Stop giving them power.

[shadowstalker]

I was watching some videos earlier, and these folk where talking about how singers are "puppets of the Illuminati" o.k. if that is true then remember you said that and start praying for these puppets and stop verbally bashing these poor souls. Stop calling them all kinds of nasty dirty names and get with your own so called program. do something positive and constructive, not demeaning and destructive, How hard could that possibly be, from so called Christians and or so called spiritual people.

To the religious folk and people in general.
The Bible also says "Tho shalt not judge lest ye be judged",

My perspective:
Judgement is a curse upon yourself and others, it chips away at the spirit of all involved, it is a negative force, with negative intend, it is a force no better then what the Illuminati do to us, you are falling into there trap, judgement and hate, give them power, stop giving it to them....

Stop feeding what you would consider "The Beast" :rockon:

You can take it or leave it :clap2: :cool::hug::wub:

Remember what you through out comes back.

[Ikarusion]

not sure if i should thank you, for it could be seen as judgement.

ah wel, thx for the tip. :P

whenever i judge someone else, mentally, it makes me smile afterwards, because i recognize i cant totally know how it is to be that person, hence my judgement can never be accurate.

[shadowstalker]

not sure if i should thank you, for it could be seen as judgement.

ah wel, thx for the tip. :P

whenever i judge someone else, mentally, it makes me smile afterwards, because i recognize i cant totally know how it is to be that person, hence my judgement can never be accurate.

As there will always be some form of judgement
I was talking about Negative Judgement in essence.
And the effects it can play on the spirit.
Positive judgement is just as strong as negative, it's all in the intent.
Where does ones heart truly lie at the time.

[Earthlink]

i think we both just said similar things, with different words:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?80472-Overwhelmed-by-all-the-bad-things-happening-in-the-world.../page4

[lucidity]

I was watching some videos earlier, and these folk where talking about how singers are "puppets of the Illuminati" o.k. if that is true then remember you said that and start praying for these puppets and stop verbally bashing these poor souls. Stop calling them all kinds of nasty dirty names and get with your own so called program. do something positive and constructive, not demeaning and destructive, How hard could that possibly be, from so called Christians and or so called spiritual people.

To the religious folk and people in general.
The Bible also says "Tho shalt not judge lest ye be judged",

My perspective:
Judgement is a curse upon yourself and others, it chips away at the spirit of all involved, it is a negative force, with negative intend, it is a force no better then what the Illuminati do to us, you are falling into there trap, judgement and hate, give them power, stop giving it to them....

Stop feeding what you would consider "The Beast" :rockon:

You can take it or leave it :clap2: :cool::hug::wub:

Remember what you through out comes back.

Is it wrong of me to consider the actions of, for example,
Jimmy Saville, regard those actions as very bad... and judge him a bad person ?

Whilst reading the news stories about the utter farce that is the Ukrainian crisis,
whilst reading about all the poor civilians who've died, who've lost a leg, or an eye... ...
... is it wrong of me to decide that the f*ckers that kicked all this off
and who are attempting to keep the fires stoked... are bad people ?
Is _really_ wrong of me ?

When Monsanto plan to put rodent DNA into corn... is it wrong
of people to judge that plan as reckless, or simply wrong, and then to
protest against it in order to stop it happening ?

Protest and negative judgements serve a function.
They act as resist and condemn bad things.

Some of my negative judgements of myself... in earlier years...
have changed my behaviour over time. I'm a more civilised
human being today because of it.

My whole argument here is that, in many cases (not all),
negative judgements serve a positive purpose.

be happy

lucidity :-)

[East Sun]

I agree with you, lucidity.

Even on Avalon, sometimes I think that people are, maybe unintentionally, playing devils advocate or are goody-two-shoes. I'm not accusing anyone but it may be just a difference of opinion.

There are two sides to every argument or some people have their own agenda.
We shouldn't be splitting hairs while we try to find answers imo

[shadowstalker]

I am talking about judging folks we have no clue about, and using spirituality and or religion or holier than tho attitudes to feel better about our selves.
Glass houses break easily.

Yes Monsanto is wrong and the like and money is a big thing and so keeping to contract when it comes to keeping the family from getting killed off, if it is broken.
Yes rape is wrong and so on, I am talking about do WE REALLY know the person committing the crimes themselves the crime is the act and yes can be wrong, but what brought on the circumstance of the act of the crime.

Do we who live in such delicate glass houses need to be so vicious about it. Are we not better then this?

Can we not just use spirit and do some form of inner searching and ask our self, what is really going on?

I am not saying no one has a right to be angry, but it's what we do with that anger that makes the difference.

Don't let anger take such control the one goes out of control..

One must TRY to take control of ones emotions and get something positive done.

[Kelly Anne]

I am talking about judging folks we have no clue about, and using spirituality and or religion or holier than tho attitudes to feel better about our selves.
Glass houses break easily.

Yes Monsanto is wrong and the like and money is a big thing and so keeping to contract when it comes to keeping the family from getting killed off, if it is broken.
Yes rape is wrong and so on, I am talking about do WE REALLY know the person committing the crimes themselves the crime is the act and yes can be wrong, but what brought on the circumstance of the act of the crime.

