What color are you seeing on this dress?

[Maia Gabrial]

The color of this dress on Amazon seems to be driving people crazy because not everyone is seeing the same colors.



The image quickly went viral with some saying the dress is blue and black while others insist it’s white and gold. But how can this be?

Many have theorized the cones and rods in our eyes cause some people to see blue and black while others will see white and gold. But the jury is still out on the official explanation.

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Roman Women’s Lace Detail Bodycon Dress Royal Blue (Amazon)

The dress can be found on Amazon and is listed as “royal blue,” which likely proves the over exposure of the viral image is what’s causing the disagreement.For more of the story: http://fox2now.com/2015/02/26/what-color-is-this-dress-some-see-it-as-white-gold-others-blue-black/


When I adjusted the position of my laptop back, it became black and blue. When I adjusted it forward, it became white and gold. So, I'm seeing both. Too weird!

Any explanations?

[Eikoor21]

I love you. That is all <3

[Nat_Lee]

The color of this dress on Amazon seems to be driving people crazy because not everyone is seeing the same colors.



The image quickly went viral with some saying the dress is blue and black while others insist it’s white and gold. But how can this be?

Many have theorized the cones and rods in our eyes cause some people to see blue and black while others will see white and gold. But the jury is still out on the official explanation.

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Roman Women’s Lace Detail Bodycon Dress Royal Blue (Amazon)

The dress can be found on Amazon and is listed as “royal blue,” which likely proves the over exposure of the viral image is what’s causing the disagreement.For more of the story: http://fox2now.com/2015/02/26/what-color-is-this-dress-some-see-it-as-white-gold-others-blue-black/


When I adjusted the position of my laptop back, it became black and blue. When I adjusted it forward, it became white and gold. So, I'm seeing both. Too weird!

Any explanations?

Hi !

I maybe dont understand what you whant to demonstrate ...
Tell me if I'm wrong ? :)

but it seems to me that it is two identical dress but one is black and bleue(bottom) and the other one is white and gold (top).


Love to you !
Nat

[DeDukshyn]

Huh???

Maybe some people have really poorly calibrated monitors ... its a black and blue dress in both pics ... my monitor is somewhat calibrated for accuracy.

Well, at least that is what I see with my calibrated monitor ;)

[grannyfranny100]

Apple has the best monitors, that is why they are used by so many people in the arts.

[Snowflower]

That's interesting. I also saw one of each.

[seehas]

That has to do with the eyes not with the monitor, ive opened this thread and saw the first dress picture in white gold the second blue black then when i read all posts i scrolled back on top and now both are blue black.

Crazy stuff

[dim]

1st pic: black/blue
2nd pic: black/blue


calibrated monitor

[Snoweagle]

I think we can all agree this is an optical illusion and dependant on our own optical acuity and indeed the transport of technology. Hardly rocket science.

Colour blindness:
http://brainden.com/color-blindness-tests.htm
Visual illusions:
http://sharpbrains.com/blog/2010/10/27/test-your-brain-with-these-top-10-visual-illusions/

As can be seen in the original photo the dress is daylight backlit, with that same sunshine lighting the foreground (behind the camera) of the dress, so the dress is illuminated by a bright yellow pastel (by example) reflecting back onto the dress (the subject).

And this went viral? - face palm

[MorningFox]

I thought it was just a monitor thing, but it isn't. I looked at this image on my phone this morning and saw white and gold. Then I got into the office and saw the image on the big screen looking obviously black and blue.

So I went back on my phone and looked at the same image I'd seen earlier as white and gold, and it now looks black and blue.

Half of our office are seeing it has black/blue and the other still see white/gold

Very strange ;)

[Violet]

So now they best put not only the colour it has in the picture while on sale but also the colour it will be when it arrives in the mail.

[Flash]

As usual, I am abnormal (as if you were all normal other Avalonians here - giggle)

The first pic here is pale blue and gold for me, and the second royal blue and black

So.... what does it make me?

[MorningFox]

As usual, I am abnormal (as if you were all normal other Avalonians here - giggle)

The first pic here is pale blue and gold for me, and the second royal blue and black

So.... what does it make me?

The same as everyone else. Come back later and look at the picture again, it may (or may not) look different!

[crosby]

That has to do with the eyes not with the monitor, ive opened this thread and saw the first dress picture in white gold the second blue black then when i read all posts i scrolled back on top and now both are blue black.

Crazy stuff

seehas that is what happened to me too! very crazy stuff.....
warmest,
crosby

[Ernie Nemeth]

that is strange because it is for sure white and gold, and it is not changing colors

[Snowflower]

I think we can all agree this is an optical illusion and dependant on our own optical acuity and indeed the transport of technology. Hardly rocket science.

Colour blindness:
http://brainden.com/color-blindness-tests.htm
Visual illusions:
http://sharpbrains.com/blog/2010/10/27/test-your-brain-with-these-top-10-visual-illusions/

As can be seen in the original photo the dress is daylight backlit, with that same sunshine lighting the foreground (behind the camera) of the dress, so the dress is illuminated by a bright yellow pastel (by example) reflecting back onto the dress (the subject).

