No Ascension...

[zakkyD1302]

Maybe im just in a weird mood and depressed but I feel like the whole waking up thing and ascending thing a is bullony im not saying it wont happen I just think they r saying more people r awaking and stuff but really no one is ww3 is gunna happen no matter what and a nuke is going to go off before 2017 thats my opionion and there is no stopping it I feel like they have 110% complete control I mean look there r no protests going on anywhere and if there is they never even accomplish anything would love to hear ur thoughts on the pissability of them controlling the waking up trend

[Snowflower]

Years ago, if I said something about the collapsing system to a stranger in the grocery store, I got a blank look. Today, I get agreement. Yes, people are waking up to the reality. As for ascension, I suspect new ager double speak for something they don't have language to describe. I don't think any kind of magic is going to suddenly split the planet into two planets, one in 3rd dimension and one in 4th. I don't think a bunch of people will suddenly disappear into a higher reality, any more than I buy the Christian "rapture."

What I do think is that changes are happening to this physical planet, brought about by physical forces from the universe, that is causing the planet to expand (grow bigger), which is also causing physical changes in the vibrational patterns of this planet which is affecting the physical pineal gland in humans which is resulting in a greater clarity of thought, ability to receive impressions from more esoteric sources such as telepathy, and a more psychic clarity from humans.

In other words, I think it is superstition to credit a mystical awakening when what's happening can be attributed to physical causes. But, nevertheless and regardless of the root cause, the human psyche is undergoing change massive enough to begin manifesting in enough people to see significant alterations in the general populace.

[Innocent Warrior]

The consciousness of humanity is most definitely expanding rapidly, I don't know if that's ascension but it is raising our vibration. Until our consciousness reaches a frequency which triggers a manifested change, it looks like it's not going to happen. You can see a demonstration of this in the video in this link (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?69588-Surfing-with-Wind&p=949450&viewfull=1#post949450) (post #1402).

Weird mood or not, it's a great topic, one which many can relate to, no doubt.

They attempt to control the awakening but how can they when the planet itself is shifting? They're not THAT powerful.

[rgray222]

I remember a long while back someone started a thread on racism. It very quickly devolved into a very testy argumentative thread. I really did not pay any attention to it until it had a few pages of comments. When I finally read most of the comments with a fresh set of eyes it was crystal clear to me that many people were talking about completely different things. In other words most people had a different idea of what constituted racism.

I think words like ascension, enlightenment, racism, awakening, bigotry etc are words that should be clearly defined when starting a thread. It keeps the discussion on topic and avoids argumentative discussion. Just my two cents.

[regnak]

rapture

Bod Deane project Camelot said humans are farmed
Red Elk said that if aliens come down to save humanity the best case scenario is that you end up minding the aliens kids advice would be not to go
Dr Deagle speaks of Rapture were aliens take the first born son of every family ie Jewish Passover

[Omni]

Maybe im just in a weird.mood.and.depressed but I.feel like the whole waking up thing and ascending thing a is bullony im not saying it wont happen I just think they r saying more people r awaking and stuff but really no one is ww3 is gunna happen no matter what and a nuke is going to go off before 2017 thats my opionion and there is no stopping it I feel like they have 110% complete control I mean look there r no protests goimg on anywhere and if there is they never even accomplish anything would love to hear ur thiughts on the pissability of them controling the waking up trend

I agree there is no ascension. Ascension is a government sponsored psy op IMHO, all based on AI based channeling/contactee psy ops, it's a mass delusion if I had to guess. But there is a gradual mass awakening happening I think.

[Selkie]

Castaneda would call it is a shift of the assemblage point. We don't ascend. We don't go anywhere. We stay right here on earth, but we assemble a new reality from (if I recall correctly) the great bands of emanation.

[Arak]

I feel that the planet - and everyone on it - is going thru faster than before spiritual evolution. But I am not sure that the pace is fast enough to save us from ourselves. Said that, I would love to see some sort of sudden magic trick but it does seem unlikely to happen.

[TrumanCash]

I have occupied my current body for nearly seven decades and have been able to observe some changes. I noticed that when I released my two books in the mid-90s people were generally not ready for that information. In fact, even Linda Moulton Howe, who interviewed me by phone at that time, was having a difficult time wrapping her mind around the relevancy of past lives vis-a-vis ET abductions. I stopped being active in getting my information out for over a decade afterwards as I could see that people were not ready for that information.

However, I have noticed an awakening that has been occurring in the past ten to fifteen years. Because of this awakening I decided to publish my books free of charge on the internet.

There has indeed been an increase of awareness on various levels. It is my observation that this is due in large part because of the internet.

However, I should also point out that the masses have not yet awakened and the majority of people are still in a slumber.

Many who are awakening are experiencing the cognitive dissonance phenomenon as they still yet cling to their cherished belief systems. Increasing one's awareness (I do not like using the word "ascension") necessarily involves questioning one's beliefs and sorting out the wheat from the chaff. Deprogramming cannot be done by others but must be undertaken by oneself on one's own volition. Therefore, we must continue to QUESTION AUTHORITY in order to evolve to a higher state of social and spiritual beingness.

TLC

[dim]

ww3 and nukes fit very well my ascension model
i don't know what are you talking about




This is what it's like when a species prepares to depart for the stars.
You don't depart for the stars under calm and orderly conditions; it's a fire in a madhouse
- Terence Mckenna

[gripreaper]

No Ascension? In my opinion, ascension is not leaving the body and going to some higher dimension. The idea is to husband energy right here in your body right now. In it's simplest terms, if you go get a ham sandwich and a beer from the kitchen, you are ascending. You have just added energy to your system from organic matter.

