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Bill Ryan
10th April 2015, 11:12
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Hi, All:

The following reached my inbox this morning via the Filer's Files newsletter. The source article is here.

http://nationalufocenter.com/2015/04/filers-files-15-2015-admiral-byrds-warning

I confess, I found it fascinating. Some of the photos below I had never seen before. I have only reproduced in this post the genuine photos... some (but not all) of the images in the original article are creative graphics. I have also slightly edited the text for clarity and easier reading.

This all links with the major 2008 Project Camelot article BASE NEW BERLIN. Do read.

http://projectcamelot.org/base_new_berlin.html


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The actual events during the 1930s are somewhat obscure as Hitler built a war machine and gained strength in Germany. Many of the reports are speculation based on the few known facts. We know Hitler sent expeditions around the world to find some of world’s ancient artifacts and lost technology.

The first German Antarctic Expedition was in 1924-27. Neuschwabenland was the German Colony set up in 1938-39 as the war got underway.

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William Brophy writes, "On June 13, 1933, a UFO crashed near Magenta, Italy just west of Milano. The occupants were tall blond Nordics with oriental like features on their light blue eyes. The Italians called the UFO la Campania; the Germans called it Die Locked. The Japanese told the Italians and Germans that those tall blonde-haired people were in their legends; this led to the Axis Alliance."

Hitler realized the craft had likely been built on Earth and sent teams out to find the alien intelligence bases. When Adolf Hitler spread his message of hatred, genocide, and oppression, as having been inspired by a blond race of superhuman warriors referred to as Aryans.

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The Nazis themselves claimed that an extraterrestrial society was the source of their ideology and the power behind their organization. Nazi mysticism, indeed, was reportedly a direct product of cult worship of the Extraterrestrials. The Nazis referred to their hidden extraterrestrial masters as underground supermen that apparently had a base in Antarctica. Hitler believed in the supermen and claimed that he had once met one of them, as did other members of the Thule leadership.

The Nazis said that their supermen resided beneath the Earth’s surface and were the creators of the Aryan race that suddenly appeared thousands of years ago. Aryans therefore in Adolf Hitler’s reasoning, constituted the world’s only pure race and all other people were viewed as inferior genetic mutations. The Nazis planned to re-purify humanity by committing genocide against anyone who was not an Aryan. Top Nazi leaders believed that the underground supermen would return to the surface of the Earth to rule it as soon as the Nazis began their racial purification program and established the Thousand Year Reich.

The tall blonde-haired people’s craft were the UFO’s over Los Angeles on February 25, 1942, and a large disk with a row of windows was shot down in the Santa Catalina Island area recovered by the ars-1 Viking ship and taken to Moffat Field Navy Base.

Nazi ‘aerial disk’ research became more advanced throughout the Second World War, and reportedly utilized jet-turbine and later electromagnetic propulsion systems. As it became apparent that the Germans were losing the war, they allegedly transferred this technology to a base in Antarctica which had been established years earlier, complete with underground installations, and code-named it the ‘New Berlin’.

Although deliberately obscured by the West today, Nazi German leader Adolph Hitler was obsessed with Neuschwabenland which was the name given to the area of Antarctica located between 20°E and 10°W in Queen Maud Land which he believed would one day be the world capital of his “master race.” Allegedly there were 300 square miles of land without snow and ice.

Throughout the entire duration of the war the Nazis had allegedly shipped scientists, workers, technology and saucer components to this Antarctica base or bases. Some reports also allege that Adolf Hitler escaped capture and escaped to South America. Over one hundred German U Boats disappeared during World War II and were never found. According to German naval archives, months after Germany surrendered to the Allies in April, 1945, the German submarine U-530 arrived at the South Pole from the Port of Kiel. It is felt an unknown alien intelligence occupied parts of Antarctica and gave advanced secrets of UFOs to the Germans.

Antarctica Bases and Operation Highjump

Soviet archives have extensive files claiming that Nazi Germany and the United States forged an alliance prior to the end of World War II allowing Hitler and cohorts to escape to Antarctica in exchange for German technology that included the atomic bomb, an advanced fighter jets, rocket and flying saucer technology. This would also explain the post WW2 global campaign to suppress the information concerning the free energy aspect of this from the public.

There is also being advanced the theory that the extraterrestrials belonged to very ancient civilizations that was here before modern man. The idea that these underwater structures predate the Nazis is further bolstered by anomalies such as:

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This is the 1513 Piri Reis map, with Antarctica at the bottom used by Western explorers to “discover” the New World and showing Antarctica to be ice-free with flowing rivers and a clean coastline.

We do know Nazi U977 and U530 submarines went aground in Argentina after carrying supplies to the Antarctic a few weeks after the end of war. Advanced U-boats and supply ships operating out of neutral Spain allegedly carried hundreds of Germans to Antarctica and South America.

The first American expedition to explore Antarctica since 1840 was the Byrd Expedition from 1928-1930. Another US Antarctic Service Expedition 1939-41 visited the continent with Captain R. H. Cruzen in command.

At the end of war Intelligence reports reported Nazi’ ships were heading south. The Secretary of State, Secretary of War and Secretary of the Navy on August 7, 1946 approved Operation Highjump.

