What questions would you most want answered?

[Clarion]

This is a hypothetical, but also will help refine something I am working on.

Could you please list five questions that you would most like questioned about anything to do with the universe, our existence, reality, our history, our future etc... If you were able to communicate with 'The All knowing God Source' and you had only five questions to ask, what would they be?

Please make them specific, and not vague like 'What will happen in 2012'? because if you ask a vague non specific question, you will often get a vague non specific answer.

Perhaps I might be able to provide some answers (not channeled).

[Celine]

1- Why are you asking us to name 5 questions?

2- Did i , as a child, ever meet Dr. Cameron?

3- Where is the diamond ring?

4- What am i?

5- Who will win the Stanley cup this year?

Interesting thread..hope you will appreciate the humor in a couple of those questions, i do not mean to mock.. but hey i am from montreal ...Go habs Go!!

[Clarion]

1- Why are you asking us to name 5 questions?

2- Did i , as a child, ever meet Dr. Cameron?

3- Where is the diamond ring?

4- What am i?

5- Who will win the Stanley cup this year?

Interesting thread..hope you will appreciate the humor in a couple of those questions, i do not mean to mock.. but hey i am from montreal ...Go habs Go!!

1. You have free will to ask as many as you wish. Five was just my recommendation
2. Go inside yourself and you will find the answer
3. On Earth
4. A human being. I (only my opinion) believe you to be stepped down individuated consciousness that has emerged from the All That Is, via energy (sound and light) forms into the current time matrix universe containing our collective consciousness. You have probably originally come from a planet in the Pleiades. Your existence in this realm has been highly manipulated and as such you are fragmented consciousness of your original true self. You need to go within to reclaim your identity and not seek answers outside of you.
5. The best team

I told you to be specific ;)

[sjkted]

How far up does the matrix go? Does it ever end? Has God been compromised?

--sjkted

[HURRITT ENYETO]

Where did the God/ Source/ Creator come from?
Am i eternal?
Are Black Holes entrances to alternate Universes?
Why do i exist?
Are Aliens us?

P.S Thanks for the thread :)

[jcocks]

Where did the God/ Source/ Creator come from?
Am i eternal?
Are Black Holes entrances to alternate Universes?
Why do i exist?
Are Aliens us?

P.S Thanks for the thread :)

I'm not god, but I thought I could give your questions a try, as I'm fairly experienced on the spiritual path...

1. God did not "come" from anywhere. "God" has always existed. It's a difficult concept to understand, I know (Even I have trouble coming to terms with it!). in a dimensional model of things, God could be considered the highest dimension - where no individuality exists and we are all the one great spirit.

2. Yes, as spirit is not created and cannot be destroyed.

3. I don't know. Some people say that they are links between universes enabling the flow of "information"... I guess that makes sense to me, but I really don't know.

4. You are here to experience life and the lessons it brings you (Whatever they may be, they are different for each and every one of us)...

5. In a way, yes...as we are all spirits in essense, and there is no differentialtion between spirits that reside in one type of body or whose that reside in another...they are still spirits, regardless. The only exception is mechanical or electronic beings, which (as far as I know) do not possess a spirit. I may even be wrong there - there may have been found, somewhere, a way in which a spirit could inhabit an electronic body.... But not on this planet...

Hope you like my answers and they have been of some help to you :) And, welcome to Avalon! Enjoy the ride :D

[Elandiel BernElve]

Cool thread:)

1. Does my first true love still love me? (haven't seen her in years now that's why I ask;))
2. Is my future predestined?
3. How many lives have I had?
4. Am I delusional because I believe et's exist?
5. Why are French always picked on by others? :p

It's fun to do because somehow it makes me think about what my most important question in life would be.

Bless

[HURRITT ENYETO]

1. Does my first true love still love me? (haven't seen her in years now that's why I ask;))

Dont know but it sounds like you still love her?

[Luke]

(1)How to create space (of any kind)
(2)How to program matter

:)

[Elandiel BernElve]

lol yeah i do;p

(1)How to create space (of any kind)

Move your furniture aside. Or constuct a cube and you've got your own universe in it:)

[HURRITT ENYETO]

lol yeah i do;p

I know what you mean, i think we all still love our first love a little :)

[zenith]

(1)How to create space (of any kind)
(2)How to program matter

:)
You've grown a body,
seems you're already able to do both. :)


Peace

[John Parslow]

Hello Clarion

1. How can we help nearly a billion people who live in abject poverty?

2. How can we reduce global child deaths which has just fallen below 10 million per annum?

3. Is there any way to enlighten the PTB enough to have a change of heart?

4. How can we stop All Wars and bring peace to the world?

5. How can we know when we are ready for Ascension?

Answer all these questions my friend and we shall all live in a much better world …

Best regards to you. JP

[zelda]

Hi
1. In the scriptures, when God said "we shall make man on our image" (or something like that), who is we??? (it come from the book of Genesis)
2. Does the future exist if it is always changing based on our previous behaviour?
3. Is Christ and alien?
4. Why everything happens to Haiti???
5. Back to scriptures, if after Cain killed Abel, he left his family, went to another village, and got married, then, where the "others" come from? Given the fact that there was only Adan, Eve and their kids???
Please dont make me refer to any theologist. The last one I asked even mentioned that dying was a sin. Yeah! I laugh by arrs off with that remark.

Kind regards

[Luke]

You've grown a body,
seems you're already able to do both. :)


Peace
Wrong on both counts, my friend
You do not create space, you use something already existing, filled with pre-existing forms of matter (you know, your basic 3D time-space)
And you do not program matter, you use already existing stuff according to pre-made programs :)

[ArtyCarl]

I only have one question.

The universe is unfathomably large...larger than most people can begin to comprehend. What I would really like to know is if it was created by God or is the notion that it would have to be created something we attach to it and has it just always been like that.

[zenith]

Wrong on both counts, my friend
You do not create space, you use something already existing, filled with pre-existing forms of matter (you know, your basic 3D time-space)
And you do not program matter, you use already existing stuff according to pre-made programs :)
All of that's debatable, but it's way past my bedtime.
I'm off to create some dreamspace. :)


Peace

[Victoria Tintagel]

Elandiel, may I jump in and throw the questions back at you? Hope you don't mind?


1. Does my first true love still love me? (haven't seen her in years now that's why I ask)
2. Is my future predestined?
3. How many lives have I had?
4. Am I delusional because I believe et's exist?
5. Why are French always picked on by others?

It's fun to do because somehow it makes me think about what my most important question in life would be.

Bless Capitaine Elandiel BernElve
Lightwarrior

Huuuhhh? Can't you find better questions to ask God? :) Aren't these questions, to simple and very easily answered? What does God have to do with them, hmmm? Here are some suggestions for answers:

1. Simply ask her and you will find your answer.
2. That's your choice, ultimately, isn't it? If you know what you want, you can decide to act on it and manifest what you want, so in that way it's predestined... by yourself.
But, to be honest, I think there's much ahead of us that will be an expression of awakened aspects of ourselves, that are still sleepinng or somewhat unknown to us. So, probably you will surprise yourself hugely, Elandiel :) Isn't that a great way to look forward to the future? You can only win by that :) Like us all.
3. There's a way to check that, through certain "energy readings".... (is the number important?) :) You could have lived in totally different worlds (out there) and decided to step in here, for the first time, to sew new paradigms.......or step in here, for the first time since thousands of years....rekindling the old ways that are healing to the devastating effects of modern society.
4. You will know when you meet one. I'm sure you will....not be delusional I mean :)
5. I wasn't aware of all French, being picked at, but could it be that chauvinism calls forth a provocative reaction? That's for sure what I have noticed, in France.

