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Jayren
25th March 2015, 18:25
Inner Earth Dracos And The False Light Campaign

In5D March 25, 2015 Spiritual Awakening

Inner Earth Dracos And The False Light Campaign in5d.com

by Michelle Walling, CHLC
Staff writer, In5D.com

We know about the false light in the afterlife that has magnetically pulled our soul into the reincarnation trap. Now we are uncovering the campaign here on Earth that has kept us under a spell lifetime after lifetime so that we can finally break free of the false light matrix.

How many “spiritual teachers” are you still listening to that mention one or more of these names?

Master Hilarion
Order of Melchizedek
Archangel Michael, or any of the Archangels
Jesus
Adama
Lord Metatron
Thoth
Galactic Federation of Light
There have been books, channelings, and articles written to promote these names and many more in the spiritual and metaphysical groups. The messages seem to be filled with peace and love and the very best interests of humanity. In truth, these are smoke and mirror, false light beings that have their minions living in the inner Earth. They are posers, reflectors of light, and shapeshifters. They are the masters of deception and are metaphorically, the wizards behind the curtain.

These are the Dracos, Reptilians, Greys, and other beings that have merged with a branch of the “snake family”. Their goal was to take over planet Earth and trap the souls that were here for an indefinite period of time. They hide underground because they are not able to live in a high oxygen environment. Some of them took on human bodies and some of them are astral beings that feed off of the slave souls trapped in human bodies. They are trying to terra-form the planet and reduce the human population so that they can live on the surface. Currently only the greys that have grey colored spacesuits, those that have put themselves into a human body, and shapeshifters can exist on the surface.

There are many entrances to the inner earth across the planet, including Mount Shasta, Sedona, and the North pole. They use allegories, smoke and mirrors, and black magic in order to present themselves and their teachings to us, because they do not have the ability to create for themselves. They are copy cats and tricksters and are very good at doing so.

Their gig was to get people to move to the fifth dimensional New Earth on December 21st of 2012 with the use of CERN. They were almost successful in creating a stargate or black hole that would have sucked our consciousness into the 4th and 5th astral dimension. They have a whole team of Illuminati and scientists under their control to operate this technology, but after getting it to 75% power it broke down and had to be aborted.

If they would have been successful in 2012, we would have been moved through the dimensions in our light bodies, as our physical bodies would have been too dense. We would have been led to co-create a new way of living in the astral realms which are tied to the fifth dimension, under the rule of the Dracos posing as loving light beings like Archangel Michael, for example.

The New Age agenda was the biggest tool to harvest and mark those souls who were ready to go to their promised astral realm creation. Since they had so many people dreaming of this New Earth, I wouldn’t doubt it exists because a small number of human beings can create whatever they put their intention to. But the way they were going to get us there tells you that it wasn’t in humanity’s best interest, and they would have hijacked that creation for their own wicked use.

I followed a group several years ago who said that only those who wake up and do the work to heal their body would one day “soon” get a light body in preparation for the shift to the fifth dimension, (only with the light body could you move into the fifth dimension). The rest of the people on Earth that were not successful would go somewhere else where they could continue their earth lessons. We were not to worry about those left behind because they were all on their own level of advancement. Until the time came to make the shift, those of us that were “special” and had healed our bodies would hold seminars in order to heal the masses of people who wanted to be healed. There would be a cost for these seminars, and this is how we would make a living and be able to travel around the world healing people.

THAT was the part that allowed me to always question in the back of my mind, “Why would people have to pay to be healed?” When we got to the fifth dimension, we would be able to manifest anything we needed from the background energy, so why have the money aspect? It was eerily similar to the stories of Atlantis with the healing temples. The lore tells of magical healing chambers and how everyone was able to have a young, beautiful body. What they did not tell us is that only those that could pay received the healing, and part of that healing included sex slaves that helped one to raise their kundalini so that it could be harvested for energy.

There are many spiritual gurus that have been tricked by the false light beings. They were tricked in past lifetimes and are given tidbits of information about those lives that paint a very different picture than it really was. There may be a lot of truth that is twisted and they may have even been told the opposite of what really happened. They used their ego to make them feel special and these teachings are still being carried out like a broken record.

CERN was created to open the stargate to let the malevolent Dracos, Reptilians, and Greys out and to let in more negative beings from the astral realms. The third dimension had once been cut off from the lower and higher dimensions in a quarantine, and CERN would open the gates once more. Their last chance effort with CERN is occurring right now, and they will not be successful.