A memorandum prepared for the meeting stated that the “Navy proposes to send an expedition to the Antarctic early in 1947. The purpose of this expedition includes training personnel and testing material, consolidating and extending U.S. sovereignty over Antarctic areas, and investigating possible base sites. Rear Admiral Richard .E. Byrd will be designated as Officer-in-Charge of the project. Task Force Commander was Captain R. H. Cruzen”.

Both men had visited the area prior to the war and allegedly and located several “oases”, now secret areas of the Antarctic.

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On December 2, 1946, the task force set sail for the Antarctic continent with a force of 13 ships carrying some 4,700 men The Task Force 68 included multiple aircraft aboard an aircraft carrier the USS Philippine Sea. The Central Group of ships reached the Bay of Whales on January 15, 1947, and planned to stay for six months where they constructed temporary runways along the glaciers, in a base dubbed Little America IV (http://nationalufocenter.com/?email_id=124&user_id=3206&urlpassed=aHR0cDovL2VuLndpa2lwZWRpYS5vcmcvd2lraS9M aXR0bGVfQW1lcmljYV8lMjhleHBsb3JhdGlvbl9iYXNlJTI5&controller=stats&action=analyse&wysija-page=1&wysijap=subscriptions). The ships navigated through an ice pack of several hundred miles before reaching Little America. Icebergs and unpredictable weather were formidable foes during the course of the expedition. Upon arriving at the polar continent they reportedly split into three separate groups and began a massive reconnaissance-like operation taking over 50,000 photographs.

One Navy reconnaissance aircraft was flown by Bunger who flew west with cameras humming. Suddenly the men in the cockpit saw a dark spot come up over the barren white horizon and as they drew closer, they couldn’t believe their eyes. Byrd later described it as a “land of blue and green lakes and brown hills in an otherwise limitless expanse of ice”. Bunger and his men carefully inspected the region and then raced back to the ship to tell the others of their discovery.

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Several days later Bunger and his flight crew returned for another look, finding one of the lakes big enough to land his flying boat on. The lake was filled with red, blue and green algae which gave the lakes their distinctive color.

Most interesting to note about Admiral Byrd’s Operation Highjump mission was his solo flight towards the South Pole on February 19, 1947 wherein he recorded in his diary the following:





“1000 Hours- “We are crossing over the small mountain range and still proceeding northward as best as can be ascertained. Beyond the mountain range is what appears to be a valley with a small river or stream running through the center portion. There should be no green valley below! Something is definitely wrong and abnormal here! We should be over ice and snow! To the portside are great forests growing on the mountain slopes. Our navigation instruments are still spinning, the gyroscope is oscillating back and forth!” Although not released, an alien intelligence was allegedly located.

Operation Highjump has become a topic among UFO conspiracy theorists, who claim it was a covert US military operation to conquer alleged secret underground alien or Nazi facilities in Antarctica and capture the German Vril flying discs. This has always been denied by the US Military.

Commander Graham Bethune and other Navy personnel claim the task force encountered ‘resistance’ and that there was a battle between American and UFO forces operating there, with losses on both sides.

Reports claim disc shape craft came out of the sea coming through the ice attacking some of the ships and aircraft. A brief clip of this was allegedly caught on film.

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Navy official photos show a crashed PBM aircraft, stating this aircraft with the call sign of ‘George 1’ mysteriously blew up killing three airmen.

Naval ships and personnel were quickly withdrawn back to the United States in late February 1947, and the expedition was terminated allegedly due to the early approach of winter and worsening weather conditions.

Among the discoveries made during the 1946-47 expedition was the sighting of two “oases,” one a region of ice-free lakes and land. More than 300,000 square miles of uncharted territory was charted on aerial mapping operations. Their observations proved that radical changes would have to be made on existing maps of the Antarctic.” Why would warm spots, with warm water exist in the Antarctic?

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Admiral Byrd Warns of an "invasion of the country by hostile planes coming from Polar regions"

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These were not “isolated” remarks… Admiral Byrd later repeated the each of these points of view, resulting from he described as his “personal knowledge” gathered both at the north and south poles, before a news conference held for International News Service.

The intelligence report, gathered from Soviet spies embedded in the US, revealed that the US Navy had sent the military expedition to find and destroy a hidden Nazi base. On the way, they encountered a mysterious UFO force that attacked the military expedition destroying several ships and a significant number of planes. Indeed, Operation Highjump had suffered “many casualties” as stated in initial press reports from Chile. The Navy officially lists four men were killed and many injured during the two month operation.

A Soviet documrentary worth watching, with English subtitles, claims a destroyer was sunk:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZTQC8baD5A

The US was very upset with Admiral Byrd’s revelations, and the alien crashes at St Augustin and Roswell. They established, in 1947, The National Security Act creating the National Security Council.

American Reinhold Schmidt, a man whose father was born in Germany, and who tells in his book “Incident at Kearney”, that he was taken on a ‘flying saucer’ on several occasions. Schmidt states that “the crew spoke German and acted like German soldiers”. He also stated that they took him to the “Polar” region.

