You can't sue big pharma for damages???

[Maia Gabrial]

So tell me, is this right that big pharma is NOT held accountable for their drugs creating damage to users? You can't sue them because it might discourage them from making vaccines???? What?!? :rant: :rant: :rant:

Sounds like organized crime if you ask me.... :tsk: :tsk: :tsk:

sDGEe3vats0

[RunningDeer]

I heard one maybe two possible 'Freudian slips' from the defense attorney after Nancy Grace asks, “If you get the vaccine and you end up paralyzed like the little girl, Mary Sue, you can’t sue the manufacturer, Dianna?” “Why?”

Dianna Aizman’s response begins @ 4:45. [click here for short cut. (https://youtu.be/sDGEe3vats0?t=4m45s)]

“Becuz they don’t want to discourage people, uh, they don’t want to discourage vaccine companies from making these vaccines. Ah, obviously they are very important from a public health perspective. And they don’t want to discourage ah the vaccine manufacturers, the drug companies from making these vaccines that overall will have a, ya know…a benefit for the governm(ent)…ah the public.”

[East Sun]

You can sue anyone or company or entity any time you like. Don't listen to the big pharma. mouthpieces who will say anything they are told to tell the public. Everyone should know that.

[DeDukshyn]

You can sue anyone or company or entity any time you like. Don't listen to the big pharma. mouthpieces who will say anything they are told to tell the public. Everyone should know that.

Actually you can't for vaccines -- same in Canada as well; one can only sue the government that used your tax dollars to pay for the vaccine and will have to use tax dollars to pay your lawsuit if you win. That's how well set up that particular snake oil is ... Just the fact that no one ever sees a news story about someone suing a drug company for a vaccines creates a false sense of safety about them in the public. Many people are injured - some seriously - from vaccines every year. You never hear about it, because there is no suing and the media is directed to not report on it.

[OBwan]

Statement from the National Vaccine Injury Compensation website.

“Since the first National Vaccine Injury Compensation (VICP) claims” were filed in 1989, 3,981 compensation awards have been made. More than $2.8 billion in compensation awards has been paid to petitioners and more than $122.4 million has been paid to cover attorneys' fees and other legal costs.”

http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/data.html

[Ernie Nemeth]

Seems to me we might want to take a look at the definition of a virus:

From dictionary.com: Any of various simple submicroscopic parasites of plants, animals, and bacteria that often cause disease and that consist essentially of a core of RNA or DNA surrounded by a protein coat. Unable to replicate without a host cell, viruses are typically not considered living organisms.


Viruses are not alive?! They are like sub-programs or routines in a computer. Rogue programs we call viruses for this reason. Just like in a computer these viruses disrupt, commandeer or otherwise shunt the life processes of the host for its own purposes. Yet since it is dead, it has no purpose. It is basically introducing chaos into an ordered and lawful organization.

Sound familiar? I could go further, but I'll stop there. It should cause pause to think...

[AriG]

You can sue for any adverse drug reactions at any time. At least in the US.

[DeDukshyn]

Seems to me we might want to take a look at the definition of a virus:

From dictionary.com: Any of various simple submicroscopic parasites of plants, animals, and bacteria that often cause disease and that consist essentially of a core of RNA or DNA surrounded by a protein coat. Unable to replicate without a host cell, viruses are typically not considered living organisms.


Viruses are not alive?! They are like sub-programs or routines in a computer. Rogue programs we call viruses for this reason. Just like in a computer these viruses disrupt, commandeer or otherwise shunt the life processes of the host for its own purposes. Yet since it is dead, it has no purpose. It is basically introducing chaos into an ordered and lawful organization.

Sound familiar? I could go further, but I'll stop there. It should cause pause to think...

Qualifications to be considered "Life":
1) Can reproduce
2) Responds to stimulus

Viruses do not respond to any type of stimuli. Creepy. ;)

[DeDukshyn]

You can sue for any adverse drug reactions at any time. At least in the US.

Vaccines are "special" ... ;)

http://blogs.findlaw.com/decided/2011/02/cant-sue-drug-companies-for-vaccine-defects-rules-supreme-court.html





Can't Sue Drug Companies for Vaccine Defects Rules Supreme Court

[East Sun]

Well, there's something radically wrong with that 'law'.

Is it possible for "the people" of a country at large to sue the Government for damages caused to them or the damages caused by an agency of that Government that oversees large companies.

If any lawyers can answer that question I would really appreciate hearing your take on this subject. Or anyone else who knows about what the law is regarding this.

[happyexpat]

You can always sue under equity or common law. People just don't know how to do it. The people who were willing to vaccinate in the first place aren't usually awake enough to realise there are systems of law completely outside of statutes, codes, rules, regulations and bogus case law based off of them.

Edited to add: The other issue is often people are in denial that the vaccine actually caused the injuries. Doctors and parents alike. It can be just too difficult for the human brain to wrap itself around the fact they deliberately chose to do this to their own patient / child.

[heyokah]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vPudmvzx3I

Here's an article from the National Vaccine Information Center.

No Pharma Liability? No Vaccine Mandates.
by Barbara Loe Fisher

On February 22, 2011 the U.S. Supreme Court shielded drug companies from all liability for harm caused by vaccines mandated by government when companies could have made a safer vaccine.

From now on, drug companies selling vaccines in America will not be held accountable by a jury of our peers in a court of law if those vaccines brain damage us but could have been made less toxic.