And this went viral? - face palm

Snoweagle, you might want to slow down a little before putting face in Palm. There is clearly something more than the setting going on, as is obvious when reading the rest of the posts herein.

The two dresses remain consistently gold and white in the first, black and blue in the second to my eyes.

[DNA]

My take on the media blitz given this topic. It is a psy op. And the message being given to the masses at this time is DON'T TRUST WHAT YOU SEE. This makes me wonder what is coming down the pipe.

[Carmody]

It's a simple brightness vs contrast issue, combined with rod/cone brightness sensitivity, and the given person's iris dilation, and that combined with the level of glucose that is secreted in the given individual eyeball (which varies throughout the day and with energy levels), the glucose that energizes their rods/cones. Then the rod/cone concentration in the given eye, and the color sensitivity rod/cone distribution/mix/ratio in the given individual eye.

The combination of these things, is different for each individual's eyeballs. No two are exactly alike, but follow the basic genetic material and pattern they were born from/with.

There is nothing unusual here, this is normal stuff, run of the mill stuff.

[Carmody]

As usual, I am abnormal (as if you were all normal other Avalonians here - giggle)

The first pic here is pale blue and gold for me, and the second royal blue and black

So.... what does it make me?

It makes you a female of the human species , all normal.

The females are largely incapable of being color blind, whereas 10% of the males of the species carry a color blindness gene. Women, in general terms, see many more shades of red and some women see into the near ultraviolet.

Long story.

The pale blue instead of white, is a contrast control issue for the CCD of the given cheap camera and it's native calibration. The contrast of the given image capture hit the limits of the camera lensing, CCD and iris/exposure/f-stop/gamma/color channels/bit depth/software/etc. This sum total issue caused a subtle blue hue to appear in the white dress with the gold inter-spaced. For that particular camera in that exact and specific occurrence.

This is all normal camera stuff. This is all normal eyeball stuff.

[MorningFox]

There is nothing unusual here, this is normal stuff, run of the mill stuff.

It's absolutely unusual. We saw two totally different colour combinations on one image, of course that is unusual....

Stop sucking the fun out!

http://i.imgur.com/YK1vFZN.png

[araucaria]

http://next.liberation.fr/mode/2015/02/27/de-quelle-couleur-est-cette-robe-l-humanite-serait-partagee-en-deux_1210777
This site’s in French but if you scroll down to the video you will find a pretty plausible explanation – in English :) - people's colour settings seem to be up and down the scale.

[Earth Angel]

ok there is something very strange here.......I totally ignored this story on Google's trending now story page but when i saw it here decided to check it out....partially because my daughter just bought a white and gold wedding dress yesterday!! (god I hope it doesn't turn blue and black for the wedding!!) .....anyway I saw the white and gold every time, scrolled down saw the blue and black but thought so what, different picture doesn't prove a thing......read all the stories of people going back and seeing it differently so scrolled back and now I CANNOT see the white and gold dress any more!! the first one is a paler blue and black than the second image but it is certainly not white and gold any more!!!

UPDATE

with a little effort I can move my monitor and see white and gold, but its very tricky ....where as originally it was nothing but white and gold and I could not imagine how anyone saw blue and black...seems after 300k votes its almost 50/50 on what colour it is

[Innocent Warrior]

Both dresses are consistently blue and black here.

[RunningDeer]

From a graphic and web design perspective it depends on the computer, how the photo is processed, which computer i.e, Mac or PC and how the monitor is calibrated.

I used the same photo and increased the input levels of RGB (red green blue) by only .36 out of a possible 255. I got this result.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/dress_zpspes8tvnp.jpg

Mac and PC monitors show up as different colors. I use a Mac to create graphics and those same graphics are different when I checked them at work on a PC. Also it depends on how old the monitor is and how each monitor is calibrated.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/calibrate_zpszjdv9gxb.jpg

Photoshop has a menu for different settings to create the end color result for printing out material, i.e. CMYK vs RGB color range or upload on to web. So depends on what settings from the software on the photo, too.


http://i1262.photobucket.com/albums/ii610/WhiteCrowBlackDeer/menu_zpsnq6tkfvq.jpg

[Pam]

It's wierd, when I look at the upper image in whole it is a sort of tan (or maybe a very pale muted blue) with cocoa colored lace. When I scroll down so that I can only see the bottom portion of the top image it becomes a deeper blue with black lace!

[TargeT]

When I adjusted the position of my laptop back, it became black and blue. When I adjusted it forward, it became white and gold. So, I'm seeing both. Too weird!

Any explanations?

your monitors viewing angle (in this case your laptop screen) is being exceeded and you see the other colors. (when you tilt your screen).

as for the rest of the "contraversy", wow; what a waste of time!

[guayabal]

The first pic here is pale blue and gold for me, and the second royal blue and black



me too...