They did not expect people like Mark Passio, Wes Penre, Jordan Maxwell, Cameron Day, and many more to lead in uncovering the truth of the New Age Deception and the false light. They did not expect that because of the raise in frequency of the planet in concert with the cosmic solar energy that has been helping to raise the consciousness in humans. More people are breaking free of the hypnotic trance at an exponential rate! As more people began to wake up, they increased the chemtrail and HAARP agenda, and began extreme government lockdown plans and drills. World War 3 and the entire economic collapse have been on the very edge for a long time. It seems like it just isn’t possible that their programs could continue to run, and it feels like something could explode at any moment.

Hopefully it will not get that bad on the planet before a huge shift in consciousness changes the past and the future. In this now moment so many of us are using our own magic of true Source creation whether we realize it or not. We are powerful co-creators that have the ability to take over the control of our own bodies and change everything that has happened to us in the past, which will change the outcome of the future.

A few examples of the New Age doctrines that are keeping the false light doctrine fires burning are:

Love everyone and forgive everyone, for we are all one, and
Atlantis was a magical time and we all lived in peace and love.
The false light agenda has been to return to the times of Atlantis where we would have the powers and abilities we did back then, and more. Both of these doctrines are truth twisted into tricks. While we are all fractals of our Source, some chose to be positive and to stay connected to Source. Others stretched free will and chose to disconnect from Source and need to feed off of others in order to survive. If we forgave the Dracos groups for trapping our souls, enslaving us, and using us as Source energy, then they would not have to return to Source or become space dust for the crimes against humanity. If we agreed to return to the time of Atlantis, we would be allowing for another cycle to be repeated within their matrix illusion. So there is always a twist to the truth involved in the false light teachings.

The truth is that our consciousness is trapped within a body that has been under full control of the archontic negative polarity beings that needed our energy as a food source. We have been under a spell repeating cycles upon cycles. Those who had the ability to “channel the gods” in other lifetimes have remembered their “gifts” and have received channelings loud and clear from false light beings. These messages are still being given today with various people that really are good people but they are under a spell of deceit. Think about this- why would the Illuminati allow such information to be purchased at a major bookstore or be spread around the internet freely, unless it was in line with their bosses’ overall plan?

Innately, we sense the truth part of these teachings but then are led astray by agreeing to something that is going to keep us trapped. Life on this planet has become all about survival, which leads us to want to have a healed body and to live on a new magical planet where we can have anything we want. We have free will to choose and they have twisted things time and time again to get us to choose to be imprisoned. It is up to us to choose our freedom from false light teachings and we have reached a good number of people who are realizing this.

Once we accomplish this in this lifetime, the afterlife trap will no longer exist.

Here is the most confusing thing of all. One of our possible outcomes could really have been to naturally increase our vibrations and to shift to a New Earth. When this was seen with the Draco/Illuminati’s Looking Glass Technology, time travel and timeline shifts were used to insert the deception and confusion that would hijack this experience. The original plan of shifting out of their reach still could be a possibility, or maybe we will create something even better than that. The thing to realize is that everything has been hijacked and turned upside down. The main goal is to confuse us and keep up from making an informed choice as to what we want the future of humanity to be. Soon the whole truth will be known and this is the only way to allow for a free willed choice to be made.

There is a saying “as above, so below”. If you consider us to be below, then there must really be something going on above, because this world is caught in an extreme polarity. The fight for the Earth and humanity’s freedom is happening “out there” as well. We are at the breaking point that will move us into a new reality; just not the way the archons wanted to harvest us. While we may complain that nothing is happening, the truth is that most of the things the negative beings had planned for us have not happened! Not only that, but we are seeing their desperation and acceleration of programs to ramp up for the next event that they have planned, which probably won’t happen either.

The more that break free, the less their technology is working. The more that say no to their domination over us, they less control they have over humanity as a whole. The more the planet raises her frequency, the less some people are susceptible to their tricks. We are in a transition period of the shifting of control on the planet based on the cosmic war above and within our bodies.

It may be time to unlearn everything you know. Sometimes it may feel like you are losing your mind, but you are really losing the programming that has been controlling your mind lifetime after lifetime. Mother Earth is fighting the battle with us and we are gaining the ability to discern the truth more and more each day.

grannyfranny100
25th March 2015, 19:03
Jayren, very nicely organized, extremely helpful to newbies, and refreshing to oldsters such as me. I appreciate your viewpoint and all the time it took to compose this thread. We all have more to learn and thank you for sharing.

huyi82
25th March 2015, 19:17
Good post tc, the sooner we get out of this matrix trap the better for all of us.

