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Dispelling Internet Disinformation Tactics – Debunking the Debunkers
January 27, 2014
By Rebel Siren – January 22, 2014
Internet TROLLS, also known as paid “forum posters”, “internet bloggers,” or if we call them what they really are, SHILLS, are increasingly being employed by private corporations and contracted agencies, sometimes for marketing purposes, but mostly to distract from the truth and prevent public outcry about dangerous programs such as geoengineering, genetically modified foods, and any issue where profiteers put their bottom line and lust for control over the destruction of the planet and at the expense of our health. Trolls are employees that answered a work at home job ad on craigslist or some other venue.
The geoengineering trolls, specifically, are employed by the two main disinformation sites, metaxxxx and contrailxxxxxxx, both run by a gaming programmer.
He and his band of hired internet trolls lack expertise in science, meteorology or any other field related to geoengineering, yet claim to be experts in atmospheric science, and fancy themselves “debunkers”. Shillidiocy is a term that best describes the rapidly growing industry of people ready and willing to sell out humanity for a few pennies per comment. Disinformation has been used throughout history for political purposes and these strategies are being utilized today by these paid internet trolls.
1 – CHARACTER ASSASSINATION
(Psychological Warfare – discredit, distract, intimidate, frustrate, divide & conquer) – Disinformation shills often make outrageous comments for the sole purpose of deflecting focus from the truth to distract us by creating a “controversial debate” where none truly exists. Often, trolls use the “Trojan Horse” method to attempt to elicit an emotional response from people online, to evoke hostility with the intent of twisting it around to make the person look volatile, a classic “character assassination” tactic to discredit them, making them appear weak. On some occasions, they intentionally keep pushing a person into a heated argument, and will go so far as to “report” the person as being a “threat” to try to get them kicked off of the forum. Another major character assassination tactic is to highlight any negative or perceived flaw of an otherwise reputable person, whether true or false, to intentionally discredit them in an attempt to invalidate their viewpoint and make them seem baseless, to detract focus from the information they are sharing. The trolls often “make stuff up” if they can’t find anything real to highlight for this goal, after all, shills are paid liars. Another trick these liars are taught is to use semantics to twist people’s words around and make it seem as though they’ve lied, to discredit them. These are all character assassination tactics that you will easily recognize happening all over the internet once you become familiar with them.
2 – DEMANDING IMPOSSIBLE PROOF
Disinformation shills sometimes pose as a supporter of the truth, or “friendly folks on the fence” politely asking simple questions, in a sly attempt to later discredit the movement. Often trolls posing as friendly allies will resort to posting long, incoherent diatribes (usually on fake blogs & articles) for the purpose of associating the movement with insanity; or other times to act as a “the voice of reason” and create a debate (where none exists) to make it appear as though the data isn’t strong enough, and they offer to play “devil’s advocate” to “help the movement”, then render any and all data as invalid regardless of how legitimate the source. They will “demand proof” then ignore it when it’s presented, or continue to demand impossible proofs. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, they will deem the material irrelevant and demand unattainable proof that is virtually impossible for the opponent to retrieve; for the purpose of detracting focus from the mounds of legitimate data available for those of us that take the time to do some real research beyond the disinformation site links.
3 – DOMINATE THE THREAD
Trolls often interject themselves into productive web discussions in order to make themselves appear credible as though they have a “real” argument, where none actually exists. Their job is to create controversy and instigate a “debate”. They scour the net and attack awareness videos, articles, blogs, public facebook pages, etc., posting links from metaxxxx or conxxxxxscience, but fail to post legitimate links with verifiable references. They relentlessly keep commenting on a thread to dominate the discussion with the intent to keep their comments at the very top. They also vote their comments up and everyone else’s comments down, (if the forum offers that feature). This is evident when you become familiar with their methods. I have yet to see a disinformation shill post a reputable link, or ANY link, other than from those two disinformation sites. In addition, they adamantly refuse to look at real data. They intentionally divert attention from credible documentation, dismissing it without examination. They regurgitate the same tired harassing insults, and repetitive generic jargon about how water vapor condensation trails are formed, which has nothing to do with the persistent, spreading, lingering trails we often see covering the sky that is being done as “scientific research”, the prelude to fully implementing global geoengineering programs.