So, ascension is: how much energy can you generate, husband, intention, and then emanate out into the matrix and therefore create your reality?

If you meditate, don't allow astral beings to vampire you. Do not participate in trauma/drama where your energy just escapes from your field. If you eat right, exercise, and surround yourself with like minded people who nourish you and with whom you can have equitable exchanges of energy, then you will have more energy left at the end of the day.

If you don't dissipate this energy through fear or overt sexual release, then you will have more. Having more energy IS ascension. A Kundalini is the manifestation of enough energy in the body to open up the higher brain centers and to have access to a larger portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. More energy gives us more access. The matrix is unlimited energy we can choose to coalesce with.

Ascension is not a global phenomenon, or a collective phenomenon, it is an immortal soul phenomenon, and only becomes collective when enough energy in enough souls coalesce to create a common reality.

As a matter of fact, that is what is happening right now. The collective reality we have all co-created which is coalescing in the matrix, is there because we WANT it to be there. Likewise, there is nothing in your reality or mine which is not being mirrored because of the energy we emanate from our energy field. What you see is exactly what you are creating.

So, keep generating energy, preserving it and honoring it and choosing wisely how to emanate it and change that which you see that you "think" you don't like by choosing to use your energy in ways which make you joyful.

Joy IS the path...

[Camilo]

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion!

The higher densities are all around us and as we increase in "vibration", we become capable of seeing and living in them as well.

[Selkie]

ww3 and nukes fit very well my ascension model
i don't know what are you talking about




This is what it's like when a species prepares to depart for the stars.
You don't depart for the stars under calm and orderly conditions; it's a fire in a madhouse
- Terence Mckenna


You know, I was going to write a post about the chaos and turbulence of the times fitting in with a shift of the human assemblage point! What I was going to say is that we might be in a kind of phase change right now. This could take centuries. But when the change actually comes, it will happen very suddenly

What makes me think this that the whole solar system is changing, right before our eyes, like there is a huge influx of energy coming into the earth and the whole solar system from somewhere else (electric universe theory). The earth is clearly not a closed system, so maybe we are getting a boost from our galactic center. What we do, or fail to do with it is up to us, of course.

But at any rate, I don't think we will depart for the starts, as McKenna thinks. It is my belief that we will stay here, on earth, and just choose a new reality from amongst the great bands of emanation.

That is how I explain it to myself, anyway.

[Agape]

No ascension but also no equal distribution either . You have to understand and it is for your own welfare that everyone is unique in their ability , skills and knowledge ... like pieces of great jigsaw puzzle and some pieces are always missing
transformed to new vision of humanity . You make sense because you are unique .

There is no artificial intelligence more complex and complicated than living intelligence of the Universe .. we may only project ourselves to the 'hard core matter' by complicated means .
There's a big difference between what our generation understands and the way some people will see things thousands years from now .

When you say it does not exist it may be happening right there through you ..



:rapture:

[Elainie]

Maybe im just in a weird.mood.and.depressed but I.feel like the whole waking up thing and ascending thing a is bullony im not saying it wont happen I just think they r saying more people r awaking and stuff but really no one is ww3 is gunna happen no matter what and a nuke is going to go off before 2017 thats my opionion and there is no stopping it I feel like they have 110% complete control I mean look there r no protests goimg on anywhere and if there is they never even accomplish anything would love to hear ur thiughts on the pissability of them controling the waking up trend

I agree there is no ascension. Ascension is a government sponsored psy op IMHO, all based on AI based channeling/contactee psy ops, it's a mass delusion if I had to guess. But there is a gradual mass awakening happening I think.



Couldn't agree more. It's a deliberate New Age psy ops program.

[DeDukshyn]

I think a lot of people need a shift in their understanding of "ascension". It is 100% a personal journey - so if you say "There's no ascension" - you are giving up on yourself; only individuals can "give up" - because the world is made of individuals.

Ascension is a psychological shift at its most basic level, and nothing more. It is the shift within the human psyche from a being that is horribly fear based and self centered to one that can see itself both as a single being and the individuals that make it up. The reason we have all the wars, pain and strife in this world is because the vast majority of individuals base 90% of all their actions out of fear. This doesn't occur at the individual choice level, but becomes the automated program in the mind by which people react to, judge by, and decide with, the vast majority of people react to this program, but to them, they believe it as "free choice", or "they way its been", or "what is practical", and even defines their "comfort zone" - but it is all based on fears programmed into us from the age of small children, onwards.


Humans have been domesticated, like how a wild animal can become domesticated. Our parents tell us we have to be "good", yet there is no proper definition for "good", and often we as children do out best to be "good" and still told we are "bad" and get punished. We get programmed to fear a punishment, or just as bad, fear not getting the "reward" of our actions, and our words - this happens as small children, and it builds strength of the ego's fear in us.

We go to school and are told by our parents and society that we have to do well in school or the world won't accept us, and we won't have a good life. We are told this no matter what our naturals skills are; we need "these" skills forced to us from the "system" - yet not everyone can function well in current confines of academia.

So we fear not being "good enough" for this world. Our church tells us that sinning is "bad" and we will be punished for it, maybe even burn in hell, yet whenever asked to define sin, all answers fall short, so we fear continuously that we may be sinning and trying to figure out our actions between "sin" and "not sin", constantly living in fear of "sinning".

Then we are taught by science that humans have no soul, and there is nothing after death, so we fear death; in fact we fear death whether we believe in continuity of life or not, because even if we believe in an afterlife, we may just end up in hell anyway. So death is feared the most.

