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morguana
16th November 2010, 09:46
McDonald's and PepsiCo to help write UK health policy


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Exclusive: Department of Health putting fast food companies at heart of policy on obesity, alcohol and diet-related disease. The Department of Health is putting the fast food companies McDonald's and KFC and processed food and drink manufacturers such as PepsiCo, Kellogg's, Unilever, Mars and Diageo at the heart of writing government policy on obesity, alcohol and diet-related disease, the Guardian has learned.

In an overhaul of public health, said by campaign groups to be the equivalent of handing smoking policy over to the tobacco industry, health secretary Andrew Lansley has set up five "responsibility deal" networks with business, co-chaired by ministers, to come up with policies. Some of these are expected to be used in the public health white paper due in the next month.

full artical here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/nov/12/mcdonalds-pepsico-help-health-policy)

anyone remember this docufilm?........

Super Size Me


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1432315846377280008#
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1432315846377280008#


Super Size Me is an Academy Award-nominated 2004 documentary film, directed by and starring Morgan Spurlock, an American independent filmmaker. It follows a 30-day time period (February 2003) during which Spurlock subsists exclusively on McDonald's fast food and stops exercising regularly. The film documents this lifestyle's drastic effects on Spurlock's physical and psychological well-being and explores the fast food industry's corporate influence, including how it encourages poor nutrition for its own profit.


Corporate lobbying is blocking food reforms, senior UN official warns


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Lobbying by "powerful" big food companies is blocking reforms which would improve human health and the environment, a director of the United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) has warned.

Dr Samuel Jutzi's public comments in London will be welcomed by campaigners who have long complained that big agri-business and food producers have too much power over political decisions about regulation of their industry, as awareness is growing that the sector is the world's biggest user of fresh water, a major source of climate pollution, one of the greatest threats to biodiversity, and an important cause of obesity and disease.

full artical here (http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2010/sep/22/food-firms-lobbying-samuel-jutzi)


Supermarket Secrets - Dispatches part 1 and 2


How and what we eat has radically changed over the past few decades with the all-consuming rise of the supermarket. But what price are we paying for the homogenised, cheap and convenient food that supermarkets specialise in? In a two-part programme, journalist Jane Moore investigates how supermarkets have affected the food on our plates and reveals the tell-tale signs that the food we buy may not have been grown in the way we think. Using a combination of undercover filming and scientific analysis, Supermarket Secrets investigates whether the food on supermarket shelves is really as good as it looks, whether prices are as good as they seem and what happens behind the scenes in the production of supermarket food. This documentry is in two parts. This first part deals with Factory Farming, chickens, and general quality of supermarket food. The second part deals with Cows milk, food standards, food waste, pesticides, food globalization, and loss of quality of our produce.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5774892958354867332#
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5774892958354867332#


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5774892958354867332#docid=3486838871531386599
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5774892958354867332#docid=3486838871531386599

The Truth About Food


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=manEioR3D3U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=manEioR3D3U

http://documentarystorm.com/health/the-truth-about-food/ for all 6 eposodes


and the government are handing our nations health into the hands of big coporations that are only around for their own gain? i know its been done quietly behind the scenes but this is out in the open now....
thats a real wtf moment my fellow avalonians

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Luke
16th November 2010, 09:57
Well, from what I see, its rather gloves coming off, both in Corporate States and State Corporations.
Numbers show that extend and pretend will be over soon, still some think they might just scrap some more time and power.
The longer the pretending will last the greater cliff will be though.

Steven
16th November 2010, 13:45
The population poisoners "help" (or dictate) our government to built health policy.

In resume, lets fill them up with poison so they can live sick, dependent and sterile. After some years, we'll see a drastic drop in the overall world population. Mission accomplished. Our numbers frighten them.

