Aldebaran, Anyone Care to Elaborate?

[DNA]

So, for the longest time I've not really heard anything about Aldebaran, and then this place just starts turning up more and more in Kerry's interviews.

Most notably in the most boring interview I've ever witnessed Kerry be a part of. Norman Bergrun's RingMakers Of Saturn Interview (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHmgZymhJL8) out of which I got two worth while pieces of information. 1. That the aliens who were helping the Germans were pretty much indistinguishable from us. And that they came from a place called Aldebaran. 2. That the rings of Saturn seem to be made if you will, by some race piloting large ships and or some type of organic entity that looks like a space ship. The Saturn's rings thing was neither here nor there, but this deal with the Aldebaran's is a pretty big deal

Kerry has stated, in one of here interviews with Mark Richards, that the short lived TV show "The Event" was based on these exact folks. I found this extremely interesting.

Further, Kerry stated in one of her interviews with Mark Richards, that these Aldebarans are looking to move to earth in some numbers due to a problem with their home world, and that they are currently moving into Africa.

This has me wondering if these weren't in fact the same folks who Ingo Swann ran into when he talked of having a chance meeting with a female alien in a grocery store, in his book "Penetration".


Also, and I just have to mention this last part, because it just seems to fit.

This is a typed excerpt from Val Valerian's Matrix II Book.



Inner Earth Species

called Sasquatch

IN April of 1974, psychic Joyce Partise of southern California held a sealed envelope in her hands. Unknown to her, that envelope held a photograph of a Sasquatch footprint taken in a heavily wooded area in the northern part of the state.
Her initial remarks:
"This envelope is like a death certificate! I foresee an impending disaster, yes, now I see what it is. These things are coming from outer space - it's an outer space war! The first area will be Portland, Oregon. There's a mountain with a hole in it. Somebody should investigate this mountain because they're down there already. You know hairy things that run around, the ape man? He's not an ape. they're underground, in contact with outer space and their intentions toward mankind is total destruction".

Excerpts from the rest of the reading

"This gorilla man - there's a civilization of thousands of them - he looks creepy but he's intelligent. Their eyes are extremely sensitive from being underground. It's though they're from another civilization long ago and have mutated because of radiation. This has altered their brains and now they're able to communicate with those in outer space. The sad thing is that these aliens are using them for their work, for laborers, but I can't tell what they're building. These aliens are desperate. Something is happening to their planet and they are preparing themselves for the time when they must leave. They must have a place to go, and right now they are analyzing our planet with the help of those hairy creatures and want to take it over.


I have to wonder if the folks alluded to in the above quote are in fact these Aldebarans.



From Wikipedia


Aldebaran is an orange giant star located about 65 light years away in the zodiac constellation of Taurus. With an average apparent magnitude of 0.87 it is the brightest star in the constellation and is one of the brightest stars in the nighttime sky. The name Aldebaran is Arabic (الدبران al-dabarān) and translates literally as "the follower", presumably because this bright star appears to follow the Pleiades, or "Seven Sisters" star cluster in the night sky.[3]

In 1997 a substellar companion was reported but subsequent observations have not confirmed this claim.




Size comparison between Aldebaran and the Sun.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/Aldebaran-Sun_comparison-en.svg/200px-Aldebaran-Sun_comparison-en.svg.png

[Cidersomerset]

Ah found it , it was while I was doing the Richard Hall /Andrew Johnson thread
that this one popped up and I started watching it............

The first 10 mins is an intro into Dereks interest in amateur rocketry , then they
discuss his hypothesis , that a dying race from a planet orbiting Aldebaran ,
sent out probes to prospective inhabited planets. One of which came to earth
and landed and was discovered by one of the early civilisations in the Mesopotamia
region and has been kept by secret societies down the ages and much more....

Its a different take on the Sitchin and other material , he keeps to the mainstream
ageing of the tablets and events , so he proposes the probe landed aprox 5/6000
years ago and keeps away from older speculated civilisations.


http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/images/maps/mesopotamia.gif


http://www.rabbithole2.com/presentation/ancient/images/525162235_8f74edddd1.jpg


RICHPLANET TV PARTS 1 TO 4 The Aldebaran Project

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Published on 26 Jan 2015


Taken from Richplanet TV, go there to see more documentaries and investigations on the topics the Media don't touch. http://www.richplanet.net/starship.php

This week we talk to Derek Willis who developed his own rockets in the 1990's. One
of the rockets he built and launched achieved an altitude of 5km. Strange things
then started to happen and his ambition to launch his own rockets into Earth orbit
was thwarted. Following this Derek was approached by a publisher and asked to
write a book about the history of rocketry and space flight. While researching this
book he came across "myths" about spacecraft being sent to Earth from the star
Aldebaran thousands of years ago. He then set about searching for evidence which
might shed light on these myths and has written a hypothesis entitled "The
Aldebaran Project". In the hypothesis he proposes that an ancient alien satellite
may still orbit the Earth and he intends to launch a mini satellite to try and observe
it and prove the hypothesis

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[Calz]

Lord Sidious brought out some information in years gone by (sure miss those nugget trails).