Later in 1959, the Antarctic Treaty was signed by 12 nations that protects Antarctica and any foreign intelligence that occupies this area. The area on the mainland between 90 degrees west (http://nationalufocenter.com/?email_id=124&user_id=3206&urlpassed=aHR0cDovL2VuLndpa2lwZWRpYS5vcmcvd2lraS85 MHRoX21lcmlkaWFuX3dlc3Q%3D&controller=stats&action=analyse&wysija-page=1&wysijap=subscriptions) and 150 degrees west (http://nationalufocenter.com/?email_id=124&user_id=3206&urlpassed=aHR0cDovL2VuLndpa2lwZWRpYS5vcmcvd2lraS8x NTB0aF9tZXJpZGlhbl93ZXN0&controller=stats&action=analyse&wysija-page=1&wysijap=subscriptions), combined with the interior of the Norwegian Sector is the only major land on Earth not claimed by any country. Antarctica was not being set aside for protection of commercialism, but was being set aside as a possible asylum for alien, other intelligence, or a Nazi Base. The Treaty states: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_Treaty_System)


Article 1 – The area is to be used for peaceful purposes only; military activity, such as weapons testing, is prohibited but military personnel and equipment may be used for scientific research or any other peaceful purpose;
Article 2 – Freedom of scientific investigations and cooperation shall continue;
Article 3 – Free exchange of information and personnel in cooperation with the United Nations and other international agencies;
Article 4 – The treaty does not recognize, dispute, nor establish territorial sovereignty claims; no new claims shall be asserted while the treaty is in force;
Article 5 – The treaty prohibits nuclear explosions or disposal of radioactive wastes.

araucaria
10th April 2015, 11:27
Thanks Bill. I posted something about strange goings-on near the South Pole only the other day:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81354-Reclaiming-the-neutral-middle-ground&p=950219&viewfull=1#post950219
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81354-Reclaiming-the-neutral-middle-ground&p=950221&viewfull=1#post950221

K626
10th April 2015, 12:30
The missions to the Himalaya are well worth looking into. They believed in a 'sky bridge' hidden there that led to the realm of their 'hidden masters'. That the 'masters' sometimes interacted with the mountain folk is why all the 'skull measuring was going on with the indigenous folk. Similarly with the 'Black Forest' which was also a mystical area for the Nazi leadership who were up to their necks in mysticism...SS leaders astrology charts were heavily scrutinized as were their family history etc...The leaps in Nazi tech was partly due to them accessing 'other' information streams mainly in dream states and ritual behavior. All the information we will ever need is already here, we are surrounded by it.

Cidersomerset
10th April 2015, 13:22
Thanks Bill this topic has come up many times and there is something odd about
it , why send an expedition divided into three task forces to the South Pole for
exploration ?.........You would not unless you were looking for something 'Dangerous' !!

In 1947 Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal sent a naval task force to Antarctic
The whole thing is suspicious from the start , and what happened to James Forrestal
only fuels the speculation ......

Operation Highjump commenced 26 August 1946 and ended in late February 1947.
Task Force 68 included 4,700 men, 13 ships, and multiple aircraft. Operation
Highjump's primary mission was to establish the Antarctic research base Little
America IV.

Nation Mourns James Forrestal 1949

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Also the Roswell crash happened in this time frame July 7th 1947 and some
researchers like Joseph Farrell suggest that the craft were Nazi.

Roswell UFO and the Nazi Connection

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Published on 20 Feb 2015 although this vid is older ......


In mid 1947, a crash of a military Air Force surveillance balloon at a ranch near
Roswell, New Mexico gave rise to claims alleging the crash was of an
extraterrestrial spaceship.

Interest subsequently waned until the late 1970s when ufologists began
promulgating a variety of increasingly elaborate conspiracy theories claiming that
one or more alien spacecraft had crash-landed and that the extraterrestrial
occupants had been recovered by the military who then engaged in a cover-up.

Physicist and Oxford-educated historian Farrell discusses Nazi technology, Nazi
survival, and postwar Nazi operations such as German survival and Project
Paperclip with the newly formed CIA and other defense/military establishments. In
Roswell and the Nazi connection, alternative science and history researcher Joseph
P Farrell tells us a very different scenario of what crashed in Roswell, New Mexico in
July 1947, and why the U.S. military has continued its cover-up to this day.

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James V. Forrestal Murdered

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Published on 8 Nov 2012

James Vincent Forrestal (February 15, 1892 -- May 22, 1949) was the last Cabinet-
level United States Secretary of the Navy and the first United States Secretary of Defense.

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This is the official documentry of the 1947 Ant Arctic mapping expedition led by
Admiral Byrd.There were three task forces East, West & Central groups. Gives a
flavour of the time and vastness of the southern continent. Not a NAZI or UFO in
sight !!

Some of the incidents look suspiciously stagedjust like a WW11 propganda
film ..LOL...but that is what they would have been used to, though the conditions &
elements were tough.

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Uploaded on 10 Aug 2011

In 1947 Secretary of the Navy James Forrestal sent a naval task force to Antarctic
including Admiral Nimitz, Admiral Krusen and Admiral Byrd, called "Operation
Highjump". It was touted to be an expedition to find "coal deposits" and other
valuable resources, but in actuality they were trying to find the Nazi underground
bases.

The task force of OVER 40 SHIPS, included the flagship "Mount Olympus", the
aircraft carrier "Philippine Sea", the seaplane tender "Pine Sea", the
submarine "Senate", the destroyer "Bronson", the ice breaker "Northwind", and
other tanker and supply ships. An armed contingent of 1400 sailors, and three dog
sled teams were also on board.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54411-Third-Reich-Operation-UFO--Nazi-Base-In-Antarctica--Complete-Documentary&p=617411#post617411

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This is from the same and is obviously a more condensed version of the
vid posted by Bill above.Its really good and fills in some of the gaps in other
documentries about the suject....