Do we who live in such delicate glass houses need to be so vicious about it. Are we not better then this?

Can we not just use spirit and do some form of inner searching and ask our self, what is really going on?

I am not saying no one has a right to be angry, but it's what we do with that anger that makes the difference.

Don't let anger take such control the one goes out of control..

One must TRY to take control of ones emotions and get something positive done.


For me, I am more and more going back to past emotions, actions, thoughts etc.. the good and/or bad in all and looking further for what my intent was.

It is helping me a lot.

Intention I think can be underrated and the emotion is then misunderstood, at least with myself. With myself when I can, I rate the intention as good/bad, harmful/helpful before I rate the emotion/reaction/judgement.

[Guish]

I think you're hinting at "labeling people" rather than judging people. People act the way they do because of impulses or belief systems which they have in them. Hence, it makes no sense to hate/judge them. Therefore, social conditioning and impulses guide their identities in society and actions. Spirituality is transcending the identity and social conditioning. If a spiritual person feels superior, then it's the ego playing the trick again. A spiritual person becomes a simpler person with time and primary instincts lose their place. As lucidity said, it's important to analyze everything so that to reflect and refine/improve. Judging would be holding a grudge against someone. A lot of times, the way others behave is a reflection of our own ways. Every time someone reacts badly at you, ask yourself if you did behave like that before. It's a journey where we are constantly learning/improving or getting more and more lost in the matrix.

[Agape]

Yes we are giving them all the information , emotions , the message . Their only chance now are cray computers ..to process all the net content and create super-theory applicable to all and that will create major shift ...

...in few generations ...

;):behindsofa::alien::cantina:

[Pam]

I think judgement always comes back to self. If I am passing judgement on another it is always about me. I use that judgement as a spiritual tool to examine myself. The type of judgement that you mention is a type of transference. If I accuse another of being selfish or greedy I need to look at myself. Where am I being selfish and greedy? I find the psyche finds it easier to point the finger at someone else than to examine the issue. Also, if the ego can look at those traits in another, then my selfishness and greed can't be that bad because look at so and so!

[Guish]

I think judgement always comes back to self. If I am passing judgement on another it is always about me. I use that judgement as a spiritual tool to examine myself. The type of judgement that you mention is a type of transference. If I accuse another of being selfish or greedy I need to look at myself. Where am I being selfish and greedy? I find the psyche finds it easier to point the finger at someone else than to examine the issue. Also, if the ego can look at those traits in another, then my selfishness and greed can't be that bad because look at so and so!


I second this completely. We also attract people who reflect our own belief systems. In my workplace, there are other head of faculties who have employed teachers who display more or less the same kind of behaviors as them. One can just listen to them talking. They talk the same language. I'm recruiting one this week and after thinking about it deeply, the person has values which I believe in too. For example, the prospective teacher left the UK to come here after 9 years just because her parents grew old and she wanted to be near to them. I chose not to work outside Mauritius because my parents are still here. Not a coincidence, my friend.

[huyi82]

I was watching some videos earlier, and these folk where talking about how singers are "puppets of the Illuminati" o.k. if that is true then remember you said that and start praying for these puppets and stop verbally bashing these poor souls. Stop calling them all kinds of nasty dirty names and get with your own so called program. do something positive and constructive, not demeaning and destructive, How hard could that possibly be, from so called Christians and or so called spiritual people.

To the religious folk and people in general.
The Bible also says "Tho shalt not judge lest ye be judged",

My perspective:
Judgement is a curse upon yourself and others, it chips away at the spirit of all involved, it is a negative force, with negative intend, it is a force no better then what the Illuminati do to us, you are falling into there trap, judgement and hate, give them power, stop giving it to them....

Stop feeding what you would consider "The Beast" :rockon:

You can take it or leave it :clap2: :cool::hug::wub:

Remember what you through out comes back.

but they willingly sold their soul to the devil (bono openly admitted to doing so as well as others), and willing submitted themselves to evil for fame, of course they are going to be judged, it's to be expected, some superstars are MK ultra victims including michael jackson, their free will and who they were are gone, the whole music industry is heavily controlled and orchestrated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDM7D1teDco

[Canonman]

I was watching some videos earlier, and these folk where talking about how singers are "puppets of the Illuminati" o.k. if that is true then remember you said that and start praying for these puppets and stop verbally bashing these poor souls. Stop calling them all kinds of nasty dirty names and get with your own so called program. do something positive and constructive, not demeaning and destructive, How hard could that possibly be, from so called Christians and or so called spiritual people.

To the religious folk and people in general.
The Bible also says "Tho shalt not judge lest ye be judged",

My perspective:
Judgement is a curse upon yourself and others, it chips away at the spirit of all involved, it is a negative force, with negative intend, it is a force no better then what the Illuminati do to us, you are falling into there trap, judgement and hate, give them power, stop giving it to them....

Stop feeding what you would consider "The Beast" :rockon:

You can take it or leave it :clap2: :cool::hug::wub:

Remember what you through out comes back.


To start praying for these poor puppets? What about the thousands and millions of victims of their mind control? Sorry that they sold their souls to the devil, but it was their own choice!