For those of you seeing black/blue on the first picture it would be interesting to see how you score on this color test:
http://www.xrite.com/online-color-test-challenge
I just got 0 (perfect color vision). To get a perfect score on this test you need a good and calibrated monitor (mine is a NEC calibrated using a spectrophotometer xrite i1pro)... and "excellent" color perception.

[MorningFox]

When I adjusted the position of my laptop back, it became black and blue. When I adjusted it forward, it became white and gold. So, I'm seeing both. Too weird!

Any explanations?

your monitors viewing angle (in this case your laptop screen) is being exceeded and you see the other colors. (when you tilt your screen).

as for the rest of the "contraversy", wow; what a waste of time!

That is possibly true in this case, however... Myself and others in my office saw both colour combinations at different times on the same screens.

I'm a graphic designer and we're a media company that works with digital images all day every day, so we know what we're talking about.

It's clearly a brain and perception thing.

[ghostrider]

the first is white trimmed in gold , the second is blue with black trim ... that's how I perceive it ...

[Shezbeth]

This thread does a marvelous job of illustrating the difference between objective analysis and subjective perception, if anyone is interested.

It does not do to maintain a subjective interpretation that is both unsupportable and in conflict by/with the evidence.

To me the colors in question are obvious as is the bias that is being entertained by many of the posters; one could equally point that last bit my way, but my interpretation agrees with the objective qualities,....

[Hervé]

[...]

When I adjusted the position of my laptop back, it became black and blue. When I adjusted it forward, it became white and gold. So, I'm seeing both. Too weird!

Any explanations?

... it's got to do with polarization (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarization_%28waves%29) of "white" light (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light) due to individual LCDs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid-crystal_display) of an LCD screen:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/41/Rising_circular.gif
A circularly polarized wave as a sum of two linearly polarized components 90° out of phase


"Liquid crystals" polarize light:


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/LCD_layers.svg/800px-LCD_layers.svg.png


Reflective twisted nematic liquid crystal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquid_crystal) display.


Polarizing filter (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polarizer) film with a vertical axis to polarize light as it enters.
Glass substrate with ITO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indium_tin_oxide) electrodes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrode). The shapes of these electrodes will determine the shapes that will appear when the LCD is turned ON. Vertical ridges etched on the surface are smooth.
Twisted nematic liquid crystal.
Glass substrate with common electrode film (ITO) with horizontal ridges to line up with the horizontal filter.
Polarizing filter film with a horizontal axis to block/pass light.
Reflective surface to send light back to viewer. (In a backlit LCD, this layer is replaced with a light source.)



Accordingly, the "light"/"color"/radiation wavelength seen as coming out of the screen is dependent on the angle to which the screen is being looked at... no more mysterious than that :)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Light_dispersion_conceptual_waves350px.gif

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[Silo]

It is kind of amazing the kind of traction something like this gets.

What seems to be compelling about this is we all like to think we see the same world when we look out of our skulls and this SEEMS to contradict that assumption.

Maybe this particular meme is a response to how upside down the world is...as if to say, "See, this is why we can't get along. We can't even agree on what color this is...never mind coming to a consensus on complex political matters"

[Mini Flash]

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There you go guys! We found the true colors!

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[Mercedes]

The first pic here is pale blue and gold for me, and the second royal blue and black



me too...

For those of you seeing black/blue on the first picture it would be interesting to see how you score on this color test:
http://www.xrite.com/online-color-test-challenge
I just got 0 (perfect color vision). To get a perfect score on this test you need a good and calibrated monitor (mine is a NEC calibrated using a spectrophotometer xrite i1pro)... and "excellent" color perception.

Thank you for the link I got a 0 score. The thing is I see a blue dress and both my daughters see a white one. (?)

[guayabal]

The first pic here is pale blue and gold for me, and the second royal blue and black



me too...

For those of you seeing black/blue on the first picture it would be interesting to see how you score on this color test:
http://www.xrite.com/online-color-test-challenge
I just got 0 (perfect color vision). To get a perfect score on this test you need a good and calibrated monitor (mine is a NEC calibrated using a spectrophotometer xrite i1pro)... and "excellent" color perception.

Thank you for the link I got a 0 score. The thing is I see a blue dress and both my daughters see a white one. (?)

wow... and the other color of the first pic... do you see gold or black? Thank you.

[Twig]

My take on the me media blitz given this topic. It is a psy op. And the message being given to the masses at this time is DON'T TRUST WHAT YOU SEE. This makes me wonder what is coming down the pipe.
So agree with this...

Looking at the pics of this dress that you guys posted(just for fun) I see an ugly white and brown dress OR an ugly white and gold dress....The same dress in the Black and Blue looks way nicer.

Can't believe a stupid dress can get this much media.

[Wookie]

Working as intended.

Peaceful Journeys Wookie

[OMG]

Look at this dress. What color(s) do you see?

Here's the myth...

This is a social experiment created by certain Advanced Powers/Beings with the intent of identifying the various types of people on our planet.

