Pennsylvania Man Pays Property Taxes in One Dollar Bills

[ceetee9]

Interesting video of a Pennsylvania man who went to the tax office to pay his school taxes in one dollar bills to protest being forced to support an institution he doesn't believe in or use just so that he doesn't lose his home for non-payment of taxes.
kPRGblJTPRE
And here's a Forbes article (which led me to the above video) of a Texas Man Arrested After Attempt To Pay Taxes With Dollar Bills. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2015/02/03/texas-man-arrested-after-attempt-to-pay-taxes-with-dollar-bills/)

What are your thoughts?

[Flash]

Why would you be arrested when you are in fact paying what the government/schoolboard want of you?

[Nasu]

Crazy story, not sure why he was arrested, perhaps they only accept Yen.... N

[ceetee9]

Why would you be arrested when you are in fact paying what the government/schoolboard want of you?I'd like to say it was because the tax clerk didn't like having to unravel the tightly wrapped bills to count them all, but, unfortunately, it was because his "innovative" way of delivering the money brought work in the tax office to a halt so he was asked to leave. The taxpayer refused and was arrested on a "criminal trespass" charge.

I must admit I'm a bit confused by this. So are we to assume that if you go to the tax office to pay your taxes and they don't like the way you are paying them (even though it is perfectly legal), you are criminally trespassing on public property, or can government employees now determine what constitutes "criminal" activity, or are government tax offices now owned by a private organization, or is it that government employees just don't like being forced to actually work for their paycheck?

[Axman]

And now they get more of his money because they can never take enough. Even when you do what your told.

The Axman

[grannyfranny100]

Seems rather silly. If his kids pulled something similar, he would spank the kids and send them to bed without any dinner. He must have a heck of a house given the amount of tax but he sure doesn't know how to get any changes in current regulations.

[crosby]

yep. typical injustice going on here in my neck of the woods. not surprised at all.
warmest,
crosby

[GK76]

The why and how is simple. I guarantee many won't even try to understand, as it is such a devious scam. It requires the ability to unlearn all the crap they have fed to you over the years.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-h1sLnUplk

[Sith73]

The only way this sort of crap goes away is we the people get sick and tired and change the system. Until then Americans will keep paying tax's and our children will and their children etc.... Most of us are too dam scared to do anything about it. Am I saying we need violence no! but the Tax system would use force if you didn't pay tax's. Sometimes you just have to stand up and say NO! but it takes all of us to say that cause we the people hold the true power in this country. Americans are being poisoned slowly, brain washed, rights being taken away and its our own fault for letting our country go down the toilet.

Did you ever stand up to a bully when you were little?

The apathy just drives me nuts!

[Ahnung-quay]

The clerk who works in the tax office has no authority over the tax laws; she's just doing a job. Taking the one dollar bills in for her to get stuck counting them is unfair to her. He's dumping his protest on the clerk. No one else in the office would probably take any notice if she just went ahead and counted the money/receipted the transaction so who is he really harming? She decided to stick up for herself and not take the money.

Even under common law, she has a right to stick up for herself and her time. She decided not to contract with him. Bravo to her.

I'd say this man needs to devise a plan to help change the law or take his protest to the correct officials in a manner other than this. First do no harm.

[Deega]

Interesting video of a Pennsylvania man who went to the tax office to pay his school taxes in one dollar bills to protest being forced to support an institution he doesn't believe in or use just so that he doesn't lose his home for non-payment of taxes.
kPRGblJTPRE
And here's a Forbes article (which led me to the above video) of a Texas Man Arrested After Attempt To Pay Taxes With Dollar Bills. (http://www.forbes.com/sites/kellyphillipserb/2015/02/03/texas-man-arrested-after-attempt-to-pay-taxes-with-dollar-bills/)

What are your thoughts?

Thanks Ceetee9, interesting!, the Clerk is supposedly working in a system that is deemed working for the people (but we now know it's a farce), I should say, the Clerk is working for the Financial System! In this condition, the System requires expediancy, accuracy, non acceptance of legal money (in smaller numeration), etc.

A lot of members here know that the System should be changed, and this time, for the betterment of the people not for MONEY as it is now.

The best to everyone.

