What's wrong with racial diversity?

[Maia Gabrial]

A friend from Sweden sent me the first video because of how his country is being ruined exactly this way. It used to be a very peaceful safe country. Now Swedish women are being gang raped, crime rates are very high and the politicians are cowards who are afraid of taking charge. Behind the scenes are the influences of an agenda to ruin everything. Sad....

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Then this one stood out because I have Native American family:

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Watch out. If you just happen to like the culture you're in, they'll call you racist.

Now that I think about it, it's more like destroying cultures more than races. NWO agenda crap means no one stands out more than another. Sure some races will be wiped out as long as everyone becomes the same. Individuality is already being targeted as a crime. Look at what happens to a free thinker....

Someday, when we finally get accepted into the galactic community, there's something that will not change no matter what happens on this world. Earth's humanity will STILL be multiracial and multicultural. Why would anyone want to change that? Someday, those will be the things to be proud of as the galactic community stands in awe of us. No matter how you look at it, we are a ONE WORLD of unique beings already.... Whites, blacks, natives, asians and hybrids.

Diversity is good...!

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Sometimes things change and we can't do anything about it.
Like chemistry, or entropy, things do change and we must cope with that.

My ancestors had to change or die.
When the Scottish evictions and the Irish potato famine happened, my ancestors got wise, or got dead.

Also the slaves in my background that my grandma alluded to,
the Native Americans, they had to change or die.


Some people refuse to change, they stand like the oak tree of fable and when the winds of change come,
they do not bend like the green grass, but snap like the rotten oak.


People need to realize when they are being too stubborn -- it's one thing to believe in something,
it's another to refuse to accept reality.


One of my great life's regrets will be that I did not independently observe and respect the cultures that contributed to my luck, being an American.
I didn't study my past. None of the great peoples who contributed to the big picture got credit from me.


It's only too late that people see the big picture and cast aside the petty small things they once identified with...
if you understand what I mean.


yeah the destruction of culture is terrible,
but seems like too little protest too late,
if these actual crimes were being carried out and under-reported,
how come so little protest until now,
and why on a racial basis?

we have packs of all types running the streets and in some countries these folks are white.
so not just arabic people running in packs in the streets but also white drunk kids,

jeez.


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Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame,
With conquering limbs astride from land to land;
Here at our sea-washed, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty woman with a torch, whose flame
Is the imprisoned lightning, and her name
Mother of Exiles. From her beacon-hand
Glows world-wide welcome; her mild eyes command
The air-bridged harbor that twin cities frame.

"Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!" cries she
With silent lips. "Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

[ZooLife]

Antiracism can be viewed as a culture of beliefs and within the parameters of a construct, over time, a race of thinking...per say.

Eventually, could you not view antiracism as racist to racism and visa versa?

It all appears to be the age old, divide and conquer ploy.

Divide a people by dilution and conquer is one way to do that, is it not?

[ghostrider]

there is a letter written by sitting bull posted at an Indian clinic , he had the same mind as we do here ... some of what he wrote - it is impossible to co-exist with the white man from across the ocean , he fences himself in from his neighbor , and his greed and lust for power is like a virus that cannot be cured ... one planet united with many cultures should be celebrated , when unity excludes diversity , it is no longer unity ... we can't all be the same , for we are different expressions of one creation looking for variance in all things ... No two suns are the same , no two galaxies are the exact same , no animal is exactly the same yet they are all animals ... nature is not exactly the same yet it is still nature , living in balance ... our finest example is found in nature/creation ...

[Pweeky]

Blimey! I think I've seen Hitler in Dagenham...

[BF88]

The problem people have with it is they are having this change forced on them and if they say anything to oppose it they are suddenly the worst people in the world and demonised by society (or the media more like). The problem generally is where the huge influx of peoples are coming from, we have had thousands of poles move here (small smelly industrial town in England) over the last 10 - 15 years and they are nice people and have settled in nicely and more or less get on with everyone else, something which the majority of people from Pakistan, Bangladesh etc haven't been able to do since they came in the 60's I think it was. Obviously it doesn't apply to everyone from each country. If you bring attention to the percentage of new comers committing crime and raping the locals your probably a racist.... Unfortunately this tactic by the media has been putting otherwise normal people into the 'racist box' and those people start conforming to that way of being, if this was their intention or not I couldn't say, I doubt it though. Either way it is definitely a divide and conquer tactic but one that is in my opinion going to backfire dramatically civil war or final solution style but I suppose that is the chaos they need to offer the order.

[christian]

Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKDeyuM0-Og

This is not available in Germany, I have to use TOR to watch it…

https://i.imgflip.com/hzedl.jpg

Anyways, I'm all for people traveling and settling freely and peacefully. If you like your culture and want to preserve it, live it. As long as you refrain from aggression against others, follow your bliss…

[Ellisa]

It's inevitable in a country with massive immigration programs that the cultures will merge and combine. My MIL was horrified to find I came from the UK. Her family arrived in Australia in the 1780s. Her grandchildren and great grandchildren include an array of people who were either 1st gen Aussies or were born elsewhere. We have a Slovak, a Dane, an Irish man, a Lebanese (muslim) woman who does not wear a hijab, though her mother does and an Italian. Also there is a person who has an Aboriginal heritage!