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Published on 25 Sep 2012

http://www.exopolitics.org.uk

For the first time, the legendary 2006 Russian documentary 'Third Reich -
Operation UFO' in its entirety, fully translated into English and available for free
viewing. Many thanks to Irina Du Toit for the translation and the saucer people for the subtitles.

related....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?54614-The-Vril-Thule-societies-NAZI-UFO-s

sigma6
10th April 2015, 13:59
This story has always held great fascination for me... tantalizing. Why this was never a bigger story I don't know... There seems to be enough circumstantial evidence to fly a ufo through ':-O The story that is too big to hide, too many anomalies that they can never completely cover up... One of the biggest puzzle pieces of WWII... how many times have we heard of "German" aliens connected with UFOs?... makes one wonder where the truth ends and the cover-up begins?... truth is stranger than fiction...

At this stage, one must be open to multiple possible interpretations...

Cidersomerset
10th April 2015, 15:05
As Usual after listening to Joseph Farrell vid above which
is a bit condensed and although he makes his points, he
does not have the time to get into detail , so I thought
I'd get out Bill and Kerry's 2009 project Camelot interview,
dust it off and re watch it.......

I cannot remember the details so here we go.....

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post watch comments

This is a very good interview and leads to several
other interviews you and Kerry did with Peter Levenda ,
Jim Mars , the henge and possibly Richard Hoagland.
Time to visit the project Camelot library again......

Lovely story about your father inventing photo fit and
him looking at possible pictures of Martin Boreman
on the kitchen table in the 1970's. If only you knew
then what you know now...LOL

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Near the end of the above interview Joseph comment on how the German
army has brought back some of its Prussian military traditions including the
torchlight parade , which does predate the German National party, back
to the imperial unification of Germany in 1871. In its present form it is still
small and ceremonial , but interesting as Joseph says its been revived and
in their US NAZI style shiny helmets and great coates they do remind me
of the SS a bit......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gro%C3%9Fer_Zapfenstreich


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Torchlight Procession Past Hitler On Balcony....It would of been better in colour...

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araucaria
10th April 2015, 16:13
Further to my above-referenced posts, John Cleves Symmes, I gather, started expounding his hollow earth theory in 1818 and published his “Symmes's theory of concentric spheres : demonstrating that the earth is hollow, habitable within, and widely open about the poles” in 1826.
https://archive.org/details/symmesstheoryofc00mcbr
http://www.sacred-texts.com/earth/boe/boe33.htm
In 1836, the navigator Jeremiah Reynolds proposed that the Congress send out an expedition to the South Pole: An Address on the Subject of a Surveying and Exploring Expedition to the Pacific Ocean and the South Seas. http://books.google.fr/books?id=e-84AAAAMAAJ&pg=PA3&hl=fr&source=gbs_toc_r&cad=3#v=onepage&q=mocha&f=false

This Reynolds not only inspired both Poe and Melville, but ten years after his Arthur Gordon Pym novel, on his deathbed the Saturday evening before he died, Poe is reported by his doctor, one Dr Moran, as calling out for him by name all night until 3 a.m. He then calmed down, passing away at five a.m. (on October 7, 1849).


On another subject, German UFOS, I asked Simon Parkes about this, and he recognized some pictures published in Gary Hyland’s books. See here, and follow the link to my post for pictures:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1420-Simon-Parkes-about-Mantis-Aliens-Reptiles-and-other-aliens.&p=765512&viewfull=1#post765512
I spotted at least one of these craft in the Russian video posted by Cidersomerset. I recall Simon saying somewhere that the Germans were unable to weaponize these craft, but it would seem that Admiral Byrd came up against someone who could.

For anyone with questions, they could do worse than take them to Simon Parkes.

Cidersomerset
10th April 2015, 16:14
following from the interview with Joseph Farrell above , I have to re watch
your trip to Poland...

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This interview was recorded in October 2009, but was only published in July 2010
due to technical problems: several tapes were corrupted and one was lost, and
the result is the best that I (Bill Ryan) have been able to do with the material.

After a vivid start, the interview is one in which Polish military historian Igor
Witkowski drills down, in considerable detail, into the fascinating history of the
Nazi Bell - basically an advanced, highly classified physics experiment regarded
by the Nazis as being of the highest importance for reasons which are still
shrouded in mystery.

Cidersomerset
10th April 2015, 17:33
Bill and Kerry did a group of related interviews
which I'm delving into the library to re watch
and it reminds me how far down the rabbit hole
we have gone over the last decade , and gives
us an excuse to re watch these classics .

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Project Camelot Interviews Jim Marrs

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Uploaded on 7 Apr 2009


Jim Marrs: The Rise of the Fourth Reich In America

Laughlin, Nevada, February 2009

http://projectcamelot.org/jim_marrs.html

Jim Marrs - an amiable Texan with twinkling eyes and a mind like a steel trap - is
a veteran researcher and speaker on all topics connected with the agenda of the
New World Order. Project Camelot is proud to add him to our strong cadre of witnesses.