[ceetee9]

The clerk who works in the tax office has no authority over the tax laws; she's just doing a job. Taking the one dollar bills in for her to get stuck counting them is unfair to her. He's dumping his protest on the clerk. No one else in the office would probably take any notice if she just went ahead and counted the money/receipted the transaction so who is he really harming? She decided to stick up for herself and not take the money.

Even under common law, she has a right to stick up for herself and her time. She decided not to contract with him. Bravo to her.

I'd say this man needs to devise a plan to help change the law or take his protest to the correct officials in a manner other than this. First do no harm.I agree that what he did was unfair to the clerk (and any people waiting in line behind him to pay their taxes) and the clerk certainly has the right to refuse to do her job. And there probably is a better way to protest and address his concerns. However, considering the fact that the majority of our "leaders" no longer work for, or respond to, the average citizen, most people in government (and elsewhere) will not stand up to injustice for fear of losing their paycheck, and that the majority of the public are apathetic or ignorant to the problems facing this country and planet, maybe by inconveniencing those who do little to nothing to help eliminate--and thereby contribute to--the injustices (e.g., the clerk, people waiting in line, etc.) might just motivate a sufficient number to stop with their apathy and/or "it's not my job/I didn't create the problem" mentality and start getting involved to help bring about real and positive change for all of us.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting this is the best way, but it is another way to help wake people up.

[sirdipswitch]

Had I been the officer, I would have arrested him for creating a public disturbance and taken him to jail along with his money. When comfortably in his cell, I would then hand him his little sack of money with instructions that when he was done unfolding it, I would take him back to the tax office where he could pay the nice Lady his taxes,
and his car is still parked.:wizard:

[T Smith]

Had I been the officer, I would have arrested him for creating a public disturbance and taken him to jail along with his money. When comfortably in his cell, I would then hand him his little sack of money with instructions that when he was done unfolding it, I would take him back to the tax office where he could pay the nice Lady his taxes,
and his car is still parked.:wizard:

Translation:

Bad slave!

[blake]

The clerk who works in the tax office has no authority over the tax laws; she's just doing a job. Taking the one dollar bills in for her to get stuck counting them is unfair to her. He's dumping his protest on the clerk. No one else in the office would probably take any notice if she just went ahead and counted the money/receipted the transaction so who is he really harming? She decided to stick up for herself and not take the money.

Even under common law, she has a right to stick up for herself and her time. She decided not to contract with him. Bravo to her.

I'd say this man needs to devise a plan to help change the law or take his protest to the correct officials in a manner other than this. First do no harm.






when you work for someone, your employer owns your time. The clerk sold a certain amount of her time to her employer. The clerk works for the town, the town work to support the people of the town. Therefore the clerk is obligated to do her job. AND IF YOU COLLECT MONEY ,,, YOU HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO COUNT THE MONEY YOU ARE COLLECTING. I THINK IF EVERYONE STARTED PAYING CASH ESPECIALLY IN ONE DOLLAR BILLS MAYBE EVERYDAY HUMANS WOULD BE MORE IN TOUCH WITH THE VALUE OF THE DOLLAR, INSTEAD OF JUST COMPLAINING TO THE PERSON NEXT TO THEM. MOST PEOPLE JUST COMPLAIN, AT LEAST THIS GUY TOOK AN ACTION AND MADE A POINT TO HIS CHILDREN

[T Smith]

Had I been the officer, I would have arrested him for creating a public disturbance and taken him to jail along with his money. When comfortably in his cell, I would then hand him his little sack of money with instructions that when he was done unfolding it, I would take him back to the tax office where he could pay the nice Lady his taxes,
and his car is still parked.:wizard:

Yes. He should be arrested. You see, we serfs need to know our place. In medieval times, we knew our place. The king would send a member of the aristocracy, usually on horseback, into the far reaches of the kingdom to collect the taxes. Back then, as an appreciation to our overlords for granting our serfdom, we commoners toiled in the fields, usually from sun-up to sun-down, and then surrendered a good portion of our crop to the tax collector. This was the right thing to do. As lowly serfs, what right did we have to our own labor? We all knew our place.