Then we get from corporate "society" what the expectations are about what we wear, how we look, what our bodies should look like, which makeup we should use, what car to drive, how big your TV should be, which brand of "X" to own, and "society" seeks to make us feel bad if we don't consume what the trend for consumption is, so we fear "not fitting in" and augment our behaviour yet further from the natural instincts of what a human really is.


I could go on with a "hell" of a lot more, but all these factors are in place for reasons set about by the "controllers" of humanity. They are all control factors, and they all use a subtle form of fear to do the programming; the programming of bars around your natural human instincts, in order to control your thoughts, actions, choices, and even they way you feel about yourself.

This method, this imprisoning of instinct with fear at it's deepest level possible is so effective, that it needs no policing; once set in place, other already afflicted humans become the police to keep you in your "prison", in younger people we identify a tiny aspect of it and call it "peer pressure" - which ironic because we all have succumbed to "culture pressure", have we not? Yet we pretend it doesn't affect us - only teenagers. The irony.

Can anyone remember as a child, using their human "instinct"? To play!? For adventure!? To Imagine!? To make friends with anyone, anything!? To Love!? And can you remember how this fear program slowly crept into your subconscious, until you finally felt like you were a "good kid", "smart kid", "pretty kid", etc.? Remember what it felt like before you were forced to consider these things? I do, and it was bliss - it is what a human is.


So in short what we call ourselves now "human", is but a faded, feeble, and fear programmed replacement for what a human really is, and this human is the cause of all the problems in this world because this human is ineffective, it is sad, it feels hopeless, and this human is us -- pretty much all of us.

When we learn to intercept this programming and once again allow our instincts and our love, or creativity, or true fee will, to flow through unimpeded into this world and to understand our nature as a focusing mechanism, both an individual, and when needed, an awesome collective capable of far more than the sum of it's parts, we have reached "ascension".

We have heard of a past and glorious "Golden Age" or "The Garden" on earth, where it seems like humans of the time were still proper humans, before "The Fall" -- understand that ascension is reclaiming what was lost during the fabled time of "The fall of Man". Our current culture has been fully programmed with a perpetual "Fall" in mind, to keep us down and controlled; those who programmed us initially (and still are programming us) seek such a thrill just from controlling the greatness of what humanity really is; like how a crocodile wrestler gets a thrill from being able to fearlessly control one of earth's most fearsome beasts.


The keys to freeing oneself from this programming are manifold. Looking at the world constantly with the feelings of appreciation, gratitude and praise, can start to break down that programming; but understand that the programming is a powerful muscle, and if it even gets a little exercise, it stays strong. It takes time to weaken it, and you must not exercise it. An example of exercising this program is the message in the original post on this thread (sorry, but it is a great example, really).

Another approach is to understand and feel what your true instincts are, within this is your love (real love - as an energy source), your self confidence, and lies a connection to your "oversoul" or whatever term is appropriate for you. If you can begin to recognize these, before your programming is applied (there is a tiny duration between the two, those who know fleeting glimpses of this know it as intuition), you can practice holding onto that and sliding it past the programming, this both strengthens that pathway - like a muscle, and since it bypasses the programming, it weakens the programming.

So in order to be able to debate "ascension isn't going to happen", we have to understand what it is; It is merely the return from "The Fall" (isn't that totally logical given the terminology?), and it is merely breaking ourselves away from the fear based programming that created "The Fall" in the first place. If you look back through time, you can see that everything is really about this particular form of control over humans.

Before anyone goes on saying something silly like "yes but we need our fear ... blah blah blah" -- consider this. Fear is meant to be in our bodies, to protect our individual from harm -- Earth is a harsh place and this fear is required for our survival. When excess fear gets into our conscious and eventually subconscious, it becomes a program, and a very powerful one that seeks only to lessen a human to a near useless state.

No one person can change another individual, therefore if any "ascension" is to occur, you either create it, or you don't. Every human has to make this choice. When humans attain the ability to fully intercept the programming that goes on just after our instinct, we will have ascended as a collective, and after this, the world will truly be different, very different, as we will have gained back the freedom, and the power, and the love, that we never knew had been taken from us in the first place.

Will this shift occur? If I turn on the TV, or read "NEWS" articles on the internet, I would say, not a chance. But this is because there is much illusion in our world. Major crime has been in a free-fall pretty much since the 90s. If I look say from 2000 years ago to now, what I see are all the adaptions our "controllers" have been force to implement in order to keep control. I see them pulling out all the stops now -- all of them. This is indicative ;) and things don't happen overnight :)



EDIT:
Member Joeecho posted this, I thought it seemed a bit suiting here:

http://dobrador.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/sometimes-thing-holding-you-back-all-in-your-head.jpg

[Orph]

Fear is meant to be in our bodies, to protect our individual from harm -- Earth is a harsh place and this fear is required for our survival.
I agree with everything you say except this. ^^^^ In my opinion, there must be NO fear. Absolutely none. I don't believe fear is necessary for our personal survival, even when faced with a ferocious starving tiger. I believe that if a person truly had NO FEAR, not just false bravado, but truly no fear, in it's deepest sense, then, .............. well, .......... anything is possible. That's just my opinion.

(If I'm face to face with a ferocious hungry tiger, I will be in a state of fear, because I'm still at a so-called lower level) :bolt:

:P

[DeDukshyn]

Fear is meant to be in our bodies, to protect our individual from harm -- Earth is a harsh place and this fear is required for our survival.
I agree with everything you say except this. ^^^^ In my opinion, there must be NO fear. Absolutely none. I don't believe fear is necessary for our personal survival, even when faced with a ferocious starving tiger. I believe that if a person truly had NO FEAR, not just false bravado, but truly no fear, in it's deepest sense, then, .............. well, .......... anything is possible. That's just my opinion.