That was the first I had heard of it.


*adding*


This search brings up 7 threads. The one I remember was one of the best threads ever (imho) but quite lengthy so I am too lazy to do more than this:



Type: Posts; Keyword(s): Aldebaran; User: Lord Sidious



Has white man colonised planet Earth?


Started by Andrew, 15th May 2011 13:20

[Atlas]

[...] 2. That the rings of Saturn seem to be made if you will, by some race piloting large ships and or some type of organic entity that looks like a space ship.
The origin of Saturns rings:
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Saturn's Rings:
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[meat suit]

another reason why Saturn has such fine rings, seems to be that its magnetic field and rotational axis are perfectly aligned...

[Cidersomerset]

I have put up several threads about Saturn and links
to historic cults and religions...

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Red Ice Radio - Jay Weidner - Kubrick's Odyssey & The Brotherhood of Saturn

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Called by Wired Magazine an "authority on the hermetic and alchemical traditions,"
and "erudite conspiracy hunter," Jay Weidner is a renowned author, filmmaker and
hermetic scholar. Considered to be a "modern-day Indiana Jones" for his ongoing
worldwide quests to find clues to mankind's spiritual destiny via ancient societies
and artifacts, his body of work offers great insight into the circumstances that have
led to the current global crisis. He is the producer of the documentary films, "2012
The Odyssey", its sequel "Timewave 2013" and "Infinity; The Ultimate Trip". Jay
joins us to discuss his latest film "Kubrick's Odyssey: Secrets Hidden in the films of
Stanley Kubrick". The acclaimed American film director Stanley Kubrick told an
important story with all his films and they all connect with each other and
communicate a message. The question is if Kubrick was murdered considering what
he trying to reveal with his films. We start to examine the film "Eyes Wide Shut"
and how it connects with mind control, the elite, satanic, archonic, and demonic
forces. We also discuss the Brotherhood of Saturn, the secret space program and
Arthur C. Clarke. Topics Discussed: Kubric's Odyssey, Eyes Wide Shut, Operation
Monarch, occult, sex-cults, Kubrick murdered, storytelling with films, A.I.,
pedophilia, Archons, Demons, Lolita, bear symbolism, Jim Garrison, Lee Harvey
Oswald, NASA, the real space program, Babalon Bunch, Saturnian Society, JPL, the
ringmakers, hexagonal rings on Saturn, Jupiter, Zeus, Saturn, Set, Buzz Aldrin
comments on the Monolith Phobos, Lord of the Rings, Iapateus, Sargon, rings of
Saturn, time trap and more.

Re: Jay Weidner: How Stanley Kubrick filmed the Moon Landings for NASA
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The Pope's Weird..Throne Room..

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NWO a Satanic Cult

Post Admin on Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:05 am
LA RESURREZIONE sculpted by Pericle Fazzini

This twenty-meter-wide brass and bronze sculpture behind the current Pope,
Benedict XVI, is located in the Vatican's Paul VI Audience Hall which was completed
in 1971.The Official Vatican spin on this horrifyingly evil appearing sculpture,
supposedly in the words of Fazzini, who is no longer among the living to confirm it,
is that "Christ rises from this crater torn open by a nuclear bomb; an atrocious
explosion, a vortex of violence and energy."

If this is, indeed, a modern depiction of the Resurrection of Christ, why then does it
bear such a bizarre alien chthonic resemblance to a demonic, Satanic image?

Why is the word "Christ" noticeably absent from the name of the sculpture? Just
who is it, really, that is shown being "Resurrected" here?

This is very reminiscent of both:

1. Scientology Doctrine:

"Seventy-five million years ago the emperor of the Galactic Federation, a despot
named Xenu, solved overpopulation on his planet by freezing its inhabitants,
shipping them to Earth in spacecraft resembling DC-8s, and dropped them into
volcanoes in Hawaii and other places. He then detonated the volcanoes with atomic
bombs and captured the suddenly-disembodied Thetans with an electronic device."

and, 2. The Book of Revelation, Chapter 20:

1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.