Based on the colors you see you fall into one of three categories...

a) You will be saved from any major end-time type tribulation on earth
b) You will NOT be saved
c) You are still an unknown and could go either way

Let the party begin! :)

http://i128.photobucket.com/albums/p170/nowiam/dress%20of%20destiny.jpg

Here's a conventional social link about the dress http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/02/27/the-inside-story-of-the-white-dress-blue-dress-drama-that-divided-a-nation/

[OMG]

BTW: Although different computers and phones may affect the appearance of colors there is an easy way to see that that is NOT the issue. Just get various people to look at the dress from the same phone or computer. People will still see different colors.

[Wind]

I initially saw a white dress with golden stripes, but it took a while before the color turned. Most of the time it remains white & gold! All the devices that I use are Macs. Can you really trust your eyes? They can only see so much (that's coming from a person who sees a lot.) ;)

OMG, quite the theory you got there. So which ones will be the lottery winners? :rolleyes:

[OMG]

Not my theory...

I imagine if true it would be something to do with a person vibration and character, whether others can see it or not.

Generally speaking (with subtle variations)

Blue/Black = Doomed
White/Gold = Saved
Blue/Brown or Blue/Gold or White/Brown, etc = on the fence

White/Browns are closer to being saved than White/Blacks, or Blue/Browns but the lighter the colors or golder the gold the better in general...

For example, a light color blue lilac type is better than a darker blue. Or a lighter brown or golden brown is better than a darker brown.

Cheers!

[DeDukshyn]

I initially saw a white dress with golden stripes, but it took a while before the color turned. Most of the time it remains white & gold! All the devices that I use are Macs. Can you really trust your eyes? They can only see so much (that's coming from a person who sees a lot.) ;)

OMG, quite the theory you got there. So which ones will be the lottery winners? :rolleyes:

"The good Lord hath testeth mankind with "the dress" and deemed the "blue-blackers" to be unfit for the glory of Heaven." Nonsensians II: Ch3 verse 4

[OMG]

[/QUOTE]

"The good Lord hath testeth mankind with "the dress" and deemed the "blue-blackers" to be unfit for the glory of Heaven." Nonsensians II: Ch3 verse 4[/QUOTE]

That's Hilarious!

[OMG]

Regardless of any kooky theories...there are some important considerations from all of this.

1. FACT: people all over who are not color blind are seeing distinctly different colors of this dress, even from the same computer or phone screens.

2. This means that some people are NOT seeing reality as it truly is. And this in turn can make you wonder if something similar is happening with their rational mind, emotions, etc.

[DeDukshyn]

Regardless of any kooky theories...there are some important considerations from all of this.

1. FACT: people all over who are not color blind are seeing distinctly different colors of this dress, even from the same computer or phone screens.

2. This means that some people are NOT seeing reality as it truly is. And this in turn can make you wonder if something similar is happening with their rational mind, emotions, etc.

"reality as it truly is" -- who says that what I perceive as red is the same frequency of light that you perceive as red? Who's to say that what I call red isn't your green? What we often come to term "reality" is nothing more than indications to the labels and judgements used to present that reality, but Reality is elusive. There is no person on this planet who sees "Reality as it truly is", because everything is filtered to form a "perception" based on incomplete info - therefore every one's experience is different, and none are the "real" reality - none.

So you just need to get used to this fact - it has always been and always will be this way, as long as humans perceive through their senses and also their judgements - which will be forever (at least as long as we are a physical creature)

Now, that said, we (humans) do have the ability to operate as a single being - a single entity, we just forgot how. When humans learn to operate this way, individual judgements will cease, and with billions of sets of physical sensors, we will be a little closer to perceive "reality as it is" but still only very locally to our location.

Until you are the Creator of a universe, you cannot perceive "reality as it truly is" - not remotely possible for any being less than Universe creating God.

In light of all that, people are taking this dress thing waaaaay to seriously. It's a cheap visual gimmick that indicates that we all perceive things different <BREAKING NEWS!!> :) :)

[Tangri]

Whether you saw the above dress as blue and black, or white and gold, someone has almost certainly told you that you’re wrong. But you’re not, and neither are they – it’s both colours, depending on who and where you are.

Which colour your eyes see is in fact a consequence of the way our eyes have evolved, and tells you important things about how your eyes work out colour in a world lit by sunlight.

The problem is that the brain has to avoid seeing the colour of the light reflecting off an object, and just see the colour of the object itself. If it sees a white shirt bathed in yellow sun, for instance, it needs to subtract the yellowness of the sun so that it can see the whiteness of the shirt – and it normally does.

Update: An eyewitness who saw the dress speaks

The same kind of system is found in cameras, and is called white balance. That allows the camera to do the same thing the brain does – deciding what should be white, within the image, and adjusting the colours accordingly.

But the dress – blue and black, or white and gold – somehow confuses this system, it seems. Some brains look at the dress and attempt to discount the blue bit – something like the ambient light of night time. Others try and get rid of the effect of the gold part, because the brain sees it as the colour of a sunny day, and sees the dress as blue and black.

Maia , I believe you are a smart phone user, eh?

[Rollo]

I was really surprised to see the same dress first time in light color with gold and few days later in blue tones.