The books that Jim has authored represent his range of interests clearly: Crossfire
(about JFK), Alien Agenda, Rule by Secrecy, The Terror Conspiracy, PSI Spies, The
Rise of the Fourth Reich, and Above Top Secret. Jim's broad span of research
encompasses Egyptian and Sumerian mythology, Nazi technology, the ET presence,
modern geopolitical analysis, the power of the military-industrial complex, the Illuminati,
and what one might call the real history of the twentieth century.

Jim sees the big picture clearly, has great command of detail, and is one of the strongest
speakers on the lecture circuit today. The title of this video - The Rise of the Fourth Reich
in America - tells its own story, and in this 75 minute interview Jim lays out the compelling
and disturbing evidence that while most people thought the Second World War ended in
1945, the Nazis were never stopped in their agenda - which can only be understood when
one considers how they were assisted in coming to power by those Controllers who plan in
terms of generations... not terms of government office.

To contact Bill Ryan or Kerry Cassidy, please e-mail us at support@projectcamelot.org.

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As Jim says among many other things 1947 saw the founding of the Security Council and CIA....

https://melaniekillingervowell.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/nsa-logo-6-6-13.pnghttp://www.michellehenry.fr/SealCIA02%20(1).jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Act_of_1947

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Defense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intelligence_Agency

noprophet
10th April 2015, 18:12
oops, nvm, Cider got it :)

Tesla_WTC_Solution
10th April 2015, 18:18
Due to the very factual REAL-NESS (!) of Projekt Riese (Giant), Die Glocke (the bell!) and countless others,
it's hard to disbelieve any of this.

I've rather disliked what's been learned over the years regarding the crap that went down in 1947 (the Act),
and it's pretty astute to connect It to the advent of UFO sightings (and of course, we cannot ignore the timeline of the Uranverein/Manhattan thing).

It does look like our world went to **** in about 25 years or less... @@

Fantastic thread, by the way.
It really does make a person wonder, and that's the last thing the extreme right seems to appreciate.
They are the ones keeping the lid on the secrets according to what's out there.

The whole establishment of a peacetime intel agency, the whole nine yards of that dirty TP and red tape,
was borne out of the extreme right, and considering that the "extreme right" actually turns out to be "extremely socialist" given the right conditions,
I can see how the little war hawks in the eastern hemisphere schooled the ones in the west, and gave us this fine mess to inherit/unravel...




No wonder the last 80 years have been under such wraps.
People would be horrified to know how we treated ET and responded to seeing them...

the whole excuse of the Cold War etc. just to justify building a barricade around our planet.
Madeleine L'Engle said that the visitors were already having trouble on earth and soon we might fall from shadow into total darkness --

the people have a responsibility to demand the truth, not go along with the darkness --

thanks for being a Light PA!


p.s. Kiwielf made a good thread a few years back, mentions Antarctica:


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30004-History-Amended-100-Years-of-Deception&p=304331&highlight=tesla+antarctica#post304331

1945: Despite allied efforts, the Germans successfully fly a crew-carrying version of the "fireball" from secret underground base in Thuringia. Known as the "Kugelblitz," this disk-shaped craft attains speeds of over 1,250 mph. Plans are drawn up for a continuation of the Third Reich, despite the end of the war. Scientists, plans and gravitational engines shipped out of Germany to Antarctica, where underground bases are set up and have been maintained since. Both Americans and Soviets gain access to some of the advanced German disk technology.

Werner Von Braun and over 1,000 German scientists and Intelligence personnel are transported to USA and given false papers in order to work secretly for US Government in areas of advanced technology, rocketry, genetics, germ warfare and intelligence operations, under Operation Paperclip. Continues into 1946.
1947: Kenneth Arnold coins the term, "flying saucer". Powerful radar unit in
Four Corners area causes crash of several more alien craft, most notably in Roswell, Aztec and New Mexico. US military first claim to have captured "flying disk" with alien occupants, then state it was National Security issue but officially a "weather balloon."

What becomes known as "The Roswell Incident" does not reveal the real findings: The crashed ship is allegedly from our future and contained both alien and human remains.

National Security Council founded, CIA and MJ-12 formed. 50% of CIA is composed of Nazi SS Intelligence personnel and Operation Highjump initiated by US to locate German base in Antarctica after advanced German disks overfly US airspace on several occasions. Operation is unsuccessful.


holy mackerel


p.p.s. why would ETs favor the poles:

~ pure water on most planets can be found in polar ice
~ less visible launches and landings
~ no more reasons needed lol

Kez
10th April 2015, 18:23
Thanks for the post Bill, surprisingly enough this topic is one of the main switches that lead me to my awakening just under a year ago. I always wondered why Hitler's perfect race had to consist of blonde hair and blue eyes, now I know that it is likely because that is what the Nordics look like. I'd personally love to learn more regarding the secret Nazi bases on Antarctica, very interesting stuff indeed. :-D

Cidersomerset
10th April 2015, 18:49
Peter Levenda : Sinister Forces. 2 - 2009 Project Camelot

Peter talks about his experience in Chile looking for NAZI ex pats , and Chile
has definitely NASI roots and influence......Do you think NAZI's might of been
able to hide here and feel at home ???...LOL

Preussens Gloria - Ejercito de Chile

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Uploaded on 16 Aug 2011

In the XIX Century the Chilean Army was trained and equiped by Prussia and then
Germany (up until 1945). There is still a heavy influence of German traditions and
equipment in the Chilean Army. You will see pickelhaube helmets, M42 helmets (in
vulkanized fiber), and even Leopard battle tanks in parades and ceremonies.


longer version from 2013

"Wehrmacht Parade Style" 2013 HD 720p

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Published on 15 Mar 2014
Chilean Army Parade 19/09/2013

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Uploaded on 20 Jan 2011


Peter Levenda : http://peterlevenda.com/
I had an interview with Gary Null of the Progressive Radio Network which is now online at:
http://prn.fm/progressive-commentary-...
We covered the ratlines and the flight of Nazi capital, technology and personnel in some
detail. You may find it interesting!