2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan,
and bound him a thousand years,

3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him,
that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be
fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
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7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,

8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the
earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Are we about to see the flip side of who it was that died for us, that put us forever in His debt?

A MAJOR CHANGE HAS TAKEN PLACE IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SINCE THE
ASSASSINATION OF JOHN PAUL I, SEPTEMBER 28, 1978.

The notion of this coming "New World Order" dictatorship, and a 'New Age Religion'
of a Satanic nature is no longer a myth, it's a plain fact.

-The world leaders are now calling for this "New World Order" publicly, overtly, as the elite have quietly for years.

These (World Leaders) are now moving aggressively forward towards their planned
global dictatorship, because people are starting to wake-up to their overall agenda,
and they are moving in to close the trap of global dictatorship before the masses
awaken to their evil agendas.

http://www.7-star-admiral.com/add/0449_left_hand_satanic_salute_clipart.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ElQ6uj_xmu0/S5_ZrbfpaoI/AAAAAAAABa4/CpkE0238wvo/s400/bush_satan_worship.jpg

There seems to be an awfull lot of leaders doing this salute see attached...
Is it coincidental ?, or mean something else ?.....Or are they 'SATURN' worshippers !!

[url]http://chatter.betaboard.net/t377-nwo-a-satanic-cult

The Ily sign ...meaning I love you just does not feel right from these Charectors imho !!

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But it is also the sign used in Satanic clubs....

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Read more....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45206-The-Pope-s-Weird..Throne-Room..&highlight=Cidersomerset+satanic+Saturn

[Cidersomerset]

The Beauty & Majesty of SATURN.......Viewpoint: Saturn snapped as Earth smiled

I saw this article about Saturn and thought it a opportunity to do a
little alternate Saturn Collage.....

Plenty to watch/listen & digest for yourselves,
much you may have already seen, but worth
a recap or if its new to you, interesting interviews.



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12 November 2013 Last updated at 15:38
Saturn snapped as Earth smiled

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Saturn viewed from the Cassini spacecraft


The US space agency (Nasa) has released a spectacular new picture of the Planet
Saturn, acquired by the Cassini spacecraft in July. The image was produced as part of
The Day The Earth Smiled Project, which was led by Dr Carolyn Porco. She describes
how and why the picture was put together. Four months ago, our cameras on Cassini
were commanded to execute a routine imaging sequence during an event that was
anything but routine.

On 19 July, an array of overlapping images framing Saturn, its entire ring system and a
host of its moons was acquired while Cassini was deep in the shadow created by the
planet's eclipse of the Sun. This arrangement of Sun, Saturn, and machine made for a
rare opportunity to image from the outer Solar System the planets in close to the Sun.
The intent: To catch a precious glimpse of our own planet - tiny, remote, alone - as it
would be seen from a billion miles away.

Images of this nature had been taken before. The famous Voyager 1990 "Pale Blue Dot"
image of Earth became, in the hands of Carl Sagan, a romantic allegory of the human
condition and an inspirational call to environmental protection and planetary
brotherhood. And Cassini's previous 2006 version, taken from Saturn orbit, showing the
startling juxtaposition of our dot of a planet beside the enormity of Saturn's rings,
became the most beloved Cassini image.

But from the very start, the plans for the 19 July mosaic included something very
special: If all went well, the images would capture a glimpse of Earth alongside Saturn
and its rings at the very moment that people all over the globe would be contemplating
their connectedness to each other and to all life on Earth, appreciating the rarity of our
planet within the Solar System, marvelling at their own existence, and rejoicing at the
very thought of having their picture taken from a billion miles away.

And contemplate, appreciate, marvel and rejoice they did!

From Pennsylvania: "What a great way to feel connected to the Universe, the planet,
and every single person on it. We are truly all in this together."

From the UK: "What a privilege to be part of such an event with so many people
worldwide."

From somewhere unknown: "At the appropriate time, I turned my face to the sky and
spent a few minutes watching and listening to what life on Earth was like, right there.
What a feeling of connection and oneness with the miracle that is life on Earth. This
experience was beyond meaningful; it was transcendent. What a beautiful thing."

From upstate New York: "I've been entranced by this project ever since I heard about it
and was determined to join in the celebration. We may not be unique... we may be
transient... we may be only flying along on a dust mote. But for 15 minutes, we were
there, we were aware, and we smiled."

