Light body

[Beren]

Ever present change is somewhat going into a mode where we don`t feel the main tide but we see we`re moving with it.
Events in the world are there essentially as a reflection of our inner state of being in the last few thousands years.

But let us not forget about the knowledge we got through spirit revelations in many people and their various kind of energy, spirit work.
Knowledge of the direct creatorship of everyone of us.

Now, more than ever is crucial for all of us to focus. To observe our thoughts, to create higher frequencies. That`s how we start the higher engines of the universe thus the stage is moving into a desirable outcome- the bliss.
Otherwise we will add to the chaos.

So Light body...

A vehicle. A tool for multi dimensional work. All dimensions matter now. Since we are God`s children and thus inheritors and gods all belongs to us. Hence we got to appreciate all dimensions and realities. So no use of running away into some pleasure dimension while the house is burning in this current 3 -D one. Sort of, place the fantasies aside and actively create through seen and unseen worlds.

Spirit world, matter world. Energy worlds...all is important.

And there is no blueprint to - how to create a light body.
Your soul knows and it will do it spontaneously when its time is right. Your task is to arrange the circumstances so that soul can just work smoothly.

So let`s do it and by far please contemplate Love in everything you say, think or do. Love as the power.
Infuse it in everything otherwise light body will not be possible.

Shine on you crazy diamonds!

;)

[Guish]

Absolutely. I remember saying a while ago that as we keep increasing selfless actions without motives, we get closer to bliss/godliness. All actions that do not benefit the ego bring us closer to others and we feel the oneness. I remember Yogananda reached a stage where he saw everything as a reflection of god.

[Grizz Griswold]

Absolutely. I remember saying a while ago that as we keep increasing selfless actions without motives, we get closer to bliss/godliness. All actions that do not benefit the ego bring us closer to others and we feel the oneness. I remember Yogananda reached a stage where he saw everything as a reflection of god.

We give only to our self, all others being a facet of ourselves and God/All That is.
As we see others, we see our self and God---all things being a mirror.
Lets join together with Thanksgiving and Love for all!

In Lak' ech
b

[Guish]

Absolutely. I remember saying a while ago that as we keep increasing selfless actions without motives, we get closer to bliss/godliness. All actions that do not benefit the ego bring us closer to others and we feel the oneness. I remember Yogananda reached a stage where he saw everything as a reflection of god.

We give only to our self, all others being a facet of ourselves and God/All That is.
As we see others, we see our self and God---all things being a mirror.
Lets join together with Thanksgiving and Love for all!

In Lak' ech
b

That's a powerful prayer, Brother.

[Beren]

Absolutely. I remember saying a while ago that as we keep increasing selfless actions without motives, we get closer to bliss/godliness. All actions that do not benefit the ego bring us closer to others and we feel the oneness. I remember Yogananda reached a stage where he saw everything as a reflection of god.


Yogananda is a good example then.

It is interesting as I understand the quantum physics and the spirit- in order to move to and through other dimensions you need to attune your self to higher vibrations or you would simply stated, just be grounded.

Not allowed into higher realms.

Light body is a vehicle of sorts for traveling. But a conscious one.
There are other beings who can use tech to travel through space but very few if any can go higher without conscious technology- spirit.
That`s a first requirement for universe exploration if one wants to move from square one.

Now seeing all as a reflection of God is a great step in further understanding how universe works.
Quantum physics 1-1.

[Grizz Griswold]

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Namaste
b

[Beren]

Grizz,

it doesn`t have the conscious connection with the Course of miracles you mention. But as you know in highways of the spirit all is connected.

Light body as the vehicle with whom you travel through dimensions.
A spirit tech.

But as you sense and know it cannot be bought, given, obtained. You can only create it.
Love is the guiding force behind this process.

And it contains all the elements you just wrote of.

:)

[Guish]

In my experience, there are two types of emotions. Emotions created by a thinking process, probably creating a low frequency and emotions which are spontaneous. For example, if my child cries, I don't think about anything. I just take him in my arms and console him. This is a pure natural action not done by the ego. Hence, spiritual practice is based on melting this ego so that we can see the self which has always been inside us. Automatically, a new reality is formed. I mentioned earlier in Chris' thread that when the behavior of people changes, small miracles happen.