Peter Levenda : Coast To Coast AM - November 9, 2014 The Nazi Diaspora http://youtu.be/2Tn5hf1wKlE?t=41m39s

The Necronomicon & Government Occult True Believers with Peter Levenda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PakY...

8 Oct 2014 - Ep.133 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ Peter Levenda, Secret Space
Program LIVE on air https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XY6eA...

Peter Levenda : Sinister Forces : http://projectcamelot.org/peter_leven...


Peter Levenda came to our notice as the author of the powerful, compelling, and well-researched
Sinister Forces. This trilogy explores the unsavory links between the Nazis, the occult, mind control
and modern American politics, and asks deep and uncomfortable questions about what forces
underlie and may control global events.Peter Levenda was researching the Nazi connection to
American politics and secret societies as early as the Nixon administration, and he summarized
his findings in a highly regarded book called Unholy Alliance. Currently, Jim Marrs, Richard Hoagland
and Joseph Farrell are among those also involved in researching these same dark forces that surfaced
in our everyday lives during the administration of George W. Bush, and which remain as an important
question for the direction of this country with the newly elected Barack Obama.

We feel fortunate to have stumbled upon Peter Levenda's impeccable research, which connects the
dots between the agenda of the Illuminati, the Nazi influence within black projects and the US
government, and the role of the occult and mind control in what is becoming the new world we are
living in where the very foundation of freedom is being attacked and curtailed, threatening our
humanity at every juncture.

Interviews and Reports & Archive : http://projectcamelot.org/interviews....

Camelot Library index : http://projectcamelotportal.com/camel...

source Project Camelot : http://projectcamelotportal.com

Video Lecture Peter Levenda: Secret Space Program Conference Amsterdam 3-4-2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DV6MVs...

Article info : Peter Levenda, Richard Dolan, Dr. Joseph P. Farrell & Linda Hunt
http://www.worldtruth.org/blog/987/pe...

Dr. Joseph P Farrell - The Nazi International IUFOC 2009 : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list...

Peter Levenda, Joseph P. Farrell, Richard Hoagland ,Jim Mars
interviews last 12 months with Peter Levenda: Interviewed by Tracy R. Twyman , Joseph P. Farrell & Peter Levenda ,
Jim Marrs & Joseph P. Farrell , Hoagland Farrell ---------- Playlist URL : http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list...

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Previous to the above vids Bill and Kerry did a 3 part interview with Richard
Hoagland which is part of this subject . Richard has gone out of fashion recently
but he is still a stalwart of the alternate community whether you believe his
info or not.

Project Camelot Interviews Richard Hoagland - Part 1 of 3

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Dark Mission (Part 1 of 3)
Albuquerque, December 2007

Project Camelot Interviews Richard Hoagland - Part 2 of 3

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Project Camelot Interviews Richard Hoagland - Part 3 of 3

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Tangri
10th April 2015, 22:32
Maybe my below statement is vague but I do not want to create another argument with details.

Germans lost WWII , Nazis did not. They were management group,(new religion) relocated and practised in Americas.(south and North) You can find their finger print on corporates' management policies.

sigma6
10th April 2015, 23:26
holy mackerel


p.p.s. why would ETs favor the poles:

~ pure water on most planets can be found in polar ice
~ less visible launches and landings
~ no more reasons needed lol

Energetic fields... (as per David Wilcock research... is one of the places where DNA spontaneously comes into our dimension, it was a published and [not so] famous National Geographic study that could have completely turned the world of Darwinina Evolution completely on it's head, but instead was almost completely hidden and buried, i.e. only printed in a small space on their website, and not printed at all in their magazine (how quaint...) was verified by me and a friend at the time (who had a recent subscription to NG at the time.... otherwise it would never have come to light (or the implications) if it weren't for David explaining and mentioning it...


btw I like the Hoagland Part 2 video cover pic above. He is in fact really confirming Jay Weidner's theory that Stanley Kubrick did use that cutting edge (at the time) 3M screen technology process, the same one used in the making of Space Odyssey 2001... I wonder what Hoagland would say today?... (surely he if he can make the leap to a giant invisible glass building structure he could conceptualize a much more higher probability with more supporting evidence, a more parsimonious explanation (multi mirrored 3m screen that Kubric used... ;-0 ...

ghostrider
11th April 2015, 00:31
the plejaren gave information about this to Edward Meier -http://www.futureofmankind.co.uk/Billy_Meier/Giza_Intelligences

Cidersomerset
11th April 2015, 00:40
Maybe my below statement is vague but I do not want to create another argument with details.