After much work, the mosaic that marks that moment the inhabitants of Earth, including
the four above, looked up wherever they were and smiled at the sheer joy of being
alive, is finally here.

In its combination of beauty and meaning, it is perhaps the most unusual image ever
taken in the history of the space programme.Have a look and you will discover a
universe of marvels. The brightly rimmed globe of Saturn and its main rings aglow with
sunlight streaming through them take centre stage.

On the left, embedded in the enormous, gossamer blue E ring, is the brilliant moon
Enceladus, gleaming in the reflected light of Saturn and the sparkle of a hundred
towering geysers, and likely the most promising place in all the Solar System to access
alien life.

A careful examination uncovers the shadow cast by this moon through the spray of
smoke-sized icy particles created by those geysers, like a telephone pole might cast a
shadow through a fog.

Below and to the right of Enceladus is Tethys, a moon about a third the size of ours,
illuminated by Saturn-shine. On the other side of the planet, to the upper right, is
Mimas - only a crescent but also casting a faint shadow through the E ring.

And on it goes - more moons and faint rings for anyone caring to take the time to wander.

Now, look one more time. There, below the main rings and to the right of the globe of
Saturn, far in the distance and seemingly lost in the radiance of the scene, lies a small
speck of blue light, floating in a sea of stars. That is our home, with every last one of us
on it - you, me, the folks down the block, even those on the opposite side of the Earth.
We all inhabit that lovely blue dot.

And more than this - the image of that dot captures the very moment, frozen in time,
when the inhabitants of our planet took a break from their normal activities to go
outside and acknowledge our "coming of age" as planetary explorers and the audacious
interplanetary salute between robot and maker that this image represents.

I hope long into the future, when people look again at this image, they will recall the
moment when, as crazy as it might have seemed, they were there, they were aware,
and they smiled.


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Annotated Saturn The positions of the objects are inside the circles. The squares contain enlarged views


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Pale blue dot Earth and the Moon are seen as a blue dot at the bottom right of the image



Dr Porco is the Imaging Team Leader on the Nasa/Esa/Asi Cassini mission. She was
also instrumental in helping frame the Earth for its famous Pale Blue Dot portrait by
Voyager. You can follow Dr Porco on Twitter and read more about her work and
that of her imaging team on the CICLOPS website.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-24913141


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Norman Bergrun Speaking About The Ringmakers Of Saturn
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Rare Interview With Norman Bergrun Speaking About The Ring Makers Of Saturn

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Alien Speech? Found in NASA's Saturn Radio Signal

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More on link......All THE PROJECT CAMELOT : NORMAN BERGRUN : RINGMAKERS OF SATURN INTERVIEWS


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[Ecnal61]

we often hear the phrase" hidden in plain sight"..the picture of the pope with what looks to me like his reptilian master behind him is so blindingly obvious that its almost a joke if it were not so true. christ rising from a crater my arr%e.

[Cidersomerset]

we often hear the phrase" hidden in plain sight"..the picture of the pope
with what looks to me like his reptilian master behind him is so blindingly obvious
that its almost a joke if it were not so true. christ rising from a crater my arr%e.

your right mate most of this information is hidden in plain sight. I am listening to
the Jay WeidnerRed Ice interview again which is excellent with so much info.
Something he says about Kubrick and the false moon landings. What I'm finding
many of these events over the last century and probably before are all linked to
mysterious factions that always seem to be covered up in the mainstream. As they
they own the media , major politicians and higher governmental and institutions.

NASA approached Kubrick after being impressed by the effects in his film Dr. No .
So when he was filming 2001 it was agreed he filmed the moon landing footage. Jay
says in the credits of 2001 there are a lot of mil in com firms acknowledged. Then
he talks about many of the astronauts could not remember being actually on the
moon, which he explains that 'Clock Work Orange' written by Anthony Burgess in
1961/2 from inside info given to him by Kubrick himself and his contacts.Was about
mind control and this is what they did to the astronauts. Sounds plausible and in
the time frame if you think this happened.

MK Ultra and mind control was at its cold war height during the 1960's and who
knows where it is now.Bob Dobbs an ex British intelligence operative says
its one of the best spy movies portraying the time,and one of the best in the
genre , which included an attempted mind wipe scene.....

The Ipcress File (1965 Trailer)

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Sidney J. Furie and starring Michael Caine, Guy Doleman,
Nigel Green, Gordon Jackson and Sue Lloyd. The screenplay
by Bill Canaway and James Doran was based on Len Deighton's
1962 novel, The IPCRESS File. It has won critical acclaim and a
BAFTA award for best British film. In 1999 it was included at
number 59 on the BFI list of the 100 best British films of the
twentieth century. (Description source: Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ipcr...)

