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yelik
16th February 2015, 10:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dda-0Q_XUhk


These newspaper reports demonstrate how the Illuminati / Zionist Cabal / Rothschild’s Banking Cartel plan decades ahead to manipulate the masses and change / distort history

This video is now BANNED in France, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Netherlands, Poland, Martinique, Czech Republic, Mayotte, Israel, Reunion, French Guiana, French Polynesia, French Southern Territories, Saint Pierre and Miquelon,, New Caledonia, Guadeloupe,, Wallis and Futuna. And the list continues to grow.

And just why is it banned?
Because it proves, beyond any reasonable doubt, that the expression “six million Jews in peril” has been in regular currency — created, circulated, and sustained by the Zionist media from as far back as 1915.

Say what?
Yes, 1915 — I.e., long before WWII and the “Holocaust®”
This is how the media shapes your mind. I would urge you to download and archive this video. Even though it’s received over 175,000 views, it will not stay up for much longer on YouTube.

Also in the 4th Report of The New York Times dated November the 12th 1919 it mentions “ Felix M Warburgh", Chairman of joint Distribution Committee of American Funds for Jewry War Sufferers

In 1920’s Adolf Hitler rise to power – Funded & handled through the Warburg-controlled Mendelssohn Bank of Amsterdam & later by Henry Schroeder Bank based in Frankfurt, London & New York (Non dare Call it a Conspiracy by Gary Allen – free kindle download on Amazon)

Is this just all a coincidence ?

Carmody
16th February 2015, 14:24
I generally don't involve myself in these debates, but one point is critical to understand.

The 6 million is a requisite number in religious terms. As in: religious written prophecy, sacred religious text, word of god stuff, etc.

Not until the requisite 6 million are dead, can the Jewish folks who wish to do so... return to the ancestral homeland.

So..to create the 'homeland', the number had to be -must be- 6 million.

Which is why those involved are VERY insistent on the number being at 6 million and move hard against those who mess with that number, refute it or have issue with it..., as it was a critical created stepping stone in the fundamentals of the creation of 'Israel', as a country.

If you attempt to prove the number wrong, you mess with a critical component of their past game and thus call into religious question, all that surrounded it and all that followed.

yelik
16th February 2015, 16:31
As you can see not many are prepared to mess with it. If you fear the cabal or do not challenge them it is the same as giving them your tacit support

Kindred
16th February 2015, 16:37
It must be noted that - somewhere - I downloaded the official Red Cross documentation of what they found after the war (WW2) was over... the Total number of deceased (in the camps) was a bit over 270,000 amongst all the camps... Everyone Combined. I've got to find that download.

This is not to suggest that this is a 'good thing'... just the same, it shows the level of deception we are dealing with. It is also to be noted that the majority had died of starvation.

In Unity, Peace and Love

A Voice from the Mountains
16th February 2015, 16:41
I've seen the same thing before, and yes, it is very apparent that not many people will want to talk about this, particularly if they are not very open to such possibilities to begin with. There's a quote by someone whose name I forget, to the extent of, "If you want to know who your rulers are, just look at who you're not allowed to criticize."

I read a lot of conspiracy theory stuff. I don't believe all of it, but I like to read up on a lot of things anyway. And this seems to be the biggest "sacred cow" there is. Not 9/11, not the idea that WW2 and WW1 were engineered in their entirety, nothing else I know of gets people as hot and heavy as this subject. And I really doubt anyone PA members were even alive when it supposedly happened.

yelik
16th February 2015, 17:00
I generally don't involve myself in these debates, but one point is critical to understand.

The 6 million is a requisite number in religious terms. As in: religious written prophecy, sacred religious text, word of god stuff, etc.

Not until the requisite 6 million are dead, can the Jewish folks who wish to do so... return to the ancestral homeland.

So..to create the 'homeland', the number had to be -must be- 6 million.

Which is why those involved are VERY insistent on the number being at 6 million and move hard against those who mess with that number, refute it or have issue with it..., as it was a critical created stepping stone in the fundamentals of the creation of 'Israel', as a country.

If you attempt to prove the number wrong, you mess with a critical component of their past game and thus call into religious question, all that surrounded it and all that followed.

