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Maia Gabrial
16th March 2015, 00:06
I found this interesting article on RT that shows just how men-of-no-honor operate when they want to manipulate the public with lies. They discovered that Russia won't take it lying down either....

To view the whole article on RT go to this link: http://rt.com/news/200071-putin-misquotations-barroso-sikorski/


Malice behind Putin misquotations? Russia to respond with full disclosure

It’s open season for Western media to bend the rules in their depiction of Russia. And with a little help from Western officials, they can quote President Putin speaking pretty aggressively – even when he actually said nothing of the kind.

In recent months, there have been two notable occasions when Vladimir Putin was misquoted. The first came when he apparently put on his conqueror’s hat while speaking about Ukraine. In September, La Repubblica newspaper reported the Putin had told then-European Commission president, Jose Manual Barroso, that he “could take Kiev in weeks.” The alleged bragging was revealed by the European official to a council meeting, but after Moscow said it would publish the transcript of the entire conversation, the EU admitted that the words were taken out of context.

READ: EU admits Putin’s comment on ‘storming Kiev’ taken out of context

An arguably more scandalous incident was sparked by former Polish Foreign Minister Radoslaw Sikorski, who told Politico magazine that he overheard Putin suggesting to Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk in 2008 that Ukraine be divided between the two nations. The official backpedalled on the accusations after a backlash both from Russia and at home, admitting that he never heard Putin actually voicing the Hitleresque plan. He also admitted that Putin and Tusk didn’t actually meet at the time the conversation was supposed to have taken place.

READ: Sikorski U-turn: Polish ex-FM backtracks on scandalous 'divide Ukraine' claim

Moscow suspects that both incidents may be part of a slander campaign against Russia.

“I have no doubt that the entire situation with pumping up passions and anti-Russian feelings among the Western public is well-coordinated,” Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov told the LifeNews channel.

“Was there malice in the actions of some of our Western colleagues, who started interpreting the content of confidential conversations in a way that turned interpretation into misinterpretation? Or have some folks simply decided to ride before the hounds or demonstrate their full loyalty to the campaign unfolding in Europe with a lot of input from their transatlantic allies?” the minister wondered.

READ: Russia ready to recognize Ukraine parliament election - Lavrov

Moscow will respond to similar incidents in the future in the way it tackled the Barroso disclosure.

“I believe we found the best antivenom – we at once state that we are ready to publish a full transcript of the conversation as was the case with Barroso and some others,” Lavrov said.

“We have nothing to hide. Yes, some things are confidential. But on our part we never touch upon things meddling in someone’s internal affairs,” he added. “We are being philosophical on the issue.”
The rebuke from the Russian minister comes days after a key speech by President Putin, who has accused the US of destabilizing the global political system through selfish and hypocritical policies after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Lavrov himself was the subject of a spectacular misquotation back in 2008, when Russia responded to Georgia’s attack on South Ossetia and the killing of Russian peacekeepers stationed in the region.

At the time, the British newspaper, The Telegraph, reported that Lavrov used foul language in a telephone conversation with his British counterpart at the time, David Miliband, rhetorically asking the much-younger official: “Who are you to f****g lecture me?” The verbal abuse was denied by both the Foreign Office and the Russian Foreign Ministry.

lucidity
16th March 2015, 04:05
Hi Siblings,

There's so much evidence of this, especially since the Ukrainian crisis,
It's truly staggering. I have repeatedly found myself concluding: You can't believe the MSM.
I only watch the alternative news media now, at least on these media there is scrutiny and
consideration about news stories. You're more likely to see events from multiple angles.
And past lies are reported, contradictions and hypocrisies are revealed.
For me at least, part of the 'awakening' is realising that authorities can not be trusted with
the truth, or their own authority.

In my humble opinion, we need to invent some new social structures that will forbid
the aggregation of power into 'institutions' or 'authorities'. An analogy of this
can be found in the invention of bitcoin. The infrastructure around bitcoin makes it
so that everyone that participates in the system benefits... 'miners' get to issue
the currency and hence benefit, users of the system get free 'accounts'
(which is open to all, irrespective of credit history or age, gender, race, religion..etc)
but there is no central authority, no central bank. So no one can abuse
the supply of the currency for their own political or financial interests.

If someone could 'invent' a form of social structure that had these features
then perhaps we could eliminate flagrant lies and abuse of power.... by the powerful.

I guess it might look something like a cooperative. With everyone in the 'coop'
having equal access to all information in the 'coop' (so complete transparency)
and everyone has equal power to decide (perhaps vote on) strategic policy....
including salary levels ... profit distribution etc.

be happy

lucidity :-)

kemo
16th March 2015, 07:29
He wasn't misquoted when he said there were no Russian troops in Crimea because I saw the press conference on TV. He was lying through his teeth. There is a difference. Mainstream media is routinely trashed on PA but RT is an organisation which is a well funded mouthpiece for the Kremlin - we know this - and yet what they put out is accepted without question it seems. Funny that.

yelik
16th March 2015, 09:47
There are games being played out by both sides but in my opinion Russia / Putin have prevented war in Ukraine and are starting to challenge the corruption and manipulation of the western Illuminati / Cabal. Deception and disinformation is rife and getting worse, go back to basics; the perpetrators do not change and we all know who they are !

Maia Gabrial
16th March 2015, 13:47
He wasn't misquoted when he said there were no Russian troops in Crimea because I saw the press conference on TV. He was lying through his teeth. There is a difference. Mainstream media is routinely trashed on PA but RT is an organisation which is a well funded mouthpiece for the Kremlin - we know this - and yet what they put out is accepted without question it seems. Funny that.

What we know is that all of the stations are controlled medias, kemo. We have to go outside of it to alternative sources to get some truth. Ask yourself why are they trying to shutdown RT now...? It tells us what our medias aren't.

Was he really lying through his teeth? Did lamestream tell you this? Did you also know that 75% of Crimea voted to annex back into Russia?

Putin has an 88% approval rating among people. I wonder if that includes Americans and Europe, or just in Russia? He's viewed as a strong honorable man by many people. Can't say that about Obama who has lied through HIS teeth and has broken every campaign promise he made to Americans. And is continuing to destroy our country.

I'm not saying Putin's a completely good guy, but we need him to stand up to the corruption our own govt poses to the world and us. And he's done great so far. He has my admiration so far.

There was a funny thread on GLP about Obama missing now. The nastiest comments came from Americans. We're all sick of him and what his administration has done to us. We don't have to see it on lamestream because they're just going to lie about it anyway. We're seeing it with our own eyes and living it....