This can be our unconscious mind showing us different "perspective" of the same image. And as we all heard about the dress changing color then it is way easier to see it.

If you look at the image of the figure you will notice that after one or more seconds(different time for different person) it flips the sides. It can be any other side. Our unconscious mind is allowing as to see the other side of the figure.
This is something very common. We do that constantly.

You can try it.

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[jackovesk]

The color of this dress on Amazon seems to be driving people crazy because not everyone is seeing the same colors.



The image quickly went viral with some saying the dress is blue and black while others insist it’s white and gold. But how can this be?

Many have theorized the cones and rods in our eyes cause some people to see blue and black while others will see white and gold. But the jury is still out on the official explanation.

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Roman Women’s Lace Detail Bodycon Dress Royal Blue (Amazon)

The dress can be found on Amazon and is listed as “royal blue,” which likely proves the over exposure of the viral image is what’s causing the disagreement.For more of the story: http://fox2now.com/2015/02/26/what-color-is-this-dress-some-see-it-as-white-gold-others-blue-black/


When I adjusted the position of my laptop back, it became black and blue. When I adjusted it forward, it became white and gold. So, I'm seeing both. Too weird!

Any explanations?

Hi Maia Gabrial,

This post really makes me ((ANGRY))...:mad2:

All this :bs: about the colour of an effing dress...:faint:

PS - The MSM says...

GOTCHA...:wizard:

http://media.giphy.com/media/76Zf6ocYmypIA/giphy.gif

PSS - Seems to me there are still plenty of members here that will never be able to shake the ((SHEEPLE)) tag...

A simple MSM exercise in ((FUTILITY)) by continually dumbing down the ((SUCKERS))...!!! :faint:

[DeDukshyn]

The great news is, the makers of the dress are now going to make an actual white gold version thinking that that would actually look pretty darn good. There's a positive side to everything ;)

¤=[Post Update]=¤


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Any explanations?

Hi Maia Gabrial,

This post really makes me ((ANGRY))...:mad2:

All this :bs: about the colour of an effing dress...:faint:

PS - The MSM says...

GOTCHA...:wizard:

http://media.giphy.com/media/76Zf6ocYmypIA/giphy.gif



Not sure I would go as far as ridiculing people who became interested in this, but I will say that animated owl gif is freaking awesome!

[jackovesk]

The great news is, the makers of the dress are now going to make an actual white gold version thinking that that would actually look pretty darn good. There's a positive side to everything ;)

¤=[Post Update]=¤


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Any explanations?

Hi Maia Gabrial,

This post really makes me ((ANGRY))...:mad2:

All this :bs: about the colour of an effing dress...:faint:

PS - The MSM says...

GOTCHA...:wizard:

http://media.giphy.com/media/76Zf6ocYmypIA/giphy.gif



Not sure I would go as far as ridiculing people who became interested in this, but I will say that animated owl gif is freaking awesome!


Not sure I would go as far as ridiculing people who became interested in this

I'm actually a friend and strong supporter of Maia Gabriel, however bringing this :bs: to Avalon after everything we've learnt over the years about the MSM ((CONTROL)) mechanisms designed to ((DUMB-DOWN)) the public is sacrilege to the journey of TRUTH...!!!

PS - I'm only calling it as I see it and trying to ((LIFT)) the level of this forum which has been sadly diminishing lately...:yes4:

It's not just Maia Gabriel I'm singling out, ((I)) too have been guilty of posting some ((LAZY-THREADS I found on Beforeitsnews.com)) of late aswell and I'm not proud of it either...:noidea:

[DeDukshyn]

Yes .. stay away from BIN ... its a good philosophy. ;) And I know you aren't singling out Maia, I was referring to the generalization.

[Maia Gabrial]

My take on the me media blitz given this topic. It is a psy op. And the message being given to the masses at this time is DON'T TRUST WHAT YOU SEE. This makes me wonder what is coming down the pipe.

That's what I thought, too, DNA. You know like saying the sky is really red when it's not, but they want to see how long it would take to convince people of something it's not.
Maybe the dress has unusual fabric. I did notice that when I tilted my laptop back, the dress turned blue and black. Up until then, it was white and gold. It could very well be a monitor thing.

[jackovesk]

My take on the me media blitz given this topic. It is a psy op. And the message being given to the masses at this time is DON'T TRUST WHAT YOU SEE. This makes me wonder what is coming down the pipe.

That's what I thought, too, DNA. You know like saying the sky is really red when it's not, but they want to see how long it would take to convince people of something it's not.
Maybe the dress has unusual fabric. I did notice that when I tilted my laptop back, the dress turned blue and black. Up until then, it was white and gold. It could very well be a monitor thing.

YES, it was certainly a ((PSYOP))...:yes4:

https://i.vimeocdn.com/portrait/1342209_300x300.jpg

The PTW/MSM are getting more & more ((DESPERATE)) just to remain relevant...:wizard:

Trouble for them is, there on a ((Losing Battle)) and they ((Know-It))...:)

PS - Maia Gabriel - Why did you post a thread on it though...:confused:

[Maia Gabrial]

Can't believe a stupid dress can get this much media.

