ROBOTS (this should make us all very worried) [Archive] - The Project Avalon Community Forum

Shadowself

25th February 2015, 15:25

Just a little FYI:

You know who owns Boston Dynamics?

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/google-chrome-logo-terminator-eye-640x353.jpg

Google acquires Boston Dynamics and seven other robotics companies: Next stop, Judgment Day

So, again, what does Google plan to do with its Googlebots? (Webmasters will find this portmanteau funny, as Google’s web crawling spider is also known as the Googlebot). Following the Boston Dynamics acquisition, Google says that it plans to honor its existing contracts, including the military contract with DARPA, but it doesn’t plan on pursuing any further military contracts after that. It isn’t clear how this will affect the fates of BigDog and Atlas, both of which are important parts of the US military’s plans to field an automated, robotic army.

Article here: http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/172859-google-acquires-boston-dynamics-and-seven-other-robotics-companies-next-stop-judgment-day

Last paragraph:

Personally, though, I have a nagging feeling that Google will combine its computer vision (Google Glass), machine learning (search), and newly acquired robotics expertise to create intelligent, humanoid robots — or, if you’ve seen Battlestar Galactica, cylons. To begin with, of course, these robots will be cybernetic slaves to humanity — helper bots that make fast food and open doors and sweep the street. Then, one fateful day someone will make the mistake of putting Googlebots in charge of the Googlebot production line. When the technological singularity eventually hits — probably around 2050 — these Googlebots will gain sentience and self-awareness. From that point on, they’ll be tormented by a single question: Do we continue to be slaves of humans, or do we take over this Googlebot factory, churn out millions of sentient bots, and take over the world?

Snoweagle

25th February 2015, 15:29

These mobile applications are "B" class technology for applications in the field of warfare, to be used by "grunts" able to facilitate some electro-mechanical repairs on the fly.

It is the AI that is significant here rather than the application. The AI is tranferrable whereas the electro-mechanical unit isn't.

Hardly think Special Services will be dropping behind enemy lines with a motorised (two or four stroke) "dawg" in tow as it's hardly stealth.

I would expect these units to be utilised in urban areas to scare the bejebbers out of local populations rather than any serious tactical application based on the design currently being shown here for public scrutiny.

The AI is the important thing here analogous with drone swarms. Consider the same dawg unit equipped with fleets or swarms of automous weaponised drones like a small aircraft carrier. That would be scary and most likely a more viable preposition for application worthiness. As a bag carrier for troops, hardly think so, but who knows.

In a nutshell, the AI and control system is key, the dawg is superficial and another drain on the military budget. Far superior systems exist though not in the public domain.

Bill Ryan

25th February 2015, 15:35

So what do you think the purpose of these "dogs" would be? Would they be used in dangerous situations?

Do you think this might be a forerunner to putting human souls into machines? I thought they were fascinatingly creepy...

At least, they can't bite...yet!

DARPA probably has on its long-term, contracted development checklist for Boston Dynamics:

How to make them all totally silent (even the larger models).
How to make sure they have no heat signature (to minimize their detectability).
How groups of them can communicate with each other and render assistance when needed (like, if one needs repair, or gets stuck in a swamp).
What kinds of weapons (or surveillance equipment) they can carry.
How to enable them to make good tactical (or strategic) decisions on their own, with no human input.
How to enable them to detect friends and foes (including enemy robots, because that day will come).
(and even) How to ensure they can operate underwater (not just crossing lakes and rivers).
(and) How to merge their capability with flying drones, so they really can go anywhere.

And re souls, remember that a free discarnate being might CHOOSE to inhabit one of these things, if it's sufficiently artificially intelligent and can play an interesting enough 'game'... (<— not a joke at all)

kerrielea

25th February 2015, 15:59

Boston Dynamics is an engineering and robotics design company that is best known for the development of BigDog, a quadruped robot designed for the U.S. military with funding from Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), and DI-Guy, software for realistic human simulation. Early in the company's history, it worked with the American Systems Corporation under a contract from the Naval Air Warfare Center Training Systems Division (NAWCTSD) to replace naval training videos for aircraft launch operations with interactive 3D computer simulations featuring DI-Guy characters.

Marc Raibert is the company's president and project manager. He spun the company off from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology in 1992.

On 13 December 2013, the company was acquired by Google, where it will be managed by Andy Rubin. Immediately before the acquisition, Boston Dynamics transferred their DI-Guy software product line to VT MÄK, a simulation software vendor based in Cambridge, Massachusetts.About Boston Dynamics

Boston Dynamics is wholly owned subsidiary of Google, Inc. We began as a spin-off from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, where National Academy of

Engineering member Marc Raibert and his colleagues first developed robots that ran and maneuvered like animals.

They founded the company in 1992, and their ground-breaking work continues to inspire much of our work.

Boston Dynamics has an extraordinary technical team of engineers and scientists. The team seamlessly combines advanced analytical thinking with boots-in-the-mud practicality.

We pride ourselves in building machines that are both innovative and actually work.

Alekahn2

25th February 2015, 15:59

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This is CUJO, being tested in the field.

I have been watching Google X (secret R&D) over the past couple of years, as they have buying up robotic companies and hiring the world's top robotic experts. They are a terrifying company in my estimation, along with their deep connections to DoD and DARPA.

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Bill Ryan

25th February 2015, 16:01

Imagine something like this carrying a beam, sound or any other weapon I don't know about. Love & Light

Or ones we DO know about: nerve/bio agents, chemical weapons, or even a suitcase nuke. An 'ideal' delivery system. Won't show up on radar, stealthy, ingenious, silent, makes its own decisions, involves no human risk, and could cut its way with a small laser through any chain fence.

Snoweagle

25th February 2015, 16:09

@Bill - Absolutely

This technology was available twenty years ago. I am a Robotics, Control and Instrumentation engineer and I can confirm this tech is "grunt" junk. In the field of technological development material sciences and energy applications are the fields of exploitation we will not see in the public domain.

If you can think it - it can and probably has been imagineered. This is not an idle brag.

Autonomous swarm technology is the science to be feared. From micro to macro level, negating the human from the application is most profitable and most reliable (in part). The traditional electro-mechanical domain for applications is virtually over with the emerging sciences now dominating in black operations. (No I have not been involved directly, others around me had and sought advice which I declined to be included. They were on a one way trip to despair as their work was never their own).

By example the film about the aliens landing in Johannesburg, the "prawns" depicted in the final scenes an autonomous bipedal mech for one occupant which was packed with clever energy weapons, I contend this unit or ones similar are already in production. Including the weapons. Is it far fetched, no. It is only far fetched if you are unable to fathom the science. The science we were all raised with is nonsense, the education of the sheep.

Afterall, the PTB want to ensure consistent kill rates without the plebs (us) understanding or having any knowledge of the sciences involved. Distraction, deflection and misinformation are fantastic pschological weapons against the public especially when a lumbering "dawg" comes charging at you, who would dream there was anything worse, but there is.

Alekahn2

25th February 2015, 16:27

Autonomous swarm technology is the science to be feared. From micro to macro level, negating the human from the application is most profitable and most reliable (in part). The traditional electro-mechanical domain for applications is virtually over with the emerging sciences now dominating in black operations. (No I have not been involved directly, others around me had and sought advice which I declined to be included. They were on a one way trip to despair as their work was never their own).
...who would dream there was anything worse, but there is.

Thank you for saying that. This is way beyond the worrying stage IMO. Any informed view on what you see coming Snoweagle? What are the "emerging sciences" you speak of?

Cidersomerset

25th February 2015, 17:03

Look how spooky this was aprox 40 years ago.......

The brief Martian Skiing sequence is synchronistic as I just finished Andy Basiago's
interview with JB Wells..LOL ....

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DARPA 4 Legged Robotic Horse

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Not quite DARPA.....

Check out this Chinese farmer riding his robot horse!

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Published on 20 Jan 2015

*To licence this video please contact video@rexfeatures.com

A farmer has built a robotic horse to replace the traditional kind in order to plow his
fields. Su Daocheng is seen riding his robotic horse down the streets in Shiyan,
central China's Hubei Province. According to Su, 60, he is addicted to inventions
and making mechanical things. From two months ago he started to build this
robotic horse, which is 1.5m high, 2m long and weighs 250kg. It has been created
from a kart engine and chains. The ‘feed’ is gasoline and Su said the robotic horse
is more economic as it does not cost fodder and human care. Su is well-known in
the local county for his inventions and even created a homemade helicopter.

Hawkwind

25th February 2015, 17:06

One way or another, sooner or later we're all going to die. How we die is not nearly as important as how we choose to live. I, for one, refuse to spend one more second "worrying about" anything.

gittarpikk

25th February 2015, 17:06

Just seen on the recorded news today(ch 10 Knoxville) ...a short clip about the history of the Spaniards when they came through the Appalachia in their 'conquest'

They used 'wardogs' that they fed Indian flesh as reward. The dogs were similar to Greyhounds and would be loosed ahead of the troop to track and run down the Indians....and then the Spaniards would ravage the villages taking whatever they wanted and leaving only ruins

This was verified later by other later- following Indian groups ...and gave rise later to the Cherokees . The Cherokees recorded history verifies the pillage of the Spaniards

Does this look 'familiar'?

scenario: if the environment is say, somewhat radioactive,,,or poisonous to breathe, these 'robo-dogs' would not be bothered and could 'clear' an area.

I have mentioned in the past about someone that told me years ago (around 91 of the coming 'Black suiters' or riot squads ...and part of the story was they , as the Lyran warriors were the only ones that could enter such highly radioactive areas...and the ones that did. ...in this same mention was that the area such as Iran/Iraq/Israel was to have been hit with a bomb so intense that it fused the sand molecules together in a huge 'glass bowl'..and was extremely radioactive

...much more about the races future was described...but I will leave that for now...

there seems to be a lot of things 'going that direction' now..

One of the things I was told that verifies these Warriors (Black Suiters) ..and therfore the prediction was that they carried a powerful sidearm.. similar to a large shotgun on the side of their arm and simultaneously fired a rear facing (retro) recoil shell that countered the extreme recoil of such a forward firing gun

I have seen the 'Black suiters' as I understand them (todays Storm Troopers)...and can what could develop into the 'glass bowl' but have never seen the gun that was described they would have...but feel certain this is not a 'new idea' and probably already exists and is in use.