Traveling to other dimensions is something I didn't experience vastly. I do remember that it was possible for me to close my eyes and get carried away to somewhere with the scenery being in encrypted form. At that point, I was aware that I left the body and I could come back when I wanted to.

5 years ago, I got scared. I reached a stage where it wasn't necessary to even eat. There was a need for nothing and I was hardly communicating with people. My wife was really concerned about it. At this point, if I just meditated, I doubt that I would have lasted long in the body. It will sound silly but I forced myself to do routine things so that I get back to "normality".

[Grizz Griswold]

Grizz,

it doesn`t have the conscious connection with the Course of miracles you mention. But as you know in highways of the spirit all is connected.

Light body as the vehicle with whom you travel through dimensions.
A spirit tech.

But as you sense and know it cannot be bought, given, obtained. You can only create it.
Love is the guiding force behind this process.

And it contains all the elements you just wrote of.

:)

Yes I can see there is quite a lot of difference now.

What i mentioned from ACIM, is basically turning yourself over to your
internal teacher.

Taking the mind out of gear and leaving a blank space for the Teacher/Spirit
to enter.

No supplication, nor even a thought how anything should be.

This is all left to God/All that is.

This is although, a place of Joy, Thanksgiving, and Love.

With Love
b

[Meggings]

Grizz wrote: Not sure what "Light Body" is Beren.
No supplication, nor even a thought how anything should be. This is all left to God/All that is.
This is although, a place of Joy, Thanksgiving, and Love.

Guish wrote: 5 years ago, I got scared. I reached a stage where it wasn't necessary to even eat. There was a need for nothing and I was hardly communicating with people. My wife was really concerned about it. At this point, if I just meditated, I doubt that I would have lasted long in the body. It will sound silly but I forced myself to do routine things so that I get back to "normality".

Beren wrote: Light body as the vehicle with whom you travel through dimensions. A spirit tech.

Margaret adds reflections on experiencing all the above. Having lived as Grizz describes, with no thought of how things should be, it is true that Spirit flows through the vehicle and "does". But it does SO LITTLE that people around you need to feed you, do laundry, care for you, else you would not eat. I sat and "beamed". My partner one day came to me and said this was not working for him, that I had to "do" something, participate in life. I had no opinion about what he said, and was only aware of loving compassion for him. Sitting and beaming golden rays does not work well in our western society.

As Guish wrote, he had to do mundane things to anchor himself in 3D life. I could not allow myself even one thought of God or I would rise up out of body. It was not an easy time returning to our society's version of life. It took years and years to come down and stay here. Without the anchor of my partner, to whom I would run and hold onto his arm whenever I was rising up, I would not be here today. Guish writes about this, that if he had meditated he might not have lasted long in body.

Beren, I am intrigued by what you write about the light body being "a spirit tech" to enable multidimensional travel. I offer my experience of seeing my own "soul body" leave my physical form and go off travelling in other dimensions. I also have seen my own Light Body. They are quite different in appearance, and I believe even partially in function. With my soul body I have travelled freely far and wide, and even left the material universes. But the Light Body I believe (my inner teacher knowing perhaps) is the vehicle that becomes permanent, that can be stationed in 3D / 4D, to be picked up and animated whenever the soul wants to experience physical life here. It is an immortal physical body that we are building here now, for the new phase of humanity. I believe we have bodies on many planes of existence, in many parallel worlds. I have travelled and seen such things. We are vaster than we comprehend.

But then, I am not a teacher, and only wanted to share my experiential understanding of soul body versus light body. I may be wrong, for still my inner teacher must communicate through the veil.

[Agape]

In my experience, there are two types of emotions. Emotions created by a thinking process, probably creating a low frequency and emotions which are spontaneous. For example, if my child cries, I don't think about anything. I just take him in my arms and console him. This is a pure natural action not done by the ego. Hence, spiritual practice is based on melting this ego so that we can see the self which has always been inside us. Automatically, a new reality is formed. I mentioned earlier in Chris' thread that when the behavior of people changes, small miracles happen.

Traveling to other dimensions is something I didn't experience vastly. I do remember that it was possible for me to close my eyes and get carried away to somewhere with the scenery being in encrypted form. At that point, I was aware that I left the body and I could come back when I wanted to.