(If I'm face to face with a ferocious hungry tiger, I will be in a state of fear, because I'm still at a so-called lower level) :bolt:l.

Without the fear in your body being expressed as an instant upsurge of adrenaline it will need to trigger the thoughtless survival instinct of fight or flight, you are 100% destined as tiger food. I don't think you understand the difference between fear in the body vs fear in the mind. Just really think about this a bit more. Most people only perceive the fear of the mind as fear, and know not fear in the body. Fear in the mind causes thoughts of lack, thoughts, of hopelessness, thoughts of revenge, thoughts of fear itself, etc. Fear in the body is not capable of anything more than keeping your body safe from physical harm - this is it's purpose, and it may require an intense focus on the physical plane, yet only for a moment while your body is being saved, fear in the mind holds you down this way perpetually.

We are a physical and a spiritual creature -- there must be balance.

I hope that clarifies :)

[Orph]

I understand what you're saying. But I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I can't prove this of course, it's only my opinion, but I honestly feel that if I can stand there, totally in my power, that hungry tiger won't touch me. Again, just my opinion, of which I can't prove at this stage of my development. :)

[budicca]

My take on ascension isn't about being ported to a new dimension but the DNA upgrading from carbon to crystaline .....I'm aware that 4D is spiritual wrealms then onto 5D once you've gone through that transision which is after the body dies but what do i know eh x ive gone through physical energy changes and had shifts of what the ascension symtoms but some will agree with it and some won't x

[DeDukshyn]

I understand what you're saying. But I don't think you understand what I'm saying. I can't prove this of course, it's only my opinion, but I honestly feel that if I can stand there, totally in my power, that hungry tiger won't touch me. Again, just my opinion, of which I can't prove at this stage of my development. :)

Sure, but until you are a high angel, you are a human, and you are not immune to physical harm. When you are immune to physical harm, you probably won't be physical and will have no mechanism for bodily fear anyway. I do see what you are saying and I can agree to the point that "karma" in a sense becomes far less an issue when you break the programming, you will see far less tigers, I think this is what you are saying, and I would agree termed like this.

[DeDukshyn]

My take on ascension isn't about being ported to a new dimension but the DNA upgrading from carbon to crystaline .....I'm aware that 4D is spiritual wrealms then onto 5D once you've gone through that transision which is after the body dies but what do i know eh x ive gone through physical energy changes and had shifts of what the ascension symtoms but some will agree with it and some won't x

There have been strives made in genetic sciences, and gene expression is certainly influenced by conscious behaviours and patterns. The change in gene expression that may well relate to what's being termed "ascension" will be catalyzed by the shift in consciousness. This denies not the sciences being made in these areas. There may well be a genetic component, but the shift in consciousness of the individual is the catalyst for all the subsequent changes that the earth and humanity will undergo. This makes sense to me.

Whether changes in consciousness can trigger enough change to create a "crystalline" DNA, I'm not sure about that - but I do know regular carbon gene expression can certainly be influenced by consciousness.

EDIT: supporting link added.
https://preventdisease.com/news/10/122010_DNA_changed_words_frequencies.shtml

[Mandala]

Deep down I think I've been sincerely hoping for a "triggering event" to jarr awake the masses. That being said, it does call Dolores Cannon's theory about earth splitting into two earths into question. Was the information she received from past life regressions invalid? She was always so sure and sincere. She said earth was evolving and would be going into a higher vibration with or without us. She said we were like fleas on a dogs back, and earth had her job to do. What about the BS that so many different off world ships and various species are here to see this spectacle because it has never happened before.

Is everything a lie or BS? I'm thinking about Drunvalo, George Kavassilas, Brian Weiss, etc. is the vibrational thing for real or is everyone delusional? In the past I could see a correlation between evolution/ascension/vibrational increase/ and biblical prophecy stories. I could see the spin and see how it could be construed.

So what do you think is really the truth? Do you know? Have a strong feeling?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Slightly bothered at the present by the lack of knowing.

[Selkie]

Deep down I think I've been sincerely hoping for a "triggering event" to jarr awake the masses. That being said, it does call Dolores Cannon's theory about earth splitting into two earths into question. Was the information she received from past life regressions invalid? She was always so sure and sincere. She said earth was evolving and would be going into a higher vibration with or without us. She said we were like fleas on a dogs back, and earth had her job to do. What about the BS that so many different off world ships and various species are here to see this spectacle because it has never happened before.

Is everything a lie or BS? I'm thinking about Drunvalo, George Kavassilas, Brian Weiss, etc. is the vibrational thing for real or is everyone delusional? In the past I could see a correlation between evolution/ascension/vibrational increase/ and biblical prophecy stories. I could see the spin and see how it could be construed.

So what do you think is really the truth? Do you know? Have a strong feeling?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Slightly bothered at the present by the lack of knowing.

What if its all just a way for us to keep ourselves entertained?

[DeDukshyn]

Deep down I think I've been sincerely hoping for a "triggering event" to jarr awake the masses. That being said, it does call Dolores Cannon's theory about earth splitting into two earths into question. Was the information she received from past life regressions invalid? She was always so sure and sincere. She said earth was evolving and would be going into a higher vibration with or without us. She said we were like fleas on a dogs back, and earth had her job to do. What about the BS that so many different off world ships and various species are here to see this spectacle because it has never happened before.

Is everything a lie or BS? I'm thinking about Drunvalo, George Kavassilas, Brian Weiss, etc. is the vibrational thing for real or is everyone delusional? In the past I could see a correlation between evolution/ascension/vibrational increase/ and biblical prophecy stories. I could see the spin and see how it could be construed.

So what do you think is really the truth? Do you know? Have a strong feeling?