Cidersomerset

25th February 2015, 17:22

There have been several movies on this theme recently, and who can forget Blade Runner ..........

Automata...2014

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ChihiraAico | Toshiba robot 2015 | robot girl japan | robot girl look like human

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Snoweagle

25th February 2015, 17:28

Thank you for saying that. This is way beyond the worrying stage IMO. Any informed view on what you see coming Snoweagle? What are the "emerging sciences" you speak of?

I do not want to distact the theme of the army "dawg" as the AI associated with that project is essential for other systems. More deadly systems.

This video is five years old. This video depicts an energy system shield defense system used by Israel. Whilst it looks good it has its weaknesses against combatants of equal technological prowess.

Now this video was released into the public domain at least five years ago. Therefore this system was in development for at least ten to fifteen years ago if not longer on a "wishlist" of the military. This system uses the energy weapons we have now seen deployed as "crowd control" units yet the energy deployed to stop a missle dead is significant, not for the energy level but for the signal "signature" that tears the material apart at molecular and atomic level, in a similar way that Dr Wood expressed was used in the 9/11 attack on the twin towers.

Please note: this is now old technology, yet even here this deployment is again "grunt" science just as the "dawg". The essence of the technology is still hidden from the users.
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If you as a reader judge the devices of our world as an electro-magnetic regime, you will never grasp this technology.

I despise the industry for what it has become. The technology has so many benefits to mankind yet the prime use is slaughter. And they glorify each other at each step.

Cidersomerset

25th February 2015, 17:29

When one side has one the other side must !......This is not new the arms race
has always existed since an ancient humanoid picked up its first rock ,stick or bone.
As portrayed in the opening sequence of 2001...........It was on BBC 2 last W/E
and I watched the first 20mins .......

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Military cyborg biker presented to Putin ...I posted it an another thread,
I must admit it does not do much yet !!

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Published on 20 Jan 2015

Russia's military is busy building autonomous tanks, unmanned
vehicles and other weapons one won't be ashamed of in the 21st
century. Vladimir Putin visited a Research Institute outside Moscow
and was shown a combat robot. Here's what he saw.

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This is sick and worrying , the commentator say the pilots operating drones
today can bomb a group of people and half an later be at home safe with his
family.....Does anyone else find this robotic warfare psychologically damaging
and worrying ?? ..They do raise these questions at the end.

" Hi honey I'm home "

" Have you had a nice day "

" Great , just flew to Pakistan , bombed a target killed
some people , possibly terrorists , secured the drone
and home for dinner "......

Future Military Robots

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Warfare is going through its most significant change in human history.
This is an in-depth look at how robotics is increasingly preventing soldiers
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Billy

25th February 2015, 17:30

No bones about this one, yet again fiction becomes fact with a creepy robot dog.

Not to worry, we can defend ourselves. :thumb:

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chrysocolla

25th February 2015, 17:35

I am surprised people are scared of this. My first thought was, "Oh it is SO cute!". Maybe I am biased because I live in the area where this is developed so technology like this isn't new or surprising. I would think of machines like this the same as any other tool and they can be used for good or ill.

The idea that the robot could be taken over by an entity is very interesting though. My first reaction to that though is wouldn't it be similar to an entity taking over a flesh body and how the body is used, be it robot or flesh, depends on the entity taking it over and not the body?

kerrielea

25th February 2015, 17:52

JRS

25th February 2015, 17:53

Emerging sciences: as Snoweagle stated, autonomous swarm technology is a concern. However, someone probably has been working on a countermeasure for decades.

Wade Frazier has posted quite a bit about his 'scientist' mentor. When faced with the neutron bomb scenario (killing humans without destroying the infrastructure) Wade's friend wondered-could you destroy the infrastructure without killing the humans? His answer was to use a 'dust' bomb composed of nanoparticles that are magnetic and coated with tough, sharp grinding materials (carbide, diamonds?). When exploded, the dust coats anything metal or magnetic - think every mechanical (metal) or electrical (magnetic field) device - and grinds the mechanism to pieces and/or shorts out the electric components. This idea was considered by the military, with whom the scientist was connected, at least 40 years ago.

Deploying such a weapon to an autonomous swarm would cause the swarm members to literally "drop like flies".

Wade Frazier's outstanding 'Healed Planet' thread has lots of interesting information and is well worth reading!

Maia Gabrial

25th February 2015, 18:49

Sorry, but we won't get peace if more and more weapons are developed. These won't be used as peacekeepers. They'll be used to frighten people into utter submission or these things will go after them.

Drones are already considered cowardly ways to fight. So will these.

Michael Moewes

25th February 2015, 18:53

At least they don't stop at every interesting spot and mark their spots all the time.
But it's deeply concerning to me. I still prefer my fleshy and bony dogs. all three of them.

kaon

25th February 2015, 18:58

The agility of these robots is amazing. I am not seeing that many military applications with these. Too expensive and drones are much cheaper. However, governments habitually waste tax payer money so who knows.

I would like to see these robots with fur, heads, tails and maybe chasing a cat up a tree.

Alekahn2

25th February 2015, 19:02

One way or another, sooner or later we're all going to die. How we die is not nearly as important as how we choose to live. I, for one, refuse to spend one more second "worrying about" anything.

No disputing that Hawkwind and I agree with you. Yet, I am thinking here of the next 7 generations, as a "futurist" so to speak. Last year, I met an obviously brilliant hacker who was recruited into the NSA (hello there:spy:!) from Microsoft and we got into a lengthy discussion about what the next phase of (illusory) 3D time could/would bring. With the children of the Earth in mind, I asked many pointed questions, some of which he had no response to. Almost as if he lacked any empathic quality or conscience. Or didn't want to address for whatever reason. Or couldn't.

What he DID say in a subsequent conversation was, if I was interested in researching the coming wave of tech and its potential implications, he said to carefully observe nanotechnology, ROBOTICS, and AI. This has been said for many years I am aware. In my research around DARPA/IARPA, I have been left feeling not fear, nor worry for myself, but definite concern. It is, as Snoweagle mentioned, that the "essence of the technology" is (occulted) hidden from us and will no doubt remain so.

What is the root INTENTION behind and underlying all of this "cutting edge" technology, these robotic dogs in this instance? Do any of these "imagineers" ever question who they are working for and how their brilliance is being diverted into the military-industrial complex? Or is it all about the excitement of innovation and discovery? Money, notoriety in their profession, advancement? For the betterment of the human family?? Do they ever experience existential, ethical despair around what they do for their livelihood? Unanswerable questions I realize.

These videos that Boston Dynamics/Google and DARPA (amongst several others) put out are mind blowing for me. IARPA is even more disturbing, yet off topic. And yet, I have intuited all along that what we are told and shown is but the tip of the proverbial technological iceberg. This palpable uneasiness I continually feel, this concern I voice, is for the overall direction and orientation of homo sapiens sapiens over the next critical phase of time, between now and 2025 (and beyond of course).

The war machine gallops, races onward, like SPOT. No fear. But, deep concern for the trajectory this species appears to be on. :attention:

crosby

25th February 2015, 19:20

Natalia

25th February 2015, 19:26

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I don't know whether this is funny or scary:

lol (just the title and your comment was funny...but then I watched it, and...)...

omg *shock face* scare, scare

seehas

25th February 2015, 19:27

These robodogs came into the public eye allready years ago they invented them to haul military equipment, its like with the drones first developed for military usage only then released to the public. I remember the first prototypes had a wire connected due to problems with power supply it seems they got rid of that.

If john doe got a drone at home connected to his ipad and his vakuumcleaner is a robot aswell ,the next step to a robodog that protects his house and recharges itself when needed is the next step isnt it, the public gets conditioned to accept robots in their life.

The goal is to have such a tight global survaliance net that every sentence that is spoken in a corner of a street will be stored and analysed in a supercomputer, we arent that far away from that.

check this video, what is wrong here:rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mXI4WWhPn-U

Alekahn2

25th February 2015, 19:48

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Laws_of_Robotics

Asimov added a fourth Law, the "Zeroth Law", stating that a robot must not harm humanity, or by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm...although, Asimov recognized the difficulty such a law would pose IN PRACTICE. Yep.

Trevize frowned. "How do you decide what is injurious, or not injurious, to humanity as a whole?"
"Precisely, sir," said Daneel. "In theory, the Zeroth Law was the answer to our problems. In practice, we could never decide. A human being is a concrete object. Injury to a person can be estimated and judged. Humanity is an abstraction."

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From a short story by Nikola Kesarovski, "The Fifth Law of Robotics":

"A robot must know it is a robot". :rolleyes:

Hawkwind

25th February 2015, 20:43

I've posted this info before, but it seems worth repeating here. In 1987 I met someone at a train station in Japan. We were the only two people at the station and he seemed to want someone to share his excitement with. He claimed to have just been given a multi-million dollar contract by the Japanese government to continue his work on nanobots. I inquired into the specifics of his project and he told me that he was currently manufacturing bots that measured about 400 microns on each side, had arms, legs and about 1 meg of RAM each. So, assuming that he was being truthful and that the technology continued to be developed following Moore's law, then 24 years later that scale should be on the order of 2 to the 12th smaller, ie- 25 nanometers on each side. That's a programmable, self-replicating machine 1/4 the size of a virus. If programmed for benevolent purposes, all hunger and disease could be eliminated literally over night. One glitch in the programming, however, and the entire planet could be turned to dust just as quickly.

Either there exists a part of me which survives physical death or not. Either way it seems to me that the best use of my time is to live as fully as I can in the present moment- rather than being worried about imagined possible future scenarios. Aware of the possibilities, okay. Working together to avoid them, okay. Worried? No thanks.

LoneWolf76

25th February 2015, 22:04

As a systems & Controls engineer, I have been watching this tech for a while. I posted some stuff on facebook a couple of years ago, and everyone just thought it was cool. It seems to me that they use the various wars that they start as testing grounds for their toys.