Germans lost WWII , Nazis did not. They were management group,(new religion) relocated and
practised in Americas.(south and North) You can find their finger print on corporates' management policies.

Its basically right , but there are many layers like an onion , in all wars and political manipulation the outer layers
are the innocents and objectors , then there are the mass's and as Goering and many others before and since
right up to the mainstream news tonight in the Middle East , all this can be manipulated from which ever view
point you are coming from as George Bush jnr said after 9/11 " You are either with us or against us " ....
https://leftymathprof.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/goering_quote1.jpg?w=663&h=314
The next layers are the 'patriots' and military who follow orders out of a sense of duty , honour, defending
faith , family country or fear of not complying etc. This is how the population is controlled by propaganda,
media control . In war the first casualty is truthhttps://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/6b/d0/de/6bd0de369cfbdd95d616a08123e4fd49.jpg

Next comes the mil ind complex's and the creating and feeding the war machine from swords & spears
to guns and missiles , which peaked during WW1 &WW11 and continued into the cold war and is now
so power full wars and conflicts have to be manufactured to keep them going and the 'war on terror'
is the latest conflict and a bigger fear meme has been playing in the media over the past decade demonising
China , Russia and Iran again to be able to design , plan and procure the bigger items missiles , plane ,tanks
and nuclear strategic weapons which cost trillions of $ 's.

Then comes the elite class's , high command , politicians, Banksters etc who make policy and can afford the
shares and take the bigger slice of the financial pie , backhanders , insider trading , cronyism , blackmail etc
its from these class's you get to the chosen ones that end up President or Prime minister thru Bilderberg
and other organisations.

There are many others but you can get the idea . Then speculation is that a group of ancient family bloodlines
have come down thru the centuries possibly with ET connections that really manipulate events and agendas
and like the ancient gods looking down from mount Olympus they play their games , possibly to feed on
energetic chaos which they thrive on. If not its just a bunch of evil humans who like power and bloodshed .

That ties in with the original statement although the axis countries lost the war , and most came out
poorer except the US mil ind complex 'The Arsenal of the free world ' . Though all countries paid in
blood and death. The fact many NAZI's escaped or were co-opted into various countries military or
science programmes has the hand of puppet master behind the scene. This is where we seem to be again
many people waking up and we are not the first generation , there have also been revolutions all thru
history up to today and 'one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter '.

The problem is these families who run the world have ties globally, also probably in China and Russia
so a lot of this is just a giant game of monopoly for resources , influence and power. Which seems
to go around in ' economic cycles' and leading to history constantly repeating itself to varying degrees.

Again if this is not the case , when the world could easily feed , clothe and house everyone , some one
is constantly stopping this from happening thru greed and profit , which leads to conflict , war
blood shed and the cycle continues until we the people stop it.

There is a percentage of people who commit violence and people are killed everyday for all sorts
of reasons , but war and media control is the one that keeps the mil ind complex's around the
world going. This is one of those paradox where the solution is simple , but implanting it is not
for all sorts of reasons......Uhm ! that answer was longer than expected , and still not the whole
picture , I think I have watched to many vids today ..LOL

Elainie
11th April 2015, 01:15
Maybe my below statement is vague but I do not want to create another argument with details.

Germans lost WWII , Nazis did not. They were management group,(new religion) relocated and practised in Americas.(south and North) You can find their finger print on corporates' management policies.

Yes, I was married to the son of SS officers who were relocated to Argentina after the war. From there came what I think was a rather magical corporate success ( metal castings for defense and aerospace) between the 2 Nazi brothers (both became wealthier than Michael Jackson at the time MJ was at his wealthiest- quite unusual).

I am also not so sure there wasn't a breeding program between the German Nazi's and the Nordic ET faction. My ex looked nothing like his father, brothers and UFO researchers would walk up to me and say, gee he looks Pleiadian or gee he looks Nordic. Indeed he did.

lucidity
11th April 2015, 02:03
Hello Siblings,

Are there any google earth, satellite pics of these 'warm' oases in the antartic ?
We have the co-ordinates, right ?
So it should be possible to pull up satellite pics.
If there are no pics of unfrozen lakes or lush green forests.... what does that mean ?

Thanks to anyone that can assist with answers to these questions.

be happy

lucidity :-)

ghostrider
11th April 2015, 03:28
the story stems from long ago before the Nazis ... ET's came here , set up Atlantis and Mu , built huge stone cities on every continent ... peace lasted 1,800 years until the old lust for power and control once again tried to take control of Earth but , the peoples having tired of war rose up against them , the scientist fled in spaceships to far away worlds , extended their lifespans , returned to Earth , battled Atlantis and Mu until they destroyed them , then used religion to enslave the planet , forcing humans under the central control of Arus the forefather of Jehovah , part of this group developed spirituality , and decided to leave the Earth experiment ( new humans) to the course of evolution and they returned to the pleadies where they live in peace with the plejaren to this day ... the splinter group the Giza intelligences set up a base under the great pyramid where they used Hitler to further their agenda to control the entire planet ... the plejaren have defeated them and removed their base and all technologies around 1978 ... in 1982 they traced their off world base to the other side of Andromeda on a small planet , where a few scientist hid ... their base was dissolved into pure energy and the overlords were imprisoned on a distant world with no technology , and the planet was sealed hermetically and is guarded by the plejaren , no chance of escaping ...