4 – PRE-WRITTEN SCRIPTED RESPONSES (cut & paste comments)
Trolls are supplied with a list or database with preplanned talking points and a format designed as generalized and deceptive responses to honest arguments. Geoengineering (chemtrails) “debunker” trolls are notorious for this, and note they never actually “debunk” anything. All they do is deflect from the truth to try to cast doubt and keep the denial tactic going so the profiteers of geoengineering can continue to suppress public outcry in order to keep spraying us without us balking and rising up to stop them. If you pay close attention and track the trolls, you will see that they often post the same comments over and over on many different threads.
5 – FALSE ASSOCIATION
This works hand in hand with #1 (character assassination), and the “Trojan Horse” troll. The goal is to sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule, engaging them in a hostile argument to try to discredit them, also known as the “attack the messenger” ploy. The goal of “false association” is to associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “paranoid conspiracy theorist” to make them look crazy and try to discredit them, or call them derogatory names such as “chemtard”, “ignorant”, or “liar”, attempting to invalidate anything they say regardless of how true it is. The trolls seek to deliberately associate the movement with far fetched concepts like “Big Foot”, aliens, false flag conspiracy theories, etc., because of the inherent negative connotations, (tying in with “character assassination”). The ultimate goal is to provoke argument, create biases, and dissuade people from objectively examining any evidence presented.
6 – FALSE MODERATION
Pretending to be the “voice of reason” in an argument with obvious and defined sides in an attempt to move people away from what is clearly true, into the murky waters of “doubt” where the truth becomes “relative.” And if that doesn’t work they will antagonize and goad opponents with insults, name calling, and bullying. If they can’t do anything else, they will chide and taunt their opponents and draw them into emotional responses with the goal of making them look foolish or mentally unbalanced, in hopes of rendering their point invalid merely by shifting focus to show how “sensitive they are to criticism”, in an attempt to deflect from their point and invalidate any data they are presenting. This is why it’s best to ignore their taunting.
7 – STRAW MAN and “AD HOMINEM” ARGUMENTS
A very common technique is that the troll will accuse his opposition of subscribing to a certain point of view, even if he does not, will make it appear so, then attack that point of view (Straw Man). Or, the troll will put words in the mouth of his opposition, and then rebut those specific words. He will use conjecture, ridicule, and accusation to try and prove himself as valid while discrediting others with absolutely nothing, shouting “you have no argument, that is just ad hominem”, which is ironically, exactly what he is doing. The troll is trained to appear confident, unwavering, and that he is undoubtedly right, when in reality, it’s the exact opposite. Basically, he is a paid liar and his goal is to create doubt and discredit the truth.
8 – POSING LEADING QUESTIONS and “PLAYING NICE”
When the internet shill realizes people are aware of his tactics, he will try to play nice, act innocent, and pose a seemingly “harmless” leading question.
William01702, used tactic #s 6, 8, and 2 to troll the video (link below) of the courageous Kristen Meghan, who stands strong to do what is right in the face of adversity to warn people about geoengineering and the disinformation sites. If you watch the video and listen to her, it is clear what is happening with the rampant disinformation in our mainstream; PAID shills are ready and willing to contribute to the demise of our world, and sell out their humanity to perpetuate lies for a measly buck. The shill “Hama Neggs” also trolled it with some derogatory comments about Kristen Meghan using #1 (character assassination). These troll’s comments may, or may not, get deleted by the page moderator; but if they remain, notice the date and how quickly they found it. It’s their job to scour the net and attack, so in time, even if theirs get deleted, more paid trolls will appear. If you check other awareness videos, you’ll see the same usernames in action repetitively. Save LI Forum – 09 - Kristen Meghan – Geo-engineering
The following bold, italic quotes are actual troll comments made by username William01702 who is known to routinely attack youtube geoengineering awareness videos.
William01702 (troll):
“Could you please tell me what “disinformation” you have found on Metabunk or contrailscience? I mean, you claim the information isn’t factual, and then provide no evidence to support such a claim. Why?”… “It really is a legitimate question which deserves an answer. Despite what paranoid liars like GalileoGalileisGhost say.”
(If William01702 was just a random viewer, why would he care whether those sites have been exposed as disinformation, and “demand proof”, unless he IS an associate (a paid shill)? The answer becomes evident if you notice how he followed with the classic “false association” & “Trojan Horse” tactic to disparage shill buster, GalileoGalileisGhost. Would a random user that’s not associated with those disinformation sites have cause to do this)?
William01702 – on a different thread: (note the contrast when confronted for his shill activity):
“ I’m not a troll I’m just someone who is better educated in atmospheric science and aviation than all chemtards, combined.”
(notice his derogatory use of the word “CHEMTARDS” a classic Trojan Horse move).