When I saw this dress, I thought it would be a fun change of pace for us on Avalon. We're all too serious sometimes!

[guayabal]

Hi Maia Gabrial,

This post really makes me ((ANGRY))...:mad2:

All this :bs: about the colour of an effing dress...:faint:

PS - The MSM says...

GOTCHA...

I thought the same the first time I entered this thread... but now I thank Maia Gabriel.

I didn't know that our brain could resolve colors in a composition (picture) in different ways (picking one of the ways) unconsciously. [Yesterday I saw the picture white(pale-blue)/gold and today I saw the picture and it was blue/black(yellowish)]. The phenomena seems to be analogous to what happens with forms and the way the brain resolves them (like the cube mentioned above) or this image:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=29141&d=1425180001
[ picture taken from RAW-Quantum Psychology ]

The brain picks one of the meanings... (old or young lady) it can not see both simultaneously. Something similar seems to be happening with the picture of the dress, it's a blue dress illuminated with a very warm (background/foreground ~2700K) light and seems to be overexposed. Somehow the visual system (eye-brain) realizes that it is overexposed and compensates showing a more blue color (probably when the observer is not tired---people seeing blue/black), sometimes it doesn't and shows a more whitish color (giving more weight to the overexposure aspect---people seeing white/gold). Very interesting indeed.

[Nat_Lee]

As usual, I am abnormal (as if you were all normal other Avalonians here - giggle)

The first pic here is pale blue and gold for me, and the second royal blue and black

So.... what does it make me?

It makes you a female of the human species , all normal.

The females are largely incapable of being color blind, whereas 10% of the males of the species carry a color blindness gene. Women, in general terms, see many more shades of red and some women see into the near ultraviolet.

Long story.

The pale blue instead of white, is a contrast control issue for the CCD of the given cheap camera and it's native calibration. The contrast of the given image capture hit the limits of the camera lensing, CCD and iris/exposure/f-stop/gamma/color channels/bit depth/software/etc. This sum total issue caused a subtle blue hue to appear in the white dress with the gold inter-spaced. For that particular camera in that exact and specific occurrence.

This is all normal camera stuff. This is all normal eyeball stuff.

This is what I was thinking but could not explain as well as you Camody so I did not answer to Flash ....
Thank you Camody for this explanation ! :)

[guayabal]

For those of you seeing the original picture white/gold, let me show you how the "other" people see it, more or less:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=29143&d=1425188537

This is the same picture but: changing the white balance from 6500K (automatic/fixed value imposed by "cheap" camera) to 5200K (typical shop lightning temperature---I was wrong in my previous post as I thought it was 2700K---I didn't take into account that the picture was at a 6500K WB setting!), changing the exposure -1EV... The marvelous thing is that for those seeing the original picture blue/black this process happens in their visual system (eye-brain) automatically (and unconsciously), they are able to "correct" and view the blue/black dress more like the real thing (it is a picture of a blue/black dress in reality) and on the other hand they are being "less objective" because their eye-brain is showing them colors after correcting the overexposure/WB. :-)

[DNA]

My take on the media blitz given this topic. It is a psy op. And the message being given to the masses at this time is DON'T TRUST WHAT YOU SEE. This makes me wonder what is coming down the pipe.

That's what I thought, too, DNA. You know like saying the sky is really red when it's not, but they want to see how long it would take to convince people of something it's not.
Maybe the dress has unusual fabric. I did notice that when I tilted my laptop back, the dress turned blue and black. Up until then, it was white and gold. It could very well be a monitor thing.

In the project camelot interview with Mr. X, Mr. X stated from what he has seen, he is of the opinion that the Annunaki are due to return. That the PTB expect this.
Could it be a massive ufo show is about to take place and we are being conditioned to not trust our eyes?

[Hervé]

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The above picture gives a good example of what my post # 31 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80259-What-color-are-you-seeing-on-this-dress&p=937685&viewfull=1#post937685) explains: get your face closer to your laptop screen or LCD PC screen and scroll the picture from top to bottom of your screen and notice the color change... or tilt your screen as Maia did, same result :)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Light_dispersion_conceptual_waves350px.gif

[Oouthere]

OMG, exactly!

Out of four of us in the household, three saw the black/blue and the 4th saw the gold/white while viewing it simultaneously on the same monitor. This was confirmed from various angles/positions while looking at the monitor.

[Hervé]

... the 4th saw the gold/white while viewing it simultaneously on the same monitor. This was confirmed from various angles/positions while looking at the monitor.

... is the 4th person taller than the other ones? That would be equivalent to changing the angle of viewing, i.e. from "above" or from "below" the perpendicular to the screen.

[Oouthere]

We changed height, angles, everything and no ones color perspective changed. The one that saw the gold/white thought we were playing a joke on them in the beginning.