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This is probably not the actual techniches but the principle
is they could do it. Remember showing live hypnotism is
illegal in the UK brought ....Hypnotism Act 1952 (c.46) - Legislation.gov.uk
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Geo6and1Eliz2/15-16/46

Also shown by Derren Brown in the assassination of Stephen Fry
where he suggests at the start of the show it was possible to
make some one kill another person under hypnosis , in reference
to the Sirhan Sirhan shootings of Robert Kennedy where Sirhan
says he had not memory of the event. Critics said it could not be
done but the volunteer did shoot Stephen Fry live on stage

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In this short clip from a BBC interview with Michael Pakinson Anthony
Burgess says how he heard it discussed that young thugs should not go
to prison because that was for professional criminals ( quaint ) but they
should be put thru a conditioning programme ,in effect turning them into
' Clock Work Oranges '. This was also the era of Mau and the great
re education programmes in the communist world and paranoia particularly
in the US after the death of Kennedy, echos of Mc Carthy'ism and the J Edgar
Hoover reign of blackmail and coercion , Civil rights, Plus the Vietnam War ,



This is speculation but the dots keep coming hopefully soon
we will get the picture..................

[Bright Garlick]

The people of Aldebaran star system are involved in The Architecture and help maintain doorways on this planet and work in a few governments. They are peaceful and compassionate.

[Limor Wolf]

Hello DNA, You are able to get more background with Peter Lavenda's work in the link below. The Aldebaran beings are believed to be associated with the third Reich, and now with the fourth reich.. and with the secret space travel program (SSP). This information complements Kerry Cassidy's interview with Mark Richards which seems to have quite a lot of validity in it.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?77649-the-latest-Peter-Levenda-interview-re-his-Hitler-Legacy&p=908714&viewfull=1#post908714

This video provides some good information


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di610MWHAWI

[DNA]

BrightGarlic, if these folks backed the WW II nazis and present day nazis as Limor's post suggests then we should not presume benevolence.

Cider and Calz have provided quite a bit of material for me to chew on tonight.

Cider, I've listened to that Jay Wiedner video on Saturn and it's really good. If you start a new thread dedicated to Saturn, I would have quite a bit to say on it. But this is not the thread for that. I think Aldabaren is enough of a topic for a thread. Well wish me luck as I dig into the information you guys have provided.

[Cidersomerset]

Cider, I've listened to that Jay Wiedner video on Saturn and it's really good. If you start a new thread dedicated to Saturn, I would have quite a bit to say on it. But this is not the thread for that. I think Aldabaren is enough of a topic for a thread. Well wish me luck as I dig into the information you guys have provided.

Yeah it is to wide a subject and after listening to Jay I got distracted by the moon
hoax which I just wanted to write down as I was mulling over it. I have heard
variations of all these theories and just put a thread up about the Appollo hoax by
Richard Hall and Andrew John which broadened out to other subjects and is where I
saw the Alderbaran discussion above. I have posted on several threads with the
info Lima put up and similar and was going thru my archive to find some, You also
mentioned Norman Bergrund and his boring interviews with Kerry, which must of
distracted me and when I saw the Saturn thread above , which led to Jay and the
bleeden Saturn Cults , TPTB and back to the moon hoax , and Stanley Cubrick
having a big part witnessing a lot of these goings on which may have ended his life
when trying to disclose more in 'Eyes wide shut'....

The trouble is I've got so much info lighting up my brain cells that most of the
threads I enjoy seem to be connected...LOL

Any way I'll try and find some more Aldebaran info....Cheers Steve...

[DNA]

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Cider you are my boy. We go way back. But I gotta tell you this video above that you mentioned was a boring pile of horse dung. Too much conjecture by an amateur rocket maker on the limitations of space travel based on liquid propellant rockets as we know them. He states the Aldebarans could not have come here as the vrill society states due to interstellar travel for life as we know it to be impossible. You and I know this is limited self aggrandizement basically asserting no one is smarter than our present culture. He then uses this logic to determine that a probe was sent here and no actual living Aldebarans. This is the same argument we here from most debunkers when discussing anything ufo oriented.