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Slightly bothered at the present by the lack of knowing.

I'm not sure if this question was directed at anyone in particular, and I would like to muse in yet again here if that is ok.

On this theory of the "splitting" of the earth, I have given much thought, and this is how I view it potentially: The term, "the earth will split in two" is a metaphor. There will be no physical splitting; some people say there will be a "vibrational" splitting. I see this as an incomplete consciousness shift, say if only half (for example) of people actually go through this subtle psychological shift I portrayed earlier, the world will be entirely different for these people - maybe less so in outward appearances, the entire way it functions to them will be different, and the old fear consciousness will be useless to them, and so too will any decisions or acts that are made on the old way of seeing things. This will create two distinct sets of people, and they may see the world differently enough to no longer be able to see "eye-to-eye" - I see this as a "split" world, both possibly vibrationally (as a form of energy) and functionally, but not the earth actually splitting in half.

As to a "catalyst" I think we may need one at the right time help this shift along, but who knows, really.

[zakkyD1302]

Maybe im just in a weird.mood.and.depressed but I.feel like the whole waking up thing and ascending thing a is bullony im not saying it wont happen I just think they r saying more people r awaking and stuff but really no one is ww3 is gunna happen no matter what and a nuke is going to go off before 2017 thats my opionion and there is no stopping it I feel like they have 110% complete control I mean look there r no protests goimg on anywhere and if there is they never even accomplish anything would love to hear ur thiughts on the pissability of them controling the waking up trend

I agree there is no ascension. Ascension is a government sponsored psy op IMHO, all based on AI based channeling/contactee psy ops, it's a mass delusion if I had to guess. But there is a gradual mass awakening happening I think.

See I feel the exact same way dont get me wrong people r starting to be aware that there food water clithes and air is all poisned but once again no one does anything about it we all just keep eating it I mean **** if I had the money id buy a jet fly up there and shoot those damn planes down that r spraying us but sadly I cant afford a jet lol

[Wind]

We as a humanity are at a crossroads. There is a physical and energetical shift happening in this world (and solar system) which directly affects us and our surroundings. Everything is evolving, collectively and individually (according to our souls plan). As Eckhart Tolle puts it: "Humanity is now faced with a stark choice: Evolve or die. … If the structures of the human mind remain unchanged, we will always end up re-creating the same world, the same evils, the same dysfunction."

So what we are now starting to see that the physical changes are starting to affect us and they will get only more intense (extreme weather), but will the shift in consciousness happen after we see our world turned upside down? Are there sudden "leaps" in human evolution? Evidence suggests so and also the human mind is directly linked to Earth's magnetic field. Who knows what could happen in the future, but everything is changing now. It is a time of renewal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7cylfQtkDg).

[eaglespirit]

We as a humanity are at a crossroads. There is a physical and energetical shift happening in this world (and solar system) which directly affects us and our surroundings. Everything is evolving, collectively and individually (according to our souls plan). As Eckhart Tolle puts it: "Humanity is now faced with a stark choice: Evolve or die. … If the structures of the human mind remain unchanged, we will always end up re-creating the same world, the same evils, the same dysfunction."

So what we are now starting to see that the physical changes are starting to affect us and they will get only more intense (extreme weather), but will the shift in consciousness happen after we see our world turned upside down? Are there sudden "leaps" in human evolution? Evidence suggests so and also the human mind is directly linked to Earth's magnetic field. Who knows what could happen in the future, but everything is changing now. It is a time of renewal (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7cylfQtkDg).

Ebb and Flow...
Keep on Keepin' on with earnest heartfelt honest selfless ever active actions...
I Love You All !!!

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?75673-Am-I-Making-Myself-Perfectly-Clear&p=886169&viewfull=1#post886169

WE are the 'ascension' ZakkyD1302...
just do Your best and ride the ebbs with full heartfelt rhythm of the flows continually following in higher steps.

Get out in Nature and get with People that are IN the "flow"...
They are there around You if You look from and with Your Heart
See and Feel Mother Earth evolving expediently into what You would like to see and experience
for You and All Those You Love!
Envision the New Earth, consistently, Your Own Way and the Means WILL Unfold!
The Ebb and Flows ARE Reaching New Heights!

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Aho!!!

[Mike Gorman]

Years ago, if I said something about the collapsing system to a stranger in the grocery store, I got a blank look. Today, I get agreement. Yes, people are waking up to the reality. As for ascension, I suspect new ager double speak for something they don't have language to describe. I don't think any kind of magic is going to suddenly split the planet into two planets, one in 3rd dimension and one in 4th. I don't think a bunch of people will suddenly disappear into a higher reality, any more than I buy the Christian "rapture."

What I do think is that changes are happening to this physical planet, brought about by physical forces from the universe, that is causing the planet to expand (grow bigger), which is also causing physical changes in the vibrational patterns of this planet which is affecting the physical pineal gland in humans which is resulting in a greater clarity of thought, ability to receive impressions from more esoteric sources such as telepathy, and a more psychic clarity from humans.

In other words, I think it is superstition to credit a mystical awakening when what's happening can be attributed to physical causes. But, nevertheless and regardless of the root cause, the human psyche is undergoing change massive enough to begin manifesting in enough people to see significant alterations in the general populace.

I like the way you think. The fact that the earth has expanded is a physical fact - and yes the "Common Man" (& Woman of course) is far more aware of the cabal, and the potential for great change. also do not believe in the Doleres Cannon idea of a 5th dimensional Earth (Bless her) and partial migration. We have struck much more energetic space, and as a result human beings are more sensitive and energetic also.

[Lifebringer]

WE have to be taught the truth first. A change will happen naturally when the real truth is told to us, to make wiser decisions and solutions.