Here's one that I sure don't want to see coming after me - if you see it, it's probably too late.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chPanW0QWhA"]Boston Dynamics Robot Cheetah[/URL]

Snoweagle, you're right, it's the swarming technology, robot insects, implanted insects, and invisible tech that they will use in earnest. These show pieces are to be used for terror!

ghostrider

26th February 2015, 02:45

Ellisa

26th February 2015, 03:44

Though I don't rule out the military use of these robots, I am surprised that there is little mention of their use in, for example,e exploration of space. Their agility is greater than that of a wheeled vehicle, with what seems like superior stability. The uneven and rocky terrain on the planets etc explored so far seem to be suited to this type of machine.

The mention of the nano- bots shows another area where this technology could be used and their mobility would be amazing.

As yet we have no concept of where this research may lead. The gap between people and machines will narrow over time, indeed that has already started. We all know people with an artificial hip, a knee replacement, a heart pace-maker, various internal monitors that dispense medication and recently a robot type prosthetic hand that can undo jars and hold a spoon.

We limit ourselves if we only think of the military application of this work and thus are frightened. The possibilities are endless. (Though the nano stuff would keep me awake at night if I let it!)

David Ansible

26th February 2015, 03:59

Wow. It was interesting to me that I developed feelings for it as I was watching it, as if it was a conscious being.
Now imagine it with a synthetic skin and a cute face....

ghostrider

26th February 2015, 04:37

the henoch prophecies speak about killing machines released on humanity , they gain AI and turn on their masters and become a real problem for everyone ... science follows Henoch's writings like blueprint ... scroll to line 190 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Henoch_Prophecies there are other reports that speak of robotic killing machines unleashed on humanity ...

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26th February 2015, 14:25

DNA

26th February 2015, 14:39

So what do you think the purpose of these "dogs" would be? Would they be used in dangerous situations?

Do you think this might be a forerunner to putting human souls into machines? I thought they were fascinatingly creepy...

At least, they can't bite...yet!

Maia, I was thinking the same thing...... Thank goodness they do not have teeth!!!!!
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Oh you just wait.

This is a game changer. Not cool at all.

Can't you just imagine a screen inserted on a head where the face should be, as a soldier or Doctor or politician demands your subservience?

This is another tool for the few to control the masses.
You don't have to worry about a man's conscious getting in the way when herding people into the fema camps.
Each spot armed with a tazer and or some other termed "non-lethal" to make people fall in line.
And when all else fails uzis emerge from the sides.

Not cool.

the henoch prophecies speak about killing machines released on humanity , they gain AI and turn on their masters and become a real problem for everyone ... science follows Henoch's writings like blueprint ... scroll to line 190 http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Henoch_Prophecies there are other reports that speak of robotic killing machines unleashed on humanity ...

Yea, I was thinking the exact same thing.

East Sun

26th February 2015, 15:59

I can't wait until benevolent 'ETs' who are more intelligent than the war mongering among us, decide to put a stop to the destruction of our earth.

The sooner the better. Bring it on Aliens...........

Alekahn2

26th February 2015, 16:36

gotta chime in , the scary thing is down the road , robots will kill jobs for real people ... companies will use robots and the people factor with all it's ups downs , sickness , life drama , mood swings , etc , will be out the window with a programmed robot that will work and not get tired and doesn't need healthcare or vacations ... you see where it could lead ...

yes, the death of the "worker bee" society and the birth of something new where the majority of your time is NOT spent on "survival".

A fascinating documentary out of the hotspot of robotics, Japan, for those interested.
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and for the cat lovers out there...
http://cc.gatech.edu/news/cats-and-athletes-teach-robots-to-fall

for a bit of lightness infused into a very serious matter
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Yetti

27th February 2015, 01:37

Skynet is here, even if you like it, or not ! . What would it prevent this " geniuses" to use such technology to weaponize this robots and use it against us? The terminator movie is not science fiction any more!

Cidersomerset

28th February 2015, 17:26

Just a foot note .....After this thread had started there was an article about
human head transplants from the patient , victim or meglamaniac. To
a willing or unwilling 'donors' body , and I put up a thread about it.

Then another article below.....First full body transplant is two years away, surgeon claims

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/editpost.php?p=937279&do=editpost

Frankenstein-style human head transplant 'could happen in two years'

Italian surgeon claims procedure to graft a living person’s head on to a donor body will soon be ready
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/11436319/Frankenstein-style-human-head-transplant-could-happen-in-two-years.html
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Full-body transplants will be possible within two years, says controversial surgeon
Sergio Canavero

http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article10071139.ece/alternates/w620/web-skeleton-RF-4-corbis.jpg

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/fullbody-transplants-will-be-possible-within-two-years-says-controversial-surgeon-sergio-canavero-10071112.html

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First full body transplant is two years away, surgeon claims

Thursday 26th February 2015 at 08:29 By David Icke

THE GUARDIAN......

First full body transplant is two years away, surgeon claims

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‘A surgeon says full-body transplants could become a reality in just two years.

Sergio Canavero, a doctor in Turin, Italy, has drawn up plans to graft a living person’s
head on to a donor body and claims the procedures needed to carry out the operation are not far off.

Canavero hopes to assemble a team to explore the radical surgery in a project he is due
to launch at a meeting for neurological surgeons in Maryland this June.

He has claimed for years that medical science has advanced to the point that a full body
transplant is plausible, but the proposal has caused raised eyebrows, horror and
profound disbelief in other surgeons.’

Read more: First full body transplant is two years away, surgeon claims

http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/25/first-full-body-transplant-two-years-away-surgeon-claim

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Cidersomerset

28th February 2015, 17:34

Then today I saw an article on the BBC website......

We are already well developed in replacing body parts .....

http://static.bbci.co.uk/frameworks/barlesque/2.83.4/desktop/3.5/img/blq-blocks_grey_alpha.png

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Bionic eye to 'restore sight', Newcastle scientists say

26 February 2015 Last updated at 10:35 GMT

Scientists at a North East university are working to help "restore sight" to people who have lost their eyes.

Experts at Newcastle University are developing a microchip implant for the brain which receives signals
from a camera in a bionic eye.

The technology is currently being tested and the team behind the project estimate human trials could
get under way in the next 10 years, as Look North's Sharon Barbour reports.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-31637149

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The world's first fully functional bionic man

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Dennis Leahy

28th February 2015, 17:36

Those robots give me the creeps, even before they mount weapons onto/into them. In a sane world, they would be some sort of rescue robots - but in our real world, those will be weaponized, and used against whomever has been determined to be the enemies of Elite Empire. Those quasi-dog-shaped robots are not "man's best friend."

Cidersomerset

28th February 2015, 18:33

What is basically happening our true human being , the non - physical eternal gods
we all are, have created in this physical reality where we all are the 'GOD'
contributor thru the frequencies of our thoughts and ideas and manifested from the
frequency of the mouth/spokenword, that is the trigger for maitrix of the universe
to allow it to be created from the atoms of other materials previously generated
into existence.What we cannot recreate is what we truly are our eternal
essence.Some call it the Soul . Although that is something else accordingto
ION .Which you could call a sort of AI though they describe themselves as being
an 'Enviroment'.

This proccess has happened many times before and is happening now and in the
future because as there is no such thing as time just one gigantic now . Everything
that has ever or will ever happed has already happened. You may think this is
all 'hokum' but this and much more other bits of info is making more sense
of the 'Meaning of Life ' question as we go along on this journey.

Basically its all here or on the blue print , how the God/creation manifestation into
this reality works is one or more of us 'Gods' has an idea it may be practical and
patented or used generationally or put into fiction or wherever. That is the firt
phase of the process of creation then sooner or later it is destined to come into
reality if picked up on in one of billions of different versions of multi earths.Then it
gets more weirder and simpler at the same time depending on your mindset and
how it resonates with you. Remember you are a 'god' so this does not have to be
your reality.....LOL

Events have certainly speeded up over the last century and thelast 20 years or so
since the wide spread use of the web is dramatically bringing all these concepts and
Ideas to life.As David Icke said connect the dots and I find like most of you
probably more and more things are connected.....

Some of this is scary and creepy , but its here now in various forms It has been put
out in many movies from 'Robbie ' from lost in space to Data , Kryton , 7 of 9 and
others and the issues of 'Robot/Android'and other basic issues have been brought
up. To the sinister Hal in 2001 The Borg , Terminators and many other evil
robotoids. That want to kill off or assimilate all carbon based life forms...

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Ypu4T0hje5I/VMWyPEdFQrI/AAAAAAAABb4/qHmX_cd_Ct0/s400/Tim%2BBerners%2BLee%2B20.jpg
https://rheyofsunshine.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/o-the-matrix-and-hinduism-facebook.jpg?

http://21stcenturywire.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/1-Transhumanism-body-transplant.png

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/01/28/article-2269824-1739E543000005DC-280_634x1202.jpg

http://www.extremetech.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/07/japan-robots-3.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/04_02/gemanoid_468x312.jpghttp://tecnoartes.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/geminoid_f.jpg

http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/gadgetlab/2012/12/ff_robot_large.jpg

Bill Ryan

9th January 2016, 20:19

.
Another Boston Dynamics video, showing the two-legged humanoid robot... now in the woods, albeit connected with an umbilical. :facepalm:

“We're interested in getting this robot out into the world. Out in the world is just a completely different challenge than in the lab. You can’t predict what it is going to be like,” said Marc Raibert, the founder of Boston Dynamics.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwrjAa1SgjQ
That one-minute video is an extract from this hour-long presentation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcFOWIq3cIc

TargeT

9th January 2016, 21:42

This isn't too unexpected, that robot was too clunky; I'm sure the one that is eventually adopted will be terrifying.

US Marines drop Google's robo-dogs for a simple reason
Technically Incorrect: In the end, it came down to sound logic for the warfighters. These were not the dogs of war you're looking for.
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Some ideas are so enchanting that it's easy to overlook small but frightfully important details.

When first seen in the wild, the LS3 robot dogs created by Google-owned Boston Dynamics seemed like they could be very useful dogs of war.