Jewish prophecies in the Torah require that 6 million Jews must “vanish” before the state of Israel can be formed. “You shall return minus 6 million.” That’s why Tom Segev, an Israeli historian, declared that the “6 million” is an attempt to transform the Holocaust story into state religion. Those six million, according to prophecy, had to disappear in “burning ovens”, which the judicial version of the Holocaust now authenticates. As a matter of fact, Robert B. Goldmann writes: “. . . without the Holocaust, there would be no Jewish State.” A simple consequence: Given six million Jews gassed at Auschwitz who ended up in the “burning ovens” (the Greek word holocaust means burned offerings), therefore, the prophecies have now been “fulfilled” and Israel can become a “legitimate state”.

Rollo
16th February 2015, 17:52
This articles are great examples of pure perception of reality by Israeli leaders and it's hidden in plain sight agenda of terror goals for the future.

Perception - the act or faculty of perceiving, or apprehending by means of the senses or of the mind; cognition; understanding.

Word Origin and History for perception:
late 14c., "receiving, collection," from Latin perceptionem "perception, apprehension, a taking," from percipere "perceive".
First used in the more literal sense of the Latin word; in secondary sense, "the taking cognizance of," it is recorded in English from 1610s.
Meaning "intuitive or direct recognition of some innate quality" is from 1827.

Innate/inborn quality is it not what we are programmed to think about Jews as "chosen people".

6.000.000 is rather demonic figure.

chancy
16th February 2015, 18:42
Hello Everyone:
Some links to give more information
chancy

Ernst Christof Friedrich Zündel (born April 24, 1939)
Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_Z%C3%BCndel

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAsIAQw0oOs

Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbBWIx1AhAU


Frederick "Fred" A. Leuchter, Jr. (born c. 1943) is an author of forensic Holocaust denial material
Link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_A._Leuchter


Doug Christie on Crossfire in 1985
Link: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExOuYW03tvc

Cidersomerset
16th February 2015, 19:06
The top vid is interesting and suggests Jewish/press hysteria has gone on for all of
the 20th century and ties in with articles I posted about the creation of a Jewish
state within the former Ottoman province of Palestine newly mandated to the
British empire.By the Balfour declaration in 1917 . The six million figure seems to
be a ball park figure , possibly to do with what Carmody suggests in his post
above ? . But there is no doubt millions of jews did die in a variety of
horrible ways from the invasion of Poland 1939 to the liberation of the
concentration camps in 1944/45.Along with millions of other civilians and soldiers
from scores of countries and ethnic groups.

There are many threads on this , and David Irvine although disagrees with some
conventional history especially the gas chamber question. Agrees millions of jews
were murdered in the invasion of Eastern Europe along with other ethnic groups.

This is an interesting discussion about free speech and the right for everyone to
read the same material that the scholars dig up without censorship. Chris Hitchins
defends the right of David Irvines and others to publish their work even if you do
not believe them. Of course this can be turned around that ' government
propaganda' is valid , so the debate and sources should always be questioned
periodically however touchy the subject,and the truth will usually but not always as
many of the subjects we discuss here are taboo, will hopefully eventually out........


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Olaf
16th February 2015, 19:09
The video in the first post shows that the number of Jewish people in Europe was considered to be about 6 million from 1915...1938.
I see no conflict with the claim, that almost all of that European Jewish people (6 millions) were killed in WW II. Both numbers refer to the same group of people.

But what really struck me is that this video indeed is blocked to be viewed from Germany. That tells me that the powers that be have something to hide.
Of course there are several versions and copies on youtube, that are not blocked.

Even if the number of Jewish people that were murdered would be much smaller - 60 millions of murdered people in WWII is an incredible tragedy. Each single death is a tragedy. In my work as a therapist I permanently have to deal with the impact that this tragedy had on families here in Germany. Both of my grandfathers also died in the war.

Cidersomerset
16th February 2015, 20:09
I've just re listened to this important BBC interview with David Irvine from 2000....

Two important admissions from David aprox 3 mins 30 secs in when he
says there is no doubt millions of jews were shot and on the eastern front
we have plenty of documentation for that. The other is aprox 18 mins 40
secs in when he says there is no doubt tens if not hundreds of thousands
died at Auschwitz from various causes.

The interview as a whole is quite aggressive and David Irvine tries to
get his point across that although a holocaust happened it is up
for debate about the true facts and details and the fact if you discuss
it you are a holocaust denier.