[Bubu]

No Ascension? In my opinion, ascension is not leaving the body and going to some higher dimension. The idea is to husband energy right here in your body right now. In it's simplest terms, if you go get a ham sandwich and a beer from the kitchen, you are ascending. You have just added energy to your system from organic matter.

So, ascension is: how much energy can you generate, husband, intention, and then emanate out into the matrix and therefore create your reality?

If you meditate, don't allow astral beings to vampire you. Do not participate in trauma/drama where your energy just escapes from your field. If you eat right, exercise, and surround yourself with like minded people who nourish you and with whom you can have equitable exchanges of energy, then you will have more energy left at the end of the day.

If you don't dissipate this energy through fear or overt sexual release, then you will have more. Having more energy IS ascension. A Kundalini is the manifestation of enough energy in the body to open up the higher brain centers and to have access to a larger portion of the electromagnetic spectrum. More energy gives us more access. The matrix is unlimited energy we can choose to coalesce with.

Ascension is not a global phenomenon, or a collective phenomenon, it is an immortal soul phenomenon, and only becomes collective when enough energy in enough souls coalesce to create a common reality.

As a matter of fact, that is what is happening right now. The collective reality we have all co-created which is coalescing in the matrix, is there because we WANT it to be there. Likewise, there is nothing in your reality or mine which is not being mirrored because of the energy we emanate from our energy field. What you see is exactly what you are creating.

So, keep generating energy, preserving it and honoring it and choosing wisely how to emanate it and change that which you see that you "think" you don't like by choosing to use your energy in ways which make you joyful.

Joy IS the path...

I will say Joy is the outcome "egolessness" is the path that's why the matrix is feeding our ego to prevent us from ascending to higher consciousness. In my dumbness they profit.

[ghostrider]

it is said , it will take 800 years before we become real thinking human beings ... it's a waking of the mind to learn to live in balance , peace , love and harmony with all things ... the lust for power and control , and the effects of religion will take a long time to be dissolved ... then will enter into real freedom and a planet of peace ...

[andrewgreen]

Based on my only on my perceptions, before the 60's if you talked about any kind of spiritual awakening you were looked on as crazy, if you did it in the 70's you were a hippie. If you wanted to find an awakened one to learn from you would probably have to travel to the Himalaya's. Now lots of people are talking about and partaking in spiritual practices like meditation, yoga and Tia Chi. Occult or hidden practices are becoming available mainstream.

At the same time the material world is becoming ever denser. Awakening is a an individual choice and path and like Omni said ascension is a global mass event that was created to stop people taking personal responsibility for that choice.

[Omni]

...of what the ascension symtoms but some will agree with it and some won't x

Can you list some of these "ascension symptoms"? I am curious what they allegedly are...

[Mandala]

Hi Dedukshyn, my post was not directed at anyone, just me and my personal frustration about this ascension business.

Reading David Wilcock's comments from another thread about Th Law Of One material, also relates to this event I was speaking about.

Copy and paste quote here:

When we were no longer able to have appropriate channels through which to enunciate the Law of One, we removed ourselves from the now hypocritical position which we had allowed ourselves to be placed in.
Quote Dramatic, even astonishing new developments have appeared, just since December 2014, suggesting Ra has returned to help us defeat this "negative elite" or "Cabal."
Quote Based on everything that we now know, the "quantum leap" they were referring to has not yet happened. Yet there are incredible signs that we are building up to something profoundly significant.

According to insiders working in classified programs with access to advanced scientific knowledge, such an event may occur in 2017 to 2018, if not before then.

There has been a remarkable convergence of insider data, from people working within highly classified "government" programs, and the Law of One.

As for the ascension symptoms, or higher vibrational symptoms this is what I have heard:(Interview with Dolores Cannon from Time Monk Radio) http://www.awaken.com/2013/02/dolores-cannon-5d-earth-is-here/

The crew at Time Monk Radio interviewed past life regression hypnotherapist, Dolores Cannon, who spoke about the changing energies, Dolores Cannon: In The Midst of Much Chaosthe New Earth and signs of the New Earth, who will get left behind on 3D Earth, physical symptoms of ascension, becoming a Light Body, what happens to people who get left behind, removing karma, duality on the New Earth, gridlines, timelines and points of convergence, Nostradamus, free will, moving into 5D Earth, why we’re skipping the 4th dimension, the waves of volunteer souls, earth changes, the overlapping of 3D and 5D, the sun’s relationship with the earth and whether or not the afterlife is a form of the 5th dimension.

Among some of the ascension symptoms Dolores talked about include: high blood pressure, irregular heartbeats, dizziness, depression, joint aches and pains, ringing in the ears and headaches. Cannon stated, “These don’t all happen at once. You might have one every few days,” adding that your physician will not understand that this is your body adjusting to the new frequencies. “If you just wait a few days“ Cannon stated, “you’ll be just fine. It is just the body as it is adjusting (to the new frequencies).”

Everyone has a different frequency and vibration, so it’s going to react differently to these changes.

“The entire universe is being affected by this changing of the vibrations and frequencies. Nothing is escaping from this.”

Cannon stated that people’s diets are changing, most noticeably by eating less meat. “In order to move with this ascension as we go into the new dimension, you have to have the body be lighter.” According to Cannon, eating heavy meats will hold the body down. Cannon stated that right now, “There are at least 30,000 people in the world that don’t eat anything” which means that these people are advancing to the point of being Lightbodies.

“They (the ET’s) told me many times in my work, the ideal diet is live foods. Live foods are fresh fruits and vegetables, organic if possible.” Cannon recommended for people to stay away from sweets and to “drink lots and lots of water because they said the importance of water is unbelievable. There is one tiny thing in water that the body must have. You can eat some meat, some fish and chicken… that’s a lighter vibration of meat, but to stay away from the heavier foods.”