Namaste, Steven

morguana
16th November 2010, 14:32
Luke and Steven your both hitting nails on heads, feel your both very right
:(
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Banshee
16th November 2010, 15:18
I almost fell out of my chair when I read this on BBC. Absolutely insane. (Playing devil's advocate for a moment)- is it at all possible that the intent is to shame these companies into changing their offerings? Sort of like proactive discipline with children " tell me what to do with you" etc. I know my thought sounds naive but why would they so openly let the "fox watch the henhouse" ( yes, i know another chicken reference ) :)

Kulapops
16th November 2010, 15:49
This is not as unusual an occurence as it may seem. For many years the milk marketing board have been involved in producing health information for schools, same for the meat marketing board. They are obviously biased. This seems like a modernisation of the trend.

I can't go for 'they are poisoning us on purpose' though. Last time I looked, what I put in my mouth was still a free choice. No one forces anyone to eat meat if they don't want to, and those that don't are not fooled by cheery pictures of lambs and brochures telling them what's good for their kids.

If I had a pound for every time someone says to me, 'I can't afford to eat organic'..... I'd look at that pile of money and notice it's not just an evil government doctrine to poison us, but rather a sorry state of laziness, selfishness and lack of education on the part of the consumer.

It stinks of course that pepsico got to put their sugary machines in schools in the states (and over here? I don't know), but I think I read somewhere that that is changing.

Great post Morguana thanks.. but I'm going to pass on this as another slice of the illuminati oiling of the wheels of doom. (Honestly they find slower ways of exterminating us that Blowfelt did with Mr Bond!)

It's just commerce, which is bad enough of course... :)

Billiam
16th November 2010, 15:51
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1320507/Cancer-purely-man-say-scientists-finding-trace-disease-Egyptian-mummies.html

I find this interesting

truthseekerdan
16th November 2010, 16:06
They also teach our children in the process to be materialistic... Have you had "Your Happy Meal Today"? :jester:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buE3IDgaGrI

morguana
16th November 2010, 17:02
Kula I certainly believe that there are some that would not wish for us to be using all 4 cylinders, the so called food a huge majority eat, chemicals in our water supply (Fluride being just one) aspartame in diet food, the chemicals and radiation we are exposed to, I think it all adds up to keeping us in a state of ill health (and that's not to mention of course the billions that are really effected by issues of starvation and poverty). I don't know about the illuminati but I do get a gut feeling of a power struggle within human kind, those that want nice obedient workers and those that wish to break free from what is happening. We are what we eat after all, the state of humans nutritional needs could be really good if only those in big corps wanted it......

As for the food labeling that isn't as correct as consumers think, it is often very misleading (will try to dig out research on this unless some other member can)

Sure some responsibility lies with the consumer and agree eating organic is not hard (even on my small income we manage) and yes it would help if people educated themselves with regards to good health nutrition however here in uk we have a five a day policy that is aimed at getting more folk to eat more fruit and veg.....but even this is false information we should be eating between 8 and 10 portions of fruit and veg. That would be the optimum amount, there is research to back this up but on phone Internet so will try to remember to find info later....unless someone else can find and post.
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Banshee
17th November 2010, 20:44
Well here in the states, we are not as protected as you are in Britain. GMO foods were slipped into our diets without as much as a blip on the screen; RBGH/RBST laden animals and by products are not required to be identified ( THE number one source of cancer and diabetes in children) and of course the plethora of ads bombarding the ill-informed with subliminal advertising making them crave the junk ( McDonalds and their ilk). (Personally, our diet has been 95% organic for a while now.) But I must disagree with you on one point. Contrary to what some believe is a pampered enviable suv driving lifestyle, anyone living in a major metropolitan area in the states is living cheek and jowel with folks who are at or below the poverty line (if you haven't fled to "the burbs"). And as such, we are seeing a phenominon that is clearly atacking the " under classes ". As an example, if one were so inclined, they could walk into the national food chain here and purchase two sixteen ounce porterhouse steaks for about $8 US. Would that be about 14 pound sterling? I bet you can't buy 32 oz. of premium cuts of meat for that in the UK. Milk is .99 per gallon ( the poisonous kind) etc. Now if you are a poor single mother living in the projects with your government food card, are you going to buy this stuff or the organic stuff ( that is if you have a car to drive to the Whole Foods store)? This is just the observation on the food perspective. The remainder of the genocide falls into other categories (lest we forget Katrina). My belabored point is that is is obvious that the PTB are selectively weeding out the population with diet, drugs, chemtrails in certain areas but not others, etc. When I do have to stop at this particular store (non consumables) I am horrified by the ill health and rampant obesity. There are women who are clearly in their twenties and thirties, driving the automated shopping carts because they are too obese to walk. And.... when I visit this foodchain in a ( ok - i'll say it)in a 99% white area, the organic selection is abundant. So, as much as I agree with you about personal responsibility, that is only an option to those who have resources. Yes, these folks made their beds, so to speak, but with the PTB forcing them into government run hell holes for generations(housing projects), they, by default, become part of a subculture. A subculture that the PTBs would rather see dead. Didn't the Georgia stones crop up around the same time that GMO food became the norm in the states?