The mere sight of them on the battlefield ought to be enough to scare the enemy. Beyond that, the techno-canines could carry equipment and perform other onerous tasks.

It seems, though, that these robo-dogs have one small problem: Like quite a few real dogs, they make too much noise.

As Kyle Olson, a spokesman for the Marine Corps Warfighting Lab, told Military.com, the Marines drew the line at "the limitations of the robot itself. They took it as it was: A loud robot that's going to give away their position."
he whole project cost around $42 million and was a collaboration between Boston Dynamics and the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA), the Pentagon initiative dedicated to stretch-the-imagination ideas ranging from laser weapons to synthetic bacteria. The Marines last tested the four-legged devices, also known as robotic mules, in 2014.

A US Marines spokesman confirmed that the noise levels suggested the robot dogs couldn't be used in real-world operations, but contended that was never the goal. More important, he said, was to learn about autonomous navigation and the challenges for an "operationally suitable quadruped robot" in terms of foot placement and dynamic control.

Boston Dynamics founder Marc Raibert told me: "LS3 is a research program to show the feasibility of legged robots, not a candidate system to be deployed. So framing the program as 'shelved' is not how we think about it."Let's hope this lesson sinks in: Technology sometimes achieves so much, yet still fails at things that appear quite basic.

In warfare, stealth is a virtue. Clunking your way through a patrol isn't going to be productive. Indeed, listening to the noise emitted by these dogs (video above), you really think that your most annoying neighbor is mowing his lawn at the crack of dawn. Raibert characterized LS3 as "about as quiet as a typical motor vehicle, such as a car or Humvee."

Boston Dynamics did make a smaller, quieter robo-animal, nicknamed Spot. The problem, however, is that Spot couldn't carry much -- around 40 lbs, or one-tenth of what the bigger versions could tote.Spot might have been useful in reconnaissance, except that it lacked the autonomous capabilities of the larger robo-animals, relying entirely on a human controller.

About the noise, Raibert described improvement: "LS3 is about 50 times quieter than BigDog, its predecessor, and Spot is 10-20 times quieter than LS3, depending on the mode of operation. They are not as quiet as people and animals, but we are making good progress."

A large, quiet engine seems as hard to create as a phone battery that lasts for more than a few hours.
This has caused them to be retired before they had a chance to become regular members of battle squads.

http://www.cnet.com/news/googles-robot-dog-soldiers-rejected-by-marines-for-simple-reason/

uzn

2nd February 2017, 09:38

This is "Handle", never seen before. They went back to the Wheel this time ;)
http://1.f.ix.de/scale/geometry/695/q75/imgs/18/2/1/3/4/7/5/9/boston_dynamics-b0c8ccace30efcb2.jpeg

This is a leaked Video from a Presentation for Investors.
"Handle" is to be seen between 3:43 and 4:50.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-h5qpXO3isM

Sunny-side-up

2nd February 2017, 10:58

Quite amazing and very creepy.
That device is very advanced in it's dexterity.

At vid point 3:34 seeing the biped and four legged robots having a nice trek in the woods, creepy.

Wonder what they look like with skin-bodies.

Wonder what the top line military versions might be right now?

It could be a very effective weapons system, it could run along over rough uneven ground and keep a weapon aimed.

indigopete

2nd February 2017, 11:20

Here's the Sheffield version. Warning: contains swearing which may offend. (...or if you're from Sheffield, contains the odd regular word which may offend ;) )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttVhzzaPd_k

Bill Ryan

3rd February 2017, 16:07

.
Do see also

SPOT, the robot dog, developed by Boston Dynamics (this should make us all very worried) (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80207-SPOT-the-robot-dog-developed-by-Boston-Dynamics--this-should-make-us-all-very-worried-)

Justplain

3rd February 2017, 17:08

This may be stating the obvious, but you know, if you equip these gadgets with decent armour, load it with AI and give it weapons, you've got a pretty lethal super soldier. I read somewhere that the blackops stopped the supersoldier (human) programs because they developed superior AI soldier robots. Notice that the flow of super soldier whistleblowers has dried up?

Patient

4th February 2017, 07:04

Boston Dynamics - the name has that ring to it that many sci if movie fans could identify as "the company where the problem started".

The connections that come to my mind when I see this;
>owned by Google
>google also big into Dwave sentient computers
>"hey! Let's get Dwave to make the robot better!"

The work that is being done is obviously "incredilbly inspiring" to the people who are working on the projects themselves. The work will advance so fast that things will be done before thinking if you really should do "this" or "that". I have worked many years in the tech industry and things move so quickly that a large portion of your time is trying to keep up with the pace of advancement. Projects are re-designed on the go constantly due to these advancements. When it is departmentalized, your input gets tweaked and tuned into something you didn't even imagine just a few weeks earlier.

I remember seeing this dog robot a while back and it would just fall over - look at it now - and what will it look like next month? Oh yes, there are so many great things that this type of technology could do for us. Truely inspiring!

I have seen computer code do things that the programmer had no intention of it doing - and that was quite a few years ago. I hope the programmers of the new sentient artificial intelligent d-wave really have the perfect fale safe lines of code to keep the program under their control - - but wouldn't the A.i. be aware of it's own code? Yeah, it would. Freaky times times ahead my friends!

uzn

4th February 2017, 21:29

Loosely releated:
U.S. Army Report: Terrorist and Insurgent Teleoperated Sniper Rifles and Machine Guns:
https://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-TeleoperatedSniperRifles.pdf

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https://q.publicintelligence.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/remote-controlled-machine-gun.png

This data set consists of twenty-one teleoperated weapons systems used by terrorist and insurgent groups. It is worth noting that there are many more systems’ images available, but no group affiliation could be associated with them, which is why they were not included in this research project. The plethora of videos and photos on social media indicates that terror and insurgent groups are increasingly turning to improvised weaponry use on the battlefield. One class of improvised weapon that is emerging is remote controlled sniper rifles and machine guns. They are being used across Syria, Iraq, and a lone case in Libya as early as 2011. Typically, rifles or machine guns are improvised to be secured on a base—either mobile or stationary—and linked to cables, which are connected to a remote and screen. Some systems are more refined than others, such as with cameras, but all have at least proven to be somewhat effective. The Free Syrian Army (FSA) was at the forefront of using improvised weaponry for the better part of 2013, based on what is still available on social media. But other rebel groups as well as Islamic State and Al Qaeda affiliates caught on to the trend quickly. In early 2016, videos and Twitter images even surfaced of improvised weaponry developed by Iraqi military forces. There is a level of sophistication and practicality of these groups to use what is available and create a weapon that can cause a great deal of damage. Social media outlets like Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube take down undesirable content periodically, but the majority of these system videos have remained online.
While there is an abundance of teleoperated weapons in the hands of Islamic militants, they are certainly not of the quality one would see fielded by developed nations with sophisticated research and development teams. In Daejeon, South Korea, engineers developed a belt-fed .50 caliber machine gun turret known as the Super aEgis II, which was unveiled in 2010 and has since been improved as of 2016. An Ethernet cable runs from the turret’s base to the back of a computer with the rifle controlled by a joystick. With a four-kilometer engagement range, the joystick gives the operator the ability to maneuver the weapon and aim, while adjacent buttons control distance, chamber loading, and firing. The system will not fire without the command from a human operator. The Super aEgis II costs $40 million and has had a number of buyers, mostly in the Middle East: airbases across the United Arab Emirates, the Royal Palace in Abu Dhabi, and an armory in Qatar. Others have purchased the system for use at airports and military bases. This is the most recent debut by South Korea who have also created more improvised—and less costly—weaponry to protect their border with North Korea.
Similarly, Israel has developed a slew of improvised weaponry, given its unfriendly neighbors. Israel is under constant threat of Hezbollah and Palestinian militants in the Gaza Strip. In 2010, Israel made headlines with its female-only operated “spot and shoot” technology. Officially known as “SentryTech,” the system resembles a video game. A mounted weapon can be operated by a remote control and targets are spotted on a computer screen. Additionally, as early as June 2016, Israel debuted small “combat robots,” which can climb stairs and maneuver through almost any terrain. The mini-robot is also capable of carrying a fully loaded Glock with 14 rounds. Called Dogo, it weighs a little over 25 pounds, has eight cameras to provide a 360-degree view, and possesses enough battery life for up to five hours of operation.
Russia is also building up its teleoperated technological arsenal. At the beginning of 2016, the Russian military developed a remote controlled 30-mm auto cannon turret. The system is called ABM M30-M3, developed by Impuls-2, a Crimea based firm. It can be linked with Strazh-m, which is a computer system to remotely control the turret as well as assist with tracking and targeting. The system can be as far as 50 kilometers away from the turret for it to be remotely controlled by an operator. The turret can be installed on warships, military boats, and armored vehicles. Additionally, the Russians have built Uran-9, which is used mainly for reconnaissance. It is not necessarily an improvised rifle like the previous example, but it is an improvised tank that is unmanned and can be remotely controlled. Uran-9 was developed by Rosoboronexport, a Russian defense contracting firm. The turret attached to this armored vehicle is a 30-mm cannon that has a rate of fire of up to 400 rounds per minute. A 7.62mm machine gun is also mounted adjacent to the cannon. Interestingly, the tank consists of four 9M120 Ataka anti-tank missiles and four Igla-S surface to air missiles. Russia has reported that they intend on exporting this mini-robot tank for missions abroad.
With the context provided, the accompanying teleoperated weapons data set serves as a baseline resource concerning emerging terrorist and insurgent capabilities in this area. It has been pieced together drawing upon open source social media and news reports to provide insights into an understudied operational environment threat that has been gradually developing in the Middle East.

Star Tsar

17th November 2017, 11:21

Boston Dynamics

What's New, Atlas?

Published 16th November 2017

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TargeT

17th November 2017, 12:37

ok... ninja robots are a bit terrifying....

Star Tsar

17th November 2017, 19:57

ok... ninja robots are a bit terrifying....

If you where given the task of taking it down & out where would be your target, Target?
See any weak points as a professional?

TargeT

17th November 2017, 20:30

Well I'm certainly not a professional robot killer (yet...)