Now you can focus on what your most important question in life would be, if that's still on your mind :) Hope you don't mind jumping in your post, ElandielBernElve.
Dutchy Tint.

[Victoria Tintagel]

My 5 questions are
1. Who am I?
2. How can I express my capacities as much as possible?
3. How can I express my capacities in the most beneficial way for life?
4. Are we going to live in natural conditions, in the near future, without the presence of artificial material?
5. Why does my cat always scratch the wall paper in one particular corner of my living room?

Nice thread, thanks :) Blessed be, Dutchy Tint.

[Banshee]

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[Clarion]

My 5 questions are
1.Who am I?
2.How can I express my capacities as much as possible?
3.How can I express my capacities in the most beneficial way for life?
4.Are we going to live in natural conditions, in the near future, without the presence of artificial material?
Why does my cat always scratch the wall paper in one particular corner of my living room?

Nice thread, thanks :) Blessed be, Dutchy Tint.

Hello, I do have answers for you.
THe answers to 2 and 3 are:
Your fully human awareness and capability is unlocked when your 3rd eye opens and looks within down into your body core. You then expand your spacial frequency and that is where you will link with the creator of all existence where you will find true peace and knowing about how to live your life to express your capabilities to the fullness for both yourself and other people.

Unfortunately the answer to 4 is not the best news at this time, but you will always be safe and know the right choices when doing what I mentioned above.

Take care

[Anchor]

I couldn't resist having a crack at these myself - they were great questions:


1. How can we help nearly a billion people who live in abject poverty?

By sharing things, and by measuring our actions by our brothers need.


2. How can we reduce global child deaths which has just fallen below 10 million per annum?

See above


3. Is there any way to enlighten the PTB enough to have a change of heart?

See above


4. How can we stop All Wars and bring peace to the world?

See above


5. How can we know when we are ready for Ascension?

Because it will happen.

[Clarion]

Hello Clarion

1. How can we help nearly a billion people who live in abject poverty?

2. How can we reduce global child deaths which has just fallen below 10 million per annum?

3. Is there any way to enlighten the PTB enough to have a change of heart?

4. How can we stop All Wars and bring peace to the world?

5. How can we know when we are ready for Ascension?

Answer all these questions my friend and we shall all live in a much better world …

Best regards to you. JP

1. You can go within and expand your love for them. Unfortunately, the control structures on this planet prevent you from reaching them on a more physical level.
2. The consciousness on the planet is awakening more at this time than in the past. Slowly, people are choosing a path that will assist more people. Unfortunately, our planet is caught up in several levels of manipulation. You have the power to use your energy to help those in need beyond the physical. Go within
3. Not at this time
4.
5. You are ready when you ask such a question for you are already ascending by asking it. Ascension is nothing more than expansion of consciousness awareness. Please note that the masses are led to believe that the only way to ascend is via a complex process such as seen in Ashayana Deane's teachings. But it is not. There are again agendas at play. To overcome distortions and manipulation the only solution is to go within yourself and connect to the god inside of you. When you expand your own spacial frequencies you will learn the right path to follow and you will be assisted by positive forces outside of the time matrix. The god inside of you is the center of the energy matrix that encompasses this universal time matrix you are in.

The message is simple, put aside all religious teachings and dogma, seek truth from within your inner core not from the world. Spend time away from mundane tasks to search within self for true knowing and the answers of who you are and the purpose for existence will reveal themselves.

[Clarion]

JP the answer to 4 is on a universal scale that is affecting all creation in this time matrix. At this time, there is nothing that can be done to stop the evil other than their own free will until consciousness re-awakens itself in those entities that have manipulating their DNA to distort their connection to the original creation source. Over time that link will re-establish and their grand plans will continue to be foiled. But there is hope, as the creation source protects all of its creations, but only when those creations seek truth from within and connect back to the source. It is a two way street - if you do not wish to link to the source, but follow some other teaching or god then you will fall under their whim. This is the way of your choice.

[Clarion]

Hi
1. In the scriptures, when God said "we shall make man on our image" (or something like that), who is we??? (it come from the book of Genesis)
2. Does the future exist if it is always changing based on our previous behaviour?
3. Is Christ and alien?
4. Why everything happens to Haiti???
5. Back to scriptures, if after Cain killed Abel, he left his family, went to another village, and got married, then, where the "others" come from? Given the fact that there was only Adan, Eve and their kids???
Please dont make me refer to any theologist. The last one I asked even mentioned that dying was a sin. Yeah! I laugh by arrs off with that remark.

Kind regards

1. Enki said that
2. Yes, a probable future
3. There was more than one Christ, and yes alien-hybrids
4. A probable key location for illuminati
5. These stories are religious in nature to pigeon-hole you into believing a specific scenario for worshiping entities that want you to believe they were your creators. There were humans before Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel. Human life is spread throughout this universe in various forms and densities. They want you to believe that humanity is their creation (all they have done is modified the DNA to distort your full self), because if you uncover the secret that humanity has the potential to be greater than those entities, then they will lose control over you. The human race is more powerful than we have been led to believe, and is in essence designed to foil the plots of these various entities that own you through the belief system.

[Clarion]

I only have one question.

The universe is unfathomably large...larger than most people can begin to comprehend. What I would really like to know is if it was created by God or is the notion that it would have to be created something we attach to it and has it just always been like that.

The creator of all is called All That Is. Before ATI awoke to itself, there was nothing. The ATI is pure omniscient consciousness and now it always “Is”, and “will be”. Emanation creates as it extends. The All That Is is not separate from itself but an extension, a reaching outward into the Cosmos. All That Is has a pure consciousness with love toward all creation, to last into infinity. It is not perceived by most of its creation due to breaks in the consciousness and intrusions. As consciousness emanated outwards it expanded to create extensions of itself into energy forms that then seeded thousands of universes compromising time matrixes which is further compressed expansion. Note that consciousness is separate from time. This universe is only one of those many thousands.

[ponda]

1. Have you evolved or are you evolving ?

2. How do you know that you are all knowing ?

3. Do you crave to know/learn more ?

4. Is there anything that is outside of you ?

5. Does anything influence you ?

[witchy1]

Hi Clarion, what are you working on????? its a bit like the question for converstion starters at the dinner table like what 5 people would you have for dinner and why

My questions for the creator are:

Why are you the creator
What is your intended / expected outcome


Please do not give me your interpretation of the answers - the questions are for her only ;-)

[truthseekerdan]

My understanding at this time is that the Source of this universe (God), is actually ITself a part of an even 'bigger scheme'.
Clarion can you confirm or comment on this thought? TIA

Namaste, ~ Dan

[theguardian]

1. Why Bush is not trial for crime against Humanity?
2. Does all Race on Earth come from the same source? if Yes, why so many Killing , hating etc ...
3 . why some people pretend to be spiritual when they are not?

