Learning to accept unconditional love as logically always good- and truthful enough (the greatest thing we ever did!)

[WhiteLove]

On our spiritual journey, how can we grow positively if we keep on logically invalidating stuff that unconditional love does not? How can we?

The process of learning to accept unconditional love as logically always good and truthful enough, is about going within and finding old ideas, beliefs and definitions that logically invalidate what unconditional love really does not. A typical example of this would be to love two persons both at the same time, especially if one of those persons are married with kids - what a total violation of all logical rules that would be. But is it in violation to unconditional love? The answer is simple, powerful and clear: No. So my point is this. That should be good enough, a simple enough logical idea. And I think that if we start go within and turn around all of these logical ideas and definitions that on a daily basis limit our capacity of loving, we will quickly grow into becoming very loving, peaceful and passionate spirits.

Let's play logically with the idea that one of those persons you love unconditionally, does not want you to love that other person also and he/she asks you not to. Then it would be an unconditional love violation not to love that person like that, but that in turn creates a very complex scenario because that unconditional love is then suddenly due to the other person's lack of unconditional love, really rooted in conditional love at that point, meaning that the lack of unconditional love by person A towards person B in turn blocks unconditional love by person B to person C. What this does is to exclude unconditional love from the overall equation. Love could have flown freely, limitlessly between all three persons, but it got stuck in a logical constraint that is out of alignment with unconditional love. In other words. Conditional love leads to the exclusion of unconditional love within the overall equation. But unconditional love does not lead to any exclusions within the overall equation and that is why it is truly unconditional.

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On our spiritual journey, how can we grow positively if we keep on logically invalidating stuff that unconditional love does not? How can we?

The process of learning to accept unconditional love as logically always good and truthful enough, is about going within and finding old ideas, beliefs and definitions that logically invalidate what unconditional love really does not. A typical example of this would be to love two persons both at the same time, especially if one of those persons are married with kids - what a total violation of all logical rules that would be. But is it in violation to unconditional love? The answer is simple, powerful and clear: No. So my point is this. That should be good enough, a simple enough logical idea. And I think that if we start go within and turn around all of these logical ideas and definitions that on a daily basis limit our capacity of loving, we will quickly grow into becoming very loving, peaceful and passionate spirits.

remember always,
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matthew 10:16

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[WhiteLove]

On our spiritual journey, how can we grow positively if we keep on logically invalidating stuff that unconditional love does not? How can we?

The process of learning to accept unconditional love as logically always good and truthful enough, is about going within and finding old ideas, beliefs and definitions that logically invalidate what unconditional love really does not. A typical example of this would be to love two persons both at the same time, especially if one of those persons are married with kids - what a total violation of all logical rules that would be. But is it in violation to unconditional love? The answer is simple, powerful and clear: No. So my point is this. That should be good enough, a simple enough logical idea. And I think that if we start go within and turn around all of these logical ideas and definitions that on a daily basis limit our capacity of loving, we will quickly grow into becoming very loving, peaceful and passionate spirits.

remember always,
Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. Matthew 10:16

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Interesting, this is a highly intelligent reference point to this topic, thanks!

[Flash]

On our spiritual journey, how can we grow positively if we keep on logically invalidating stuff that unconditional love does not? How can we?

The process of learning to accept unconditional love as logically always good and truthful enough, is about going within and finding old ideas, beliefs and definitions that logically invalidate what unconditional love really does not. A typical example of this would be to love two persons both at the same time, especially if one of those persons are married with kids - what a total violation of all logical rules that would be. But is it in violation to unconditional love? The answer is simple, powerful and clear: No. So my point is this. That should be good enough, a simple enough logical idea. And I think that if we start go within and turn around all of these logical ideas and definitions that on a daily basis limit our capacity of loving, we will quickly grow into becoming very loving, peaceful and passionate spirits.