Many people have told Cannon that all they want to eat is smoothies.

When asked about leaving loved ones behind, Cannon answered, “It’s an individual decision of each sole in what they’re going to do. You never know the actual development of any soul as to how advanced it is and how it is ready to go.”

Similar to the in5d article, “So, Your Spiritual Awakening Cost You Some Friends,” Cannon mentions that, for many people, old friends have moved out of their new lives as a new circle of like-minded friends have replaced them.

Cannon stated Earth’s inhabitants are the only civilization in the Universe that have free will. Due to the Laws of non-Interference, other extraterrestrial races are not allowed to interfere unless we arrive at the point of self-destruction. On other planets, the inhabitants have different rules and regulations than what we have here on Earth.

Interestingly, if this is a planet of free will, it would make sense as to why so many people are tired of government running their lives, because as government increases, free will and liberty decreases, which creates a subconscious form of cognitive dissonance that naturally repels us from being controlled by the power elite.

So what are we supposed to be doing right now? According to Cannon, we don’t have to do anything other than living our lives the best way we can. “Live it positively and get rid of karma,” Cannon stated. “That’s the most important thing. Forgive everyone that has harmed you. It doesn’t matter if you had a horrible childhood where you were abused and beaten. Let it go. That’s the important thing. If you had a husband or wife that treated you terribly, let it go, it’s not important. The only thing that is important is what did you learn from that situation. That was the whole purpose of having that experience. If you learned even one thing, (then) that was the purpose for the lesson. The main thing you’re supposed to be doing is treating people the way you would want to be treated (and) to work for good karma. We’re not supposed to change anybody’s thinking. They said ‘that’s a big no-no’. We can’t influence anybody else. If you try to, it would just go over their head and they wouldn’t understand because they’re not ready to understand.”

Cannon also stated that we need to let go of fear because fear will keep you living in the old Earth. “Fear is not real. Fear is an illusion and it’s only on Earth that we have these emotions.”

Cannon attributes many of our current earth changes to the separation of the earth into tow earth, one in 3D and one in 5D. “These natural disasters are happening because the earth is separating and this is creating it. ‘They’ (the ET’s) said, “We’re like fleas on a dog. In order for us to go (with the Earth into 5D) we have to change our vibration.”

Many people have questioned why we are jumping from3d to 5d. The reason, according to Cannon, is that time is the 4th dimension and it doesn’t exist in the 5th dimension. “You are constantly moving in and out of dimensions and don’t even realize it,” stated Cannon, “Because nothing is stable. It’s always changing and moving. This is what I mean by (saying) you can change your reality because everything is malleable.”

As for when we will be in the 5th dimension, Cannon states that we are already there and we will see it when we believe it.

[Mandala]

A further excerpt from The Law of One material which relates to this thread:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81298-Update-from-David-Wilcock-2015-04-05-Celebrating-the-Graduation-of-Law-of-One...


THE GRADUATION

Our earth is now very, very close to its own "graduation" into fourth density -- an event the Law of One series referred to as Harvest.

Before I ever found the Law of One material, for years I had been having remarkable dreams about some sort of mega-event happening on Earth within my lifetime.

This was always phrased as a profound spiritual metamorphosis, changing who and what we are in an instant -- very much like the Biblical concept of "Rapture."

This was also invariably associated with some sort of spectacular, unexpected light phenomenon that seemed to emanate from the sun.

These repeating visions led to me researching the subject of "Ascension," and eventually discovering that many different ancient cultures predicted that an event like this would happen.

I first learned of this worldwide prophecy while reading Fingerprints of the Gods by Graham Hancock after its epic release in 1995.

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This is how my mind made the correlation and tried to connect the dots on this ascension business.

[Roisin]

As time goes by, more and more people will come into direct physical contact with people who have the power of activating and or triggering off what the Hindu religion calls the Kundalini via shaktipat. But even though one can be activated this way, this does not mean that they too will possess the power of shaktipat... only a few will be the receivers of that too when they are activated. Nevertheless, the number of people out there who possess the power of shaktipat has most definitely been increasing hence why we are seeing more and more people out there experiencing spontaneous spiritual awakenings than ever before.

[Joe Sustaire]

"Before you diagnose yourself with depression or low self-esteem, first make sure you are not just surrounded by assholes." ~ william gibson

I looooove that!!!!

[Peace of Mind]

It was always about consciousness. Unfortunately, this has been purposely mixed in with false ideologies.. such as aliens. So many whistle blowers and suppose contactees have used this dated information in hopes of mystifying it, and disempowering the masses with it. We are always ascending, unless you are willingly (or ticked) into remaining in limbo and despair.

When you are aware of the causes/sources to your conditions/environments…you are raising your awareness. Awareness is evidence; while unconsciousness is to dream. And many of us seem to love to dream while the covert conditioners attempt to portal their false realities through global ignorance.

To deal with these changes in the most efficient manner you’ll have to inner and over-stand their origins. Denial of accountability isn’t an example of “waking up”. When raising one’s vibrations…you’re learning that all problems have a remedy at hand. When raising your vibrations you’ll gain insurmountable courage that will aid you in recognizing your purpose/your opportunities/greater wisdom. You’ll immediately become resourceful and serviceable; obstacles befall to your newly acquired thoughts (gained from higher frequencies). Lowering or languished vibrations can only harbor fear/uncertainties/dependency/confusion/inconsistency/and most of all….blind advocates. Death/ waste and a procrasti-nation is what’s planned for you by the manipulators. They want you wasting your precious time hating, debating, judging, standardizing, continuing to creating social divisions in society.

