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Kryztian
13th February 2015, 04:22
In the last few weeks and days, the doomsday clock moved a lot closer to midnight. The Obama administration seemed on a collision course with Russia over the Ukraine. Three days ago Obama was threatening to send weapons to the Ukranians.

Today, in Minsk, Presidents Putin of Russia and Poroshenko of the Ukraine reached a comprehensive cease fire agreement (http://rt.com/news/231667-minsk-ceasefire-deal-breakup/), with German Chancellor Merkel and French President Hollande in attendance. (http://rt.com/news/231571-putin-minsk-ukraine-deal/) While many of the meetings are often phoney photo ops that leave you question what really happened, I believe that they all did genuinely come together and create a more peaceful planet. I believe they derailed that train leading the world towards a very violent crisis off it's tracks. I imagine the Obama Administration is fuming mad.

CNN pretty much ignored the story, and focused on a story of how Putin gave the President of Egypt an AK-47 the day before, although CNN pretty much ignored the details of that meeting which would indicate that Russian-Egyptian relations are warming while U.S.-Egyptian relations are cooling. Last week the big story on CNN was "Does Putin have Aspergers?" to which they concluded that we just don't know because we don't have any evidence but we at CNN will talk about it for hours anyway and banter the words "Putin" and "Aspergers" back and forth so many times that numbed up minds would have to conclude Putin does in fact have Aspergers.

As you may remember in 2013 the U.S. was ramping up to invade Syria over alleged use of chemical weapons by Assad. Biden and Kerry were constantly insinuating that they had the proof the Assad was using them, but every time the evidence proved to be false, the story vanished - no retraction, no correction.

Vladimiar Putin may not be one of my favorite politicians - he certainly doesn't stand up to the cronyism and the organized crime that plagues Russia, but nevertheless, on behalf of American service men and woman, and on behalf of the American people who pick up the tab on fighting wars, I think we owe you a debt of gratitude, as do the people in the Ukraine and Syria who will now not find themselves living in a war zone.

lucidity
13th February 2015, 06:17
probably, the USA will break this agreement by supplying Kiev with arms.
And then naturally Kiev will use the arms ... and a new spiral of violence will begin.
And all the while the USA media will talk about 'Russian' aggression.

It's all bull****.

No one has prosecuted, or even condemned, Kiev for shooting down flight MH17.
No one has suggested a war crimes trial against Kiev for the shelling of civilian areas.
The regime in Kiev are neo-nazis who violently over-threw a democratically elected govt.
The USA has funded these thugs to produce 'regime change' just as they have done
so many times before in South America.

be happy

lucidity :-)

Lifebringer
13th February 2015, 10:00
Madman Cheney is hitting the paid media spots for right wing torture cheerleaders in the voting block, with his book. All those filled with the fear of opening a mailbox. Jeesh. It's a mess isn't it?

I have a sneaking suspicion that the book will be his epitaph as far as not being prosecuted. A book full of confessions from a nazionist. I don't think the American public will be picking it up, but it might do some good, if some good folks, prosecutory folks used it in a case against him. Crimes Against Humanity a mad raving of a psychotic sphinter, in a race to put America on the bottom of the world leader list. Villains of other centuries not prosecuted, get to do it again through their offspring.

Perhaps pinning them down, shoving some soap in their lying mouths, and taking a good old fashioned ping-pong paddle to wear their behinds out and make them confess would work. LOL, just seeing that one in my mind w/heartless Cheney, made my day. I bet his 5 time deferral behind, can't take it. Any takers? LOL

Oh, happy Friday the 13th, it's really one of my favorite days, happen to be earth born on that day.

Kryztian
13th February 2015, 12:56
probably, the USA will break this agreement by supplying Kiev with arms.


The U.S.A. is not party to the agreement. France and Germany were represented at the negotiations by their leaders, but the U.S.A. can not make the claim that they are the world's peacekeeper. Of course, yes, there is probably a rogue element that will probably try and use people within the CIA to screw things up. For the Russians to arm the rebels, or for the Ukrainians to accept outside arms, it would be a violation of the agreement and a resumption of war. I think there is a sincere effort here on both parts to keep that from happening.