Let's play logically with the idea that one of those persons you love unconditionally, does not want you to love that other person also and he/she asks you not to. Then it would be an unconditional love violation not to love that person like that, but that in turn creates a very complex scenario because that unconditional love is then suddenly due to the other person's lack of unconditional love, really rooted in conditional love at that point, meaning that the lack of unconditional love by person A towards person B in turn blocks unconditional love by person B to person C. What this does is to exclude unconditional love from the overall equation. Love could have flown freely, limitlessly between all three persons, but it got stuck in a logical constraint that is out of alignment with unconditional love. In other words. Conditional love leads to the exclusion of unconditional love within the overall equation. But unconditional love does not lead to any exclusions within the overall equation and that is why it is truly unconditional.

your description of unconditional love seems to me to be rather a description of conditional love.

If unconditional love get stuck in constraints, it is not unconditional love, it is conditional love, based on constraints.

And the other point which makes me think that your definition of uconditional love is in fact a definition for conditional love, all of what you wrote seems about conditional love.

Why? Unconditional love is not only unconditional, without constraints, it is also pertaining to nobody but going through everybody. It just flows through you, you do not love, IT loves. One's ego is out of the picture. When this happens, nobody feels threatened, threats thoughts/feelings do not even arise in them, but everybody feels the love.

If someone feels threatened because of love, if anyone does, in any ways, it is most probably because we are in the presence of conditional love, which is ego and emotions based, somewhat somewhere possessive.

An example would be to show YOUR (conditional/possesive word) love for someone by having to be demonstrative about it, jumping around and hugging for example. And you not understanding how come someone could not see it is genuine "unconditional love", in YOUR views. Do you see how ego based this would be?

Unconditional love is very often silent, does not need to be demonstrated, yet, when it is, it feels fine too because there is zero possessiveness, therefore nobody feels anything wrong, and it does not evoke or awaken jealousy.

Unconditional love, from the emitter, is never based on personal needs, will or desire. It is based on letting it flow through your being, it is nature/life expression flowing through, period. Put a desire or a will or a need into it and you get conditional love.

Loving a man and a then loving a second one who is married is a targetted love, based on desire it seems in this case. This is by definition not unconditional love but conditional love. If it were unconditional, married or not would make no difference, and there would be not threat felt from and by anyone, because it is desireless, needs less, no power over the other at all. Your example of unconditional love sucks in my views :p.

Unconditional love cannot be excluded by conditional love, because it is desireless, needs less, total absence of power struggle. there is no exclusion, unconditonal love IS at another level. Throwing ones' emotions on someone though wanting the recipient to feel that love is not unconditional love.

In fact, what I see and feel is very difficult to express in words. I think I do not make sense lollllllllllllll. But I do feel what I am trying to say.

You may not have children it seems hey, where you have to give sleepless nights, lots of money, to have them throw up on you when it is not expected if they are Young and spit at when they are teenagers, yet thinking of their greatest welfare and the development of their best potential, whatever they will ever think about you, whatever their reaction will be, and take whatever measures you have to take in a given situation, without even having a glimpse at your personal needs and welfare, this is nearer unconditional love in action.

Loves flows through, it is nature, life, the universes flowing through you, and your/my job is just not to block it, it is simply to let it flow.

And be Wise and smart at the same time for the action to take to apply your love, and do not think of its qualities cause unconditional love makes you always harmless to others and to nature.

[Inaiá]

Great topic, White Love.

Excellent perception, Flash.

You know, something i feel as necessary to surrender myself to love is to discard the fear/idea of love as being a weakness. As "If you are a good person, you will be abused in this world". Spiritual childhood? Yes.

So, people, do you feel/know that love, indeed, is the most powerful thing, and the solution to everything?

Maybe we should start to ask what love is, and what it is not.

Do we fear it 'cause we don't know it, love?

What keep us from loving? I would say absence of knowledge and faith.

Maybe, living in love, is a matter thoughts, experimentations, feelings and faith. Faith in a specific nature of life.

[araucaria]

In fact, what I see and feel is very difficult to express in words. I think I do not make sense lollllllllllllll.
Flash, this bit is rubbish, the rest makes perfect sense: beautiful post!