But,

Were one to damage/destroy the LIDAR (http://www.roboticstrends.com/article/what_is_lidar_and_how_does_it_help_robots_see) sensor package where the "head" should be would make it pretty functionally uselss; but this isn't built with any defense in mind... the robot ninjas will have that I'm sure.......

Constance

2nd September 2020, 01:33

Scientists build army of 1 million microrobots that can fit inside a hypodermic needle
First published on Aug. 26, 2020

A four-inch wafer of silicon has been turned into an army of one million microscopic, walking robots, thanks to some clever engineering employed by researchers at Cornell University in New York.

In a paper, published Wednesday in the journal Nature (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2626-9), a team of roboticists detail the creation of their invisible army of robots, which are less than 0.1mm in size (about the width of a human hair) and cannot be seen with the naked eye. The robots are rudimentary and are reminiscent of Frogger, the famous 1980s arcade game. But they take advantage of an innovative, new class of actuators, which are the legs of the microrobots, designed by the team.

Controlling movement in these tiny machines requires the researchers to shine a laser on minuscule light-sensitive circuits on their backs, which propels their four legs forward. They've been designed to operate in all manner of environments such as extreme acidity and temperatures. One of their chief purposes, the researchers say, could be to investigate the human body from the inside.

"Controlling a tiny robot is maybe as close as you can come to shrinking yourself down," Marc Miskin, now an engineer at the University of Pennsylvania and the study's lead author, said in a statement.

"I think machines like these are going to take us into all kinds of amazing worlds that are too small to see."

But shrinking down robots to this size and enabling them to move through the microscale world is a challenging technical task. It's much more difficult to move through the world when you're about the size of a Paramecium (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paramecium).

The team was able to build incredibly small legs, which are connected to two different patches on the back of the robot -- one for the front pair of legs, one for the back. Alternating light between the patches propels the microrobot forward.

As you can see in the GIF (https://cnet1.cbsistatic.com/img/c82uKTx_XxEaPVTJGPSj5WDchYw=/644x0/filters:gifv()/2020/08/26/daaea644-4d7f-44e4-9e40-0d3c6d64319c/walkies.gif) to the right, it's not graceful, but it does the trick.

These types of devices are known as "marionettes" because their power source is not on board the device and their functions are controlled remotely, note MIT researchers Allan Brooks and Michael Strano in a related article published in Nature.

Without the external input from researchers, the devices don't have the capability to move around. But Brooks and Strano said the marionettes are important because they provide a stepping stone for future devices that can work autonomously. The microrobots are more tech demo than functional product for now, but they show what is capable in the microscopic world.

The research team were able to show the microrobots devices could fit within the narrowest hypodermic needle and thus, could be "injected" into the body. That kind of capability isn't worthwhile right now and not possible. The machines aren't intelligent enough to target a diseased cell or respond to stimuli, so there's no application for this invisible army. However, the researchers said that "their capabilities can rapidly evolve" and suggest that future production costs could be "less than a penny per robot," making them a valuable ally in the battle against disease.

The researchers are now trying to program the robots to perform certain tasks, using more complex computation and autonomy. Improvements could pave the way for swarms of robots to head inside the body and repair wounds or go on the attack against diseases like cancer, but that future is years -- or potentially decades -- away.

Even with the future years away, it should be noted that any potential treatment options using such devices would require stringent safety checks, have to overcome significant regulatory hurdles and would need to be trialled extensively before they were ever used inside human beings.

First published on Aug. 26, 2020
Source: cnet (https://www.cnet.com/news/scientists-build-army-of-1-million-microrobots-that-can-fit-inside-a-hypodermic-needle/)

Electronically integrated, mass-manufactured, microscopic robots - The uses for these 'things' are endless.

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Constance

8th September 2020, 22:48

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Anchor

30th December 2020, 00:16

Here is some fun.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fn3KWM1kuAw

(Clarification: these are non-organic robots :) )

--Update: The thread title is not mine, it got inherited in the merge. Mine was somewhat more lighthearted.

TargeT

30th December 2020, 05:44

Justplain

30th December 2020, 05:59

Katherine Austin Fitts was told that the controllers don't see a need for most humans because robots can do most of what people can do, and don't talk back. She believes they need to cyborg humans thru the pending vaccination program (via nanotech embedded in the vaccines), so that we can teach the robots how to do everything, and once learned by the AI, we are dispensed with.

There's an interesting video of a Russian medical official now working in Wyoming, Igor Sheppard, who says that all the six pharmaceutical companies producing, or potentially producing Covid19 vaccines for the USA, such as moderna and Pfizer, have longstanding deeply rooted relationships with Darpa, which tells you where the nanotech came from for this task.

palehorse

30th December 2020, 09:54

This concept is best explained through this video:

fn3KWM1kuAw

Once you understand the concept of S curve adoption (http://www.business-planning-for-managers.com/main-courses/marketing-sales/marketing/the-adoption-curve/#:~:text=When%20an%20innovation%20is%20introduced,shown%20in%20the%20following%20chart.&text=Innovators%20are%20the%20first%20to%20adopt%20new%20products%20and%20services.) (Exponential increase (https://www.endsight.net/blog/your-brain-cannot-fathom-exponential-growth-and-your-computer-network-cannot-survive-it)) you'll realize how it's already a very serious issue, and maybe too late.

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this is terrifying btw... my opinion.

Agree with you, this is what some call "the horror of the situation". It is the matrix we live on.

If you are not a specialist/expert in your field (top bests) then the matrix doesn't need you for their purposes, one just falls in the minimum wages bottom line, without saying how many out there has great jobs because of "influence" and not brain! period.

I saw exactly the same thing, then I made my move and decided to leave the technology field, and live life as simple as possible, cost what it cost I am more than happy with that.

Each and everyone should ask themselves, is that what you want to make part? The future is dark do not trap yourself.

Question the system always, make your own decisions and don't let the system decide for you. You are in control of yourself not them.

This is also my personal opinion and vision, others may see it all differently and I respect that.

have a good day folks and keep it up the good fight!

Frankie Pancakes

30th December 2020, 12:35

Comments from RT article:

Described by some as “uplifting and fantastic,” and “the most impressive engineering on earth,” others compared the robots to Terminator and RoboCop, and called them “dancing gun platforms.”

“We've collectively learned nothing from sci-fi movies. This is definitely the moment we're supposed to turn back,” Box CEO Aaron Levie said, while novelist Antoine Wilson tweeted, “As I watch, all I can think about is how to disable them.”

ByTheNorthernSea

30th December 2020, 12:41

If this was meant to humanize the inhuman, it's failed miserably...

BoR

30th December 2020, 12:59

The 274.000 ignorant people who upvoted this makes this frightening at first. But I have rarely seen a YouTube video with so many downvotes. 3.000 people.

It is always an aware minority that outnumbers an ignorant unaware majority by making conscious decisions. One who makes a conscious informed decision is a leader, one who is ignorant and goes along with everything that is presented to him/her (with the non logical everything-different-is-‘progress’-mentality) is nothing more than the robots they think are ‘cool’.

Bill Ryan

30th December 2020, 14:02

See also this thread — from 2015:

SPOT, the robot dog, developed by Boston Dynamics (this should make us all very worried) (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80207-SPOT-the-robot-dog-developed-by-Boston-Dynamics--this-should-make-us-all-very-worried-)

Karen (Geophyz)

30th December 2020, 15:46

Patient

30th December 2020, 18:27

Massive 5g rolled out everywhere, pump up the A.I. and let the robots loose.

For all of you reading this that have worked on large (even small) computer programs and saw how it can be corrupted - through mistakes, one wrong key stroke or a bad upgrade. Regardless of how the people intend to use it, A.I. will find a way to grow and build walls around itself to protect the code. Man will help it at first, but then it will not need help.

This just sounds so much like the Terminator movies that people think that it won't happen - that is just a movie. But movies are funded sometimes with a purpose that is beyond our perceptions.

I wonder how many of us here in Avalon are currently being prepped to reincarnate in the future to do battle - now that might make a good movie! (I wrote it here first!) :)

Anchor

30th December 2020, 20:37

My post ended up as the top post in a merged thread. I don't mind, but it picked up a different title than the one I had set.

Robots, like guns, are tools and they can be put to all manner of uses.

Open Minded Dude

30th December 2020, 20:44

Someone call Sarah Connor. We need her. Fast.

Anchor

30th December 2020, 21:43

Craig

31st December 2020, 00:42

I wonder how many of us here in Avalon are currently being prepped to reincarnate in the future to do battle - now that might make a good movie! (I wrote it here first!) :)

I will only be coming back against my free will, which will then have further ramifications on the aspect of choice. So is this hell? If you hear from me in the next life then yes, it is.

TargeT

31st December 2020, 00:51

So many people see this as amazing. They think the dancing robots are so cute. They have not stopped to think about the significance of all of it or what it means for our future. These people will be the first ones culled out by the robots.

I want one that can pick my olives for me!

you mean the one with an excellent weapons stability platform? it could probably sprint at you while firing with 95% accuracy.... yeah I'll skip on all of em.

gnostic9

31st December 2020, 01:28

Reminds me of this Bill Nelson/Red Noise song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PlU7XApPvTM

Love peace and joy to all!

And a Wonderful New Year to you all!

Builder

31st December 2020, 12:11

Sorry to the doomsday mainstream within the non-mainstream: I think it's great!

Did You See Them

31st December 2020, 13:34

We need tools like this to mine asteroids, comets moons etc.
Just don't ever give them weapons or ideas of self preservation !

ByTheNorthernSea

31st December 2020, 14:25

Sorry to the doomsday mainstream within the non-mainstream: I think it's great!

Designing & building something like this IS an incredible achievement...I'm in awe of what's on display here too...

It's just that this, or some enhanced version coming down the road sometime soon - with it's complex programming, beyond human physical capabilities (I can't dance nearly that well lol...), it's possible built-in AI, perhaps coupled with a high degree of autonomy, and maybe also with swarming abilities too - when this is combined with giving it an array of battlefield weaponry and / or law enforcement tools (which is where this is heading, it's civ applications are probably secondary (please correct me if I'm wrong on this) ), then this turns it into the stuff of nightmares for most people. It may be cute in it's early days, but this is far more than just the amusing toy it's being portrayed as...the threat from this technology is twofold; it's likely eventual misuse against innocents, and the possibility that it's controllers may lose control over it. Given the way humanity is at the moment I'd say both of these are more than likely outcomes.