5 years ago, I got scared. I reached a stage where it wasn't necessary to even eat. There was a need for nothing and I was hardly communicating with people. My wife was really concerned about it. At this point, if I just meditated, I doubt that I would have lasted long in the body. It will sound silly but I forced myself to do routine things so that I get back to "normality".


I've experienced something similar , so I believe and understand , during my 6 year intense meditation years I lost all interests in any worldly matter/s at all ,
including foods and tastes of course , and it took time and will to reverse the process to some deal .
The question is , if you did not 'turn back' where do you think the process was really heading to ... ?


:panda:

[Guish]

In my experience, there are two types of emotions. Emotions created by a thinking process, probably creating a low frequency and emotions which are spontaneous. For example, if my child cries, I don't think about anything. I just take him in my arms and console him. This is a pure natural action not done by the ego. Hence, spiritual practice is based on melting this ego so that we can see the self which has always been inside us. Automatically, a new reality is formed. I mentioned earlier in Chris' thread that when the behavior of people changes, small miracles happen.

Traveling to other dimensions is something I didn't experience vastly. I do remember that it was possible for me to close my eyes and get carried away to somewhere with the scenery being in encrypted form. At that point, I was aware that I left the body and I could come back when I wanted to.

5 years ago, I got scared. I reached a stage where it wasn't necessary to even eat. There was a need for nothing and I was hardly communicating with people. My wife was really concerned about it. At this point, if I just meditated, I doubt that I would have lasted long in the body. It will sound silly but I forced myself to do routine things so that I get back to "normality".


I've experienced something similar , so I believe and understand , during my 6 year intense meditation years I lost all interests in any worldly matter/s at all ,
including foods and tastes of course , and it took time and will to reverse the process to some deal .
The question is , if you did not 'turn back' where do you think the process was really heading to ... ?


:panda:

Hi Agape,

Thanks for telling your experience. The Gospel of Ramakrishna clarifies these things for us. Forcing myself to live a normal life did brought me down the ladder, I'd say. Nevertheless, the spirit does call me from time to time. My throat still burns and my breath slows down on its own at times. You'll remember that I mentioned about it in a thread some time ago and TraineeHuman advised me to clean myself up. I've quit meat completely and I now drink a lot of water and green tea. I'm no longer able to swallow any processed food. Kundalini still annoys me from time to time though. Random sexual pulses still comes from the energy kicks in.

"The Vedas speak of seven planes where the mind dwells. When the mind is immersed in worldliness it dwells in the three lower planes - at the navel, the organ of generation, and the organ of evacuation. In that state the mind loses all its higher visions - it broods only on 'woman and gold'*.

The fourth plane of the mind is at the heart. When the mind dwells there, one has the first glimpse of spiritual consciousness. One sees light all around. Such a man, perceiving the divine light, becomes speechless with wonder and says: 'Ah! What is this? What is this?' His mind does not go downward to the objects of the world.


"The fifth plane of the mind is at the throat. When the mind reaches this, the aspirant becomes free from all ignorance and illusion. He does not enioy talking or hearing about anything but God. If people talk about worldly things, he leaves the place at once.


"The sixth plane is at the forehead. When the mind reaches it, the aspirant sees the form of God day and night. But even then a little trace of ego remains. At the sight of that incomparable beauty of God's form, one becomes intoxicated and rushes forth to touch and embrace it. But one doesn't succeed. It is like the light inside a lantern. One feels as if one could touch the light, but one cannot on account of the pane of glass.


"In the top of the head is the seventh plane. When the mind rises there, one goes into samadhi. Then the Brahmajnani directly perceives Brahman. But in that state his body does not last many days. He remains unconscious of the outer world. If milk is poured into his mouth, it runs out. Dwelling on this plane of consciousness, he gives up his body in twenty-one days. That is the condition of the Brahmajnani.

Source: Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna

[Agape]

Well , I've been cross-posting about this in another thread earlier today ..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80400-Blue-Avians&p=941406&viewfull=1#post941406

So I'm not asking you about who said what since I have studied the theory thoroughly from several traditions much earlier in my life but what am I really asking is .. the same question I asked myself ..
what did you expect to occur , possibly, if you open your mind to any direction .. if you did not quite 'return' but continued strictly on that path ?