morguana
17th November 2010, 21:59
Banshee, I think you have just said it all, thank you for your post, seems to me that here in uk we are just following the trends of the US, for better or for worst, :(
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Carmody
18th November 2010, 04:59
If I eat at McDonald's, I go into something akin to cross between Anaphylactic shock and asthma within about 5 minutes. My breathing tube shuts right off and I have a reaction much like a asthmatic.

It starts about five minutes after I finish eating. I feel a build up of phlegm in my throat. I cough or 'hhrumph' gently, to clear it..and then it begins. I can't breathe for about 5 minutes and maybe even 10. Then I'm ok again and the allergy symptoms fade. (my whole head and body feels as if it is puffing up, overheated, hearing is affected, etc.)



I can't eat that garbage.

Luke
18th November 2010, 07:14
Coined a theory yesterday.

See, for all this is worth, there seem to be rule about "victim" willingly agree to abuse.
It is not that there are other, better options, it is that people choose the garbage food - because
(1)it is easy to obtain
(2)Have "right" "loudness" factor.
It's little bit like with colours - from my interactions with clients, I see most people when asked about colour choices - choose yellow, red, blue, "dark jade" green - and I mean those versions that are in felt tips or those self-gluing letters ... zero subtlety, must me loud to be noticed! .. guess it's same with food - it must be flavour enhanced for this people to feel taste ... and to "pleasure centres" in the brain to fire.
It's nearly pavlovian reaction - and is effect of spending years in which psyche is formed in schools, when such 'loudness" is norm.

After all peer pressure is always downward.

All in all, there is always a choice (as required by "rules"), but Elites made it so that beside way favoured way, all other seem unattractive for majority of people

so much for morning musings :)

Ki's
18th November 2010, 16:54
I can say for a fact that it is cheaper to shop for and cook wholesome foods from scratch than to purchase the junk. Organic veg, beans, whole grains are a heck of a lot cheaper than processed or prepared foods. Exp: Oatmeal vs Capt. Crunch -- bag of apples vs bag of cookies.
In my community, bridge cards/food stamps were excepted at our local farmers market and the feed stores accept them for veg seeds. Also, Kroger and Meijer (mainstream American markets) have quite good and affordable organic options.
People have affordable options in the US...unfortunately, too often you find the obese, public assistance individual using their food cards at the local convenience store buying big gulps, prepackaged submarine sandwiches and twinkies. The government states that if a food item can be stored for three days in a refrigerator it is deemed food card appropriate.
The average single mother of three can expect to receive approximately $400 a month food assistance...that could be a LOT of quality food (particularly when you consider it can't be used on typical non food grocery items ie: toothpaste, laundry soap etc...only food.
I'd also have to say that blacks tend to shop and cook better. I've eaten in a few black households and it's a good bet it will be solid, from scratch, southern country style cooking....corn bread, beans and hocks, greens, chicken cooked in a cast iron skillet...oh hell ya-heaven!
I see it as a serious lack of education coupled with the overwhelming in your face advertisement for junk foods.