We all call ourselves Australian, because that is what we are.

[Gatita]

My family is pretty much British Isles gene pool, with a bit of French. Great-grandpa was born in Canada in 1846. I think his parents left Ireland because of the potato famine. On the other side of the family, my dad's generation was the first to be born in the United States. My daughter and grandchildren have Cherokee and Choctaw ancestry from my ex. We all seem to bleed red.

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[Kryztian]

The Hitler in Isreal video was clever and pointed out some interesting contradictions, but I think if confuses two very different issues:

1) Should state governments impose laws that favor certain ethnic, racial or religious groups while discriminating against others (as in Israel or Saudi Arabia and many other countries that have official religions)?

2) Should state governments impose laws, create programs and incentives, to cause people to inter marry, settle in different neighborhoods to create diversity, learn and practice customs of other cultures and religions?

The assumption here is that if you are for #1, then #2 automatically follows. That's just rubbish.

I live in multicultural New Jersey, USA. Within 15 miles, in two different directions, are two Jewish communities, one of them strictly Sephardic, upper income and less strictly religious, the other, mostly Ashkenazi, mid to lower income, and observant about religious orthodoxy and observance. Both are very insular, both have been around for decades, and both will continue to thrive for decades if not centuries, even though there are no federal, state or local laws that mandate that they be kept separate from the rest of the world. They are surrounded by Mexican and Indian restaurants, Spanish language and African American churches, and all other flavors of the rainbow. We've opened our borders and there are still plenty of Jews around, as well as other ethnic groups.

So, two questions:

1) Can and should Israel open it's borders, allow Jews to intermarry with non Jews, extend the rights of immigration to people regardless of their religion or ethnic background?

2) If it did, would it be the end of Judiasm?

The Jewish people survived centuries of oppression, pogroms and the Holocaust, but now this video is claiming it could disappear in 15 years because of Mexican restaurants and on-line interracial dating services ???

[Moz]

it always the same... the so called "white man" fear-logic.
Things have to change if we are to become a more evolved planet... that means that the some "good old things" have to change or disappear while other traditions will remain...

Some countries like Sweden have lived in great opulence while other parts of this planet have been living in the most degrading subhuman conditions... I am not the one to think that these kind of inequalities are unrelated. Maybe people in Sweden do think that their 15 minutes of fame would last forever.

[BF88]

Change should not be forced upon anyone.

[Snoweagle]

What's wrong with racial diversity?

Ask Israel.

[panopticon]

Be aware that the OP videos are associated with Bob Whitaker's mantra munchers (aka "BUGS Swarm": Bobs Underground Graduate Seminar Swarm) from the online white supremacist group Storm Front.

White Rabbit Radio created the videos (from memory with Whitaker's assistance) and is run by Timothy Murdock (aka "Tom Worth", "Horus the Avenger").

He is in his 40's and lives in his parents basement.

The Norwegian man who in 2011 murdered 77 people (Anders Breivik) was amongst his admirers (Breivik sent Murdock his manifesto prior to the attacks)...

So before people get on the "anti-racist = anti-white"/"white genocide" mantra train think about the final destination and what is actually being sold.

BTW, none of this is contentious and all of it is common knowledge.

-- Pan

[panopticon]

So, two questions:

1) Can and should Israel open it's borders, allow Jews to intermarry with non Jews, extend the rights of immigration to people regardless of their religion or ethnic background?

2) If it did, would it be the end of Judiasm??

I'm no expert but as far as I remember there is no law in Israel to stop Jews and non-Jews marrying.

That's why the far right wing group Lehava (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lehava) picket marriages between Jews and non-Jews.

The rest of the first question could be asked of many Countries around the world.

As for the second question, I don't see why it would be the end of Judaism.

Many Jews don't live in Israel so inter-religious marrying by some in Israel really wouldn't mean the end of Judaism.

BTW, Israel is the Nation State. Judaism is the religion. While Zionism tries to join the two I think we should remember that not every Jew is an Israeli, not every Jew is a Zionist, not every Israeli is a Zionist and not every Israeli is a Jew (no matter how much Bennett wants that to be the case -- though keep an eye on him, he "smells" wrong).

-- Pan

[Tesla_WTC_Solution]

Be aware that the OP videos are associated with Bob Whitaker's mantra munchers (aka "BUGS Swarm": Bobs Underground Graduate Seminar Swarm) from the online white supremacist group Storm Front.

White Rabbit Radio created the videos (from memory with Whitaker's assistance) and is run by Timothy Murdock (aka "Tom Worth", "Horus the Avenger").

He is in his 40's and lives in his parents basement.

The Norwegian man who in 2011 murdered 77 people (Anders Breivik) was amongst his admirers (Breivik sent Murdock his manifesto prior to the attacks)...

So before people get on the "anti-racist = anti-white"/"white genocide" mantra train think about the final destination and what is actually being sold.

BTW, none of this is contentious and all of it is common knowledge.