What kind of transformation of your self would you expect ? Accept ? Except ?


:hug:

[Meggings]

Agape asks: "what did you expect to occur , possibly, if you open your mind to any direction .. if you did not quite 'return' but continued strictly on that path ?
What kind of transformation of your self would you expect ? Accept ? Except ?"

Quite simply, if during the times I have been absent from body for extended periods of time I did not return to body, I would have missed opportunity to do what I came here to do. We all have plans of things we come to accomplish in this 3D lifetime. I posit there are ascended beings who come into body to assist now and then, here and there, and so for these beings, there is not much by way of "transformation of your self" that would be experienced by staying away from your chosen vehicle.

Is this close to what you are asking as response, Agape?

[Agape]

Agape asks: "what did you expect to occur , possibly, if you open your mind to any direction .. if you did not quite 'return' but continued strictly on that path ?
What kind of transformation of your self would you expect ? Accept ? Except ?"

Quite simply, if during the times I have been absent from body for extended periods of time I did not return to body, I would have missed opportunity to do what I came here to do. We all have plans of things we come to accomplish in this 3D lifetime. I posit there are ascended beings who come into body to assist now and then, here and there, and so for these beings, there is not much by way of "transformation of your self" that would be experienced by staying away from your chosen vehicle.

Is this close to what you are asking as response, Agape?


No, I'm merely curious what would happen with me if I've continued further in my rather balanced meditation practise in terms of physical phenomena and if we are capable of crossing the 'light boundary' limit in ways that I find little hesitant to talk of ..

;)

[Meggings]

Agape: "I'm merely curious what would happen with me if I've continued further in my rather balanced meditation practise in terms of physical phenomena and if we are capable of crossing the 'light boundary' limit in ways that I find little hesitant to talk of..."

If you are curious, why not let go and find out for yourself? What holds you back? Fear?

Don't quite grasp what you refer to as "a light boundary limit". Care to explain?

[Agape]

Agape: "I'm merely curious what would happen with me if I've continued further in my rather balanced meditation practise in terms of physical phenomena and if we are capable of crossing the 'light boundary' limit in ways that I find little hesitant to talk of..."

If you are curious, why not let go and find out for yourself? What holds you back? Fear?

Don't quite grasp what you refer to as "a light boundary limit". Care to explain?

I will . I had a task within this civilisation that's why I did not go further .

The only thing that made me 'go back' was feeling of responsibility and compassion for others .

I think it would be inconsiderate of me to expand on this idea .


:panda:

[Beren]

Light body as a means for interdimensional travel.
In spirit you travel without limits and are wherever your thoughts lead you.

But since God`s presence is in all dimensions - a light body is our way or bridging the gap between this and higher ones. A first step towards high ways of soul and spirit.

Meggings,
you`re right about the various types of "vehicles" through the other dimensions.

In spirit form, we are formless. We can assume anything we think of. On lower forms we need a tool, a vehicle to get us there where we want to.

Like a car is a tool for a physical body to be transferred to other location.
Likewise light body is a spirit vehicle of transporting us into the realms we cannot enter now with our bodies of flesh.

[Guish]

Well , I've been cross-posting about this in another thread earlier today ..

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80400-Blue-Avians&p=941406&viewfull=1#post941406

So I'm not asking you about who said what since I have studied the theory thoroughly from several traditions much earlier in my life but what am I really asking is .. the same question I asked myself ..
what did you expect to occur , possibly, if you open your mind to any direction .. if you did not quite 'return' but continued strictly on that path ?

What kind of transformation of your self would you expect ? Accept ? Except ?


:hug:

It's hard to answer my Friend. I intuitively knew that it was a breaking point. Going back is still an illusion though. Even if I live in a society and have a job where I need to deal with people, I don't find a place for me. I don't indulge in chatting too much and prefer to be quiet most of the time. Did I really come back? Regarding expectation, I had none. I've been practising zazen where each session is treated as a pure experience and one do not expect something to happen out of meditation. In Quantum Physics, there's something I call the observer's trap. If one is looking for something, one will find something. Is the thing real? What if we don't look for it, what do we find?

It was great talking to you.

Cheers,

Hugs and love,
Geerish.