO
2 in half would suffice to produce an ice age. He further calculated that a doubling of atmospheric CO
2 would give a total warming of 5-6 degrees Celsius.

Meanwhile, another Swedish scientist, Arvid Högbom, had been attempting to quantify natural sources of emissions of CO
2 for purposes of understanding the global carbon cycle. Högbom found that estimated carbon production from industrial sources in the 1890s (mainly coal burning) was comparable with the natural sources.[14] Arrhenius saw that this human emission of carbon would eventually lead to warming. However, because of the relatively low rate of CO
2 production in 1896, Arrhenius thought the warming would take thousands of years, and he expected it would be beneficial to humanity.[14][15]

[Octavusprime]

There have been many Ice Ages over the earths lifetime. There are many inputs that contribute or cause them. Changes in atmospheric gas levels, changes in oceanic and atmospheric currents, volcanic activity, large meteors, changes in the earths orbit around the sun (Milankovitch cycles) and the intensity of the sun are some of the most well known factors effecting global temperature.

Milankovitch cycles and solar variation may be causing a cooling effect. This is a slow process. This doesn't take away from the fact that increased CO2 in the atmosphere is heating the planet and that this increase is being exacerbated by humans.

[regnak]

c02 hoax

In this documentary, you will learn the scientific evidence that today's "Global Warming" is in fact not true. Politics have been behind the scenes in setting propaganda myths, claiming that it is backed and supported by science - as this is an excuse to introduce global policies such as the soon to be reality carbon taxes, as we transform towards the New World Order OR One World Government.

The reality is that the increase of temperature of the Earth is not caused by the increase of Co2, but rather the increase of Co2 is caused due to photosynthesis. Photosynthesis is when there is a decrease of oxygen and an increase of Co2, due to the increase of light or temperature.The temperature can only come from the temperature from the Sun, which is when the solar flares of the sunspots increase in temperature. From the facts shown on this film, it explains that there is no increase of greenhouse gasses on the upper atmosphere of the earth. There is a very small percentage of greenhouse gas on the earth, yet alone there is .033% of Co2 on the Earth. Industrialization makes an even smaller impact of the increase of Co2 when comparing to vegetation, volcanic activities, and the ocean. Global warming is a natural occurance that has gone on throughout earths history. There is no dooms day scenraio - caused by humanity. That being said, it is private corporations that have the responsibility of the decrease of plantation, and thats how Co2 increases. But this still does not support the fact that this is the main cause of the sun's uprising temperature
Throughout Earths history, there have been a number of accounts where the Earth has reached high temperatures. For example in the 70s, there was claims of more natural disasters and increase of heat. Soon after, there is a cooling period.
During the middle ages, we had the middle eval warm period. Soon after that there was a mini-ice age throughout the globe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRi1VT9MY0M&list=PLE1B4EE730C6D1AD0

[Octavusprime]

The reality is that the increase of temperature of the Earth is not caused by the increase of Co2, but rather the increase of Co2 is caused due to photosynthesis. Photosynthesis is when there is a decrease of oxygen and an increase of Co2, due to the increase of light or temperature.The temperature can only come from the temperature from the Sun, which is when the solar flares of the sunspots increase in temperature.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRi1VT9MY0M&list=PLE1B4EE730C6D1AD0

Photosynthesis does not increase CO2.... Photosynthesis uses CO2 and sunlight to create carbon based plant growth and releases Oxygen as a byproduct. Increased temperature actually decreases the amount of photosynthesis in most plants. Yes, the temperature of the earth is directly related to the output of the sun. The issue with greenhouse gases is that they absorb thermal radiation that has bounced off of earth and then radiates it in all directions. Some of this heat is shot back at the earth.

I'm not saying that solar cycles doesn't effect global temperature but man made climate change is real. Fact: Humans dump CO2 and methane into the atmosphere. Fact: These gases increase earths temperature. Fact: Earth's global temperature average is increasing.

So take the facts and do what you want with them. Find some article written by some scientist on Shell Oils payroll to "present evidence" that states otherwise. We will all have to deal with the consequences of our non-action in the not so distant future....

[regnak]

If CO2 is rising, as it was in the 40's through the 70's, why would there be cooling?

CO2, despite being a minor element of the Earth’s atmosphere, is essential for all life on Earth because it is the food that nourishes all vegetation. The Earth has passed through many periods of high levels of CO2 and many cycles of warming and cooling that are part of the life of the planet.