[truthseekerdan]

Hi
Why everything happens to Haiti???

Kind regards

I hope you don't mind if I also respond to this question. :)
What I believe (my opinion), that Haiti is a 'testing ground' for 'evil experimenting' that TPTB are planning to introduce soon in the US and other countries to reduce the population.:sad:

[frank samuel]

1-Is there a galaxy where earth like humans have evolved and achieved their fullest potential ?

2-When will Humans and the controllers stop playing games and finally grow up ?

3- If God created everything who created God ?

4- Why can't we fully remember our past lives?

5- When will ET's intervene directly and reset the clock so that us Earth dwellers can finally get our act together ?

[Clarion]

My understanding at this time is that the Source of this universe (God), is actually ITself a part of an even 'bigger scheme'.
Clarion can you confirm or comment on this thought? TIA

Namaste, ~ Dan

Many layers of consciousness claim to be the source god of the universe - but are not. There are agendas at play even in the higher dimensions. There is nothing beyond the All That Is. My understanding is that All That Is is of everything, beyond that are the Yunasai forms which are the nearest energy forms that have projected from it (that Ashayana Deane material says are the god source). She is correct in that the Yunasai exist. Most keylontic science is correct, but it has also been manipulated due to the thousands of competing entities within the Guardian Alliance some of whom own her existence. Keylontic Science claims all matter and energy are built from Partiki - the smallest unit of energy. All That Is is smaller than the Partiki and compromises Partiki that manifests into denser forms as it condenses through the dimensions.

Can I please preface my comments that I am not the All That Is. I am not communicating with the All That Is. This is just what I have learnt and I am not claiming it is correct or not - but what resonates with you may well be the truth. Only you know if you search within. This exercise is to gauge what questions are pertinent to more enlightened consciousness on this forum to help with the release of material next year that explains more about our reality. It will be more refined, if I know what people want answered. I am not releasing this material, but someone else is. I am from an 11th dimensional race incarnated into a human body to assist with this time.

Many thanks.

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I hope you don't mind if I also respond to this question. :)
What I believe (my opinion), that Haiti is a 'testing ground' for 'evil experimenting' that TPTB are planning to introduce soon in the US and other countries to reduce the population.:sad:

they will be stopped. do not fear

[truthseekerdan]

BTW, since you mentioned Ashayana Deane material, I do have another question: Where does she get her material info from, and what is your take on it? Thanks!

[Clarion]

1-Is there a galaxy where earth like humans have evolved and achieved their fullest potential ?

2-When will Humans and the controllers stop playing games and finally grow up ?

3- If God created everything who created God ?

4- Why can't we fully remember our past lives?

5- When will ET's intervene directly and reset the clock so that us Earth dwellers can finally get our act together ?

1. They already have in this universe. They are who is helping you right now from higher dimensions.
2. This is beyond just a game. This is about survival. As long as any entity is threatened for its survival there will be issues like you mention. Pure consciousness only wants consciousness to evolve in a positive matter. It can only intervene in creation that seeks truth and pure consciousness.
3. There was nothing. It simply awoke. How this occurred will remain beyond human understanding.
4. Because you didn't have a past life. Re-incarnation is a religious idea to mislead people that they cannot evolve into pure consciousness in that you are trapped to continue incarnating in this realm. Past life memories are created by entities that latch onto vulnerable people seeking answers outside of their own inner truth. You can choose to incarnate into another form only by choice and by knowing what you are doing - therefore you can have existed elsewhere in a higher plane before coming here.
5. Positive ETs are already intervening and have been for the entire existence of Earth. Negative ETs are also powerful and not everything can be saved. This is largely due to choices made of individuals due to manipulations. That is why there is so much manipulation.

[truthseekerdan]

5- When will ET's intervene directly and reset the clock so that us Earth dwellers can finally get our act together ?

I believe that I got an answer for you Frank on this one. :)

They (ET's) will not intervene directly, unless we'll make the first step (effort) to 'free ourselves'. This is an 'Universal Law' so to speak, of non intervention only when very critical... JMO

[Clarion]

BTW, since you mentioned Ashayana Deane material, I do have another question: Where does she get her material info from, and what is your take on it? Thanks!

Ashayana Deane is a greedy, self serving and serving the entities that rule her and own her existence. The masses are led to believe that complex process to ascend (and to an elitist group) is the only way, but it is not. The Guardian Alliance knows this and it was planned by the fallen ones for their agenda. The Guardian Alliance is infiltrated. They are not the angelic human race, they are flawed and hybrid in nature and DNA composition. If they were seeking truth for all of humanity they would make information more accessible for all of humankind.

Much of their material is correct in terms of pure Keylontic Science. The science is at the core of the reality experience in this time matrix, that is correct. What is not being taught is the simple process on how to achieve bio-regenisis by linking with the All That Is inside your core using your third eye and increasing your spacial frequency by wanting the truth and true healing. Then you will be able to ascend via the natural processes and be override the metatronic death science that is manipulating Earth population now and accelerating from 2012. There are positive groups that are in and beyond the Guardian Alliance that are helping. Understand that positive groups will help you by protecting your energy when you seek truth within.

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I believe that I got an answer for you Frank on this one. :)

They (ET's) will not intervene directly, unless we'll make the first step (effort) to 'free ourselves'. This is an 'Universal Law' so to speak, of non intervention only when very critical... JMO

Not necessarily true. They are intervening because what is happening here jeopardises more than just Earth in this system. Their intervention is happening, why do you think consciousness is expanding right now? If it wasn't for positive ETs the Earth would simply fall in 2012, this will not happen. However, you are also right in that now is the time to free yourself otherwise your consciousness will be caught here and fragmented. But even if that happens you can always evolve, it just becomes harder for you to know to do that.

[frank samuel]

Clarion while I thank you for your answers they seem to come from AD's teachings , a my correct to think this.
Reincarnation is very real my friend , just as real as the soul that dwells within you . This is my conclunsion not from any ones teachings but from my own personal experience. Often most of the answers we seek are found within .
Thank you also Dan for your answer to question # 5 , I do agree with you we have the potential to free ourselves from the shackles thus one day joining our Cosmic friends, however is not all peaches and cream in the Cosmos neither.:p

Many many blessings to all of you:thumb:

[truthseekerdan]

The Guardian Alliance knows this and it was planned by the fallen ones for their agenda.

Are these the 'guys' that manipulate TPTB? Thanks!

[truthseekerdan]

however is not all peaches and cream in the Cosmos neither.:p

Many many blessings to all of you:thumb:

I agree Frank, there are many varieties of peaches and flavors to discover, and taste. :p :lol:

[Clarion]

Hi Clarion, what are you working on????? its a bit like the question for converstion starters at the dinner table like what 5 people would you have for dinner and why

My questions for the creator are:

Why are you the creator
What is your intended / expected outcome


Please do not give me your interpretation of the answers - the questions are for her only ;-)

I am assisting someone else with a project to awaken more people.

1. I don't have that answer at this time since you do not want my interpretation. I will seek the answer for a later time. My understanding is that it was alone and infant in its original state of energy. Love is/was the vibration as it emanated outward.
2. All That Is has a pure consciousness with love toward all creation, to last into infinity.