[gripreaper]

I think the term "dress" is a metaphor for "duress" and the subliminal message that is being fed to the subconscious minds of the masses, is that the Annunaki are coming back real soon and that you can see planet X peeking out now from behind the sun, and that the magnetic disturbance which will occur from the drive-by of this planet will cause earth to pole shift and the elite will want to get off of earth and not go to their secret hiding places in the south, and those who are mercenaries for these elite who drink blood and sacrifice little children will still get to keep their tickets to their underground secret hiding places while we will be "dressed up" with nowhere to go and no one of us sheep will know the true color of what is happening.

You see, you have to read between the lines if you want to figure this crap out! :)

But since this is David Wilcock day at Avalon, I digress.....

[guayabal]

... the 4th saw the gold/white while viewing it simultaneously on the same monitor. This was confirmed from various angles/positions while looking at the monitor.

... is the 4th person taller than the other ones? That would be equivalent to changing the angle of viewing, i.e. from "above" or from "below" the perpendicular to the screen.

hi Hervé, although in some cases the color shift produced by cheap TN monitors (the ones that shift colors when you observe from different angles, mainly vertically) can be a cause for the color shift of "the dress", it can't be the main reason. I have an IPS monitor (it reproduces colors accurately consistently across (practically) all viewing angles, if you have only used TN displays you have to see it to believe it) and I have seen the original "dress picture" in both of its "versions" (white/gold and blue/black), my mind sometimes locks it up on the white/gold version and other times on the blue/black (but lately only on the blue/black... maybe because now it knows it is the "correct" interpretation and it does not want to go back? :-S ).

[Earthlink]

hee hee heee

[Hervé]

MY guess is that it's all NASA's fault because they wanted this whole planet to believe Marsian skies were red and therefore found a way to automatically modify every monitor on Earth to paint Mars' skies in red instead of blue!

There!

:jester:

[DeDukshyn]

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The above picture gives a good example of what my post # 31 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80259-What-color-are-you-seeing-on-this-dress&p=937685&viewfull=1#post937685) explains: get your face closer to your laptop screen or LCD PC screen and scroll the picture from top to bottom of your screen and notice the color change... or tilt your screen as Maia did, same result :)


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/73/Light_dispersion_conceptual_waves350px.gif



It definitely has to do with the auto-white balance from our eyes. Different people have different thresholds for "white". Finding the white balance is complex, especially in a scene with multiple sources of light that each have different white colours - ask any videographer how frustrating it can be to achieve proper white balance sometimes (I have to deal with this a lot in both my profession and video / photog hobby). The tool they use is a white or grey card in front of the lens with all lights contributing, then setting it manually or allow the auto finder to find the balance on the card.

Our eyes don't have a card, and your brain has to adjust this constantly based on all the input from the whole scene, making it probably more likely for small variations between different peoples' eyes - depending on how the scene is interpreted. The brain has to look at the whole scene and determine how to white-balance it. Some peoples brains utilize additional info to help determine this, such as, "is the material colour diffuse or reflected? are the source lights for the scene of different colours?" etc. Which can help build the picture more accurately so the brain has enough to consider for setting that white-balance appropriately. It appeared to me that people with "calibrated monitors" did tend to see it as blue black more than people without. However, I now think that people with calibrated monitors have calibrated them because the do artwork or digital graphics, or photo works, and I think that it is the discerning eye of people with a bit more of an "artistic eye" that utilizes that little bit of the extra information I presented to get to the black blue result (the dress really is black-blue BTW for the doubters - the maker has confirmed this).

I did also catch my eyes in the moment of adjusting the white balance -- for a very brief moment, after having seen the black blue several times, I saw white and gold, but it very quickly switched to black- blue, and I never got the white gold back again. At this point I could tell my eyes were adjusting.

As for the tilting of monitor effect, that is probably going to shift the colours just enough to be able to invoke a eyeball white balance, hence some people seeing it change when tilting their monitor.

So calibration, and viewing do have some of an impact, but more along the lines of what info is being sent to the eyes, and is that enough data in that image for your eyes to be able to find the correct balance.

I have now spent way to much time on this thread, this ship has sailed (what happened in the mean time? ;)) ... but together with Carmody's, Herve's and a few others' fine posts, hopefully that helps explain it. :)

EDIT: I recently read an article saying that some people have a fourth cone in their eye (as opposed to three) and those people see the dress differently than people with only three cone variations in their eyes. This is NOT the whole story, considering that for many people, their eyes have seen it both ways; your eyes cannot simply have these extra cones one moment then not have them the next. So much for "experts" responses again ... ;) There's definitely more going on than just the types of cones in peoples eyes - the varying white balance seems to fit the bill.

[guayabal]

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I recently read an article saying that some people have a fourth cone in their eye (as opposed to three) and those people see the dress differently than people with only three cone variations in their eyes. This is NOT the whole story, considering that for many people, their eyes have seen it both ways; your eyes cannot simply have these extra cones one moment then not have them the next. So much for "experts" responses again ... ;) There's definitely more going on than just the types of cones in peoples eyes - the varying white balance seems to fit the bill.

thanks DeDukshyn... agree... but before you go let me add to your conclusions :-)

The role of overexposure of the picture is not to be neglected in "the dress": the overexposure of the picture makes it harder for the eye-brain to do the auto-white balance and sometimes gives up and presents the white/gold version. But when the eye-brain does the auto-white balance the change of color perception (to blue/black) is too pronounced and from this change we can say that eye-brain did a leap by doing an auto-exposure correction too!