They also have soul traps on the moon, not just in inner earth.

observer
25th March 2015, 20:46
At last....

There are a few among us who finely get it. I've been attempting to alert the forum to these possibilities since I first joined back in March of '10.

Most of the time I get the, "we all create our own reality by the energies we focus on" mantra, or the one where, "there is a bright new dawn, just over the horizon" - that one is really programed-in.

Thanks Jayren, for starting this thread....

yelik
25th March 2015, 21:15
Thanks, good arguments and information.
We have been deceived and lied to by advanced clever beings I do not think the world can continue on its current course for much longer.

As the lid starts to come off and these monumental lies are exposed I think we are in for some rough times as the wounded beast attempts all tricks in the book to maintain the secrets and control

hangel
26th March 2015, 00:18
much of this is also George Kavassilas' work.
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synthetic light at its best includes three components
kundalini
chakra system
pineal gland

Flash
26th March 2015, 02:48
Love everyone and forgive everyone, for we are all one, and
Atlantis was a magical time and we all lived in peace and love.
The false light agenda has been to return to the times of Atlantis where we would have the powers and abilities we did back then, and more. Both of these doctrines are truth twisted into tricks. While we are all fractals of our Source, some chose to be positive and to stay connected to Source. Others stretched free will and chose to disconnect from Source and need to feed off of others in order to survive. If we forgave the Dracos groups for trapping our souls, enslaving us, and using us as Source energy, then they would not have to return to Source or become space dust for the crimes against humanity. If we agreed to return to the time of Atlantis, we would be allowing for another cycle to be repeated within their matrix illusion. So there is always a twist to the truth involved in the false light teachings.


What if the plan was not to have us return to the time of Atlantis, what if the plan was to make sure that a vast majority of us remains in the Atlantis emoting/creating times?

What if in fact we never left Atlantis? still being of the same emoting/little thinking/emotion based behaving?

Atlantis, the high emotionality, the lack of clear mental / critical thinking processes! The art of the exquisite emotions with all it entails. It seems to me that the vast majority are still in Atlantis form of emoting / thinking (look at all the reality shows). It is being cultivated, because we feed others through our unmastered human mass emotions.

Zionbrion
26th March 2015, 05:13
While all of this resonates with me strongly I cannot help but wonder, Where does the author of a piece like this get their information from? It almost feels like it is also channeled.

TrumanCash
26th March 2015, 05:20
I enjoyed the article very much and could personally relate to parts of it very well from my own past life recollections.

When I was first captured by the Mantids (as a free being) and forced into a body about 12, 400 years ago, they dropped me and my new body off in Atlantis where I was sacrificed in a temple on a stone slab in a blood-letting ritual. What a fun place! Can't wait to visit there again!

I cover some of the information in the article (like the going to the light reincarnation trap) in my second book, THE EYE OF RA, which can be downloaded free of charge from Avalon (links below).

Anyway, thanks, Jayren, for posting the article and the In5D.com website which I had never seen before.

TLC

raregem
26th March 2015, 05:37
Nicely written, great reminder and succinct. In a nutshell.
My gratitude to you, Jayren.

betoobig
26th March 2015, 10:55
Just great. Let´s keep it up and start calling them TPUB (the powers that used to be)...
...love
Juan

Ultima Thule
26th March 2015, 14:42
Can you provide evidence or sources for the idea of reincarnation trap-idea? It is starting to - for me anyway - to sound just like any other new age-meme. If one were cynical this idea might be the move of a counter-intelligence working against people realizing that they have responsibility of their actions over lifetimes and they are eternal souls that develope, and thus "waking up". What I just iterated is possibly just another meme, can you (the op) point out exactly what makes your perspective more plausible to you than what I just iterated (regarding reincarnation)?


UT

observer
26th March 2015, 15:54
Can you provide evidence or sources for the idea of reincarnation trap-idea? It is starting to - for me anyway - to sound just like any other new age-meme. If one were cynical this idea might be the move of a counter-intelligence working against people realizing that they have responsibility of their actions over lifetimes and they are eternal souls that develope, and thus "waking up". What I just iterated is possibly just another meme, can you (the op) point out exactly what makes your perspective more plausible to you than what I just iterated (regarding reincarnation)?


UT

UT, I wish is was that simple, i.e. "evidence or sources".