[truthseekerdan]

"Originally Posted by Clarion"
I am from an 11th dimensional race incarnated into a human body to assist with this time.

Are you talking about a physical dimension/density here? How many dimensions do you know exist? TIA

[witchy1]

[QUOTE=Clarion;70346]I am assisting someone else with a project to awaken more people.

Most excellent cause Clarion

I see you answered nonetheless - LOL

[Victoria Tintagel]

Hey, that's so nice, you jumping into these posts and suggesting answers, this adds extra value to this thread and I am happy to see more of you jumped in, like I did in Elandiel's questions here, for which I felt like I stepped in his room without knocking, sort of. Did I, Elandiel? Thanks very much for your suggested answers, Clarion :) Blessed be, Dutchy Tint.

[Clarion]

Are you talking about a physical dimension/density here? How many dimensions do you know exist? TIA

Physical but much less dense. There are 15 dimensions, but there is also energy outside of the dimensions. The All That Is does not exist in a dimension, it encompasses them. Or you could call it the 16th but it is so much more than that. Look to Keylontic science for greater understanding of the dimensional structures as that material is mostly accurate.

[Clarion]

Clarion while I thank you for your answers they seem to come from AD's teachings , a my correct to think this.
Reincarnation is very real my friend , just as real as the soul that dwells within you . This is my conclunsion not from any ones teachings but from my own personal experience. Often most of the answers we seek are found within .
Thank you also Dan for your answer to question # 5 , I do agree with you we have the potential to free ourselves from the shackles thus one day joining our Cosmic friends, however is not all peaches and cream in the Cosmos neither.:p

Many many blessings to all of you:thumb:

It is the reverse. Ashayana Deane's teachings are coming from Guardian Alliance ETs and their understandings of structures of what All That Is has created. As I have explained, she is being owned and manipulated and her material is clouded. But a lot of it is also true, but there are also inaccuracies and agendas at play. There is some elements of truth within many teachings out there, but it is mostly distorted. The truth is there to draw you in and then make you believe the rest. It does not mean that the message is 100% black and white in any case. There are percentages of accuracy.

All answers you seek can be found within. Your experience on re-incarnation is a true experience and you have an understanding of that experience, therefore what you think about it is very much true to you. It does not mean there cannot be another explanation though. If you can explain more about your experience, I will seek guidance on helping your understanding of it further.

[shiva777]

Clarion is being owned and manipulated and his knowledge and understandings are clouded...there are some elements of truth in his answers...mostly coming from the Keylontic Science material that Ashayana Deane has made available to humanity at this time.

Bill and some others in this forum continue to put words in to my mouth around what I feel to be ashayana Deanes role and I 've said this before and it's been kind of fascinating to me how people get so upset by AD's work and he's threatened to kick me out of the group for discussing what I believe is the fundamental issue here,goes way beyond what any whistleblower of insider has shared with proj Camelot

..so I'll clarify my take on things here..I DO NOT think that AD'S WAY IS THE ONLY WAY to free ourselves and she has some ego issues to sort out,there is no being on this planet that does NOT have ego issues(if they didn't,they wouldn't be here)it is just one way that resonates for a lot of people and has proven to be very effective for them for over a decade now...we don't all need to do all of her techniques,or any of them but the WISDOM piece needs to be made accessible here and AD's group is but one that is making it more accessible...they are assisting to clear the channels so more people can REALLY have access to the "answers within",without the distortions corrupting things

if Clarion understood keylontic science he would not say "All answers you seek can be found within." WITHOUT making the qualification for that statement to be that we have been cut OFF from Source and direct connection through unwise freewill choices made at very high levels of our selves and in order for the statement "All answers you seek can be found within" to have any PRACTICAl TRUTH WE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO CLEAR and realign the channels that have prevented humanity for 100,000's of years from freeing itself in any ORGANIC ETERNAL way and that is a very DIFFICULT thing to do as the entire hologram has been distorted ,right down to our particle level ...clearing and realigning those channels to be ABLE TO ACCESS the highest levels of ourselves necessary to rehabilitate the hologram is ONLY just beginning to happen for a few now and yes,I also feel that we don't ALL need to go through the very technical and very dedicated practices and techniques that Ashayana teaches through the info she is being given by the Guardians but for SOME it is necessary as it is the WISDOM piece that needs to be grounded here by some...many people instantly get an inferiority/superiority complex when they hear that some people may be way ahead of them in spiritaul WISDOM and development but it's just a fact of life...there is no VALUE difference,we are all of equal value as we are all one...but some are pathcutters BY DESIGN

..for some AD's material serves the WISDOM piece and there are other Guardian and higher dimensional beings(aspects of ourselves) supplying the WISDOM piece through more and more people now that do not require the dedication and technical practices that AD is providing,that WISDOM is coming through in different forms but VERY few people are able to acces it

...humanity has been evolving the LOVE and LIGHT aspects for aeons now but the lack of WISDOM has been the missing piece and has resulted in the false ascension matrix that has recycled souls here for aeons...it is being perpetuated through religions and the new age movement,the distrotions have not been addressed by bhardly anyone as they don't have the WISDOM to even see the distorions

the POINT is that the WISDOM piece needs to be ANCHORED and grounded here so that it can be made more available for the whole of humanity...it is love,light AND WISDOM that is needed to free ourselves and the WISDOM piece is only now being returned to us and there are some wayshowers/pathcutters that are doing the really hard work of getting it in here so it can be more readily available to the people that follow...AD is but ONE of the wayshowers,there are going to be more and more wayshowers becoming public as the distortions are healed

As for him coming from an "11 th dimensional race incarnated in to a human body"...sounds impressive doesn't it?...lol...we all come from high dimensional races incarnated in to a human body....

[truthseekerdan]

Since I can agree with you on this that Ashayana Deane's teachings are not coming from a 'benevolent' source, I'm not very familiar with the 'keylontic science'.
This is due in part to the 'people' that I resonate the most with, never mentioned it as a necessary tool... May I ask for your opinion or suggestion(s) on this? Thanks Clarion!

Namaste, ~ Dan

[shiva777]

Dan,how about naming the "people" you resonate with so Clarion will be able to address their distortions as well...

[SPIRIT WOLF]

Who says A.D's claims are coming from anywhere but her own imagination.............more and more people are getting sucked into this ridiculous channeling nonsense and violently oppose anyone with an ounce of common sense and says its baloney.........you all expect to progress as a species? Listening and acting upon the tripe coming from A.D. will get you nowhere.

[truthseekerdan]

Dan,how about naming the "people" you resonate with so Clarion will be able to address their distortions as well...

Shiva777, just to name some: Keisha Crowther (L.G.), James Gilliland, Dolores Cannon, and a few more...

[truthseekerdan]

Who says A.D's claims are coming from anywhere but her own imagination.............more and more people are getting sucked into this ridiculous channeling nonsense and violently oppose anyone with an ounce of common sense and says its baloney.........you all expect to progress as a species? Listening and acting upon the tripe coming from A.D. will get you nowhere.

As much as I agree with your comment, I believe that she doesn't deserve to be 'condemned', but looked upon with Love and understanding, because she's also 'one of us'. We need to progress together.

