Call to create new 'MEGA-ARMY'

[jackovesk]

European Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker calls for EU army

March 10, 2015

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The European Commission boss has called to create a European army because he fears the group is not being taken seriously. Source: Supplied


EUROPEAN Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker has called for the creation of an EU army in the wake of rising tensions with Russia.

Juncker said the force could help counter new threats beyond the bloc’s borders and defend European “values”, in an interview with Germany’s Welt am Sonntag newspaper.

“You would not create a European army to use it immediately,” he was quoted as saying.

“But a common army among the Europeans would convey to Russia that we are serious about defending the values of the European Union.”

He said a joint EU force would also lead to more efficient spending on military equipment and drive further integration of the bloc’s 28 member states.

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Ambitious plans: European Commission President Jean-Claude Juncker thinks an army would combat rising tensions with Russia. Picture: AFP/Emmanuel Dunand Source: AFP


“Such an army would help us design a common foreign and security policy,” the former Luxembourg prime minister said, but added that the force should not challenge NATO’s defence role.

“Europe’s image has suffered dramatically and also in terms of foreign policy, we don’t seem to be taken entirely seriously.”

The proposal was likely to rile opponents of deeper EU integration, such as Britain, but has won some support from Germany.

The newspaper said that former NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana would present a report on Monday in Brussels calling for a new European security strategy, including military capability to intervene beyond EU borders.

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[Baby Steps]

Europe is currently in the farcical situation of having collective defense needs but totally different national infrastructure for training,supply,purchasing etc.
This should be merged.It would represent greater value for money.
It could be done so that countries would not lose their manufacturing capabilities, and they would not constitutionally HAVE to join a military adventure.

This may not represent some kind of sinister escalation or threat to Russia.
Instead it may be a preparation for a great NATO schism. The Germans and French are extremely alarmed at their own powerlessness in the face of NATO war provocations in Ukraine.
Could they be preparing to ask USA to leave Europe?

[amor]

This looks like a move on the part of the Globalists to remove Nation status from the members of the EU by creating fear with the Russuan situation, which, in turn, suggests that the entire thing is a put up job to force Combined Block of Force while eliminating National independence and power.

[yelik]

Seems like a tactic to try to cover up the problems and push the NWO agenda. Create an army and find an enemy to distract attention from the financial quagmire.

[lucidity]

Hello Siblings,

I believe this move is not as advertised at all.
In my view... the intentions behind it are excellent.

The real problem isn't Russian aggression.
The real problem is American aggression... specifically,
the USA has shown itself able to freely use Europe as a stationing
platform for it's own troops. So we now have significant
American military build up in Latvia, Estonia, Poland,
Bulgaria and Romania.

100 more US tanks in Lativa in March 2015
http://rt.com/news/239021-us-tanks-latvia-arrive/

140 piece military parade by Russia's border in Estonia in Feb 2015
http://rt.com/news/235311-estonia-border-military-parade/

A central issue, is that 'NATO' is basically a joint
European/USA army under the effective control of the USA.
This is the key problem.... Who controls the armies.

The calls for a new European mega-army are really a
rejection of American control of NATO. This is a problem
because the USA has been actively planning to initiate a
proxy war with Russia on European (Ukrainian) soil.
The Europeans (quite understandably) don't want that.

The ideal endgame here would be to abolish NATO (in Europe)
install a new a new European Army under something like a
European Security Council and seal and strengthen it by
having Russia join the club. This would kill any further
attempts by America to start a war with Russia.

There was never any original argument between Europe and Russia.
On the basis of the Ukrainian crisis and the downing of Flight
MH17 the Europeans reluctantly agreed to sanctions against
Russia. But it's now becoming apparent that the Ukrainian
crisis was a false flag event staged with USA planning and
sponsorship.

All-in-all this 'mega-army' concept is excellent news.
This is 'push-back' of the highest order.
We might actually see the Europeans rescue the Ukrainians
from yet more bloodshed and block a future war with Russia.
(This is, afterall, a WW3 scenario).

be happy

lucidity :-)

[yelik]

The problem is the illuminati / Cabal control money, military, corporations and governments and the all important ET agenda and technology. The illuminati plan many decades ahead and absolutely nothing in politics happens by chance. The idea of a European military is not new and is still an idea

[Cidersomerset]

On the subject of drills and false flags......Russia is not going
to invade Europe , but it will defend itself.