In that sense, nothing's really changed from then until today, except today we are perhaps better trained and conditioned to keep ourselves in line. It's not that we no longer respect our place--we just don't know where our place is. You see, the problem was, back then, sending a noble on horseback wasn't always the most efficient way for our overlords to usurp the fruits of our labor. As part of the aristocracy, the tax collector demarcated the social order far too plainly for all to see. And so the laws of human nature fostered a growing resentment among the peasantry that inevitably invited revolt; we peasants got sick and tired of working all day just to hand over the hard-earn fruits of our labor to our betters. There eventually came the day when the bravest (or most daft) among us refused to go out into the fields and instead organized an ambush for the nobleman a mile or so down the road. With hatred and vengeance in our hearts we waited in a ditch as the tax collector strode on his high horse into the village demanding our foodstuff. Of course this invariably ended badly for everyone. The noble and his horse were clubbed to death with sticks and stones, the king never received his well-deserved tax, and the perpetrators of the crime, if not discovered and drawn and quartered, left the king no recourse but to burn the entire village to the ground and/or to slaughter every man woman and child. This would send a strong message that the crime of tax evasion (and the somewhat lesser crime of murdering a noble) would not go unpunished in his kingdom. Revolt is never an acceptable form of dissent in the kingdom.

Fast forward a thousand years or so; today our bondage is much more subtle and our serfdom is much more efficient. The overwhelming majority of us have no idea we are even slaves. We accept, without too much thought about it, that our very bodies and our very labor no longer belong to us. We have been conditioned and trained to embrace our serfdom as a perfectly ideal condition of life, and to do in a perfect way what our ancestors did in an imperfect way. So we cherish the privileges granted to us and hold extreme disdain for those who dare remind us of our place. We are to be grateful to our overlords, and we are to cause no public disturbances! With delicious irony, the very blood, sweat, and tears from our bodies is the very energy employed against us, enabling our own indoctrination and re-education so that we learn to love our servitude, to enjoy a state of affairs by which any decent standard we ought not to enjoy.

And so it was that the noble class learned very quickly after a number of their very own heads ended up on sticks parading through the streets that it was a pretty smart idea to remove themselves from the battle. Instead of sending their own, they began employing the serfs themselves to do those jobs that garnered resentment, and whose efforts produced results clearly contrary to their own interests; if a grave for a dissident was to be dug, a serf would dig the grave and he would do so cheerfully. There was certainly a very good reason that serf belonged six feet under the ground. If a war was to be fought, for profit or power (it didn't really matter) serf would kill serf, instead of noble killing noble. If there was to be an ambush or revolt, those who would revolt would be going against their own class, serf against serf, while the nobles remained invisible and pulling the strings. If a tax needed to be collected for the king, then the serfs would collect the tax and would do so happily, with pride and cause; the serf itself would be the perfect utility of usurpation for the king, the perfect slave. You get the picture.

But I digress. I say to hell with this guy! That treacherous disturber of the peace! Arrest him!

[Ahnung-quay]

Well I think it's a bit extreme that the man was arrested. Maybe if he had taken the money in not crumpled up, she would have counted it and receipted it. We'll never know.

I choose to have compassion for people working these jobs. Many of them are just trying to put food on the table just like everyone else. I don't think so much of myself that I can cast judgement on them.

If they aren't awake, I pray for them to wake up. If they are awake, I pray for them to have the courage to continue to go to a job that they can't stand and take crap from the public at least until they can change to something else.

[ceetee9]

Had I been the officer, I would have arrested him for creating a public disturbance and taken him to jail along with his money. When comfortably in his cell, I would then hand him his little sack of money with instructions that when he was done unfolding it, I would take him back to the tax office where he could pay the nice Lady his taxes,
and his car is still parked.:wizard:I'm sorry you feel that way sirdipswitch but your comment illustrates quite well how so many are so quick to condemn anyone who does not conform to the "accepted/programmed" behavior rather than asking why would this individual do such a thing and try to understand his frustration.

Have you ever had to personally deal with authority figures who could care less about your concerns or situation whether what you did was "legal" or not? I can totally relate to this individual. It isn't bad enough that we have a faction of psychopathic controllers who are robbing us blind and stripping us of our rights and freedoms at a feverish pace, but we also have to deal with those who don't (or won't) even consider that they are aiding and abetting them by working a job that does their dirty work for them.

As long as we have sympathizers for those who are enslaving us and/or are destroying the country and planet whether directly or indirectly, we will never resolve the problems that confront us all.