[The One]

1 Why did you give us a choice, to be bad or good, when we were born innocent

2 So if you made us, who made you can you prove you exist. Explain your own existence

3 Why do you choose such a noxious bunch of people to represent you

4 Why i am here and the purpose of me being here

5 Do you cry

He'd know all the above questions anyway. He's God after all. So what point lies in asking the question in the first place. Maybe like everyone else, he needs a mirror to see himself. But then, what does he ask you.

[SPIRIT WOLF]

As much as I agree with your comment, I believe that she doesn't deserve to be 'condemned', but looked upon with Love and understanding, because she's also 'one of us'. We need to progress together.

I do not condemn AD, but rather pity her and those that swallow the nonsense that she proclaims, same as that other daft lady Collen Thomas.......notice its mainly females? (wait for the female backlash folks.....but its a fact nontheless).

[zelda]

Dear Clarion :)
Thank you for your answers.
Now, please tell me who or what is Enki.??
Kind regards


1. Enki said that
2. Yes, a probable future
3. There was more than one Christ, and yes alien-hybrids
4. A probable key location for illuminati
5. These stories are religious in nature to pigeon-hole you into believing a specific scenario for worshiping entities that want you to believe they were your creators. There were humans before Adam and Eve and Cain and Abel. Human life is spread throughout this universe in various forms and densities. They want you to believe that humanity is their creation (all they have done is modified the DNA to distort your full self), because if you uncover the secret that humanity has the potential to be greater than those entities, then they will lose control over you. The human race is more powerful than we have been led to believe, and is in essence designed to foil the plots of these various entities that own you through the belief system.

[The One]

Hey Zelda check this website out for Enki

http://www.halexandria.org/dward184.htm

[Anchor]

Shiva777, just to name some: Keisha Crowther (L.G.), James Gilliland, Dolores Cannon, and a few more...

Lets throw in James of the Wingmakers as well please.

Oh why not LLResearch and the Law of One ...

:)

[Beren]

1. Who are you?
2. Who are you?
3. Who are you?
4. Who are you?
5. Who are you?


I will ask further if you answer honestly on the first question, then on a second ,third would be a logical stream and where`s the third there comes the fourth. And fifth is the strawberry on the cake.

Therefore who are you?

[Fredkc]

I only have one burning question. It seems to cover every burning issue on people's minds today.
Tomorrow I'm sure I'll have another:

Do you have psycho-kinetic powers over suffering fish on facebook ?

[frank samuel]

Just an observation while multiple dimensions seems to become a acceptable explanation for things unknown, instead of "God". Now the word God is replaced by benevolent beings from other dimensions and since we cannot recollect or visited most of these dimensions is sort of accepting someone's explanation at face value. In my book this amounts to the same explanation, different jargon, no offense to anyone intended.

My point is that yes most of the answers are found within and if we learn to trust that part of our being that connects to your inner essence that helps you understand things which cannot be seem with your physical eyes but could be felt and experience. Teachings be what they may be all serve a purpose but at the end is up to each individual to value and use that which makes most sense to him. Is dangerous to offer a version of truth as the only way and those that do not follow as doom and condemed, if this was true planet Earth would have faced a permanent destruction long ago.

While I welcome all sorts of opinions , teachings and points of view I always find it troubling to claim my explanation of truth as the only way. In this journey I know I still have a lot more to learn and many experiences to have. This might sound naive to some but at the end of this life cycle the only truth that matters to me is if I loved and was loved, the rest are mainly details.

Many many blessings to all.:wub:

[HURRITT ENYETO]

I do not condemn AD, but rather pity her and those that swallow the nonsense that she proclaims, same as that other daft lady Collen Thomas.......notice its mainly females? (wait for the female backlash folks.....but its a fact nontheless).

Your a brave man Spirit Wolf LOL :)

[Clarion]

Clarion is being owned and manipulated and his knowledge and understandings are clouded...there are some elements of truth in his answers...mostly coming from the Keylontic Science material that Ashayana Deane has made available to humanity at this time.

I respect your views. I am not owned as I do not take directions from other entities.


..so I'll clarify my take on things here..I DO NOT think that AD'S WAY IS THE ONLY WAY to free ourselves and she has some ego issues to sort out,there is no being on this planet that does NOT have ego issues(if they didn't,they wouldn't be here)it is just one way that resonates for a lot of people and has proven to be very effective for them for over a decade now...we don't all need to do all of her techniques,or any of them but the WISDOM piece needs to be made accessible here and AD's group is but one that is making it more accessible...they are assisting to clear the channels so more people can REALLY have access to the "answers within",without the distortions corrupting things

This is mostly correct. Ashayana Deane's way is not the only way to free ourselves, that was my original message. Humanity does not need complex charts and expensive workshops to be able to ascend naturally. There is another way and that was the self bio-regenesis I explained in a previous post. Ashayana Deane's material allows those people who wish to have a greater understanding of the mechanics of the universe to learn it, and that is great, since most of what she teaches that is of pure science is true.


if Clarion understood keylontic science he would not say "All answers you seek can be found within." WITHOUT making the qualification for that statement to be that we have been cut OFF from Source and direct connection through unwise freewill choices made at very high levels of our selves and in order for the statement "All answers you seek can be found within" to have any PRACTICAl TRUTH WE WOULD NEED TO BE ABLE TO CLEAR and realign the channels that have prevented humanity for 100,000's of years from freeing itself in any ORGANIC ETERNAL way and that is a very DIFFICULT thing to do as the entire hologram has been distorted ,right down to our particle level ...clearing and realigning those channels to be ABLE TO ACCESS the highest levels of ourselves necessary to rehabilitate the hologram is ONLY just beginning to happen for a few now and yes,I also feel that we don't ALL need to go through the very technical and very dedicated practices and techniques that Ashayana teaches through the info she is being given by the Guardians but for SOME it is necessary as it is the WISDOM piece that needs to be grounded here by some...many people instantly get an inferiority/superiority complex when they hear that some people may be way ahead of them in spiritaul WISDOM and development but it's just a fact of life...there is no VALUE difference,we are all of equal value as we are all one...but some are pathcutters BY DESIGN

I understand Keylontic Science very well. Your understanding that we have been cut off from source is where you have been lied to. We can never be cut off from source, because source exists in everything that exists and no entities or manipulation can ever change that fact. Even those fallen entities that have cut themselves off from natural ascension cycles still contain a measure of the All That Is inside of them - albeit small. All That Is will assist any entity should they make the choice to seek pure truth and love, irrespective of what has been corrupted in the DNA Template. Humanity has been manipulated so that they will not understand they always had the power to free themselves. That is where there is so much lies and manipulation, because even those with great understand of the science of existence still do not grasp this fundamental concept. The exercises taught by Ashayana Deane can very much help any individual that participates in them, I use them myself on occasion also. But my message is clear, this is only one way to do it, and in fact a more complicated way. All That Is did not create such a wonderous universe to allow only those few that understand the enormous complexity of the physics involved its creation to have the only pathway to re-linking with it. It has provided an easier pathway that involves seeking truth and answers from within. I have never said that you cannot do, or cannot gain benefit from Ashayana Deane's exercises. Please do so as it can and will assist your growth and I congratulation you on making that step. That does not disguise from the fact that she has also been infilitrated, and I urge you caution in placing all your trust in her work.