The idea of reincarnation being a "feeding operation", or a "soul trap" is not very well received among folks promoting most of the popular ideologies.

I first had the epiphany regarding such in the late eighties.

I spent most of my adult life subscribing to a long list of "channeled sources". By "channeled sources", I am referring to every form of telepathically implanted thoughts, such as, prophecy, seers, oracles, channelers, remote viewers, or any other title one might apply to the phenomenon.

One day, in an instant of revelation, I came to the realization that most channeled material was a regurgitation of the same material, expressed in many different ways. If one looks through the properly "colored glasses", one can see these similar messages throughout all forms of theology.

I mentioned two in comment #4 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81010-The-False-light-campaign-and-the-inner-Earth-Dracos&p=946339&viewfull=1#post946339), "we all create our own reality by the energies we focus on", and "there is a bright new dawn, just over the horizon". These are telepathically implanted mantras, designed to make the conscious being, "just go back to sleep"; "everything will be fine".

When, in fact, as we all are well aware, "everything is not fine".

These telepathically implanted messages have been part of the foundations of civilization since the Dawn of Man, a period of time throughout which the promise has been continuous, yet, the outcome never quite arrives.

If you want some sort of proof, search term Gnostic Christians, or The Cathar, or The Siege of Ma'arra. Even in our modern times there is no explanation for how one's thoughts could cause a Palestinian woman to be found sitting in the rubble of her bombed-out home, holding the body of her lifeless child. Yet we are told our thoughts create our reality, and most of us go babbling-off to the "big game" on Sunday, thinking this is exactly what caused all these atrocities throughout history.

The proof you seek is in your ability to critically think, and your skill in ignoring all the programing you have endured. You must first shatter the paradigm that is the conscious Ultima Thule and be willing to take a very long journey into self exploration.


A few hints would be to examine what is really happening on the Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBcAohvVHeU).
Realizing that Humanity has been lied to since the Dawn of Man is a major step in the discovery process.
Listen to what John Lear says about "containers" and towers on the Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTRFhrAr8us).
Read some of Wes Penre's work (http://wespenre.com/).
The OP of this thread was taken from an excellent source of information. Here's another informative page (http://in5d.com/archons-and-archangels/)from that website.
[add] Some of the links were modified, and another removed pending further investigation. Within my library, I have hundreds of hours of research, but to link them all in this comment would be too excessive. Try following my comments through the forum and you will discover many.


Just a few suggestions, but the journey is motivated by your own desire to learn. Once you take a first step on the path, the trail will become obvious.

huyi82
26th March 2015, 22:18
thanks for the video hangel, i watched all of it and it's very complex and diverse when it comes to our universe and all other universes, lots of good info in there.

Jayren
26th March 2015, 23:20
Can you provide evidence or sources for the idea of reincarnation trap-idea? It is starting to - for me anyway - to sound just like any other new age-meme. If one were cynical this idea might be the move of a counter-intelligence working against people realizing that they have responsibility of their actions over lifetimes and they are eternal souls that develope, and thus "waking up". What I just iterated is possibly just another meme, can you (the op) point out exactly what makes your perspective more plausible to you than what I just iterated (regarding reincarnation)?


UT

UT, I wish is was that simple, i.e. "evidence or sources".

The idea of reincarnation being a "feeding operation", or a "soul trap" is not very well received among folks promoting most of the popular ideologies.

I first had the epiphany regarding such in the late eighties.

I spent most of my adult life subscribing to a long list of "channeled sources". By "channeled sources", I am referring to every form of telepathically implanted thoughts, such as, prophecy, seers, oracles, channelers, remote viewers, or any other title one might apply to the phenomenon.

One day, in an instant of revelation, I came to the realization that most channeled material was a regurgitation of the same material, expressed in many different ways. If one looks through the properly "colored glasses", one can see these similar messages throughout all forms of theology.

I mentioned two in comment #4 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81010-The-False-light-campaign-and-the-inner-Earth-Dracos&p=946339&viewfull=1#post946339), "we all create our own reality by the energies we focus on", and "there is a bright new dawn, just over the horizon". These are telepathically implanted mantras, designed to make the conscious being, "just go back to sleep"; "everything will be fine".

When, in fact, as we all are well aware, "everything is not fine".

These telepathically implanted messages have been part of the foundations of civilization since the Dawn of Man, a period of time throughout which the promise has been continuous, yet, the outcome never quite arrives.