The lower your vibrations are… the narrow your perceptions, thus ascension becomes the impossible discouraging task. When great power is in the hands of a tyrant, the future for both the bully and the victims can only be of a destructive self-serving nature.

When that same power is in the hands of the righteous… they become Christ like beings, their aura hums’, their presence is felt, they manifest at will, and they live fruitfully in the presence of death while laughing in the face of fear. How many people are doing this? hmmm…

Imo, the ascended soul never complains, rarely ask questions, has no fears, appreciates and acknowledges all forms of life while preserving it. Why? Perhaps it’s because all life is short, precious and holds every valuable lesson and blessing needed to learn and advance from this life/realm/dimension….if you’re paying close enough attention.

Ascension is a normal process; life always seeks a way to better itself. This can easily be seen in generations, as each gen is more tailored to the current conditions. Children learn to use modern technology better than their parents, but at the same time are diagnosed with learning disorders because their very essence struggles with today’s “conditioning Learning Institutions” (schools). We are being taught to follow and obey what we can’t experience or fathom on a personal level.
We are living in times when the truth is argued to be unseen… while the proof is more evident and sitting right in front of your face…but you are trained to ignore it, trained to ignore your own gut and feelings. You are ridiculed for being precise…while the blind followers can find solace in believing and perpetuating lies. We are systematically being trained to maintain a flawed way of life simply because of a few greedy manipulators.

Ascension may be at a halt if the person/s isn’t reacting and expanding to their heightened awareness. Ascendents don’t need confirmation because their life is providing all the proof they need.

Ascension is to grow, to know, to be responsible/accountable, and to be a service to others while being the best you can possibly be. Ascendents leave legacies, they are creators, they know very little about “lack”, “limits”, or “how”. They prefer to be doers instead of talkers. Their commitments to well being for self and all is easily recognizable by all. They live life…not complain about why they aren’t living life the way they want to. They don't pretend to not know the answers to their problems, they know a problem can not exist without a solution. They view death as a transition, not an inevitable demise of the self/soul/spirit.

If you’re not resonating with this…you’re probably not ascending....or have other ideas of what it means.
Your mind is the gateway to all realms… use it… or someone, or something else will use it for their own purposes. Be mindful…if you plan on taking your mind to new heights. Believe what you want, it's your right. Just know if life is throwing you a curve, you most likely set the trajectory, and control the velocity of its pitch.

Peace

[Selkie]

I like it on earth, I don't want to go anywhere.

an addition:

I like being human. I don't know if my vibration is high, or low, or somewhere in the middle, and what's more, I don't care.

[Sunny-side-up]

Ascension is just as much about seeing off the lower vibers as it is raising your own vibrations.
We are seeing off the lower vibers, they are losing ground and being forced out in to the light where they have no place or power

Be it a dream, be it a desire, be it happening ;)

[quiltinggrandma]

thank you again budicca-exactly what are acension symtoms?

[Meggings]

thank you again budicca-exactly what are acension symtoms?

Hi, not knowing what the symptoms might be, I went looking and found this summary (from http://www.energeticsynthesis.com/index.php/79-energetic-synthesis/1791-what-is-ascension-2

Some of the symptoms reported include:
Cranial pressure and headaches, Extreme fatigue,Heating up of the physical body, nausea, dizziness, Forgetfulness, irritability, sleeplessness, joint pain, body aches, muscle cramps in legs and calves and shoulders, flu-like symptoms, kundalini experiences, diarrhea, feeling out of sorts, muscle pains, skin rashes, tingling in body parts, having specific awareness of a internal organ or body part unlike the past, diminution of spatial awareness, clumsiness, feverish feeling, feelings of being there and not being here, loss of visual acuity, memory loss, changes with body and head hair, lack of the ability to concentrate, feelings of standing up or moving too quickly that create “vertigo”, the feeling that you cannot accomplish anything because there is not enough time, anxiety attacks that happen suddenly and disappear just as suddenly.

For me personally, some experiences have been my finding I am in both 3D doing our regular 3D activity, when suddenly I am aware of also being in 4D (I assume) and acting simultaneously there. Thus a few times I've been active in TWO dimensional levels, consciously. It is mildly disconcerting, and takes hours (or days) to recover (as in "return to the normalcy of being fully in this 3D body/world). I call these EXPANSION episodes.

There have also been a few experiences where I have felt thick white light around myself, and then felt myself becoming hollow and sort of concentrated towards the outside of this hollowness, and I have felt physically sick to my stomach. Later reflection revealed that I for a short time became an orb that was operating in 5D as well as 3D. My physical body is not pure enough to do this comfortably; hence my feeling rather uncomfortable.

I have also had wonderful experience of becoming 5D within this physical body. It happened last fall when I had constant pain from a newly broken shoulder and could only lie in bed. One night towards evening I sensed white light along my entire left side, and then felt it kind of "crept" into my body (or my body crept into the light). I marvelled as this happened for the unremitting pain of the broken shoulder lessened and very quickly stopped, and I was in a kind of happy bliss. I slept that night in this state, and awoke refreshed still within the 5D body experience..

When a family member came into the bedroom in the morning I spoke, and found my VOICE was full of strands of higher frequency so that I felt my words were a song that wove strands of singing frequencies into it. And I knew without a shadow of a doubt that my voice was a BLESSING to life on earth.

This I believe is a kind of ascension, not only the kind where the soul has ascended and can come and go from the body - but that the body itself becomes ascended and is approaching the ... transmogrification into 5D, the approach to an immortal physical body.

These are things I know are within the destiny of human kind.