“Science works by creating theories based on assumptions,” Dr. Ball notes, “then other scientists—performing their skeptical role—test them. The structure and mandate of the IPCC was in direct contradiction of this scientific method. They set out to prove the theory rather than disprove it.”

“The atmosphere,” Dr. Ball notes, “is three-dimensional and dynamic, so building a computer model that even approximates reality requires far more data than exists and much greater understanding of an extremely turbulent and complex system.” No computer model put forth by the IPCC in support of global warming has been accurate, nor ever could be.

Most of the reports were created by a small group of men working within the Climate Research Unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia and all were members of the IPCC. The result was “a totally false picture supposedly based on science.”

The revelations of emails between the members of the CRU were made available in 2009 by an unknown source. Dr. Ball quotes Phil Jones, the Director of the CRU at the time of the leaks, and Tom Wigley, a former director addressing other CRU members admitting that “Many of the uncertainties surrounding the cause of climate change will never be resolved because the necessary data are lacking.”

The IPCC depended upon the public’s lack of knowledge regarding the science involved and the global warming hoax was greatly aided because the “mainstream media bought into and promoted the unproven theory. Scientists who challenged were denied funding and marginalized. National environmental policies were introduced based on the misleading information” of the IPCC summaries of their reports.

“By the time of the 2001 IPCC Third Assessment Report, the politics and hysteria about climate change had risen to a level that demanded clear evidence of a human signal,” notes Dr. Ball. “An entire industry had developed around massive funding from government. A large number of academic, political, and bureaucratic careers had evolved and depended on expansion of the evidence. Environmentalists were increasing pressure on the public and thereby politicians.”

The growing problem for the CRU and the entire global warming hoax was that no clear evidence existed to blame mankind for changes in the climate and still largely unknown to the public was the fact that the Earth has passed through many natural cycles of warmth and cooling. If humans were responsible, how could the CRU explain a succession of ice ages over millions of years?

The CRU emails revealed their growing concerns regarding a cooling cycle that had begun in the late 1990s and now, some seventeen years later, the Earth is in a widely recognized cooling cycle.

[Mike Gorman]

Yes, this has been abroad for a while now - it makes a lot more sense than the Al Gore & United Nations led science cabal - 240 year solar cycle, the Thames will freeze again!
Something occurred to me - everyone seems to think there is actually an 'ideal' climate condition, as if the weather is designed for human beings, the climate is unaware of
our existence, and it changes in accordance with natural forces - primarily the sun. But this idea that our planet's climate is tailor made for us is just absurd - the climate has
always been changing and it pays no heed to our comfort - it is just a 'happy accident' .

[parcival]

All this whining!

Move to Florida; we are set for 80 degrees today.

[regnak]

Florida is perhaps the worst state to live in especially now.

Florida get hits by huge storms from the sea. If technology goes down Florida is very hot humidity no air conditioning . Florida is low lying so if sea rises flooded.
With the coming rise in the dollar and huge increase in interest rates in America truthfully America debt is small only around 18 trillion. America has built huge detention camps for the huge unrest when they default because no pensions, food stamps etc.

The debt for the world is around 236 trillion this is why the dollar will be last to fall. With the world wide hunt for taxes where is the safe haven used to be Switzerland but now they are turning over their clients once a great no. The Euro might collapse if Greece leaves the answer is I do not know where safe haven is.:p

[Snoweagle]

I just find it amusing that people are still arguing about whether man-made climate change is real. The science has literally been out on the effects . . . of the relatively low rate of CO2 production in 1896, Arrhenius thought the warming would take thousands of years, and he expected it would be beneficial to humanity.[14][15]

Sorry, but you are "cherry picking" picking your arguments to suit your argument and not focusing on the truth. Your evidence is shameful as the real value in that research is only valid within the confines of balanced analysis of the spectrum of ALL global gaseous elements. Furthermore the Atmosphere and the Ionospheres are ELECTRICAL environments which have been devastated, contracted, by the heavy impact of the HARRP devices worldwide (read the patents)

Are you one of those paid "shills" that are rewarded to try to convince others? Am absolutely sure you are not, though your argument is so similar to that of others, who view evidence with blinkered vision and we are all guilty of that, that we lose perception, clarity and focus to everything else

Why would you promote a plagiarist as your Avatar? Einstein was a clever bloke, but his fame came as a result of him being the access to financial investment for other researchers work and as a result of reviewing their work he tabbed his name on the sheet for potential endorsement. He too, by these endorsements and collaboration with other great men of the time kept the focus of science in one direction and instilled limits and restrictions on the science of physics, which only in the last twenty years have proved the greatest hinderance to mankinds development in applied sciences. Even Einstein had a "minder" in the shadows keeping things under control and secrets secret at that time.