If you want some sort of proof, search term Gnostic Christians, or The Cathar, or The Siege of Ma'arra. Even in our modern times there is no explanation for how one's thoughts could cause a Palestinian woman to be found sitting in the rubble of her bombed-out home, holding the body of her lifeless child. Yet we are told our thoughts create our reality, and most of us go babbling-off to the "big game" on Sunday, thinking this is exactly what caused all these atrocities throughout history.

The proof you seek is in your ability to critically think, and your skill in ignoring all the programing you have endured. You must first shatter the paradigm that is the conscious Ultima Thule and be willing to take a very long journey into self exploration.


A few hints would be to examine what is really happening on the Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBcAohvVHeU).
Realizing that Humanity has been lied to since the Dawn of Man is a major step in the discovery process.
Listen to what John Lear says about "containers" and towers on the Moon (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTRFhrAr8us).
Read some of Wes Penre's work (http://wespenre.com/).
The OP of this thread was taken from an excellent source of information. Here's another informative page (http://in5d.com/archons-and-archangels/)from that website.
[add] Some of the links were modified, and another removed pending further investigation. Within my library, I have hundreds of hours of research, but to link them all in this comment would be too excessive. Try following my comments through the forum and you will discover many.


Just a few suggestions, but the journey is motivated by your own desire to learn. Once you take a first step on the path, the trail will become obvious.

Obvious it is, these elders were no different than most of the leaders you see now. If you think even farther you know that all they are are the descendants of these elders that chose to do things the wrong way and resulted in some destruction of there civilization which caused confusion. But what did they rebuild out of the ashes when they migrated to surface lands higher up?? A normal system one which limits the self and is calculated to fail someday and out of it will be what? Are natural disasters ever really natural? What is ever really natural about any disaster? Why do we keep allowing these things to occur? Can any of these things be proven maybe we don't all necessarily need proof when we can find out where the puzzle pieces go one realization at a time.

Rhah
27th March 2015, 13:07
Jayren, thank you for this post. It definitely was very helpfull and informative to read for someone relatively new to this like me.
Of course I had heard many tidbits regarding this subject from various other sources, but I never really managed to put the pieces together and get the bigger picture. But I finally have a better understanding of it now. So I thank you for that.

Though while reading this a question popped up in my head regarding this which I would really like to have answered. It's about something Simon Parkes said in his interview with Karelia for the 'The Project Avalon Interview'.
Because when he was asked what other major events he expected to occur on planet Earth that the elites would use to bring in the new world order, he mentioned something along the lines of (I can't remember the exact quote unfortunately) that their previous plans had indeed failed, but that they had till 2016 to make it happen or else they would've missed their window of opportunity.

So what I understood from that was that 2016 must then be their deadline. But where did the 2016 come from? Why specifically that year? How is the year 2016 significant in that it will be their last chance?
I had personally never heard someone make a reference to that year before regarding this subject so I was very surprised by that.

Is there anyone that could maybe clear that up for me? I would really very much appreciate that.
And of course, if this has already been covered and discussed in another thread then please redirect me to that.

Thanks again :)

betoobig
28th March 2015, 01:16
MY two cents with love

Kelly Anne
28th March 2015, 01:44
Jayren, very nicely organized, extremely helpful to newbies, and refreshing to oldsters such as me. I appreciate your viewpoint and all the time it took to compose this thread. We all have more to learn and thank you for sharing.

Yes, Thank You!

As a newbie...and not sure if I will ever feel like I will ever be anything other than a newbie...I identified with so much in your post. It answered a LOT of questions I've been struggling with.

I have waves of feeling sane and feeling like I am losing my mind....so, this is normal and not at the same time?

So nice to have the Avalon Group as support! xoxo

Gardener
28th March 2015, 02:23
Hi Rhah, and welcome to Avalon :).
In answer to why 2016 this is my current understanding and I could be wrong. Around 2003/4 a friend of mine who is interested in this subject and is also a mathametician, sat down with all and any data on 'cycles' and came up with a ball park date for major change which he called a 'phase shift' between 2015-2019.
Don't ask me to show the working, my math is no where near as good as my cooking lol. But he based it on micro and macro cycles of the Sun, the constellations (precession), cycles of time, the great year, and multiples of the great year....biblical references to numbers, eg all the 12's and the reference to the tribe of judah's army numbers and the speed of light.