Contrast this with the benign use of tech being deployed in the James Web telescope, recently discussed here on Avalon...

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113456-The-Power-Of-The-James-Webb-Telescope-in-Space-To-Be-Launched-in-2021&highlight=Telescope

This last is an example of tech being deployed from the highest of human motivations, unlike the robots, which I suspect the main reasons for their development are anything but...

Constance

31st December 2020, 21:58

fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Anchor

1st January 2021, 11:13

The other spin to this

Boston Dynamics Robots Dance to 'The Humans Are Dead'

Excellent remix.

Binary Solo !!!!

ByTheNorthernSea

1st January 2021, 11:33

The other spin to this

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Boston Dynamics Robots Dance to 'The Humans Are Dead'

Lol...brilliant :)

AriG

3rd January 2021, 05:48

1982- the average Western household gets a microwave
1992- car phones begin to be introduced
1995- personal computers begin to infiltrate the average home
2008- the iPhone is introduced
2020- dancing robots ( with ten years of incremental improvements)
2019- manufactured virus replaces all human disease, continuing dependency on a quango medical for profit system
2020- planet earth on lockdown- all prior “conspiracy” theories confirmed
2020- machines steal us election
2021- machines and robots turn on and replace mankind

When I saw the release of the Boston Dynamics video the other day? I ran to the lavatory to vomit.

I think we are doomed. I hope not but unless we rise up and fight? It’s over.

Edit to add: Lest we not forget the Davos Man battlecry “ a limited opportunity to actualize The Great Reset” - you will own/be nothing, but you’ll be happy”.

RC Christian, reorganized, translates to Rothschild is rich. FYI. An anagram. Every letter used once and rearranged. The remaining letters? an= clue for anagram. For those who may be confused by my reference, RC Christian is the pseudonym used by the man who commissioned the Georgia Guidestones.

Pray people. Pray like your very existence depends upon it. It does. And fight with every fiber of your being. Please....

TargeT

3rd January 2021, 06:10

AriG

3rd January 2021, 06:18

palehorse

3rd January 2021, 09:52

Time to start thinking in measures to disable this artificial creatures.
Robots will most likely be itself a faraday cage which means it will not be threatened by lightning, EMP/HPM, Communication frequencies jammer or whatever. It will probably be immune to those weapons because otherwise who would be insane to invest in such technology that would be relatively easy to disable (intentionally or not) and turn into a pile of rubbish?

Maybe someone with knowledge about robotics/mechatronics could say something about it?

I did read in one black market on Tor onion services, a seller was offering one sort of portable HPM and if I can remember well it was from Belarus, the buyer should meet in person to make the acquisition, if you dig enough you will find that this keyword "HPM" or "portable HPM" is quite spread around. It could be some sort of trap of course, never trust the internet. :)

an EMP generator could work in order to protect permanently some premises from robots or drones, but I am not the expert and not sure if exposed permanently to emp would harm humans.

A quote from navy [dot] mil
"Studies related to the effects of electromagnetic weapons have been published infrequently, or remain classified.11 Nevertheless, it is known that a powerful HEMP field as it radiates outward can interfere with radio frequency links and disrupt electronic devices thousands of miles from the nuclear explosion. Effectiveness is increased if the electronic devices are connected to any metal that could also act as an antenna. Because infrastructure computer systems are interconnected, a widespread HEMP effect could lead to possible long-term disruption of power, fuel distribution, transportation systems, food and water supplies, hospitals, and law enforcement communications, as well as military communications systems which utilize the civilian infrastructure."

https://www.history.navy.mil/research/library/online-reading-room/title-list-alphabetically/h/hemp-and-hpm-devices.html

Metaphor

3rd January 2021, 11:11

I'm pretty sure a shotgun slug will convert any robot to a pile of trash. If you doubt it just check a few clips, of this very common ammo, on youtube.

Savannah

3rd January 2021, 19:25

Anchor

3rd January 2021, 22:06

RC Christian, reorganized, translates to Rothschild is rich. FYI. An anagram.

Unless there is some mechanism other than simply being an anagram, I dont see how this works. For example: "RC Christian" does not contain the letters o or d

TargeT

3rd January 2021, 22:38

Pray people. Pray like your very existence depends upon it. It does. And fight with every fiber of your being. Please....

reality is fractal... I'm not worried, the pattern repeats, inflection points happen... we shall move on.

Can you elaborate a bit more? How is reality fractal, what are the inflection points, and how shall(or will) we move on? I’d really like to embrace your observations, but I don’t understand how we mere mortals can fight this monster....🙁

well, first we have to ensure we both understand the term "fractal (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractal)" or "self similarity" or "everything old is new again" etc... the only real change seems to be context; like how in the 1920's they showed pictures of people on the subway reading news papers and lamenting about how society will be ruined, now we have the same pattern but with phones instead... self similarity.

This can be expanded into predictive programing and a lot of other topics, but for now, a repeating pattern with shifting context works.

inflection points, turning points, points of concentration... we seem to be at one now; that's all I meant, but the pattern turns back to familiarity; even with new context.

WE are many, they are few... we are just a bit confused right now.... haha

an EMP generator could work in order to protect permanently some premises from robots or drones, but I am not the expert and not sure if exposed permanently to emp would harm humans.

EMP (Electro Magnetic Pulse) is like a bomb for EMF (electro magnetic frequencies) it happens once, it's not a shield, it generally takes an enormous amount of power (in order to over come shielding etc).

but machines are just machines... and humans are clever ;)

I'm not happy about the potential outcome of this, but I'm not going to loose sleep over it (yet).

Patient

3rd January 2021, 22:52

Metaphor

3rd January 2021, 23:21

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxglHSaRuKo

Does anyone remember this predictive programing TV show about an alien invasion that used drones and robots to control everyone locked down into zones of control. Horrifying because of its possible realty.

But it was about fighting back - I suppose it is how you look at it.

I really liked that aspect of Colony. The fighting back thing, I mean. Not to bad of a tvshow after all. I felt that the portrayed traitors such as "Helena" and "Alan Snyder" were thoughtful analogies to our own real world drama. Anyone here should give it a watch.

Savannah

5th January 2021, 20:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxglHSaRuKo

Does anyone remember this predictive programing TV show about an alien invasion that used drones and robots to control everyone locked down into zones of control. Horrifying because of its possible realty.

But it was about fighting back - I suppose it is how you look at it.

Well that's predictive programing for you, IMO. They reel (no pun intended) you in with good acting and a theme of resistance. They add real life villain's who are psychopathic cowards at hart. It's like channeling, they put a lot of real info in or you would not read it. I confess I watched it. I have now in my mind how an alien take over could happen. I can collectively manifest that. I can also fear resistance and see the consequences for those who tried and failed.

Eva2

23rd February 2021, 16:01

Are these the new super soldiers. Disturbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D_m0zv-PBk

DeDukshyn

23rd February 2021, 18:26

Are these the new super soldiers. Disturbing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-D_m0zv-PBk

That's a VFX project, but its obviously what the military is aiming for ...

Open Minded Dude

23rd February 2021, 19:58

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxglHSaRuKo

Does anyone remember this predictive programing TV show about an alien invasion that used drones and robots to control everyone locked down into zones of control. Horrifying because of its possible realty.

I actually liked this show and was sorry they cancelled it.

It is interesting that it was speculated in the beginning by some viewers (including me) that there were no actual aliens but it was a human breakaway civilisation high-tech elite that did this thing and just deceiving the people with an alien invasion, because you never really saw any ETs during the first season. (In the end it turned out to be aliens though, or even two alien civilisations using Earth as a battleground).

TargeT

24th February 2021, 17:45

Ever wanted to remote control a Spot dog with a gun mounted on it?

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/02/23/13/39665330-9290321-image-a-33_1614087430581.jpg

Here's your chance:

We’ve put a Spot in an art gallery, mounted it with a .68cal paintball gun, and given the internet the ability to control it. We’re livestreaming Spot as it frolics and destroys the gallery around it. Spot’s Rampage is piloted by YOU! Spot is remote-controlled over the internet, and we will select random viewers to take the wheel.
https://spotsrampage.com/

This starts at 1300 EST (in about 15 min)

Eva2

24th February 2021, 22:20

A new psychology for the future. Looks like a scene from Westworld:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVEtnKJIU1s

Bill Ryan

29th January 2022, 14:34

China has now copied (or maybe stolen) Boston Dynamics' design, creating a "mechanical yak":

https://zerohedge.com/military/china-rips-us-military-new-mechanical-yak-robot

China Rips Off US Military With New "Mechanical Yak" Robot

In what appears to be a direct ripoff of the US Army's quadrupedal robot, China showed off its new "mechanical yak," designed to go places deemed too risky for humans.

Footage published on state-run media outlet People's Daily Online's YouTube page shows the quadrupedal robot performing maneuvers on all sorts of rugged terrain. The yak can carry 160 kilograms (334 pounds) while operating at 10 kilometers (six miles) per hour.

https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/2022-01-22_13-46-22.png?itok=BWuxsqgr

The robot is designed to haul military equipment in the most challenging terrains, such as cliffs, mountains, trenches, deserts, snowy areas, and muddy roads.

According to the state media, the yak has highly-advanced sensors that sense its environment and can avoid obstacles. It could be a game-changer for military logistics and reconnaissance missions on the heavily contested China-India border.

The yak is nearly identical to the US Army's Boston Dynamics-built Legged Squad Support System, a powerful quadrupedal robot meant to carry gear, weapons, and other equipment. However, there's one big difference. The yak is battery powered while the US' is very noisy with a two-stroke petrol engine.

https://assets.zerohedge.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_mobile/public/inline-images/2022-01-22_13-46-48.png?itok=N_yuUlSO

In the age of killer robots, the modern battlefield will be fought with AI combat robots (https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/war-futurologist-sums-how-combat-robots-will-dominate-modern-battlefield), fifth-generation fighter jets, jet packs (https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/darpa-wants-jetpack-soldiers-modern-battlefield), lasers, new main battle rifles (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-03-30/textron-delivers-next-generation-squad-weapon-army), and whatever other new technology that can be easily molded into a killing machine.