William01702:
“Chemtards couldn’t be more stupid if they wanted to be. You people are evil alarmists who spread fear, hate, and ignorance based on a lack of education. I pity the chemtards!”
(does that sound like someone educated in atmospheric sciences or anything else for that matter)?
William01702 wrote this on an entirely different thread:
“Oh really and where do they say that THIS trail has ANYTHING to do with what they have “admitted to”. NO WHERE! It’s hilarious that you people read about some basic testing and then assume everything you see in the sky must be related to such testing. Chemtards are idiots! Oh, and BTW show me where anyone has admitted to any such thing! If you say HR2977 you’re a ****ing moron!”
William01702 wrote this on yet another thread (verbatim, spelling errors & all):
“Tat should have read “because you are too stupid and lazy to understand basic ****ing science”. But, does it matter?! Will it change anything?! No, you will always assume that just because you hate/fear the government that it must mean that you and your chemtard friends must be right about the trails in the sky. Nevermind the fact that you have never actually studed these subjects! You have visited conspiracy sites! You know it all real pilots are just STUPID for going to school for years!”
William01702 on yet another thread:
“Poor chemtards unable to understand he difference between an intentional nefarious release of chemicals and business as usual”.
William01702 and yet another thread:
“Why do you people pretend to understand that minor differences in temperature, engine power settings, engine types, and engine size can result in differences in trails, when its obvious that you are all ****ing clueless!!! This video isn’t evidence of anything more than the ignorance of chemtards”!
William01702 on a video about chemical fallout from geoengineering (notice the pattern from the previous comments):
“Yup, I’m sure that she is a moron. And so are you. There is ZERO evidence that this “affliction” has ANYTHING to do with the trails in the sky. NONE! It’s nothing more than paranoid fantasy made up by those who like to pick at their skin. And you are right, she IS just one moron in a line of many. By the way accepting ignorant bull**** from OTHER paranoid losers on the internet is NOT “research”.”
William01702 wrote these comments on various videos as well:
“Stupid chemtards”, “Idiot”, “Moron”, AND “that is technology that is not only public knowledge, but is highly regulated. It also has nothing to do with any trails in the sky. That’s the problem with you people. You are completely ignorant but are too stupid to know it”!
January 27, 2014
By Rebel Siren – January 22, 2014
Internet TROLLS, also known as paid “forum posters”, “internet bloggers,” or if we call them what they really are, SHILLS, are increasingly being employed by private corporations and contracted agencies, sometimes for marketing purposes, but mostly to distract from the truth and prevent public outcry about dangerous programs such as geoengineering, genetically modified foods, and any issue where profiteers put their bottom line and lust for control over the destruction of the planet and at the expense of our health. Trolls are employees that answered a work at home job ad on craigslist or some other venue.
The geoengineering trolls, specifically, are employed by the two main disinformation sites, metaxxxx and contrailxxxxxxx, both run by a gaming programmer.
He and his band of hired internet trolls lack expertise in science, meteorology or any other field related to geoengineering, yet claim to be experts in atmospheric science, and fancy themselves “debunkers”. Shillidiocy is a term that best describes the rapidly growing industry of people ready and willing to sell out humanity for a few pennies per comment. Disinformation has been used throughout history for political purposes and these strategies are being utilized today by these paid internet trolls.
1 – CHARACTER ASSASSINATION
(Psychological Warfare – discredit, distract, intimidate, frustrate, divide & conquer) – Disinformation shills often make outrageous comments for the sole purpose of deflecting focus from the truth to distract us by creating a “controversial debate” where none truly exists. Often, trolls use the “Trojan Horse” method to attempt to elicit an emotional response from people online, to evoke hostility with the intent of twisting it around to make the person look volatile, a classic “character assassination” tactic to discredit them, making them appear weak. On some occasions, they intentionally keep pushing a person into a heated argument, and will go so far as to “report” the person as being a “threat” to try to get them kicked off of the forum. Another major character assassination tactic is to highlight any negative or perceived flaw of an otherwise reputable person, whether true or false, to intentionally discredit them in an attempt to invalidate their viewpoint and make them seem baseless, to detract focus from the information they are sharing. The trolls often “make stuff up” if they can’t find anything real to highlight for this goal, after all, shills are paid liars. Another trick these liars are taught is to use semantics to twist people’s words around and make it seem as though they’ve lied, to discredit them. These are all character assassination tactics that you will easily recognize happening all over the internet once you become familiar with them.