Anyway this phase shift is a convergence of many cycles which normally occur one at a time starting with the sun's journey through the constellations in a year, plus we have just completed a great year 25,000 years, and two other cycles which I can't quite remember the details of, but the higher one is in the region of 300,000 years. (the long cycle or something)

Apparently the sun is just crossing the horizon of the 'great year' having completed its 12,000yr journey below the horizon (like the daily day and night), at these times everything becomes known, and revealed and much knowledge becomes available because we enter an entirely new frequency of energies. The level of these energies will make it increasingly more dificult for 'evil' and 'hierarchy' to survive and continue as they have for millennia, but as this is also a completion of a grand cycle 12 x 25,000 = 300,000 ish the effect is much greater (whatever that might be). The 'gravity' of the old order is just too heavy for them to continue for much longer, so they hurry to try to accomplish their agenda before its simply too late.

Anyway it does seem to correlate with what Simon said even though Simon was more specific.



Jayren, thank you for this post. It definitely was very helpfull and informative to read for someone relatively new to this like me.
Of course I had heard many tidbits regarding this subject from various other sources, but I never really managed to put the pieces together and get the bigger picture. But I finally have a better understanding of it now. So I thank you for that.

Though while reading this a question popped up in my head regarding this which I would really like to have answered. It's about something Simon Parkes said in his interview with Karelia for the 'The Project Avalon Interview'.
Because when he was asked what other major events he expected to occur on planet Earth that the elites would use to bring in the new world order, he mentioned something along the lines of (I can't remember the exact quote unfortunately) that their previous plans had indeed failed, but that they had till 2016 to make it happen or else they would've missed their window of opportunity.

So what I understood from that was that 2016 must then be their deadline. But where did the 2016 come from? Why specifically that year? How is the year 2016 significant in that it will be their last chance?
I had personally never heard someone make a reference to that year before regarding this subject so I was very surprised by that.

Is there anyone that could maybe clear that up for me? I would really very much appreciate that.
And of course, if this has already been covered and discussed in another thread then please redirect me to that.

Thanks again :)

Gardener
28th March 2015, 02:43
This made me smile Flash because I have often wondered if Atlantis happened yet, what if it was a possibility in the future.


Love everyone and forgive everyone, for we are all one, and
Atlantis was a magical time and we all lived in peace and love.
The false light agenda has been to return to the times of Atlantis where we would have the powers and abilities we did back then, and more. Both of these doctrines are truth twisted into tricks. While we are all fractals of our Source, some chose to be positive and to stay connected to Source. Others stretched free will and chose to disconnect from Source and need to feed off of others in order to survive. If we forgave the Dracos groups for trapping our souls, enslaving us, and using us as Source energy, then they would not have to return to Source or become space dust for the crimes against humanity. If we agreed to return to the time of Atlantis, we would be allowing for another cycle to be repeated within their matrix illusion. So there is always a twist to the truth involved in the false light teachings.


What if the plan was not to have us return to the time of Atlantis, what if the plan was to make sure that a vast majority of us remains in the Atlantis emoting/creating times?

What if in fact we never left Atlantis? still being of the same emoting/little thinking/emotion based behaving?

Atlantis, the high emotionality, the lack of clear mental / critical thinking processes! The art of the exquisite emotions with all it entails. It seems to me that the vast majority are still in Atlantis form of emoting / thinking (look at all the reality shows). It is being cultivated, because we feed others through our unmastered human mass emotions.

Ultima Thule
28th March 2015, 06:26
Observer - after reading through a lot of the material you pointed out, however - and I hope not to insult anyone - Wes Penres writings are of such enormous scope that Imo there is no real way to see them in any other way than as a story, not unlike Harry Potter.

I am sorry to say, but all I saw was a story claiming to be the story. And for the record, I by no means am entertained by channelled material - I share the opinion that 99% of it is verbal perpetual motion, Sheldan Nidle being a good example(same ole same ole, since 1994(?)... However: I see this soultrap/reincarnation trap as no more plausible than the model of reincarnating, learning lessons and the "veil of forgetfulness" being a good tool to test the player of the game - I mean what would be the point of being nice to another being if you knew that according to the "rules" that is a "point" in your favor? You do it nevermind the gain and there you have something substantial.

Well, no tunnel of light in my nde and in other ways the most real and genuine experience I've ever had into the very core of my being. I can accept very near to anything in my earthly existence being a lie, that experience - not so.
I am saying basically: if you buy into the soul trap idea, what makes you certain of that truth? What if that is another lie?