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NATO build-up in E.Europe boasts power to 'deter threat from Moscow'

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Published on 10 Mar 2015


Over a hundred American armoured vehicles have rolled into Latvia, as NATO
steps up its military activity just 300 kilometres from the Russian border. The
move has been described by a senior U.S. military official as a demonstration
of the ability to deter the threat from Moscow.


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There are articles everyday about this on Davids site , I post
some now and then, but do not have the time ontop of the
other threads I keep up......




The Origin of the ‘New Cold War’

Tuesday 10th March 2015 at 10:17 By David Icke


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This will be history, replacing myth. So: if at the start it might seem
unbelievable, I request the reader experience the replacement of myth
by actual history. The world in our time will come directly alive via the
most-reliable sources that exist; and it clearly contradicts, it disproves,
the widespread myth that has been projected from the ‘news.’

To start with: the ‘new Cold War,’ against Russia, is something of a
misnomer, because it differs from the original version, against the
U.S.S.R., in that it’s already a hot war, which started in Ukraine as
being the key proxy-state for the American Government’s chief
foreign-policy aim, of defeating Russia; and it’s a war that is very
bloody, and widely lied-about in both the U.S. and Europe, but that
is discussed in Russia as if it were somehow the result of mere errors
by Western powers, when in fact all of the Western leaders knew from
the get-go that this was intended to be a lynching of Russia by Uncle
Sam, and when the EU have been going along with this aim because
the U.S. aristocracy supposedly have the interests of European
aristocrats in mind and not only their own: it’s ’the Western Alliance,’ after all.’

Read more: The Origin of the ‘New Cold War’

http://rinf.com/alt-news/featured/origin-new-cold-war/

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[Cidersomerset]

One of the reasons for the complexities of the Ukraine is its
history with Russia and the mixed population. It is like
Northern Ireland only the pop of N I is just under 2 million
and the pop of the Ukraine is approx 46 million so you can
see the ethnic divide is much bigger.

When the Ukraine separated from the Soviet Union after
the collapse . the US and UK agreed to keep the
sovereign borders of the new country under Kiev's
authority. Like many agreements there were complications
waiting to explode years down the line.

In this interview which is very good Greig Roberts suggests
among other views that this current phase and coup was
organised by the neo -con factions in Washington to close
the Russian naval base at Sevastopol in the Crimea and
this is why the ethnic Russians with support from Moscow
voted to re join Russia,

Russia and the Neocon March to World War 3 with Paul Craig Roberts

Tuesday 10th March 2015 at 10:13 By David Icke

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Published on 30 Jan 2015


The Neocon march to World War III with Russia is explored with retired Assistant Secretary
of the Treasury, Paul Craig Roberts. How George W. Bush and Dick Cheney managed to
embolden the far right towards reckless endangerment of global peace, and how Russia has
become the focus of the static is discussed. The possibility of global economic collapse, plus
the Reagan administration figure talks about how the political landscape has changed for the
worse in this uncensored political discussion on Buzzsaw, hosted by Sean Stone

[Cidersomerset]

Another article which could develop as the US is the largest cash
donor , but if it did would undermine the neutrality of the UN.

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Traitorous But True – UN Framework Document For US Subjugation, US Military To Be Absorbed Into UN Peacekeepers and Disbanded

Tuesday 10th March 2015 at 09:29 By David Icke


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‘For most Americans, the fact that the United States has filed with the United Nations a document pledging to submit to UN military
authority and to dismantle our own military capability in the process would seem unbelievable. The “progressives” have set us down
that path and while it won’t happen overnight, they fully intend for it to happen.

The United Nations is far more than an international money skimming operation disguised as an aid organization. It was established
as the foundation for a world government, one in which the United States ultimately assumes a subordinate position as just another
of many member nations, to unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats. It will be modeled along the lines of a worldwide EU, only more
austere, oppressive and authoritarian.’

Read more: Traitorous But True – UN Framework Document For US Subjugation, US Military To Be Absorbed Into UN Peacekeepers and Disbanded

http://www.rickwells.us/traitorous-but-true-un-framework-document-for-us-subjugation-us-military-to-be-absorbed-into-un-peacekeepers-disbanded/

[WhiteLove]

I find truth seeking as a kind of responsibility. In this spirit, if there is something I really don't like, it is when somebody in the elite wants to form a new army of human suffering. Those kinds of persons, who want to root new wars and invest in the wars of the future, those should be quarantined by the peacemakers until peace is secured. Killing has never worked and never will. I hope this crazy evil idea will result in a splitting of the EU until it no longer exists. The world does not need borders, separations, armies and wars. It needs peace. Why do top policy makers find the world does not need peace. It's such a simple idea, yet the policy makers really struggle with it. They don't seem to understand that peace creates peace and war creates war. They try to explain why peace needs war and they will never ever make any sense.