[Snoweagle]

The cause of the next Ice Age will be the start up of CERN in March.

CERN will be going live on March 15th at full power - I predict now - there will be a collapse in global agriculture as a result - as the energy emitted and absorbed will create another "charged ionosphere" that minimises sunlight striking the earths surface. Effectively a return to the Middle Age "Blight".

The product of Cern will be to create a "shield" of high energy plasma around planet Earth to minimise the amount of the suns rays striking the planets surface. This will be blamed on "climate change" which is bollocks.

A major problem is for scientists to earn money they have to promote the lie. Just like Doctors have to promote phamaceuticals. Just like a preacher has to promote a Divinity.

As evidence that the reurn of the "Blight" is soon a'coming, check out the number of manufactured food products and chemical derivatives that masquerade as nourishment on the supermarket shelves, as there is likely to be a global decline in natural food products. You might also investigate where the investment monies have originated and the the source arguments that promoted the initial investment.

It will certainly give the Agenda 21 programme a major boost as if the military slaughter isn't enough. And here we are with the US and EU on the verge of starting World War III, so when these events conicide and military law takes over, who's going to complain? Just bring out your dead. Coming soon to a street near you, enjoy your television.

[golden lady]

I'm in the camp that believes our human industrial activity has had little impact upon the climate. However, I don't think any person would doubt the rape and pillage man has made upon our beautiful planets finite resources is a good idea!!
My personal opinion is that those oils and minerals are part of if you like the earths life support system. The quicker we can use a " different " source for our ever increasing energy requirements the better, just not on the back of this false science!!

[Aspen]

greenhouses to grow our own fresh produce in the winter is looking more and more attractive!

[thunder24]

greenhouses to grow our own fresh produce in the winter is looking more and more attractive!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?21429-Calling-all-Billionaires---

[Octavusprime]

PAID SHILL!!! :mmph:

Einstein wasn't perfect that's for sure. I don't think he is the monster some have claimed he is but that is for another conversation.

Yes, you need to look at all greenhouse gases. I do believe I mentioned Methane too, there are quite a few greenhouse gases with water vapor being one of them.

My personal thoughts on this is that there are organic substances (fossil fuels) that basically have "captured" the energy of the sun (Combustable material). This "saved" energy took a very long time to form. These gases, liquids and solids are a part of the living breathing earth and are systematically being ripped, drilled, blasted and sucked out of Gaia at an alarming rate. Once pulled out it is ignited and the byproducts are sprayed in the air, dumped in the water and spread over the land. What if the oil that we make our gasoline from is a lubricant for tectonic plates?

If you take a part of a system and severely deplete or change it, what happens to the system? It must adapt. Perhaps the adaptation is good, perhaps the adaptation is bad. It's all in the eyes of the beholder I suppose.

Regardless, there are those that make everything a conspiracy. I'm not sure why the PTB would lie about the effects of greenhouse gas. Isn't this encouraging us to reduce our use of fossil fuels? Along with banking, isn't this a very large revenue source for the cabal?

[jackovesk]

Blame it on ((GLOBAL WARMING))..:flame: :target: :pound:

[parcival]

Florida is perhaps the worst state to live in especially now.

Florida get hits by huge storms from the sea. If technology goes down Florida is very hot humidity no air conditioning . Florida is low lying so if sea rises flooded.
With the coming rise in the dollar and huge increase in interest rates in America truthfully America debt is small only around 18 trillion. America has built huge detention camps for the huge unrest when they default because no pensions, food stamps etc.:p

Sorry, don't see it coming. Been in FL for 35 years and have seen tremendous growth and excellent employment. In 35 years, I have never been through a hurricane (Tampa). The debt of the state (now third in population in USA) is moot. All debt is moot at this point in human evolution. We went through the last re-write of the constitution in 1999 and all debts were forgiven. All debt being piled on now is NEW debt on the "citizen accounts".

You really need to do more research and remain calm; No need to be a 'debt-doomsday' messenger.

Greece will do exactly as they are told if they want to exist with all the benefits and privileges that planetary commerce provides. In fact, they are already capitulating as I write this.

The stock market and all global markets will explode to the upside in the next few years -- probably much quicker. You will witness our markets easily at 40,000 Dow. It will be truly remarkable.

Enjoy the ride!