Here is a video that covers the pertinent points, better, faster and manages to entertain a little.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndjYLv-hfQI[/url]

[Cidersomerset]

Cider you are my boy. We go way back. But I gotta tell you this video above that you mentioned was a boring pile of horse dung. Too much conjecture by an amateur rocket maker on the limitations of space travel based on liquid propellant rockets as we know them. He states the Aldebarans could not have come here as the vrill society states due to interstellar travel for life as we know it to be impossible. You and I know this is limited self aggrandizement basically asserting no one is smarter than our present culture. He then uses this logic to determine that a probe was sent here and no actual living Aldebarans. This is the same argument we here from most debunkers when discussing anything ufo oriented.

Here is a video that covers the pertinent points, better, faster and manages to entertain a little.

I did not say it was any good just interesting , the first time I watched it I fell
asleep,I listened to it three times now and there are some good points in it from his
point of view and Richard filled in some gaps. If the black night is up there, the
secret space programme have known since the 1950's. It is a slightly more
mainstream version of a little of the Sitchin material. He does not give much
credence to the Vril group , but does acknowledge and has studied the Thule
society . Just another view , and worth putting on the shelf imo as Rich Hall is a
pretty good researcher.Derek clearly has his views and although by definition he is
In the rabbit hole,does not seem to want to go to far down, The other problem they
are both 'Jordies ' from the North East of the UK and the accent is slow paced and a
little drowsy....

I have seen the other vid and several like it and what I was going to find before
I got distracted...LOL


This is a better one from the Nazi point of view leading to Admiral Byrd and
The Ant artic expedition that leads to other researchers work that the Third
Reich has been amalgamated into the US mil ins complex....

Secrets Of The 3rd Reich - Secret Nazi Research in Alien Technology

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Published on 11 Feb 2013


Video about how the Synagogue of Satan through the Nazis rediscovered Atlantis
and its flash frozen technology by channeling evil spiritual entities along with using
occult knowledge found during their Ahnenerbe project. During Operation Highjump
(and later Operation Deep Freeze), the Americans went to Antarctica and took the
technology back to their D.U.M.B.s in the U.S. deserts to be retro-engineered and
mastered within black projects along with other horrors being worked on for the
coming New World Order of the Antichrist. The Nazi occultists/scientists were also
moved to America under Operation Paperclip (Odessa) to work on the black
projects, turn the OSS into the CIA, and help turn Jack Parson's JPL into NASA.

These modern vimanas & vailixi will be used to fool billions via an "alien" strong
delusion to help bring in the New World Order & one world false 'cosmic' New Age
religion of the Antichrist. Would "aliens" or fallen angels/demons be more likely to
help give technological blueprints & other evil knowledge to sinister Nazis
(satanists)??? Especially just in time for the New World Order of the Antichrist!

http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/vril/...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Occu...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahnenerbe

http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/in...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_v...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dietrich...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Su...

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Nazi Cult: The Vril Society

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Published on 4 Feb 2013


Video about the occult origins of the satanic cult/dark fellowship known as the Vril
society which led to many other secret societies (Black Sun society, Thule
society,etc) and sinister things like the Ahnenerbe, Nazi party, and Nazi expeditions
to India & Tibet which led to the rediscovery of Atlantis plus all of its flash frozen
super advanced antediluvian technology.

[DNA]

My attempts at levity make me into a butthole sometimes. I think you're right with the accents. A quick talking American could have spit that info in half the time. No direspect to the Brits, but when I'm diving for info my oxygen tanks suggest a time limit, and we are all trying to make the most of our time. Which brings us back to Saturn again eh Cider. LoL. Have a good one.

[butcherman]

now things have pretty much settled down here think it would be a welcome wit

[Calz]

The people of Aldebaran star system are involved in The Architecture and help maintain doorways on this planet and work in a few governments. They are peaceful and compassionate.


BrightGarlic, if these folks backed the WW II nazis and present day nazis as Limor's post suggests then we should not presume benevolence.

Cider and Calz have provided quite a bit of material for me to chew on tonight.

Cider, I've listened to that Jay Wiedner video on Saturn and it's really good. If you start a new thread dedicated to Saturn, I would have quite a bit to say on it. But this is not the thread for that. I think Aldabaren is enough of a topic for a thread. Well wish me luck as I dig into the information you guys have provided.

Don't discount what Bright suggests so quickly ... he has contributed some very good work here over the years.

Stop and consider the whole good/bad white/dark meme when applying it to any group, society, race or even planet.

Right???

[Agape]

The problem really is that human society is cultish .. by nature , given by the fact that it survived scattered all around the globe in little communities, often very distanced from each other ..for millions of years ,
from there they've inherited patterns - that manifest as 'tribal consciousness' or a need to create and belong to 'special group' of humans .