The problem as I see it as time goes on the truth will become myth
and the many massacres that have happened thru out recorded
sources from all over the world get consigned to the pages of history
only to be repeated again as is happening in the Middle East
and Ukraine today......

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yelik
16th February 2015, 20:16
I agree Cidersomerset. The other thing is that the Illuminati / Cabal are decades ahead of us with their plans. But the internet is allowing us to catch up, hence the censorship coming our way once they link the next false flag to social media

Cidersomerset
16th February 2015, 20:24
I agree Cidersomerset. The other thing is that the Illuminati / Cabal are decades ahead of us with their plans. But the internet is allowing us to catch up, hence the censorship coming our way once they link the next false flag to social media

I agree 'Problem Reaction Solution ' has been going on for a very long time
the problem is getting bogged down. We all know that truth was written
by the victors so much of history could be revised , and the holocaust
has been used by Israel for sympathy and support and its ironic and
wicked what they did in the West Bank last year . But millions
including many jews were murdered during WW11. Its now the
muslims & Africans that have been suffering over the past 70 years or
so,as many in South East Asia , South America, China and the Soviet
Union before them.

Yes the web has been great for getting to the truth , that's why it is being
targeted by the cabal as it is the biggest threat to exposing them so far...

Deega
16th February 2015, 20:44
It must be noted that - somewhere - I downloaded the official Red Cross documentation of what they found after the war (WW2) was over... the Total number of deceased (in the camps) was a bit over 270,000 amongst all the camps... Everyone Combined. I've got to find that download.

This is not to suggest that this is a 'good thing'... just the same, it shows the level of deception we are dealing with. It is also to be noted that the majority had died of starvation.

In Unity, Peace and Love

Hi Kindred, here's the link you were looking for.

The best to you!

I tried to attach it under "YouTube Icon", but the link didn't work, so here the written link.

http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-cross-expose-jewish-holocaust-hoax/

chancy
16th February 2015, 21:45
It must be noted that - somewhere - I downloaded the official Red Cross documentation of what they found after the war (WW2) was over... the Total number of deceased (in the camps) was a bit over 270,000 amongst all the camps... Everyone Combined. I've got to find that download.

This is not to suggest that this is a 'good thing'... just the same, it shows the level of deception we are dealing with. It is also to be noted that the majority had died of starvation.

In Unity, Peace and Love

Hi Kindred, here's the link you were looking for.

The best to you!

I tried to attach it under "YouTube Icon", but the link didn't work, so here the written link.

http://truedemocracyparty.net/2012/06/red-cross-expose-jewish-holocaust-hoax/

Hello Deega and everyone:
Here is the link to the video you gave us the url to.
chancy

Link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPc899uUb-A

kemo
17th February 2015, 09:04
If you think this Youtibe vid prooves anything at all then your standard of proof is sadly lacking. The 6 million figure was compiled from records existing at the time, the Germans shot a million or so which is carefully documented. Wasn't all gas chambers.

We've just had the 70th anniversary of the Hollocaust and this is important because most of the people who lived through it - usually chidren at the time - and can give eyewitness accounts won't be around much longer.

It's pretty simple really, there were six million jews in Germany before the war and not very many afterwards. I don't need to know the precise figure to count this as a grave crime against humanity.

However, while I don't dispute the right to question and reason for one's self, most of those who do so rely upon quack vids and books by people like Irving who have their own agenda and lying beneath that are some very ugly emotions.Why are you arguing this issue? I just see more spreading of hatred and venom.

I've never been a violent person but if I ever meet a holocaust denier in the flesh, my right hook might suddenly find a life of its own.

Cidersomerset
17th February 2015, 20:02
This is related to the debate , where as I think millions of all religions
and non religious people were murdered during WW11 .The gas chamber
debate is a valid question ? Were there functioning gas chambers in
use at Auschwitz ? I think there probably were , but it would be nice
for the evidence to be more clear and uncontroversial.

If not millions of Jews were still shot, hung, beaten, burnt , buried alive, starved,
worked,and died of disease , in some horrific events during the WW11 as well
as other ethnic groups, lets not forget that.

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Je Suis Charlie? – Holocaust skeptic sentenced to two years prison in France

Tuesday 17th February 2015 at 07:25 By David Icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/get-attachment-615-587x330.jpg


‘In light of all the ‘Je Suis Charlie’ free speech hoopla, the French regime just
confirmed their fraudulent stance on the issue by sentencing a man, Vincent
Reynouard, to two years in jail for his non-violent historical opinions
concerning the ‘Holocaust.’