..for some AD's material serves the WISDOM piece and there are other Guardian and higher dimensional beings(aspects of ourselves) supplying the WISDOM piece through more and more people now that do not require the dedication and technical practices that AD is providing,that WISDOM is coming through in different forms but VERY few people are able to acces it

This is true, yes.


...humanity has been evolving the LOVE and LIGHT aspects for aeons now but the lack of WISDOM has been the missing piece and has resulted in the false ascension matrix that has recycled souls here for aeons...it is being perpetuated through religions and the new age movement,the distrotions have not been addressed by bhardly anyone as they don't have the WISDOM to even see the distorions

This is also true.


the POINT is that the WISDOM piece needs to be ANCHORED and grounded here so that it can be made more available for the whole of humanity...it is love,light AND WISDOM that is needed to free ourselves and the WISDOM piece is only now being returned to us and there are some wayshowers/pathcutters that are doing the really hard work of getting it in here so it can be more readily available to the people that follow...AD is but ONE of the wayshowers,there are going to be more and more wayshowers becoming public as the distortions are healed

This is true and was my point. Ashayana Deane does not make this material more available to all of humanity and she is also self-serving to entities that control what she does. She is controlled, my friend, and therefore open to manipulation you may not be able to begin to comprehend. Not all of the Guardian Alliance is distorted, but some of it is. How is Ashayana Deane using discernment in herself, when she allows herself to be a vessel for those entities that communicate through her. She has admitted as fact that she goes into workshops not even having planned what to say and what is taught is told to her. Can you also not see that I am a wayshower also. I am not pretending to be anything other than myself, I am not the source, I know of it and I am trying to explain my understanding of it. I am no more important than you or any other soul my friend. Please embrace our different journeys, and sometimes the truth hurts about people or entities we place trust in to command us to greater consciousness.


As for him coming from an "11 th dimensional race incarnated in to a human body"...sounds impressive doesn't it?...lol...we all come from high dimensional races incarnated in to a human body....

You are correct - we all come from higher places because this is low plane of density and we all emerged as light from the All That Is at one time. I was not trying to impress anybody, someone asked who I was, and I answered. There are at least 1 million souls from my race on this planet at this time, I am certainly humbled to be one of them and to be here at this time.

[Agape]

Yes I'd rather agree on that, she has to be under their control else she would not be able to produce the thing and it's not the question of IT being benevolent or malevolent it's all but question to whome it belongs ,
and those are usually very few people..

Lets think, few may feel called..so those who feel called will follow ..


Good morning Earth :)

[Clarion]

As much as I agree with your comment, I believe that she doesn't deserve to be 'condemned', but looked upon with Love and understanding, because she's also 'one of us'. We need to progress together.

The All That Is loves all of its creation equally and will assist those that know of the All That Is and seek to find pure truth and love from within. The love sense leaves when there is destruction of life and manipulation. Love stays in a portion when there is a measure of peace and goodwill toward others. As a creation on this planet Earth, it is important to be alive in a bodily form to help others to come to an understanding of who they are in The All That Is, and nurture their existence in purity and honesty. knowing The All That Is allows for pure caring and love to be expanded out to creation, and awareness makes it possible.

[truthseekerdan]

While I welcome all sorts of opinions , teachings and points of view I always find it troubling to claim my explanation of truth as the only way. In this journey I know I still have a lot more to learn and many experiences to have. This might sound naive to some but at the end of this life cycle the only truth that matters to me is if I loved and was loved, the rest are mainly details.

Many many blessings to all.:wub:

Wise words my friend -- the only truth is Unconditional Love, and since this universe exists only in "the mind of the Source/Creator", everything else is an "illusion". We are All the Source (body extensions) experiencing ITself in many different ways... "You can call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one." :hippie:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNDW1yHZ7js

[Clarion]

Thank you all for your time and acceptance of my visit here. Again, I am no more important than anyone else here. I have not been born into, chosen or earmarked for this role I am undertaking because that is impinging on my free will to live an existence as I choose. I have had a life filled with negativity on this planet that has ingrained itself into my bodily structure that made it a great undertaking to unravel the manipulation cast upon me. I did this without guidance from anything other than my own intuition from within myself and knowing that under my breastbone resides something beyond me and that is my connection to all of creation. And from that place and in that connection with All That Is, that is the only place where I seek guidance because nothing else can be completely trusted. The All That Is has no other agenda other than pure love for all of its creation, fallen or enlightened, it is part of us, all of us. The part that knows we belong to something grander. This is not the law of one which is another largely false teaching. It is important we seek strength within ourselves and stop worshiping anything beyond us. The All That Is does not want worship, just knowing of its existence is enough and when you seek pure truth in knowing of it, know that you are protected no matter what happens in this time matrix and you will emerge to join with it again one day. Please learn from the materials of others but gauge and discern by going within and expanding your own spacial frequency and you will have the knowing to filter out the truth from the lies.

I thank you all and wish you all the best. This is my last communication on this forum, I am sorry I could not get to all questions asked but I got enough material that will help refine our project. I thank you for all comments both positive and negative. The negative ones are actually more helpful to me, so thank you again for questioning my material with your own individual discernment and concerns. Please continue to ask questions on this page, I will not answer unless there is a compelling reason to do so, but I will check in from time to time to ensure that the material released around mid-2011 factors in the questions and concerns that people are having. We hope this material will bridge a lot of the gaps that are of concern to conflicting groups to those people that are open to hearing our message. I fully understand that our message will just be more chaff in this movement and many will not accept what the message represents - but we do at least hope to explain the nature of our reality more clearly than has ever been presented on this planet at this time.

Thank you again.

[truthseekerdan]

Well, I hope you'll visit here more often Clarion. Thank you for your time and dedication, and success with your endeavors. :love:

Namaste ~ Dan

[Victoria Tintagel]

Originally Posted by tintagelcave
My 5 questions are
1.Who am I?
2.How can I express my capacities as much as possible?
3.How can I express my capacities in the most beneficial way for life?
4.Are we going to live in natural conditions, in the near future, without the presence of artificial material?
5.Why does my cat always scratch the wall paper in one particular corner of my living room?

Nice thread, thanks. Blessed be, Dutchy Tint.

Clarion:
Hello, I do have answers for you.
THe answers to 2 and 3 are:
Your fully human awareness and capability is unlocked when your 3rd eye opens and looks within down into your body core. You then expand your spacial frequency and that is where you will link with the creator of all existence where you will find true peace and knowing about how to live your life to express your capabilities to the fullness for both yourself and other people.

Unfortunately the answer to 4 is not the best news at this time, but you will always be safe and know the right choices when doing what I mentioned above.

Take care

Hey Clarion, thank you very much, for this thread and your comments and "valuable views and lessons" as I experience most of your posts. The answer I find to my question nr. 4 is a trust in the return of the Garden of Eden, Clarion, on the whole planet here and I agree wholeheartedly with you, on being safe and knowing the right answers, when doing what you mention above in your quote.