So no matter what you do ...there'll be gossip , there will be level of disinformation spreading around like ripples all the time because some people always twist the facts, only if little on your behalf .

When angels are gone .. people talk of angels , draw angels, invoke angels .. but do those look necessarily as people portray them ?

ET encounters are coming literally from 'out-of-time' and by their nature they're also timeless ..

but what ways do they mostly touch this solid human reality other than by ways of biological intelligence ,
if their AI was so powerful it could 'update' human systems mechanically as you'd expect and it would be capable of transmutation of terrestrial matter ,
would not that fact itself manifest , earlier than living encounters ,
on the flip side of our /dimensional mirror/ .

What do you create of that in your 'own time' is entirely your choice and aptitude ,

also an attitude ..

as you can see from the media pictures above and all those historical archives how both good and bad cults and societies were built , through out human history , at all epochs ..
to secure 'contact' with Universe , by whatever means .

Now whether these or those people ever achieved 'the contact' is questionable because much of each historical records and legends is usually borrowed and passed on from older resources and no one - no one - can say where the record old goes .. from human point of view .


So there's a warning message in here for me , and all of us i suppose ..no matter what is the ETIs nature and what this intelligence has been messaging us for centuries
we are capable of misusing the intelligence , turning it against our own kind,
..

if you ever watched The Contact movie ( yes the one with Judie Foster ) , the message is there as well .


Oh well :angel:

[Agape]

One big part of the problem is rules , or you may call it 'protocols' , communication rules , the 'alphabets' of inter-stellar contact were often preserved by secret societies ..often misinterpreted nowadays and seldom used well .

If those protocols are not kept .. the 'authentication process' is difficult .

[Maunagarjana]

BrightGarlic, if these folks backed the WW II nazis and present day nazis as Limor's post suggests then we should not presume benevolence.


And we shouldn't presume that there are only one group of beings from Aldebaran. And we shouldn't presume that one portion of a group represents all of them.

[DeDukshyn]

...

http://www.7-star-admiral.com/add/0449_left_hand_satanic_salute_clipart.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_ElQ6uj_xmu0/S5_ZrbfpaoI/AAAAAAAABa4/CpkE0238wvo/s400/bush_satan_worship.jpg

There seems to be an awfull lot of leaders doing this salute see attached...
Is it coincidental ?, or mean something else ?.....Or are they 'SATURN' worshippers !!

http://chatter.betaboard.net/t377-nwo-a-satanic-cult

The Ily sign ...meaning I love you just does not feel right from these Charectors imho !!

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSSvAVHuVmL64vYgLsuFdMqqOdtzrU2aWKshjzbX27nSe1e15OC2A

But it is also the sign used in Satanic clubs....

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_ElQ6uj_xmu0/S6AMSKxIlMI/AAAAAAAABbA/at7qQBtPE-A/s320/SATAN-HAND-SIGN-ILLUMINATI.jpg

Read more....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?45206-The-Pope-s-Weird..Throne-Room..&highlight=Cidersomerset+satanic+Saturn

Just an FYI -- different symbol altogether -- in the "I Love You" sign, the thumb is extended - which seems to make an "I" and an "L" - acronym for "I Love"

[DNA]

It was the two Maria and Sigrun from the Vril, not the Thule.
And seeing as they have indeed disappeared without trace, I would think that in itself is a good clue.


did vril society depart for aldebaran in 1945

Did Maria Orsic hop in a Vril-7 spacecraft and make the jump in a worm hole to Aldebaran? A March 11, 1945 letter to the Vril Society written by Orsic, ended with "niemand bleibt hier" (no one is staying here). Orsic and the Vril Society vanished off the face of the earth shortly after. What does it imply? Did their fate take them elsewhere? In 1919, Orsic claimed to receive telepathic tranmissions, which originated from Aldebaran in the constellation Taurus. The transmissions resulted in two piles of papers, one in a secret German Templar script and a second unknown language, which turned out to be Sumerian. The papers were detailed plans for a flying machine. By 1922, the flying machine project, funded by the Thule and Vril Societies, began assembling parts manufactured for them by independent industry sources.

By early 1944, Orsic and Sigrun, the Vril mediums received information on inhabitable planets around Aldebaran and discussions ensued about a possible trip. These discussions included the highest levels of the Third Reich. The decision was made for a test flight of a Vril 7 through a "dimension channel", which rumor has as barely averting disaster. Did Maria Orsic and the Vril Society make it or crash and burn? Is it myth or is there something more? A nice ten minute video primer of the occult background and progression of the Vril flying machine is linked here.

http://cyber-space-war.blogspot.com/2010/12/did-vril-society-depart-for-aldebaran.html


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The Vril Discs

Series 1-11
(1941-1945)

The Vril motto “Not all good comes from above” summarizes the entire history of the Vril Gesellschaft (Society) from its inception to the final days of WW2 when this occult group seemed to vanish right off the face of the earth.