And "finally" a note about the role of judgment of the two kinds of observers:

* When the observer sees white/gold, eye-brain interpretation has lost and what is being seeing is the colors of the picture literally. The observer is more technically objective as he will be able to recognize immediately that the picture does not represent reality at all.

* When the observer sees blue/black, eye-brain interpretation has won and what is being seen is the colors of what the picture is about. The observer won't be as sharp judging the picture technically but he will be able to tell way better what the picture is representing.

[DeDukshyn]

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I recently read an article saying that some people have a fourth cone in their eye (as opposed to three) and those people see the dress differently than people with only three cone variations in their eyes. This is NOT the whole story, considering that for many people, their eyes have seen it both ways; your eyes cannot simply have these extra cones one moment then not have them the next. So much for "experts" responses again ... ;) There's definitely more going on than just the types of cones in peoples eyes - the varying white balance seems to fit the bill.

thanks DeDukshyn... agree... but before you go let me add to your conclusions :-)

The role of overexposure of the picture is not to be neglected in "the dress": the overexposure of the picture makes it harder for the eye-brain to do the auto-white balance and sometimes gives up and presents the white/gold version. But when the eye-brain does the auto-white balance the change of color perception (to blue/black) is too pronounced and from this change we can say that eye-brain did a leap by doing an auto-exposure correction too!

And "finally" a note about the role of judgment of the two kinds of observers:

* When the observer sees white/gold, eye-brain interpretation has lost and what is being seeing is the colors of the picture literally. The observer is more technically objective as he will be able to recognize immediately that the picture does not represent reality at all.

* When the observer sees blue/black, eye-brain interpretation has won and what is being seen is the colors of what the picture is about. The observer won't be as sharp judging the picture technically but he will be able to tell way better what the picture is representing.

Yup totally agree, that all aligns perfectly with the way I see it - referring to what info the brain uses to determine the white balance. It is a rather large combo of factors affecting our eyes ability to white balance properly - even four variable cones as opposed to three may also help give people with four types of cones a slight edge in getting enough of that info for a correct white balance, so even there, there may well be a factor.

Your earlier post was one of the ones I couldn't think of when I mentioned "previous fine posts" ... ;)

[DeDukshyn]

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I recently read an article saying that some people have a fourth cone in their eye (as opposed to three) and those people see the dress differently than people with only three cone variations in their eyes. This is NOT the whole story, considering that for many people, their eyes have seen it both ways; your eyes cannot simply have these extra cones one moment then not have them the next. So much for "experts" responses again ... ;) There's definitely more going on than just the types of cones in peoples eyes - the varying white balance seems to fit the bill.

thanks DeDukshyn... agree... but before you go let me add to your conclusions :-)

The role of overexposure of the picture is not to be neglected in "the dress": the overexposure of the picture makes it harder for the eye-brain to do the auto-white balance and sometimes gives up and presents the white/gold version. But when the eye-brain does the auto-white balance the change of color perception (to blue/black) is too pronounced and from this change we can say that eye-brain did a leap by doing an auto-exposure correction too!

And "finally" a note about the role of judgment of the two kinds of observers:

* When the observer sees white/gold, eye-brain interpretation has lost and what is being seeing is the colors of the picture literally. The observer is more technically objective as he will be able to recognize immediately that the picture does not represent reality at all.

* When the observer sees blue/black, eye-brain interpretation has won and what is being seen is the colors of what the picture is about. The observer won't be as sharp judging the picture technically but he will be able to tell way better what the picture is representing.

Yup totally agree, that all aligns perfectly with the way I see it - referring to what info the brain uses to determine the white balance. It is a rather large combo of factors affecting our eyes ability to white balance properly - even four variable cones as opposed to three may also help give people with four types of cones a slight edge in getting enough of that info for a correct white balance, so even there, there may well be a factor.

Your earlier post was one of the ones I couldn't think of when I mentioned "previous fine posts" ... ;)

Ps ... it's black and blue though ;)

[gripreaper]

New updates in this very important subject: Here they are:

The age and sex of the viewer has an influence on what they see. Here is a chart which illustrates this:

http://blog.23andme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Age-Effect-300x184.jpg

And also the demographic home life you come from, your childhood residence:

http://blog.23andme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/Childhood-Residence-300x193.jpg

So, the evidence is pointing to environmental influences in contravention to genetics, because the genetics of the retina's ability to differentiate when influenced by different color of light, as well as intensity, does not negate the environmental influence of how old you are, what sex you are, and where you lived as a child.

The debate still rages on as most people still don't know what color the dress is. :)

http://cdn4.dogomedia.com/images/8f2080e5-0a98-494c-8806-477433456e16/thedress_elitedaily.jpg