I returned today, from a long weekend with Jhadten Jewall, in a workshop called "The Magical Union, A Key to Embracing Life Fully" I copy a part of the introduction in the manual we received for guidance, through the initiations and (sound)meditations. More info on the work of Jhadten Jewall is on www.sacredspaces.net

Workshop manual:

"What is the magical union and why is it important now? The Time of this workshop coincides with the transition from the Earth Goddess to the Fire Goddess energies. During 2010 our consciousness has been able to access certain crystalline frequencies of the Goddess that were inaccessible before. This is part of this ongoing experience of our expanding awareness during this time. The accelerated changes in our world but reflect the quantum leaps in consciousness that we are experiencing. As our consciousness expands, such as from a localized consciousness to a global consciousness, we access different and higher frequencies or our Divinity. The Earth Goddess energies of 2010 are changes in the physical process of consciousness; this has been reflected in the many earth processes such as volcanoes, storms, draughts, hurricanes, floods and earthquakes. In 2011, the Goddess energies we will be accessing are fire energies that are much more connected to our souls and spriritual evolution. How that will be reflected remains to be seen. However, the fact that these energies will be more intense and "firey" goes without saying. Now in the fall of 2010, we have the unique opportunity to begin to prepare for these new energies by laying a clear "crystalline" foundation for them. This foundation or center of focus we will call the "rod of power" or the "crystalline wand of power".

It refers to using the breath to infuse the prana tube "central line of vital life force energy flowing into and through the body) with higher frquencies of your soul energy. Each individual has a mission and purpose on Earth; each country does too. Incarnating or moving to and living in the Netherlands means joining your personal mission to the mission of the collective soul group of Holland. Their mission is to be the Shield of the Command, to create a new immune system through the alchemy of the Divine Masculine and Divine Feminine. The activation of this crystalline rod is, therefore, fulfilling your mission and purpose on a personal and national level. The Netherlands also bring to this process in the sound aspect of this work the Celtic Bardic Codes. Once the limitations of the past have been transformed through the channeling of Divinity through the heart, new abilities to create with sound are set free, a whole new set of Celtic Bardic Codes, a whole new Song of the Land, a whole new Song in the Body.

Activating the crystalline wand of alchemical union within, is creating a powerful place in consciousness, providing our consciousness with tools, to create a new reality that is blessed with Beauty, Harmony, Ease, Abundance, Health and Well-being. This is the new rhythm of Grace that can flow through this tube of energy into our daily lives. Mastering this is creating a reality that your soul has longed for since the day it arrived on Mother Earth. This is a time of joy and celebration for those connected. On Sunday, the 21 of nov. 2010 we will celebrate this! Namaste!

Clarion:
I have had a life filled with negativity on this planet that has ingrained itself into my bodily structure that made it a great undertaking to unravel the manipulation cast upon me. I did this without guidance from anything other than my own intuition from within myself and knowing that under my breastbone resides something beyond me and that is my connection to all of creation.

This sounds very familiar to me, Clarion, especially the "knowing that under my breastbone resides something beyond me and that is my connection to all of creation"
To me, that place under the breastbone, is the sacred space in my heart and the void of "no thoughts and fullness of becoming", the void where my soul shines through and finds expression of itself onto the outside world, with grace and serenity, joy and abundance of life force. It's the place where I can observe my thoughts and stay within my soul confidence, witnessing what takes place and just "be with that".

It's an amazing unfolding of love and wonder, a knowing that ALL will be well, ALL will be taken care of and ALL around me will benefit from that wellness within.
My soul finds expression of it's capacities and the mental capacities are in service of that expression, not the other way around :) The more we love unconditionally, the more intelligent we become....that's another great wonder to me :) The more miracles happen, the more humble I become and at the same time there's a tremendous freeing of something that was caged for a long time :) Thank you all for your inspiring comments and posts here, I am enjoying this :) Blessed be, Tint.

[Alloya]

1) What happened to me when i lay in the sarcophagus, in the Great Giza pyramid when i visited Egypt?
2) Did i do something wrong along my path why did i get so tired and unable to channel anymore without pain ?
3) How can i get myself back on track?
4) How can i contribute to creating a wonderful new planet reality?
5) Will i ever get to go home ?

[Swami]

1. Who am I..?
2. What am I doing here on this planet..?
3. Where do I come from..?
4. Where will I go to (when I die)..?
5. Why did I decide to come back to this planet..?

Hmm, five times "I" in five questions, thats pretty egocentric........

[morguana]

my question would simply be why dont humans give more energy to love?
:wub:
m

[Carmody]

My thoughts on all matters:

Meh!

:p

[truthseekerdan]

my question would simply be why dont humans give more energy to love?
:wub:
m

My answer will be, -- perhaps most humans think that they 'are only human'...:wink:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0gbr7Y5RYg

[morguana]

love you dan, your so right, they forgot a long time ago their multi dimentional, soul self :wub:

[truthseekerdan]

love you dan, your so right, they forgot a long time ago their multi dimentional, soul self :wub:

Back at you, mogs. :love: As soon as one of the portals is open, love is present in you as the "feeling realization" of Oneness. Love is what comes through the portal into this world. As long as you are completely trapped in your form identity, there can be no love.
Your task is not to search for love, but to find a portal through which love can enter. :wub:

[Anchor]

This is my last communication on this forum, I am sorry I could not get to all questions asked but I got enough material that will help refine our project.

I feel so used!

Just joking - I hope you do really well at your project.

John..

[The One]

Why have you put me on this barbaric planet.I must have p...ed you off big time

[morguana]

Why have you put me on this barbaric planet.I must have p...ed you off big time

there is much beauty on this earth, it is our job to add to it, we are here to stand as witnesses to all that is happening and to bring love to all that we touch in our daily lives. you can think of all the icky bits or you can do something about them.......its all about choice
:wub: is what makes life here worth it, to bring light to those in darkness, food to those that are hungry, water for those who are thirsty, shelter for those out in the cold.......actions that come from the heart are what count, if we dont do this then we are not living we are existing. yes much is barbaric, half of the worlds children are in dire povety, doing something about this one issue would bring love and balance into the lives of others thus bringing it into oneself, by keeping these beings impoverished we are also keeping our soul selves in that state, as above so below. so you could say that you have p...ed off the divine big time or you could see it as a challange to make the most of doing something worth while and spreading a little happyness around.
m

[morguana]

Back at you, mogs. :love: As soon as one of the portals is open, love is present in you as the "feeling realization" of Oneness. Love is what comes through the portal into this world. As long as you are completely trapped in your form identity, there can be no love.
Your task is not to search for love, but to find a portal through which love can enter. :wub:

exactly dan, we are the light that is connected to all the other lights around, one big super organism, all are aspects of the divine and all are capable of letting the heart fires blaze, its only our ego interfaces that try to stop us, as it likes to control, once we realise we can let it go we can function from that soul space within
:wub:
m

[The One]

Well said. I should really be turning my negatives into positives I think due to my partner being very ill I sometimes pre judge everything else.

Thank you

[Bill Ryan]

-----------

My one question - which is rhetorical! - is:

1) Why is there such a tendency for people to want others to answer their questions for them?

This dovetails to the Clif High, The Simpsons and New Age Priests thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?7844-Clif-High-The-Simpsons-and-New-Age-Priests) : a fascinating case study about dependence on others' prognostications. This usually backfires.