The ‘free speech’ sham continues in the Talmudic Republic of France.’

Read more: Je Suis Charlie? – Holocaust skeptic sentenced to two years prison in France

http://nonalignedmedia.com/2015/02/holocaust-skeptic-sentenced-two-years-prison-france/

Cidersomerset
17th February 2015, 20:14
I can understand the scepticism of many on here and if you see
all the horrific public displays by ISIS its designed to make you angry.
( This makes absolutely no sense to muslims or their cause imo )
Classic propaganda straight out of the Thrid Reich, It was used by
the Popes to justify the crusades and many other events to rally
the troops and get an otherwise peaceful public to follow a cause...
http://www.davidicke.com/images/stories/Juanuary201395/4939422_orig.jpg


It Just feeds into the hands of the PTB media machine. In all wars from
Biblical times onwards there have been atrocities and massacres
of whole cities and tribes. For me many topics are interrelated and
I see history repeating itself again and again......Which beggars the
question who is manipulating all this ? Which is what most of us
are here asking and feel there are bigger forces than any current control
system at present it seems like the 'Banksters' , mil in complex and
other corporate interests. But who is behind them ? I expect many leaders
have lied and cheated to manipulate their populations , but today its clearer
than ever....


http://www.bigfishink.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/a-quotes-propaganda.jpg


Hillary realised this a few years ago and wanted more cash for the propaganda
war...This could also be linked to attacks on alternate web sites and these ISIS
propaganda vids popping up , sa a repeat to fake Bin Laden ones a decade ago.
Again history repeats itself over and over again at varying intervals but the same
old 'Problem Reaction Solutions' keep popping up leading toward David Ickes other
great saying 'The Totalitarian Tip toe'.....

Hillary actually says pointing towards Russia and China that we thought we won
the propaganda war during the cold war, and probably thinking since then we have
been busy blowing up Americans and muslims we have taken our eye off the
commies , and they are now playing us at our own game !!

Clinton asks for cash as US 'losing world info war'

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Uploaded on 3 Mar 2011


The U.S. is losing an information war to alternative media outlets, including RT.
That's the message from Hillary Clinton to Congress members, who are questioning
the State Department's US $47 billion budget request for next year. And as RT's
Gayane Chichakyan reports, the U.S. Secretary of State says Washington needs to
step up its propaganda efforts.



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Unlimited War! ISIS Psyop Theater Comes to Full Fruition

Tuesday 17th February 2015 at 10:41 By David Icke


http://www.davidicke.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/get-attachment-1081-587x439.jpg



THE ACTIVIST POST............


The CIA and the U.S. Military Industrial Complex have now invested over 6 months of
ISIS branding, promotion, and public relations. It was revealed by early January of
2015 that the U.S. had already dumped over one billion dollars to fight ISIS. All
supposedly invested in failed air strikes and un-televised secret battles against ISIS
where the U.S. ends up attacking Syrian targets instead.

‘The ISIS psyop has been worked on so hard by the architects of the plan that now
we are seeing the final desired political goals of the entire operation – an operation
which has become more of a global theater. The ISIS psyop theater is now coming
to fruition and the globalists are speaking loud and clear about what they want,
which is really an admission to why they concocted the ISIS psyop to begin with.

They want the authorization to use “unlimited” military “force” wherever they want,
whenever they want and (of course) on WHO-ever they want to use it on. Isn’t this a
tyrannical empire’s dream come true? And with this revelation the romance between
ISIS and CIA/US/Israel and the other NATO ISIS partners is now fully exposed to
anyone willing to see it for what it is.’

Read more: Unlimited War! ISIS Psyop Theater Comes to Full Fruition

http://www.activistpost.com/2015/02/unlimited-war-isis-psyop-theater-comes.html

A Voice from the Mountains
17th February 2015, 20:32
It's pretty simple really, there were six million jews in Germany before the war and not very many afterwards. I don't need to know the precise figure to count this as a grave crime against humanity.

There is a saying you may have heard, "the devil is in the details." I have no doubt Jews died. I also have no doubt that Stalin killed more people overall than Hitler did, and this is a widely-accepted fact by historians. The Holocaust has become particularly politicized to the point where when people think of WW2, the Holocaust comes to mind before Stalin's atrocities. And no land was taken from uninvolved people to make a new country for the survivors of Stalin's purges. Of course that would have only made things worse. So this all becomes a very interesting situation.

