Engineer Proves Contrails are IMPOSSIBLE! Chemtrails Agenda Fully Exposed

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[indigopete]

This is an unbelievably misleading description. I know people don't like emotive terms on Avalon, but the word "nonsense" is difficult to resist.

For a start, the implication is that the high bypass turbofan "dilutes" the exhaust sufficiently to make the products of combustion negligible. That doesn't change the fact that an aero engine emits several tons of water vapour (do the chemistry: Hydrogen (from a hydrocarbon) + Oxygen (from the air intakes) = H2O) during a flight in order to produce thrust. (I'm not saying the water vapour generates the thrust, I'm just indicating that it is the product of combustion).

The fact that the engine has a high bypass ratio is immaterial. All it does is "wrap" the core exhaust in a tube of low temperature air and delay the onset of precipitation for a few seconds. You can see it if you ever get close enough to other air traffic in the air - the contrail doesn't start to form until about a plane length behind the aircraft.

Spraying a fine jet of highly saturated water vapour into -50 Degrees C ambient air is going to create a contrail. End of. They are sometimes mitigated by varying humidity and temperature, but it's a contrail all the same whether you see it or not (in fact, the very concept that they tend to disappear and reappear lends weight to the fact that they are genuine).

I don't have a problem with believing that "spraying" is going on in selected cases, but this kind of stuff is either deluded or deliberate toxification of the debate.

[yelik]

Controls should not last long, maybe 30 seconds to a minute. It is impossible for a contrail to be mistake for chemtrails

[indigopete]

Controls should not last long, maybe 30 seconds to a minute.

?? Why should they not last long ?

You mean every single contrail that's emitted from all aero engines should never last more than a minute ? Where you get such generalisations from ? They don't warm up after leaving the engine, they only get colder.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Exomaitrix I'll add it to my chemtrail thread ,
I'm not an engineer and I hope its not an april fools
vid as it was posted on 1st....LOL



They talk about engine airflow at the start of this vid....

CHEMTRAIL DENIERS HATE THIS VIDEO real contrails prove chemtrails!

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Published on 24 Dec 2014

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[indigopete]

CHEMTRAIL DENIERS HATE THIS VIDEO real contrails prove chemtrails!



I'm sorry Cidersomerset but all that video does is give the "deniers" a big stick with which to beat the chemtrailers and kill the whole agenda stone dead.

The idea that contrails only appear in high high humidity conditions is wrong. You don't need any humidity to form a contrail because the engine "injects" its own source of water vapour into the surrounding air. In fact, the drier the surrounding air, the colder it will be and therefore more likely to turn the engine-expelled water vapour straight to ice crystals rather than lingering as vapour when there's a chance for them to dissipate.

As a rough example, an Airbus A330 will produce about 7-12 tonnes PER HOUR of water vapour from the engines.

Just to illustrate how deceiving that video it, here's 3 points:

[1] - the sequence at 5:15 with the contrails "during take-off" is captioned "moist outside air compressed by engine decompressed when blown out the back, high pressure to low". First of all, look at the ground - it's covered in dry, lying, snow. Look at the sky - it's crystal clear blue. Look at the upper wing surface and wing tips - no condensation vortices at all. Look at the visibility - perfect. That isn't moist air, it's dry air. The temperature however appears very low and since it's Go Airlines may be some extreme location in India. What's missing from this is the acknowledgement of water vapour expelled by burning the fuel-air mixture from the engines.

[2] - at 6:47, the presenter demonstrates a plain experiment to demonstrate the absorption capacity of air under pressure. What's missing from that demonstration (if we are to take it as a model of a aero engine) is the injection of large amounts of ADDITIONAL humidity into the bottle from an external source. (That would represent the water vapour that's produced from burning fuel).

[3] - in the home-weatherman sequence, he glosses over the column headings in his report sheet, not letting us see what the other columns are. He only focuses our attention on humidity claiming that because the relative humidity is very low (+- 18%) no contrails can form. If you scroll back around the 14:34 point you can just make out what's in the other columns - in particular the one next to the altitude which is temperature. Just to be clear I noted them all:

Altitude
Temperature
Dewpoint
Relative Humidity

At the section he is focused on, the temperature is in the -40 to -50 degree range. Be advised that if you squirt 7-10 tonnes of water vapour per hour into dry air at that temperature, you WILL get a contrail and it WILL linger for hours because at those temperatures it goes straight to ice and stays frozen which stops it from dissipating.