-- Pan

holy Sh** and thank you !

i've researched Brievik a bit and didn't know about his links to Storm Front prop.

ty for info.


anders breivik shot up a KIDS' CAMP...
like going to a DECA meet or music camp and firing on the crowd.
he was a total POS. :painkiller:



edit: re: Jewish people and marriage,
there's a lot of family pressure in some of their families, on the kids,
to adhere to tradition. sometimes religious pressure too.

my cousin knew some kids in college who had this trouble,
they liked the American girls well enough but their families guilted them a lot;
the natural inclination is to do the genetically healthy thing,
which in many cases is to choose a dissimilar mate.

i.e. Ruth.

but people forget that a Moabite was in the lineage of C.

!!

:(

long story short some Jewish kids choose to marry non Jews (and some pay a rough price for it, some not) and others don't.

their individual communities vary in severity of the enforcement of tradition.

kinda like Mormon or Amish but maybe less severe?


LOL i wouldn't know. :mod:

[panopticon]

holy Sh** and thank you !

i've researched Brievik a bit and didn't know about his links to Storm Front prop.

ty for info.

edit: re: Jewish people and marriage,
there's a lot of family pressure in some of their families, on the kids,
to adhere to tradition. sometimes religious pressure too.

my cousin knew some kids in college who had this trouble,
they liked the American girls well enough but their families guilted them a lot;
the natural inclination is to do the genetically healthy thing,
which in many cases is to choose a dissimilar mate.

...

long story short some Jewish kids choose to marry non Jews (and some pay a rough price for it, some not) and others don't.

their individual communities vary in severity of the enforcement of tradition.

kinda like Mormon or Amish but maybe less severe?


No worries. I researched the videos previously so thought I'd share.

After a quick look it appears that interfaith marriages involving Jews are on the rise in the US (came across 60% as a figure but I'm not sure how reliable that is [source (http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/01/09/is-intermarriage-the-new-normal-for-american-jews/)]).

In relation to Israel's marriage laws.

I had another look at it (I hate not being sure of what I'm on about) and it appears it is a lot more complicated than I presented.

Haaretz reported last year:

A survey conducted by New Family, a nonprofit organization that advocates on behalf of common-law, same-sex and interfaith families, found that one in 10 families in Israel is mixed. (Hebrew University demographer Sergio DellaPergola, cited in the 2008 Knesset report, reported a lower rate, of one in 20). As she has written in these pages, Irit Rosenblum, New Family’s executive director, estimates that the rate will go up sharply in the coming years, with many of the children of non-Jewish women who immigrated to Israel from the Former Soviet Union, during the big wave of the 1990s, now approaching marital age.
Source (http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/shavuot/.premium-1.596678)
In Israel it appears interfaith marriages are recognised if the marriage occurs overseas.

So, it appears couples in which one member is Jewish travel overseas to get married and then return to Israel where their marriage is now recognised...

But wait. Here are some more tidbits...

It appears that if someones is Jewish but their mother wasn't (ie only their father was or they are a convert) then they can't marry in Israel either (source (http://www.myjewishlearning.com/israel/Contemporary_Life/Society_and_Religious_Issues/Freedom_of_Religion/civil_marriage_in_israel.shtml)). That may be why the stats are the way they are. I honestly don't know.

I'm rather tentatively going to say that it appears that civil unions can occur and be recognised in Israel if neither participant has a religion (I need to research that a lot more).

Lehava does picket interfaith marriages in Israel. These marriages appear to be between Muslim males and Jewish women who have converted to Islam. Under Islamic Law it appears that it is fine for a Muslim man to marry a non-Muslim woman (whether the woman converts or not -- as long as any children are raised Muslim) but not a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man.

I need to research this more to work out the nuances.

As I said: It's complicated.

Also, the much publicised case last year where Lehava picketed an interfaith marriage neglected to mention that the couple were both Muslim. The woman had converted from Judaism to Islam and Lehava wanted her to "return to the faith".

If there's someone here who knows more about the marriage laws in Israel (ie an Israeli citizen!) could they clear up the situation there as I'm not that interested (I don't believe in State or institutionally regulated/authorised marriage anyway) and it looks like it would take a while to wade through it all.

The following image I came across in a Haaretz article seems to sums it up:

http://www.haaretz.com/polopoly_fs/1.596691.1401815653!/image/1806099279.jpg_gen/derivatives/landscape_640/1806099279.jpg
Source (http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/shavuot/.premium-1.596576)

-- Pan

Some sources:

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/shavuot/.premium-1.596678
http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/shavuot/.premium-1.596576
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/05/20135218450744543.html
http://www.timesofisrael.com/on-marriage-freedom-israel-as-bad-as-iran/
http://www.ifamericansknew.org/cur_sit/marriage.html
http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-26067980
http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2013/02/getting-married-in-israel-why-it-so-often-means-hiring-a-detective/273127/
http://www.myjewishlearning.com/israel/Contemporary_Life/Society_and_Religious_Issues/Freedom_of_Religion/civil_marriage_in_israel.shtml
http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/01/09/is-intermarriage-the-new-normal-for-american-jews/