The name Vril is the shortening of “VRI-IL” which means “Like God”. Officially Vril was “The All German Society for Metaphysics” which merged with the Thule Gesellschaft and the obscure DHvSS (Men of the Black Stone) in the year 1919.

The DHvSS (1912) worshipped the German mountain goddess Isias and the Schwarz Stein (black stone). The Thule Gesellschaft (1917) believed in the hollow earth theory and derived its name from Ultima Thule the ancient capital of Hyperborea at the top of the world. Vril worshipped the Black Sun (the invisible inner light of the Godhead) which supposedly gave or generated incredible power and communicated with Aryan aliens living in the Aldebaran system through psychic channeling.

Confused by the strange language and mental images she was receiving through psychic channeling, Maria Orsic of Thule joined with the Vril Gesellschaft which brought in another psychic medium named Sigrun to help translate the alien language (which turned out to be ancient Sumerian) and decipher the strange mental images of a circular flight machine for making contact.

Sigrun was not the Vril medium’s true name but is derived from Sigrune - one of the nine daughters of Odin and a Valkyrie.

So this is where the Vril disc story begins ...



http://discaircraft.greyfalcon.us/The%20Vril%20Discs.htm


(note - this one has plenty of photos if you follow the link)


So let me get this straight.

The extent of the supposed help given to the Germans in the making of their Nazi Bell ie flying saucers from the peoples of Aldebaran, was some channeled info through Maria Orsic?

I can't help but to be dissapointed by this.

In my mind there was a moment when a flying saucer came down and was playing a bad ass tune through their loudspeakers like this one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XR2oct3zeTM

You might laugh, but I"m half serious.

I thought at the very least there would have been some actual Aldebaran's in a lab or something working with the Germans. Which given the nazis evil slant made me think these Aldebarans are probably some evil f#cks.

So to reiterate, the only help from Aldebaran, was some channeled information.

Given to Maria Orsic and some other women in the Vrill society, who handed over this information to the Thule Society, who then in turn handed it over to the Nazis.

I'm very dissapointed. This doesn't seem very likely at all.

I'm left with more questions than answers.

[Agape]

DNA, with all respect , I don't think it was all the case ( either ).

The 'story' seems to be twofold ..and either of its parts could be ( actually ) an elaborate hoax ,
however .. I recommend anyone interested in the topic to watch recent Camelot video with Kerry Cassidy and Jim Nichols , 'The Magicians of NASA' .

UuB_7bUoVoY

It's really a good interview and worth the time listening .. further links to Jim Nichols and his research and other activities can be found on his webpage :

http://thewebmatrix.net/jimnicholsufo/

and on the Youtube page .

This much for the historical perspective ( or a fragment of , better to say .. ) . The 'silver thread' of the story is -

there is number of ancient 'esoteric schools' on earth at all times, arcane lineages - who preserve keys to certain knowledge , pass them down to future generations and will continue to do so till the time requires such and such piece of information being released .
This isn't happening in any sort of ritual manner that could be 'tapped into' , there are no code locks available anywhere that could simply do the job .

The knowledge may be , hidden anywhere you don't see it , and moreover, it's stored in memory of certain individuals who pass it , as such , a mental record ( rather than any material inscription ) to future generation and so forth.

This is the biggest 'computer storage' available .. and the fastest processing .

And yes, no matter what happens on the surface of earth - or under - times going up or down , this living lineage of knowledge will continue since it's the most important treasure we have,
waiting for the perfect time and conditions to unfold itself fully ..


...

:angel:

[GloriousPoetry]

The rings of Saturn from my understanding are also linked to the synthetic energy known as Kundalini.....these ET's that reside in Saturn are able to broadcast an overlaying energetic program that messes with our Chakras and fool people into a false light paradigm that makes people believe they have reached enlightenment.

I can say this with experience....I had an intense kundalini experience in 2004 and it was a terrifying energy. On a soul level back in 2004 I knew it was linked to the planet Saturn but couldn't understand what this implied.....years later I now understand.......creepy! The book "Our Universal Journey by George Kavassilas explains the Saturn connection with E.T.s and its influence on humanity......disturbing book!