2 – DEMANDING IMPOSSIBLE PROOF
Disinformation shills sometimes pose as a supporter of the truth, or “friendly folks on the fence” politely asking simple questions, in a sly attempt to later discredit the movement. Often trolls posing as friendly allies will resort to posting long, incoherent diatribes (usually on fake blogs & articles) for the purpose of associating the movement with insanity; or other times to act as a “the voice of reason” and create a debate (where none exists) to make it appear as though the data isn’t strong enough, and they offer to play “devil’s advocate” to “help the movement”, then render any and all data as invalid regardless of how legitimate the source. They will “demand proof” then ignore it when it’s presented, or continue to demand impossible proofs. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, they will deem the material irrelevant and demand unattainable proof that is virtually impossible for the opponent to retrieve; for the purpose of detracting focus from the mounds of legitimate data available for those of us that take the time to do some real research beyond the disinformation site links.
3 – DOMINATE THE THREAD
Trolls often interject themselves into productive web discussions in order to make themselves appear credible as though they have a “real” argument, where none actually exists. Their job is to create controversy and instigate a “debate”. They scour the net and attack awareness videos, articles, blogs, public facebook pages, etc., posting links from metaxxxx or conxxxxxscience, but fail to post legitimate links with verifiable references. They relentlessly keep commenting on a thread to dominate the discussion with the intent to keep their comments at the very top. They also vote their comments up and everyone else’s comments down, (if the forum offers that feature). This is evident when you become familiar with their methods. I have yet to see a disinformation shill post a reputable link, or ANY link, other than from those two disinformation sites. In addition, they adamantly refuse to look at real data. They intentionally divert attention from credible documentation, dismissing it without examination. They regurgitate the same tired harassing insults, and repetitive generic jargon about how water vapor condensation trails are formed, which has nothing to do with the persistent, spreading, lingering trails we often see covering the sky that is being done as “scientific research”, the prelude to fully implementing global geoengineering programs.
4 – PRE-WRITTEN SCRIPTED RESPONSES (cut & paste comments)
Trolls are supplied with a list or database with preplanned talking points and a format designed as generalized and deceptive responses to honest arguments. Geoengineering (chemtrails) “debunker” trolls are notorious for this, and note they never actually “debunk” anything. All they do is deflect from the truth to try to cast doubt and keep the denial tactic going so the profiteers of geoengineering can continue to suppress public outcry in order to keep spraying us without us balking and rising up to stop them. If you pay close attention and track the trolls, you will see that they often post the same comments over and over on many different threads.
5 – FALSE ASSOCIATION
This works hand in hand with #1 (character assassination), and the “Trojan Horse” troll. The goal is to sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule, engaging them in a hostile argument to try to discredit them, also known as the “attack the messenger” ploy. The goal of “false association” is to associate opponents with unpopular titles such as “paranoid conspiracy theorist” to make them look crazy and try to discredit them, or call them derogatory names such as “chemtard”, “ignorant”, or “liar”, attempting to invalidate anything they say regardless of how true it is. The trolls seek to deliberately associate the movement with far fetched concepts like “Big Foot”, aliens, false flag conspiracy theories, etc., because of the inherent negative connotations, (tying in with “character assassination”). The ultimate goal is to provoke argument, create biases, and dissuade people from objectively examining any evidence presented.
6 – FALSE MODERATION
Pretending to be the “voice of reason” in an argument with obvious and defined sides in an attempt to move people away from what is clearly true, into the murky waters of “doubt” where the truth becomes “relative.” And if that doesn’t work they will antagonize and goad opponents with insults, name calling, and bullying. If they can’t do anything else, they will chide and taunt their opponents and draw them into emotional responses with the goal of making them look foolish or mentally unbalanced, in hopes of rendering their point invalid merely by shifting focus to show how “sensitive they are to criticism”, in an attempt to deflect from their point and invalidate any data they are presenting. This is why it’s best to ignore their taunting.
7 – STRAW MAN and “AD HOMINEM” ARGUMENTS
A very common technique is that the troll will accuse his opposition of subscribing to a certain point of view, even if he does not, will make it appear so, then attack that point of view (Straw Man). Or, the troll will put words in the mouth of his opposition, and then rebut those specific words. He will use conjecture, ridicule, and accusation to try and prove himself as valid while discrediting others with absolutely nothing, shouting “you have no argument, that is just ad hominem”, which is ironically, exactly what he is doing. The troll is trained to appear confident, unwavering, and that he is undoubtedly right, when in reality, it’s the exact opposite. Basically, he is a paid liar and his goal is to create doubt and discredit the truth.