If you get paralyzed by a flu shot or your child has a serious reaction to a vaccine required for school and becomes learning disabled, epileptic, autistic, asthmatic, diabetic or mentally retarded, you are on your own.

From now on – unless we stand up and draw the line on vaccine mandates - the government can legally use police powers to force every American to get hundreds of vaccinations or be punished while those, who are hurt by vaccination, can be more easily swept under the rug and left to fend for themselves.

Big Pharma Blackmailed Congress in 1982

To understand how this happened, we have to turn the clock back to 1982. That is when four big drug companies (Merck, Wyeth, Lederle, Connaught) blackmailed Congress by threatening to stop selling vaccines in America unless a law was passed giving them complete immunity from prosecution.

The pharmaceutical industry knew they were in big trouble because the old, crude whooping cough vaccine in the DPT shot was causing brain inflammation and death in many children; the live oral polio vaccine was crippling children and adults with vaccine strain polio; and Americans were filing lawsuits to hold drug companies responsible for the safety of their products.

Supreme Court Allows Seat Belt Injury Lawsuits

On February 23, 2011, one day after the Supreme Court blocked lawsuits against drug companies for failing to make vaccines safer, they cleared the way for lawsuits against car manufacturers for failing to make seat belts safer.

Civil Liability Is A Consumer Protection

Civil liability is a consumer protection. In the past, civil liability has protected us from wealthy tobacco corporations selling cigarettes that were once endorsed by doctors and the U.S. government. Civil liability has protected us from defective cars and toys and food and drugs that have passed federal licensing and safety standards.
Civil liability put pressure on drug companies to develop and license a less toxic pertussis vaccine in 1996. Civil liability put pressure on federal health agencies to replace use of a contaminated, neurotoxic polio vaccine that can paralyze people with one that cannot.
Parents in 1980’s Opposed Total Liability Shield

Thirty years ago the wealthiest and most powerful industry lobbying on Capitol Hill and in state legislatures – the multi-billion dollar pharmaceutical industry - tried very hard to get total liability protection for every vaccine that government regulates, recommends and mandates.

The only difference is that three decades ago, government officials were ordering doctors to give children 23 doses of 7 vaccines and, today, that direct order is up to 70 doses of 16 vaccines.

The parent co-founders of the National Vaccine Information Center worked with Congress back in the early 1980’s and we refused to support any legislation that would legally let the pharmaceutical industry completely off the hook.

1986 Law: Pharma Liability Was The Safety Net

Parents successfully argued that, if Congress was going to give drug companies partial liability protection through the creation of a federal vaccine injury compensation alternative to a lawsuit, then language had to be written into the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986 that protected a citizen’s right to sue drug companies when federal compensation was denied, or the company had the technological ability to make a vaccine less toxic but refused to do it.

Continued civil liability was the safety net for American consumers in that law. Continued civil liability was the leverage that gave some financial incentive for drug companies to make vaccines safer and gave some political incentive for government officials to award federal compensation to the vaccine injured.

Supreme Court Wrote Pharma A Blank Check

Now, six activist Supreme Court judges have ripped the liability safety net from the U.S. mass vaccination system and written Big Pharma a blank check by deliberately ignoring the language and legislative history of the 1986 Vaccine Injury Act. Only Justices Sotomayor and Ginsburg, in an accurate and brilliant dissenting opinion, stood up for the people.

Every American Pays Surcharge on Every Vaccination

Now it will be much easier for employees in government health agencies and the U.S. Department of Justice and the Vaccine Court to deny vaccine victims federal compensation, which 308 million Americans pay for through a surcharge on each one of the annual flu shots and the dozens of doses of vaccines public health officials say we all should get.

There is $3 billion dollars waiting to be awarded in the Vaccine Injury Trust Fund, which has already been raided by federal agencies dragging vaccine victims through years of litigation and looking for ways to deny vaccine risks.

130 vaccinations from birth to death

The Supreme Court has now given Pharma and evangelistic doctors a green light to lobby legislators to require every American, who lives to be 78 years old, to get more than 130 doses of government recommended vaccines starting on the day of birth through the last year of life.

Hundreds of New Vaccines In Development

That does not include use of any of the hundreds of new vaccines now being developed by drug companies with government approval that will be required in the future - whether those vaccines are necessary or not; whether the vaccines work or not; whether the vaccines are dangerous or not and whether the people want to use the vaccines or not.

This is not public health. This is exploitation of a captive people by a pharmaceutical industry seeking unlimited profits and by doctors in positions of authority, who have never seen a vaccine they did not want to mandate.

It is a drug company stockholder’s dream, a health care consumer’s worst nightmare and a prescription for tyranny.

Americans Forced to Get More Vaccines Than Anyone in World

Americans are required by law to use more vaccines than any other nation in the world. In no other country - not in Canada, the United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Germany, Japan or in any other country are citizens subjected to mandatory use of dozens of doses of vaccines under the threat of being denied a public education and health insurance and employment.

There is no other word for this but tyranny.

Read further: http://www.nvic.org/NVIC-Vaccine-News/March-2011/No-Pharma-Liability--No-Vaccine-Mandates-.aspx

[DeDukshyn]

Thanks for that Heyoka.

It is wrong on every level. Does this anger us? Then let's do something about it and start with educating people about this law, and let them consider all the reasons why the vaccine makers want to hide from the damages their products cause while your government forces them down your throat.