No one has prosecuted, or even condemned, Kiev for shooting down flight MH17.
No one has suggested a war crimes trial against Kiev for the shelling of civilian areas.

There are a lot of crimes on both sides. International and national. They are forgiven. Ukrainians won't face International war crimes. Ethnic Russian rebels will not be prosecuted for their crime of insurrection against the Ukrainian state.


The regime in Kiev are neo-nazis who violently over-threw a democratically elected govt.)

The Svoboda Party has played a big role in the event. The were formerly called the "Socialist Nationalist Party". It is not coincidence that if you reverse those first two words you get another name for the Nazi Party. The Svoboda Party had 37 seats in the Ukranian up until October of last year. After the October election, they had 6 (out of 450). They were clearly a force that drove the divisiveness in the Ukraine as well as the violence, and obviously, most Ukranians now realize they are awful.


be happy

I am. Yesterday was a good step towards a more peaceful world. I pray that things will continue in this manner.

astridmari
13th February 2015, 15:05
It was on the news the other day in Sweden. I guess we count as belonging to western media?

Kryztian
13th February 2015, 15:26
It was on the news the other day in Sweden. I guess we count as belonging to western media?

I think it is more in the European media than it is in the U.S. It was certainly a good photo-op for Hollande and Merkel.

When I wrote this yesterday, it was not "breaking news" here in the U.S. as it should have been. There are some stories this morning, finally, in the N Y Times and CNN that are okay, but are downplaying the significance of the event and making the agreement sound very tenuous, as if a negative attitude could doom it to failure. Also, I only took into account English language media.

Perhaps the fault is with all media for all time. Declarations and acts of war are big news. The creation of peace, however, only appears on page 2 of the paper.

M0JFK
13th February 2015, 16:28
Before they even left the conference room the leaders was disputing what they had agreed to. I wouldn't take anything to the bank on this new cease fire agreement people. For starters the leaders of the Freedom fighters never even signed off on the talks in the first place. Who in their right minds would trust a fascist installed coup with their safety in the east. I wouldn't give up chewing gum let alone my weapons on the word of Kiev. I don't think for one minute the freedom fighters are even going to give it a minutes thought to do so. They would be mad to give in now when they are about to annihilate the Ukrainian army in Seblasteve.

sigma6
13th February 2015, 19:40
I want to see them become a free independent state, and let them vote what they want to do, just like the people in Crimea did... a 90% vote with no violence was smart and is 100% grounds for revolution... too bad the East didn't make it there, could have saved them billions in damage...

The US admits they can't win a military war in Ukraine, and they admit all they are trying to do is damage Russia economically, (of course using Ukraine as the battering ram... follow the money)

Obama: If Putin Really Wanted Ukraine, He Could Take It
http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/02/09/Obama-If-Putin-Really-Wanted-Ukraine-He-Could-Take-It?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=referral&utm_term=rt-rtcom#sthash.ubzTF1Cp.dpuf

sigma6
16th February 2015, 01:14
World War 3: (This must be the upteenth attempt in how many years?)
The Beast to arm Ukraine as the Russian Bear mobilizes 100,000 troops
(Feb 02, 2015)
5p1W93MFV0QAt 5:20 another US talking head publicly admits, on the record, they couldn't win a proxy war with Russia in Ukraine

i.e. After being the cause of the whole destabilization, and the main financial supporter of Nazionists Radicals, the goal now is to stir up as much sh** as possible knowing full well they can't win anyway, and cause as much death and suffering and damage to property (in someone elses country) by being the biggest a**holes. Oh, and why not rack up a few account receivables selling arms to Kiev... (What's that saying? Be all that you can be!)

Are we witnessing the breakdown of the paper thin veneer between reality and PR spin before our very eyes?

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