[jake gittes]

I find truth seeking as a kind of responsibility. In this spirit, if there is something I really don't like, it is when somebody in the elite wants to form a new army of human suffering. Those kinds of persons, who want to root new wars and invest in the wars of the future, those should be quarantined by the peacemakers until peace is secured. Killing has never worked and never will. I hope this crazy evil idea will result in a splitting of the EU until it no longer exists. The world does not need borders, separations, armies and wars. It needs peace. Why do top policy makers find the world does not need peace. It's such a simple idea, yet the policy makers really struggle with it. They don't seem to understand that peace creates peace and war creates war. They try to explain why peace needs war and they will never ever make any sense.

I agree with everything you're saying. Unfortunately, they lie whenever they say war creates peace. What they really mean, and what they have always meant, is war creates $$ for a select few morally-bankrupt psychopaths.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Another article which could develop as the US is the largest cash
donor , but if it did would undermine the neutrality of the UN.

There's no realistic way this could happen. It might be the wet dream of the European ruling class but there are some deep-seated powers in the US military itself who don't seem to be taking any orders even from the bankers.

As far as Europeans pooling together for a common military, I'm hoping that the individual European nations will find that idea as bad as I do.

Realistically, if any common threat really emerges against Europe, European nations have shown that they have no difficulties forming a powerful coalition. Maybe not every nation always wants to contribute but to try to force them is going to cause increased internal tensions and I agree with the feelings of many British on this, that this is an effort ultimately to reduce the independent nations into dependencies upon a central European government. And many nations of Europe know that Russia is not a threat, and have no interest confronting Russia over something in which it is really the victim, and this is really why someone from the EU is wanting to force Europe together militarily.

In the United States, the federal government is probably the most inefficient structure in our entire country. State governments seem to work in spite of the federal government. And Europe is much more fragmented linguistically and culturally than the US is. And as a citizen of the world I would not want to see those cultures all melted together and lost into some generic European entity.

[Maia Gabrial]

As long as people are kept glorifying wars, violence, assassins, black ops, murderers, psychopaths, criminals, as well as greed, lust, perversions, etc., there will never be a chance for peace and harmony on our world.

I sure hope the majority of us aren't falling for this crap anymore. I don't want to see anymore people being killed or maimed on any side PERIOD! The only enemies we have are the ones who scream the loudest for war and those who profit the most from them.... We don't need no more stinkin' wars!

Remember this old saying? -- "What if they gave a war and no one showed up?"

[jackovesk]

As long as people are kept glorifying wars, violence, assassins, black ops, murderers, psychopaths, criminals, as well as greed, lust, perversions, etc., there will never be a chance for peace and harmony on our world.

I sure hope the majority of us aren't falling for this crap anymore. I don't want to see anymore people being killed or maimed on any side PERIOD! The only enemies we have are the ones who scream the loudest for war and those who profit the most from them.... We don't need no more stinkin' wars!

Remember this old saying? -- "What if they gave a war and no one showed up?"



"What if they gave a war and no one showed up?"

Exactly Maia Gabrial, EUROPEAN Commission chief Jean-Claude Juncker must be on ((CRACK)) if he thinks he's going to build an Army of ((Cuturally different Nations)) to take on Russia...:pound:

The more likely scenario is the new ((Mega-Army)) would turn against their ((EU Progenitors)) and ally with Russia...:wizard:

[Cidersomerset]

Keiser Report: War is racket, that’s why EU needs an army

Wednesday 11th March 2015 at 08:11 By David Icke

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Published on 10 Mar 2015


Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert discuss the war racket, the build
to war and the successful campaign by Stacy to get the Guardian
to change the description under a photo of a ‘far-right’ woman
named ‘Anaconda’ in Ukraine. In the second half, Max interviews
five-time world snooker champion Ronnie O’Sullivan about the
snooker industry, winning property as the only way on to the
property ladder (other than inheritance) and much more.