Unification - a wonderful ideal

[Bright Garlick]

I see a lot of stuff being pedaled about oneness, especially by those in the new age movement. I'd like to say that I think oneness is all bull****; at least the way that most humans interpret it.

There can be no oneness without accepting serial killers and syphilis and ebola and the asshole down the road and the war machine and those in power. You can't have selective oneness - I only accept certain things as part of my reality. Real oneness includes everything - the good, the bad, the ugly and the beautiful. How can it be otherwise ?

I believe that one world government and globalization is good for Earth. It works well elsewhere in the cosmos and is the hallmark of a mature civilization. If it wasn't good there would be no Project Avalon. But what matters is that global systems respect localized social and cultural autonomy. Who can say exactly where one ends and another begins but they both must co-exist if we are to mature as a species. This boundary is where fruitful and respectful dialogue must take place.

Unification can only happen through unity and diversity. We must come together and recognize one planet, one self, one cosmos. But we must also recognize individuality and difference and diversity.

Unification is an ideal. But it's an ideal we can realize if we learn to accept and to en-vision what's possible. If we look at PA as a microcosm of the Earth's people, we can see that unification is currently impossible for our species. But I believe, it's still an ideal worth working towards.

And we start by feeling with the heart. Feeling for the planet, feeling for self, feeling for our families, feeling for our neighbors, feeling for the assholes of the world, feeling for strangers, feeling for those who suffer, feeling for those who have less, feeling for those we despise, feeling for those we perceive have greater power than us.

Our human world is messed up because individuals have forgotten how to feel with the heart.

Unification depends on us looking at the world we have and accepting it, and en-visioning a new world and by educating children to feel with the heart and to cultivate empathy.

And to cultivate empathy, we start by planting the seeds of mindfulness in adults and children. Know how the mind acts, the mind thinks, the heart feels and the body feels. And take responsibility for our minds. Look inwards before we cast stones outwards.

[shadowstalker]

Awesome I thought it was just me who thought that :wizard:

[Oouthere]

Kind of makes one wonder if genetic engineering is so bad. Increase memory, reasoning abilities, etc, remove cancer, or other hereditary diseases. Perhaps this is what it will take to remove a lot of the negative traits and allow humans into the larger picture.

[Snowflower]

My concept of oneness is more on the atomic level than cozying up to serial killers. If everything is energy, and how energy is manifested is the only difference; if the nucleus, electrons, and protons that circle around in atoms are all the same, and the only difference is the way they are organized, then it is a totally accurate statement to say we are all one. But, I am not the same person (soul) as the sociopath next door. We both have free will and can manipulate those identical atoms differently.

[betoobig]

History (the true one) tells us we´ve been genetically modify... we should´nt mess with that in an artificial way, in a natural way is different, we all can re-program our Dna, in fact, that´s where we are... going back to our real state; then, perhaps those spicopaths next door will change and we´ll be happy to be one.
Now just a short story: the other day i went into a park outside my city. I lay my back on a treeand i felt something pointing out of the tree, it was a nine inch nail. I didn´t think at all, i just took the nail off the tree. I laid my back again and i could feel the tree breathing, moving, kinda hughing me... i felt to be one with him. It was awsome.
Love

[Finefeather]

Unification is an ideal. But it's an ideal we can realize if we learn to accept and to en-vision what's possible. If we look at PA as a microcosm of the Earth's people, we can see that unification is currently impossible for our species. But I believe, it's still an ideal worth working towards.

I love your thinking because it shares the goal of all higher beings...the will to unity shows the path to the common consciousness of higher kingdoms.
Unification can only be realized by a consciousness growth, because at the state of higher consciousness all beings know the truth of the meaning of unity...so what might that truth be?

Unity is a state where one knows that every being...from the lowest to the highest...is equal and has the same potential.
Unity is a state where one knows that all, so called evil, is just a phase of growth which will slowly be consumed by right thinking as consciousness expands.
Unity is a state where one knows the laws of reaping and sowing...karma...and how these forces are used to assist us in our consciousness growth.
Unity is a state where one knows that we all have equal rights to the one consciousness...even though we might not yet be as aware or conscious of it at our lower...unrealized...level.

So it would be ignorant of us if we thought that unity might be achievable...in completeness...at the human level, because the human level is the school of learning and of understanding the many ways how consciousness growth can be achieved.
When this unity is achieved in the mind...and in our everyday lives...only then are we ready for entering into the next higher kingdom...one up from the human kingdom...because this is the kingdom of unity.

Take care
Ray

[araucaria]

There are two aspects to this issue. First, oneness is the sum of all that is. It holds together the multiplicity and even duality that we see all around us and which are our finite way of exploring infinity. This is a reductionist approach, where the one is the sum of the partly known and the totally unknown. Part of this sum is growth: hence infinity is not so much all that is as all that becomes; which is why we sometimes call it the creation. Adding to infinity sounds paradoxical but is actually definitional: you can always keep on going, indeed that is all you can do.

But secondly, duality/multiplicity can be applied to oneness itself, which becomes the sum of all that is and something else as well, something that isn’t. If you add nothing, that is merely inconsequential; it comes to the same thing as subtracting nothing, or simply doing nothing at all. Only a nothing can do that. It gets potentially very destructive, however, when it claims to subtract everything (which may perhaps be expressed mathematically as multiplying by zero). But again, only a nothing can do that. And since nothing by definition does not exist, its potential destructiveness does not exist either, except for itself.

So the question ‘Why is there something rather than nothing?’ is a circular argument, since ‘there is’ can only refer to a something, and ‘nothing’ implies non-existence. When we realize that the glue that holds the multiplicity apart is this non-existent nothing, we understand that this amounts to saying that it holds the multiplicity together in the oneness. But if we focus on and identify with the nothingness, we opt out of the adventure of exploring the infinite all that is, which, being ourselves part of that infinity, we get to see in its fullness.