Finally, for another, more down to earth perspective, have a look at this page: http://www.heritage-house.org/about-condensation.html

It discusses problems of moisture in homes and how to manage "condensation in buildings". If you scroll halfway down and look over at the left hand side panel you'll see this little note about gas fires:

http://i.imgur.com/7Iq2Isv.png

That's another example of how the "products of combustion" (where hydrocarbon fuels are concerned) dump huge amounts of water vapour into the surrounding air.

If people really want to expose the geo-enginnering agenda they need to get wise and stop walking straight into traps that can turn them into laughing stocks.

[DeDukshyn]

This is an unbelievably misleading description. I know people don't like emotive terms on Avalon, but the word "nonsense" is difficult to resist.

For a start, the implication is that the high bypass turbofan "dilutes" the exhaust sufficiently to make the products of combustion negligible. That doesn't change the fact that an aero engine emits several tons of water vapour (do the chemistry: Hydrogen (from a hydrocarbon) + Oxygen (from the air intakes) = H2O) during a flight in order to produce thrust. (I'm not saying the water vapour generates the thrust, I'm just indicating that it is the product of combustion).

The fact that the engine has a high bypass ratio is immaterial. All it does is "wrap" the core exhaust in a tube of low temperature air and delay the onset of precipitation for a few seconds. You can see it if you ever get close enough to other air traffic in the air - the contrail doesn't start to form until about a plane length behind the aircraft.

Spraying a fine jet of highly saturated water vapour into -50 Degrees C ambient air is going to create a contrail. End of. They are sometimes mitigated by varying humidity and temperature, but it's a contrail all the same whether you see it or not (in fact, the very concept that they tend to disappear and reappear lends weight to the fact that they are genuine).

I don't have a problem with believing that "spraying" is going on in selected cases, but this kind of stuff is either deluded or deliberate toxification of the debate.

Any compressed air can create instantaneous water vapour. The engine compresses the air as it flows through the engine, and the wings of a plane compress air as it flows over them (which is why occasionally you will see contrails from wing tips - especially on fighter jets). Formula one race car down force spoilers create enough compression on humid days to create a contrail. In my youth I had lungs strong enough that I could compress air enough in them to blow out water vapour (for real).

So yeah I agree - a huge element missing, hard to believe the guy is an engineer?

[Cidersomerset]

Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
CHEMTRAIL DENIERS HATE THIS VIDEO real contrails prove chemtrails!

I'm sorry Cidersomerset but all that video does is give the "deniers" a big stick with which to beat the chemtrailers and kill the whole agenda stone dead.

Fair enough I don't normally post mechanical vids as it is not my scene
and if its BS , that's a fair comment. But I come to it from my own
observations over a the last 7/8 years since working outside daily
and watching the various planes going over head and watching
the literal transformation of the sky infront of my eyes.

The best part of the vid for me was when he was tracking the planes
piggy backing on the backs of commercial flights which I have also
seen on Flight finder and how close they were , which I do not think
is coincidental. I have no doubt geo engineering is going on, but if
part of the vids are not right best to point it out. .......

[indigopete]

[QUOTE]
The best part of the vid for me was when he was tracking the planes
piggy backing on the backs of commercial flights which I have also
seen on Flight finder and how close they were , which I do not think
is coincidental. I have no doubt geo engineering is going on, but if
part of the vids are not right best to point it out. .......

I think the most powerful material that the chemtrailers have is the aluminium contamination (if true). It's a waste of time focusing on contrails because there's simply far more air traffic around than there was 20-30 years ago.

For a start, during the last few years they reduced the vertical separation minimums from 2000 feet to 1000 feet for high level traffic. That in one fell swoop doubles the airspace capacity. Then there's more fuel efficient engines that generate less carbon and more water vapour. We've also moved from 4 engines to 2 which means the 'tube' of water vapour is much thicker and therefore more persistent.

Then there's the question of emission. Are people actually proposing that airliners carry spraying equipment or are they suggesting it's in the fuel ? If it's the former then it'd be about as obvious as a tank in your front garden - planes get taken apart and put back together again every couple of thousand flying hours just to maintain their airworthiness certificates. If it's the latter then everyone's flying around with chemically contaminated fuel which would instantly show up in the millions of sample tests that get done by the aviation industry every day straight from the apron bowser.

All this chemtrails nonsense is probably perfect cover for any real spraying thats going on - in fact I wouldn't be surprised if they were behind half of the Youtube videos just to keep everyone busy with easily debunkable theories.

Demonstrable soil contamination on the other hand is much harder to debunk because anyone can go out and measure it. It's the Achilles heal of the geo-engineering industry IMO. That's where people should be concentrating their attentions.