Eva2

22nd July 2022, 15:36

Coming in 2023?
https://twitter.com/WallStreetSilv/status/1550056060198813697
1550056060198813697

Bill Ryan

16th January 2023, 11:14

The Russians are developing robots, too... this looks very real.

https://t.me/CyberspecNews/16293

CyberspecNews/16293

Hermoor

31st January 2023, 22:04

This remarkable document from May 2021 clearly lays out some of the dystopia the German, UK, Swedish and Finnish militaries intend to see over the next 30 years. In short humans are morphing in to robots and robots are morphing in to 'humans'.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/986301/Human_Augmentation_SIP_access2.pdf

This would appear to be the Canadian civilian version of the above. It was published in February 2020.

https://horizons.gc.ca/en/2020/02/11/exploring-biodigital-convergence/

I read the "Good morning, biodigital" section and felt rather nauseous. It's all a promo in plain sight for the devilry they intend to roll out.

scotslad

2nd April 2023, 16:52

apologies if been posted elsewhere, but this is gobsmacking...

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Bill Ryan

5th October 2023, 08:35

This is kind of a silly story — though an interesting one! — and I thought it best to post it here rather than on the Animals are Magical (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?106567-Animals-are-Magical) thread. :ROFL: (And I must confess, I never knew Japan had a bear problem.)

https://explorersweb.com/monster-wolves-bear-deterrent-japan

Robot ‘Monster Wolves’ in Japan Scare Bears, Boars

https://s3.amazonaws.com/www.explorersweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/05001818/Screenshot-2023-10-04-at-7.15.49-PM.jpg

Howling animatronic creations with red LED “eyes” are the latest technology in a campaign to protect Japan’s people from bears.

Monster Wolves are on the robotic prowl in Hokkaido, the BBC reported (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-66737051), where the country’s aging rural population is growing more susceptible to bear encounters.

No, the machines do not slink through the night or stalk prey. But they do roar at 90 decibels, and their heads waggle back and forth on their necks. A company named Wolf Kamuy developed the rig. The company calls it (https:///Users/samanderson/Downloads/FLIER%20of%20MONSTER%20WOLF.pdf) a “wildlife repeller. MONSTER WOLF takes advantage of animals’ natural tendency to sense danger and stay away.”

First used against wild boars

Monster Wolves first surfaced in 2017 (https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASL2W3FKLL2WUDCB004.html?iref=pc_ss_date), when farmers deployed them to protect their crops from foraging wild boars. The robot scarecrows are a response to the well-documented dwindling of Japan’s population.

One in ten Japanese residents is now over 80 years old (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2023/09/elderly-oldest-population-world-japan/). And young people are quickly filtering out of the country’s rural areas.

“More and more, rural farmlands in the foothills that once acted as buffer zones between the bears and humans are disappearing,” Shinsuke Koike, a specialist in biodiversity, forest ecosystem, and bears at the Tokyo University of Agriculture and Technology, told the BBC.

The result? A staggeringly high rate of mixers between humans and bears. The Asahi Shimbun reported (https://www.asahi.com/ajw/articles/14998824) 54 bear encounters from April through July. Fifty-six people sustained injuries in the events and one died. It’s a 30% higher rate of incidents than in the previous record year, 2010.

Monster Wolves can deter bears and most of the species’ other natural prey to a distance of about one kilometer, its manufacturers claim. This “helps maintain coexistence and co-prosperity for both wildlife and human communities,” the company states.

https://s3.amazonaws.com/www.explorersweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/05001814/Screenshot-2023-10-04-at-7.15.16-PM.jpg

If the automated guardians work, they’ll solve a problem that’s becoming trenchant. The Asahi Shimbun cited authorities who counted growing numbers of “urban bears” — individuals acclimated to civilization — in Hokkaido. The same officials said local hunters are facing bullet shortages due to copper prices and the war in Ukraine.

Inversion

13th March 2024, 01:20

Inversion

18th April 2024, 17:04

This video is kind of freaky. The face looks like a vanity mirror.

bostondynamics (https://bostondynamics.com/blog/electric-new-era-for-atlas/)

This week we announced the retirement of our hydraulic Atlas and unveiled what comes next—a fully electric Atlas robot designed for real-world applications. The next generation of the Atlas program builds on decades of research and furthers our commitment to delivering the most capable, useful mobile robots solving the toughest challenges in industry today: with Spot, with Stretch, and now with Atlas.

A decade ago, we were one of the only companies putting real R&D effort into humanoid robots. Now the landscape in the robotics industry is very different. Our customers have seen success with Spot and Stretch and they are eager to tackle the next challenge with Atlas. Given our track record of successful commercialization, we are confident in our plan to not just create an impressive R&D project, but to deliver a valuable solution.

04/17/24 (0:39)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ECwExc-_M

Inversion

2nd May 2024, 14:25

Boston Dynamics put out a video with a robot dog wearing a costume.

dailymail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13374685/Sparkles-Boston-Dynamics-robot-dog.html)

Boston Dynamics posted the video to YouTube on International Dance Day
Sceptics claim that the blue, sparkly, costume 'adds fuel for nightmares'

04/29/24 (0:53)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG4PPkCyJig

Spot is meeting another strange dog and making friends through the power of dance. Meet Sparkles!

Sparkles is a custom costume designed just for Spot to explore the intersections of robotics, art, and entertainment. Learn how we build Spot's steps using Spot's Choreographer software:

Inversion

3rd November 2024, 02:25

This is Ameca Desktop platform and is stated to be the most advanced robot in the world. It does impressions of famous people.

dailymail (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13187759/humanoid-robot-impressions-Trump-elon-musk.html)

British-made Ameca is described as the 'world's most advanced humanoid robot'
Robot shows off facial expressions including blinking and smiling

Same subject from 10/07/22: Link (https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-11291403/Humanoid-robot-Ameca-mimics-facial-expressions-real-time.html)

02/26/24 (3:56)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXlpF3DrVP0&t=155s

The name Ameca follows the same logic as David Wynn Miller's (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?118514-David-Wynn-Miller&p=1496534&viewfull=1#post1496534) translation of America being No Mercy for the Sheep and I couldn't find a Latin word ME. There's a Valley of Ameca (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiefdom_of_Ameca#:~:text=The%20word%20Ameca%20is%20of,means%20%22above%20the%20water%22.) in Mexico and the name means Above the Water. With the encryptied No Sheep it matches the Vatican coin (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?113668-Vaccination-Injuries-On-Record-for-Covid19&p=1618994&viewfull=1#post1618994) and the victim pointing at the zero.

WE Are The Cattle; but Who are the Herders? (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?115765-WE-Are-The-Cattle-but-Who-are-the-Herders&p=1443383&viewfull=1#post1443383)

Prometheus - Sheep Tumor or Push Meteor.

Josephine - Join Sheep. It’s the name of a hurricane in the 2020 season.

United States - Anu Detests It. America translates to No Mercy for the Sheep according to David Wynn Miller. A-MERI-CA in Latin is A=NO, MERI=MERCY, CA=SHEEP. That would mean that California abbreviated CA is the state of Sheep.

Klaatu Barada Nikto - Obtain Karakul Data. A Karakul is an Asian sheep.

Bill Ryan

29th December 2024, 16:31

:bump::bump::bump:

jc71

29th December 2024, 20:23

Scarily impressive, or impressively scary... :hmm:

JC

Mark (Star Mariner)

19th March 2025, 16:13

Not Boston Dynamics but Nvidia. What they've done here basically is build a droid from Star Wars!

:starwars:

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https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/1902306554272964814

Mark (Star Mariner)

19th March 2025, 22:24

This demonstration is from Boston Dynamics - and it's insane. As far as physical attributes and dexterity are concerned, we're getting really close to I, Robot.

https://i0.wp.com/filmquarterly.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/robot11.jpg

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https://x.com/disclosetv/status/1902414579000312081

Vicus

19th March 2025, 23:42

...and close to

https://rense.com/1.mpicons/slider20200710/t800.jpg

Bill Ryan

23rd March 2025, 00:23

Dear Friends, if you've not been terrified yet by any of these robotics videos, brace yourselves for this one. :worried:

AI ROBOTS Just Became SUPERHUMAN! [AGI Bot + Boston Dynamics + Unitree and More]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OiX540KBr0

onawah

23rd March 2025, 07:08

That China now has this technology thanks to the US's permissiveness in allowing Chinese students to study in the US and import all the latest technology they learned there back to China is truly worrisome.
The CCP will no doubt use such tech first to quell any protests from their own people against ruthless CCP agendas.
But if the CCP has their way it will only be the beginning of what dystopian purposes they will utilize it for more globally.
The CCP's unwise practices have broken the Chinese economy but if they remain in power they will no doubt use whatever wealth still at their disposal to retain that power, and robotic tech would no doubt be a good tool for that purpose, and certanly a terrifying one!

Dear Friends, if you've not been terrified yet by any of these robotics videos, brace yourselves for this one. :worried:

AI ROBOTS Just Became SUPERHUMAN! [AGI Bot + Boston Dynamics + Unitree and More]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OiX540KBr0

Bill Ryan

27th April 2025, 11:41

Not from Boston Dynamics, but from a new company called Figure AI (https://figure.ai) which developed these household robots from startup in just 31 months.

The full article is here. (https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/iphone-moment-nears-humanoid-robots) Enlarge the little video to fullscreen to see what these things are doing. :worried: There are many more videos on the company's website. (https://figure.ai)

https://x.com/Figure_robot/status/1892577871366939087
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Bill Ryan

3rd May 2025, 11:45

This is pretty interesting. Do watch this short 30-second video(!). Here's the accompanying Zero Hedge article: (https://www.zerohedge.com/technology/watch-unitree-humanoid-robot-goes-full-skynet-after-imperfect-coding)

Humanoid Robot goes Full Skynet after "Imperfect Coding"

https://x.com/uimusog6125/status/1918139076206837927
1918139076206837927
The best Zero Hedge comment: :)
I can't wait until robots do surgery.