I once knew a very smart and delightful 17-year old girl, the daughter of a good friend. She and I would talk about everything for hours. She was very curious, and would always ask my opinions.

My answer she liked best was:

Don't allow ANYONE to ever tell you what to think... which includes this advice.

My role - a tricky balancing act! - is not to tell people what to think, but to point to data which I feel is significant and encourage people to think for themselves. From time to time I come across information which I feel is important and valid, and recommend that it's taken into account.

This was the principle of Project Camelot: come with us on our journey. This still applies. In the case of Avalon, it's come with me on mine (if you like).

My understanding is that the game goes on on different levels.


At one level - this Earthly one - the future of the human race feels important, and we may be living through and experiencing a tipping point that will determine the future (one way or another).
At another level, all this is a learning experience which is 100% valid whatever happens.
At the highest level, none of it matters at all, but, hey - immortal beings have to do something to pass the time. :)
The last comment is not just a joke!

Very best to all - Bill

[morguana]

poor you both the one, im sorry to hear this, it is very easy to feel at odds with the world when one is experiencing pain, i hope you find that you both can be held by some of us here in avalon and out in your 'real' lives i hope your supported and loved by many
:hug:

clarion, good luck on your journey, i hope that this thread doesnt get closed as there are lots of really good posts here from fellow avalonians, we may not always agree and sometimes the ego jumps in and words can be pointed but really we are all here to learn and to try to see that there are many paths to walking this life, each one is different but equally valid as the next. i feel as long as we can remember that behind our forum selves there is a real being sat behind the words on the pages.
love to you
m

[lightblue]

bill:
My one question - which is rhetorical! - is:
------------
1) Why is there such a tendency for people to want others to answer their questions for them?------------------




because there's a reason to beleive you are exposed to some reputable sources...this is where the tendency is stemming from, i think...l


.

[Carrera]

........................................................

[Samson]

Our beloved Bill wrote "At the highest level, none of it matters at all, but, hey - immortal beings have to do something to pass the time." and that made me want to share a thought i've played with

Suppose you are god

Omnipotent, omniscient and immortal... isnt that boring?
Billions of years pass and nothing happens you allready knew, you can steer anything and everyone in any direction you can think of and you know how it ends in advance...
Being that god, I could imagine that he wants to start over from scratch, but then again... that god knows how it ends from the start... and even before that... I think that god would consider suicide... but couldnt because he's immortal.
Thats where i think god has split himself into trillions of pieces, in which each particle hardly knows it's him...
These particles are us, and everything.
I think.

[Bill Ryan]

1. Will everyone on Earth ascend?

This poor little guy may not:

http://orugallu.net/vinDu/images/misc/sudanchild1.jpg

Here are three notions to consider:

1) The entire idea of 'Ascension' may be a psy-op planted in the New Age Community as a massive sugar-coated distraction from reality.

2) 'Ascension' may be New Age elitism of the worst kind. Like:"I get to go to heaven (or whatever my New Age equivalent is) - but those poor guys in developing countries who are sick, starving and/or uneducated, I guess they'll have to stay here on Planet Earth a little longer."

3) This may be the actuality: we came here to do a job, and it's not about saving our own souls. It's about saving everyone else's. Maybe none of us who are here to help change things on this planet get to 'go home' until the job is done - unless we quit (which we always have the right to do).

The clean-up job may take several generations - i.e. several more lifetimes. First, we have to face what we have done.

The actual significance of 2012 may be that that's a tipping point - when enough people start to wake up so that a real difference can be made. If it tips the other way, the prison bars may start to close for a very long time. This may be what's at stake.

Now go back and read (1) above again....!

All best wishes, Bill

[The One]

Powerful post Bill

It does make you realise what we have done. How could we have let that happen.

I guess reality does really hurt at times

[Scott]

While I exist in a physical body, I don't really care if the big questions get answered because looking for the answer's is so much of an education, I shall try to remain vigilant to remain within the possible and avoid the absolute.

ok ok what i really want to know is this.
1.Why do we drive on a parkway and park on a driveway?
2. If 7-11 is open 24 hrs a day, 7 days a week and 365 days a year,why do they have locks on the doors?

[jcocks]

"WE" didn't let that happen. I think that's the thing - TPTB feed us the crap that we let that happen - but how could "we"? We're on the other side of the world..... "we" don't have the power to "let" that happen. It's the big wigs, the ones that control the food etc, that let that happen.

all "we" have done is let ourselves lose control of the world - "we" have given our power away, and it is they, who have taken this power, that have let this happen!

What we have to do is take back that power, and with that, *STOP* this from ever happening again! It CAN and WILL be done! But it's going to take a mass realisation an "ascention" of consciousness - in that we're going to have to "ascend" beyond our current ideas and beliefs... And that CAN and WILL happen!

(and that is the real "ascention" - it is not a spectator sport - you have to take part!)

Jowel

[Carrera]

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[Dale]

My understanding is that the game goes on on different levels.


At one level - this Earthly one - the future of the human race feels important, and we may be living through and experiencing a tipping point that will determine the future (one way or another).
At another level, all this is a learning experience which is 100% valid whatever happens.
At the highest level, none of it matters at all, but, hey - immortal beings have to do something to pass the time. :)
The last comment is not just a joke!


I would absolutely agree.

The "game," so to speak, exists on many differing levels; likely more than we can physically imagine. This doesn't trivialize our roles in this all, however. Each level is equally important; a fractal of the above level.

In my opinion, we're all immortal travelers, experiencing all we can, and creating what we wish to experience. After all, we have all of eternity to do this.

Reminds me much of the last verse in the song, "Highwayman," by The Highwaymen:

"I fly a starship across the Universe divide,
And when I reach the other side,
I'll find a place to rest my spirit if I can,
Perhaps I may become a highwayman again,
Or I may simply be a single drop of rain,
But I will remain,
And I'll be back again, and again, and again, and again, and again..."

[DawgBone]

In my opinion, we're all immortal travelers, experiencing all we can, and creating what we wish to experience. After all, we have all of eternity to do this.

Good song!

Yes, if at the top level reality is just God experiencing himself, that's a good argument for multiple timelines. Why settle for just one timeline? Why not experience yourself in infinite combinations and permutations.

(I was going to say "playing with himself", but that wouldn't come across quite right ...)

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[Anchor]

3) This may be the actuality: we came here to do a job, and it's not about saving our own souls. It's about saving everyone else's. Maybe none of us who are here to help change things on this planet get to 'go home' until the job is done - unless we quit (which we always have the right to do).

The clean-up job may take several generations - i.e. several more lifetimes. First, we have to face what we have done.

Love that post.

Raises a point though...

I think people forget that one of the main focus of ascension is not us, rather the focus of ascension is the planet.

The fact that we get this scenario/catalyst/learning opportunity happening - as we ride along is incidental. That does not excuse us from trying our best to deal with the problems as you say. We obviously can smooth the ride out, but if we don't, metaphysical balancing processes will take place and remove the problem. According to my understanding at any rate - it is assured that the Earth/Gaia will not fail to ascend or die at this point. It is not necessarily assure that we have the same get out of jail card.

There are several billion of us God fragments in human form, but only one Earth - which therefore, in this scenario, who would you think should get all the attention from external parties who are motivated to provide assistance ?