UT

observer
28th March 2015, 09:45
Please refer to Post #21 for the content of Ultima Thule's comment.
UT

Thank you UT, for the opportunity to speak, again. Allow me to start by saying, I ask no individual or lesser god for forgiveness for what I'm about to say. I speak with the Creative Force of the Universe in my heart as a zealot, overturning the tables in the holiest of holies.

After 67 years of seeking the truth, I can report to you that nothing humanity has been told, since the dawn of homo sapiens sapiens, has ever been the truth. You know nothing of this Soul Harvesting Feeding Operation because the few who have ever known realize, "there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it"

Our souls are eternal. That part of our being, men have come to know as their soul, existed eternally before it incarnated into this gross material reality, and it will exist eternally after it eventually escapes from this gross material reality, regardless of how many life cycles that may require.

I need not waste time explaining how our eternal souls are trapped here within a matrix in this gross material reality. You took the "red pill", otherwise you wouldn't be here in Avalon searching for answers.

Here I see a reference to, "the veil of forgetfulness", a meme so well defined in theologies since the Dawn of Man, and yet, another clever deception.

Visualize a child being patted on the head, and told, "relax, you won't feel a thing". Imagine now, you are not a child, nor a slave, you are an eternal soul trapped here for reasons you may not fully understand. Explain to the members how this fully evolved eternal soul needs to be shielded from any experience in the process of eternal existence.

I suggest, the only plausible explanation for this alleged "veil of forgetfulness", is that the soul-essence you grew in your former material incarnation was consumed by those hyperdimensional entities who control this farming operation, and a seed of that soul was replanted into a new "container" in order to grow another essence, i.e. your eternal soul was fed upon.

The reason few know about this relates to how we are being hyperdimensionally controlled by advanced electromagnetically implanted thoughts, and how this particular topic is taboo to the operation in progress.

They are very clever at what they do....

huyi82
28th March 2015, 13:28
Observer - after reading through a lot of the material you pointed out, however - and I hope not to insult anyone - Wes Penres writings are of such enormous scope that Imo there is no real way to see them in any other way than as a story, not unlike Harry Potter.

I am sorry to say, but all I saw was a story claiming to be the story. And for the record, I by no means am entertained by channelled material - I share the opinion that 99% of it is verbal perpetual motion, Sheldan Nidle being a good example(same ole same ole, since 1994(?)... However: I see this soultrap/reincarnation trap as no more plausible than the model of reincarnating, learning lessons and the "veil of forgetfulness" being a good tool to test the player of the game - I mean what would be the point of being nice to another being if you knew that according to the "rules" that is a "point" in your favor? You do it nevermind the gain and there you have something substantial.

Well, no tunnel of light in my nde and in other ways the most real and genuine experience I've ever had into the very core of my being. I can accept very near to anything in my earthly existence being a lie, that experience - not so.
I am saying basically: if you buy into the soul trap idea, what makes you certain of that truth? What if that is another lie?

UT

so hmm, why do tibetan monks/Buddhist also tell disciples to not fall into to reincarnation trap? is that nonsense aswell? by all means do as you wish and keep coming back here over and over for eternity but i have decided i want to get out of this fake matrix and don't come back, ever.

Ultima Thule
28th March 2015, 15:16
Thanks guys, good discussion in horizon!

Observer: I commend you upon your experience! How would you describe the defining arguments or experiences you have had personally that have persuaded you to have a perspective of reincarnation as a trap?

Hyui82 - what is your personal experience that persuaded you to view reincarnation and incarnated life in general as a trap?

How would you both see near death experiences that have gained the individuals wisdom, love and altruistic tendency to help others - fear vanguished? How does that relate to the trap and feeding in your opinion?

As to myself - my personal experience thus far has been near death experience which depicted no tunnel of light and was more profound than anything incarnately experienced. I have no beef with not remembering - what would you learn from a game of solitaire that you could complete everytime? That imo would be an analogue to remembering everything when in incarnate form.

Soul trap view: trapped in reincarnation, no lesson other than planning escape?
My view: "trapped" in reincarnation, lessons to learn while combining spirit/soul with animal form and instincts, once to walk out a free man more evolved?

Dunno, both carry good weight. Does worrying about being in a soul trap mechanism create fear in a person vs. seeing it as a school and decreasing fear?

UT

triquetra
30th March 2015, 05:56
The author of this thread is correct. Humans need training in perceiving something I might call chameleonism, which is the subtly engineered art of taking on an appearance that gives someone what they want, and if it works then they fall under that spell and associate the chameleon with the color they changed to.

It's important to see through that layer all the way inside of that "person". Pierce the outer layer and expose an entity for what they really are.