You are a Project Avalon member for a reason I would suppose. So just take all of this into account and forget everything you've ever been told by other people. Just start from a blank slate and just think for yourself. There is something wrong with this picture. It's pretty obvious to a lot of people, but only when certain prejudices have been dropped. Reverse-psychology can be used to create prejudices as well, you know.



I've never been a violent person but if I ever meet a holocaust denier in the flesh, my right hook might suddenly find a life of its own.

If everyone was like that, we could have another Holocaust or two by tomorrow. Too much violent emotion is not particularly honorable or useful for anything. Not to mention you might try your right hook on the wrong person. :P

Sierra
28th May 2015, 18:41
From wiki: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Holocaust_denial#International_Committee_of_the_Red_Cross

International Committee of the Red Cross
Holocaust deniers misrepresent and omit information contained in ICRC reports that contradict their claims.[76] Critics argue that Richard Harwood in his "Did Six Million Really Die?" pamphlet could only claim that the ICRC had found no evidence of a policy to exterminate Jews by ignoring key sections of the 1948 report, where the ICRC explicitly states that the systematic extermination of Jews was Nazi policy.[77]

Harwood disputed the notion that homicidal gas chambers were disguised as shower facilities by citing references in the report where ICRC officials inspected bathing facilities. He used their responses to argue that showers functioned as showers and were not part of a killing installation. However this is considered misrepresentation by critics, as the passage Harwood cited is in reference to Allied camps for civilians in Egypt and thus had nothing to do with Nazi concentration camps.[78]


A letter from the Bad Arolsen International Tracing Service regarding only registered deaths at Nazi concentration camps. This and similar correspondence is frequently misrepresented as the absolute death toll of the Holocaust by deniers.
Harwood also claimed that Die Tat, a Swiss tabloid newspaper, published statistics that concluded the number of people who died in Nazi prisons and camps from 1939 to 1945 based on ICRC statistics was "300,000, not all of whom were Jews".[79] The January 19, 1955 edition of Die Tat did indeed give a 300,000 figure, but this was only in reference to "Germans and German Jews" and not nationals of other countries.[80] In a 1979 response to this pamphlet, the ICRC said that they have "never tried to compile statistics on the victims of the war",[81] nor "certified the accuracy of the statistics produced by a third party",[81] and state that the authors of such material have "falsified" both claims that the document originates from the ICRC and refers exclusively to Jews.[81]

As well as in personal correspondence, the ICRC has also addressed this misrepresentation by several other means. In 1975, the ICRC wrote to the Board of Deputies of British Jews in London regarding Harwood's citations, stating:

The figures cited by the author of the booklet are based upon statistics falsely attributed to us, evidently for the purpose of giving them credibility, despite the fact that we never publish information of this kind.[82]

—Françoise Perret, Comité International de la Croix-Rouge, to Jacob Gerwitz, August 22, 1975.
In the 1978 official bulletin, the agency stated that its mission was to "help victims not count them",[83] and questioned how they would have even been able to obtain such statistics had they wanted to, given that they were "only able to enter only a few concentration camps...in the final days of the war".[83] The agency states that the figures used are "the number of deaths recorded by the International Tracing Service on the basis of documents found when the camps were closed",[83] and accordingly bear no relation to the total death tolls, since the Nazis destroyed much documentation, and that many deaths occurred in camps where prisoners were generally not registered.[83] The ICRC considers this misrepresentation as "propaganda",[83] and because these claims regarding the ICRC were used for the defense of Ernst Zündel at his trial in 1985, critics state that despite the agency's attempts to demonstrate the truth, Holocaust deniers have continued to rely on ICRC based disinformation.[80] Archives of the International Tracing Service (located in Bad Arolsen) responding to such misrepresentation can be found here.[84]

Baseler NachrichtenEdit
Similarly, Harwood wrote that the June 4, 1946 edition of Baseler Nachrichten, another Swiss newspaper, reported that “a maximum of only one and a half million Jews could be numbered as casualties.[85] Harwood fails to mention that a later article in a later edition of the newspaper acknowledges that the previous article was incorrect, and 5,800,000 was an accurate number of victims.[86] Critics cite this as an example of deniers using partial information to distort legitimate sources.[87]