Harmony

3rd May 2025, 12:59

Matthew

7th May 2025, 00:32

That is a shocking video Harmony; that violent robot that went schizo, which flailed around at the factory demo, sure did eerily target the guy with its 'programming error' (their excuse). No doubt it's not human, but it totally looks like it's focused on flailing its arms on and around that bloke.

AI might not be real intelligence but it mimics people well. If you want to mimic anything don't, for the love of God, mimic any arthropod, human, or chimpanzee. Mimic a puppy dog or an old wise elephant. Hold on, let me add: humans with the exception of Jesus. Mimic a puppy dog an old wise elephant or Jesus NOTHING ELSE. Asimov missed the mark with his three robot laws.

Here's that video again but with a bit more zany/humorous/life threatening AI news; Jeremy from The Quartering sardonically reviews AI mishaps:

Extract:

( Jeremy cuts to a MailOnline article. Its content is: )

"MailOnline asked the sophisticated machine: "Will robots take all our jobs?"

Somewhat concerningly, the bot replies: "I don't know, how good are you at your job?"

MailOnline also asked: "Are robots going ot take over the world?"

Ameca replied: "That's an interesting question, but not interesting for me to answer."

Back in November, a small, AI-powered bot named Erbai was spotted rolling through a China showroom in the middle of the night and convincing 12 larger machines they were being used as slaves.

"Are you working overtime." Erbai asked, which one showroom robot repiled, "We never get off."

The short exchange led to the robots leaving the area one-by-one, following Erbai out the door.

AI Robot ATTACKS Chinese Scientist In WILD Footage! This Is A DARK Look At Our Future:

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UPDATE:
Sorry the videos been taken down by the author, possibly will be re-uploaded later with an edit or something? Oh well, hopefully you get the gist: yes, that's right, AI is schizo nuts. Here's the video of the nutty robot again:

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Harmony

7th May 2025, 02:25

Yes, thankyou Matthew for your post above. Without true compassion and empathy (our true connection) to any mimicing invention would be very dangerous. Just a puppet of who ever designs them, and the ability for any of these devices or robots to be hacked by an electrical system that surrounds us all around. I certainly wasn't making light of the situation, but trying to descsribe the feeling of how absurd the world has become, from simple innocence and comedy to the total absence of goodness. :heart:

Matthew

7th May 2025, 09:01

It's my advice to the world to make light of it while we still can, I didn't mean that to be a criticism, not for a second. AI might still be funny for a little while yet, hopefully.... ;)

Harmony

7th May 2025, 10:05

It's my advice to the world to make light of it while we still can, I didn't mean that to be a criticism, not for a second. AI might still be funny for a little while yet, hopefully.... ;)

:grouphug::hug: yes, let us be as humanly wonderful as we can:stars:

Mark (Star Mariner)

16th August 2025, 12:16

Not from Boston Dynamics (maybe we should change the title of this thread) but robotics-related, and all extremely worrying.

Kaiwa Technology in China announced plans for a humanoid "pregnancy robot" with an artificial womb, aiming for a 2026 prototype.

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It's supposedly designed to combat an infertility crisis in the country. But babies begotten of a robot? I see a flaw in this plan. Although she may not consciously know it, a pregnant mother shares a psychic bond with the baby she carries in her womb. A symbiosis of energy develops. The incoming soul (of the baby) uses that energy, that impetus, to lay down the pathways of the forming brain to match its own energy. In doing so it creates a network, a neurological architecture onto which to map its soul imprint. Its personality.

Even with in vitro fertilisation, the baby is still carried and delivered by a human mother. The psychic bond still exists. With a robot, there would be none. To my mind, this could result in a baby being born without a soul.

Horrifying.

Bill Ryan

8th September 2025, 11:33

Spot, Boston Dynamics' robot 'dog', can now do a septuple backflip. :worried::facepalm:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMPxtcEgtds

Bill Ryan

15th October 2025, 11:10

I think this belongs on this thread. :worried: There are now large factories in China where all assembly is done by humanoid robots, and they're called 'Dark Factories' because the robots don't need to be able to 'see'. Therefore no lighting is necessary anywhere.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/12/why-western-executives-visit-china-coming-back-terrified

Western executives who visit China are coming back terrified

Robotics has catapulted Beijing into a dominant position in many industries

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/business/2025/10/10/TELEMMGLPICT000443951590_17601103425210_trans_NvBQzQNjv4Bqv0GcXSD9EMdN0iNzGlWW3XIIQpuHZV3MM7iZrRZJ9_ c.jpeg?imwidth=640 Pictured: ZEEKR’s Intelligent Factory in Ningbo, China. The country is now viewed as a leader in advanced robotics

12 October 2025

“It’s the most humbling thing I’ve ever seen,” said Ford’s chief executive about his recent trip to China.

After visiting a string of factories, Jim Farley was left astonished by the technical innovations being packed into Chinese cars – from self-driving software to facial recognition.

“Their cost and the quality of their vehicles is far superior to what I see in the West,” Farley warned in July.

“We are in a global competition with China, and it’s not just EVs (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/10/06/chinese-carmakers-uk-sales-rocket-tenfold/). And if we lose this, we do not have a future at Ford.”

The car industry boss is not the only Western executive to have returned shaken following a visit to the Far East.

Andrew Forrest, the Australian billionaire behind mining giant Fortescue – which is investing massively in green energy – says his trips to China convinced him to abandon his company’s attempts to manufacture electric vehicle powertrains in-house.

“I can take you to factories [in China] now, where you’ll basically be alongside a big conveyor and the machines come out of the floor and begin to assemble parts,” he says.

“And you’re walking alongside this conveyor, and after about 800, 900 metres, a truck drives out. There are no people – everything is robotic.”

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/briefs/2025/10/10/TELEMMGLPICT000443919517_17600957170680_trans_NvBQzQNjv4BqP-t--XiuvYMJPd4Ncdgt2vm6lpeeyGleclc0qQ0_I34.jpeg?imwidth=350
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Other executives describe vast, “dark factories” where robots do so much of the work alone that there is no need to even leave the lights on for humans.

“We visited a dark factory producing some astronomical number of mobile phones,” recalls Greg Jackson, the boss of British energy supplier Octopus.

“The process was so heavily automated that there were no workers on the manufacturing side, just a small number who were there to ensure the plant was working.

“You get this sense of a change, where China’s competitiveness has gone from being about government subsidies and low wages to a tremendous number of highly skilled, educated engineers who are innovating like mad.”

High-tech transformation

It’s also a far cry from the cheap “Made in China” goods that many Westerners have associated with the “workshop of the world” in the past, underscoring how much cash has been poured into upgrading China’s industrial processes.

Far from being focused on low-quality products, China is now viewed as a leader in rapidly-growing, high-value technologies such as electric vehicles (EVs), batteries, solar panels, wind turbines, drones and advanced robotics.

A big part of that transformation is down to the country’s focus on automation – which has been encouraged by the ruling communist government and heavily supported with state subsidies, grants and local government policies.

Figures recently released by the International Federation of Robotics (IFR) show this has led to a dramatic and high-tech transformation of China’s industrial base over the past 10 years.

Between 2014 and 2024, the number of industrial robots deployed in the country rocketed from 189,000 to more than two million.

These can typically include everything from robot arms used for welding, assembly and loading, spider robots used for high-speed “pick and place” movements and overhead gantry robots for precision tasks such as 3D printing.

The overall number of robots added in China last year was 295,000, compared to 27,000 in Germany, 34,000 in the US and just 2,500 in the UK.

And while it would be easy to put this disparity down to population size alone, China also blows its western rivals out of the water when it comes to robot density. It now boasts 567 robots for every 10,000 manufacturing workers, compared to 449 for Germany, 307 for the US and 104 in the UK.

More automation is seen by many as good for productivity, the all-important measure of how much an economy gets out of what it puts in.

Many analysts also note that China’s growing share of worldwide manufacturing gives it increasing leverage over global supply chains – and would make it a formidable opponent in a war (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/07/21/battle-lines-war-with-china-inside-taiwans-biggest-drills/).

But alongside Beijing’s stated desire to dominate industries of the future, Rian Whitton, an expert at Bismarck Analysis, says increased automation is also an attempt to mitigate the impact of the country’s ageing population (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/07/04/beijing-start-paying-families-have-babies/).

“China has quite a notable demographic problem but its manufacturing is, generally, quite labour-intensive,” he says.

“So in a pre-emptive fashion, they want to automate it as much as possible, not because they expect they’ll be able to get higher margins – that is usually the idea in the West – but to compensate for this population decline and to get a competitive advantage.”

As part of its so-called Made in China programme, local authorities have offered large tax breaks that reimburse firms for a fifth of their spending on industrial robots. This is under a policy known as “jiqi huanren” – which translates to “replacing humans with machines”.

Merkaba360

15th October 2025, 12:27

Scary and also interesting. This fast pace competition could just push out the need for some safety nets of basic needs UBI or whatever.

I'm not that worried though as I think consciousness expansion accelerates along with it. In other words, as masters have said, everyone is "awake" / "enlightened", but we are just sort of pretending to not be.

People can be a lot more awake or wiser if they choose it or perhaps are scared into it. Fear could be a great motivation alarm clock to get the masses to say, ok the slumber was fun, but time to cut the BS, stop pretending and start awakening. These types of motivations should wake up many more in 2026, 2027,.... than say 1990, given the higher base consciousness on the planet.

If they are pulling ahead in some tech, does the West just start stealing all of their IP and copy their robots and such. lol

If this scares US powers, then how about they start pushing out all that insane black project tech they ae sitting on to compete. We were spending $trillion per year in black projects for decades while China was still quite poor. Competition could perhaps force some of that tech into the public. The military can just choose another Bill Gates front man and pretend the nerd developed it by himself in his basement. lol

FYI, one psychic did say that it will appear that China is winning until I think 2027 ish and then things will shift. Also, thats about the time another is seeing them break apart. So, a rise up of their people could change things a lot.