There are concrete steps that can be taken to lead us the *4th way* out but it seems that even as far as everyone is already, still people will need to gain this ability to truly perceive an entity for what it really is. There will be no more hiding, no more tricks, only answers and a firm sense of direction.

observer
30th March 2015, 22:35
Thanks guys, good discussion in horizon!

Observer: I commend you upon your experience! How would you describe the defining arguments or experiences you have had personally that have persuaded you to have a perspective of reincarnation as a trap?

[....snip]

UT

I spent most of my matured life following the evidence. I've looked at the all the evidence from both sides of the isle. I've drawn my conclusions from what I've reviewed.

Most importantly, once one has drawn a conclusion that contradicts the accepted paradigm, the only way to expose the hidden facts is to reiterate them at every opportunity. Focusing on an obscenity that few people recognize is not "dwelling on the negative". That's a mantra that has been telepathically implanted into the Mass of Humanity since the Dawn of Man.

Focusing on an obscenity that few people recognize is the only way to expose that obscenity.

Camilo
30th March 2015, 23:16
much of this is also George Kavassilas' work.
T3Eln0HBF20

synthetic light at its best includes three components
kundalini
chakra system
pineal gland

George Kavassilas is full of crap!

Flash
31st March 2015, 01:40
much of this is also George Kavassilas' work.
T3Eln0HBF20

synthetic light at its best includes three components
kundalini
chakra system
pineal gland

George Kavassilas is full of crap!

I do not think so.

He may err at times, and I have seen him doing so in my opinion (taking into account that I often err too), but i find that he got more on track lately - listen to what he says within a 3 - 4 level context, it is not stupid

I would however like to know why you think he is full of crap - instead of just stating the obvious to you, but not to us, can you explain why you think that way (like personal encounter, some great insight you had, the illogicism you see, whatever)

Camilo
31st March 2015, 04:49
much of this is also George Kavassilas' work.

synthetic light at its best includes three components
kundalini
chakra system
pineal gland

George Kavassilas is full of crap!

I do not think so.

He may err at times, and I have seen him doing so in my opinion (taking into account that I often err too), but i find that he got more on track lately - listen to what he says within a 3 - 4 level context, it is not stupid

I would however like to know why you think he is full of crap - instead of just stating the obvious to you, but not to us, can you explain why you think that way (like personal encounter, some great insight you had, the illogicism you see, whatever)

After watching all his videos and presentations, I resonated with some of his info, but later found out he is out of it and transmits to much disinformation and off the wall unrealistic material. He even admitted that he was being used by the false light at one point.

Camilo
31st March 2015, 18:20
Inner Earth Dracos And The False Light Campaign

In5D March 25, 2015 Spiritual Awakening

Inner Earth Dracos And The False Light Campaign in5d.com

by Michelle Walling, CHLC
Staff writer, In5D.com

We know about the false light in the afterlife that has magnetically pulled our soul into the reincarnation trap. Now we are uncovering the campaign here on Earth that has kept us under a spell lifetime after lifetime so that we can finally break free of the false light matrix.

How many “spiritual teachers” are you still listening to that mention one or more of these names?

Master Hilarion
Order of Melchizedek
Archangel Michael, or any of the Archangels
Jesus
Adama
Lord Metatron
Thoth
Galactic Federation of Light
There have been books, channelings, and articles written to promote these names and many more in the spiritual and metaphysical groups. The messages seem to be filled with peace and love and the very best interests of humanity. In truth, these are smoke and mirror, false light beings that have their minions living in the inner Earth. They are posers, reflectors of light, and shapeshifters. They are the masters of deception and are metaphorically, the wizards behind the curtain.......

The only thing that is yours is what you choose. Let everything else go.

Put another way:You can un-hypnotize yourself by consciously choosing what to keep as yours, and letting everything else go.

You are not your past (at least not how you remember it). You are not part of the collective consciousness, unless you consciously choose to be. You don’t have to carry the burden of humanity on your shoulders. That is one of the biggest hypnotic implants, and one that so many spiritual and New Age people accept without question.

Start living each day with awareness of what’s yours, and what’s not. If thoughts of lack, disease, low self-worth, confusion and depression come in, ask yourself, “Do I choose these?” If not, let them go. They are NOT yours.

“The Master chooses who they are, and lets everything else go. The Master carries nothing other than their I Am.” This is the definition of freedom and sovereignty. It takes no effort or energy. It just takes conscious choice.