8 – POSING LEADING QUESTIONS and “PLAYING NICE”
When the internet shill realizes people are aware of his tactics, he will try to play nice, act innocent, and pose a seemingly “harmless” leading question.
William01702, used tactic #s 6, 8, and 2 to troll the video (link below) of the courageous Kristen Meghan, who stands strong to do what is right in the face of adversity to warn people about geoengineering and the disinformation sites. If you watch the video and listen to her, it is clear what is happening with the rampant disinformation in our mainstream; PAID shills are ready and willing to contribute to the demise of our world, and sell out their humanity to perpetuate lies for a measly buck. The shill “Hama Neggs” also trolled it with some derogatory comments about Kristen Meghan using #1 (character assassination). These troll’s comments may, or may not, get deleted by the page moderator; but if they remain, notice the date and how quickly they found it. It’s their job to scour the net and attack, so in time, even if theirs get deleted, more paid trolls will appear. If you check other awareness videos, you’ll see the same usernames in action repetitively. Save LI Forum – 09 - Kristen Meghan – Geo-engineering
The following bold, italic quotes are actual troll comments made by username William01702 who is known to routinely attack youtube geoengineering awareness videos.
William01702 (troll):
“Could you please tell me what “disinformation” you have found on Metabunk or contrailscience? I mean, you claim the information isn’t factual, and then provide no evidence to support such a claim. Why?”… “It really is a legitimate question which deserves an answer. Despite what paranoid liars like GalileoGalileisGhost say.”
(If William01702 was just a random viewer, why would he care whether those sites have been exposed as disinformation, and “demand proof”, unless he IS an associate (a paid shill)? The answer becomes evident if you notice how he followed with the classic “false association” & “Trojan Horse” tactic to disparage shill buster, GalileoGalileisGhost. Would a random user that’s not associated with those disinformation sites have cause to do this)?
William01702 – on a different thread: (note the contrast when confronted for his shill activity):
“ I’m not a troll I’m just someone who is better educated in atmospheric science and aviation than all chemtards, combined.”
(notice his derogatory use of the word “CHEMTARDS” a classic Trojan Horse move).
William01702:
“Chemtards couldn’t be more stupid if they wanted to be. You people are evil alarmists who spread fear, hate, and ignorance based on a lack of education. I pity the chemtards!”
(does that sound like someone educated in atmospheric sciences or anything else for that matter)?
William01702 wrote this on an entirely different thread:
“Oh really and where do they say that THIS trail has ANYTHING to do with what they have “admitted to”. NO WHERE! It’s hilarious that you people read about some basic testing and then assume everything you see in the sky must be related to such testing. Chemtards are idiots! Oh, and BTW show me where anyone has admitted to any such thing! If you say HR2977 you’re a ****ing moron!”
William01702 wrote this on yet another thread (verbatim, spelling errors & all):
“Tat should have read “because you are too stupid and lazy to understand basic ****ing science”. But, does it matter?! Will it change anything?! No, you will always assume that just because you hate/fear the government that it must mean that you and your chemtard friends must be right about the trails in the sky. Nevermind the fact that you have never actually studed these subjects! You have visited conspiracy sites! You know it all real pilots are just STUPID for going to school for years!”
William01702 on yet another thread:
“Poor chemtards unable to understand he difference between an intentional nefarious release of chemicals and business as usual”.
William01702 and yet another thread:
“Why do you people pretend to understand that minor differences in temperature, engine power settings, engine types, and engine size can result in differences in trails, when its obvious that you are all ****ing clueless!!! This video isn’t evidence of anything more than the ignorance of chemtards”!
William01702 on a video about chemical fallout from geoengineering (notice the pattern from the previous comments):
“Yup, I’m sure that she is a moron. And so are you. There is ZERO evidence that this “affliction” has ANYTHING to do with the trails in the sky. NONE! It’s nothing more than paranoid fantasy made up by those who like to pick at their skin. And you are right, she IS just one moron in a line of many. By the way accepting ignorant bull**** from OTHER paranoid losers on the internet is NOT “research”.”
William01702 wrote these comments on various videos as well:
“Stupid chemtards”, “Idiot”, “Moron”, AND “that is technology that is not only public knowledge, but is highly regulated. It also has nothing to do with any trails in the sky. That’s the problem with you people. You are completely ignorant but are too stupid to know it”!