Matt P
11th April 2015, 11:06
Hello Siblings,

Are there any google earth, satellite pics of these 'warm' oases in the antartic ?
We have the co-ordinates, right ?
So it should be possible to pull up satellite pics.
If there are no pics of unfrozen lakes or lush green forests.... what does that mean ?

Thanks to anyone that can assist with answers to these questions.

be happy

lucidity :-)

Lucidity, it wasn't long ago that ALL polar satellite images were classified. It is very difficult to get images and I would suspect if you were able they would be heavily censored.

Matt

Bill Ryan
11th April 2015, 13:04
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A little more about this.

1) Do please see this thread, posted on 2 February this year (2015):

News: Military flyer saw “huge Antarctic polar hole/entrance” in No-Fly zone (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?79518-News-Military-flyer-saw---huge-Antarctic-polar-hole-entrance---in-No-Fly-zone)

This was no dubious story invented by some kid in his bedroom, but was an in-depth report from highly respected researcher Linda Moulton Howe. It has to be taken very seriously. Do read.

2) Also, if you look closely at the 2008 Project Camelot report BASE NEW BERIN (http://projectcamelot.org/base_new_berlin.html) (and there's a LOT of stuff to read), you'll see towards the end of the report the young German man who describes his almost unbelievable experiences, ended up presenting a mathematical thesis that was way above my pay grade (I have a degree in math, but apart from seeing that it was real, it was beyond my understanding). (Carmody (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/member.php?981-Carmody)?? :) )

I referred the material to a world-class mathematical physicist who was a Camelot follower, and he said that it was indeed very real, and seemed to be an unknown advancement of Heim Theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heim_theory

Go figure. So the very advanced math is real (do look, and my invitation to Carmody to take a look is not a joke — for newer members, Carmody is one of our most intellectually gifted friends here)... and seems in to be in some contrast to the simple and almost naive way in which the Antarctic experiences are presented (although the entire account is an imperfect English translation).

Orph
11th April 2015, 15:02
Are there any google earth, satellite pics of these 'warm' oases in the antartic ?



Lucidity, it wasn't long ago that ALL polar satellite images were classified. It is very difficult to get images and I would suspect if you were able they would be heavily censored.

MattYou seem to be right. I decided to google earth and look at Antarctica. And indeed, there is a huge perfect circle pretty much in the center of the continent that has been digitally modified in some way. It's clear as a bell to see that what is shown is not really what is there.

ThePythonicCow
11th April 2015, 22:21
I referred the material to a world-class mathematical physicist who was a Camelot follower, and he said that it was indeed very real, and seemed to be an unknown advancement of Heim Theory.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heim_theory
A google search for Farrell, Joseph "heim theory" burkhart heim cramp will bring up some of (not all of) pages 313-329 from Farrell's book "The Philosopher's Stone: Alchemy and the Secret Research for Exotic Matter" (https://books.google.com/books?isbn=1932595406), in which Farrell presents what he has learned of Heim's theory.

WhiteFeather
11th April 2015, 23:19
Awesome....Seems alot of the proverbial pieces to the puzzle are affixed here now Bill with respect to Hitler and Antarctica. Splendid stuff Bill. Bravo. ;)

Carmody
12th April 2015, 00:01
Maybe my below statement is vague but I do not want to create another argument with details.

Germans lost WWII , Nazis did not. They were management group,(new religion) relocated and practised in Americas.(south and North) You can find their finger print on corporates' management policies.

The Nazi high command was not present at the German surrender of WWII, and never did formally surrender.

K626
14th April 2015, 22:19
Maybe my below statement is vague but I do not want to create another argument with details.

Germans lost WWII , Nazis did not. They were management group,(new religion) relocated and practised in Americas.(south and North) You can find their finger print on corporates' management policies.

We might even call it a brand. ;)

I'd be interested to hear a little more reg the 'finger print'....

Tangri
15th April 2015, 00:02
Maybe my below statement is vague but I do not want to create another argument with details.

Germans lost WWII , Nazis did not. They were management group,(new religion) relocated and practised in Americas.(south and North) You can find their finger print on corporates' management policies.

We might even call it a brand. ;)

I'd be interested to hear a little more reg the 'finger print'....

I felt lucky, you didn't ask "was(is) it only one new religion?"

With this thread, Bill(our) intended to point out neutral land Antarctica. I did not want to pollute it, with Nazi's fallowers asylum.
Unlike the manipulated history, not only jews were suffered from Nazi's bully. Also (heavily) Germans were the victims.(your answer locates in Why and How question you will reach Who question, if you find the answers, it would be similar to mine). If you are sincere in your curiosity you will be satisfied.

On the other hand, if you are looking for fast quote, you do not need this answer for your evolvement.

What you are asking is, look like a simple question but needs very hazardous info to come out. No need to publish new data for unintended eyes, It is not in internet and written news , I can not provide a link or previous testimony which will produce a candidate for a target, then I will have a motion, like our ex member Corey's cry.

Tangri
15th April 2015, 00:11
Maybe my below statement is vague but I do not want to create another argument with details.

Germans lost WWII , Nazis did not. They were management group,(new religion) relocated and practised in Americas.(south and North) You can find their finger print on corporates' management policies.

The Nazi high command was not present at the German surrender of WWII, and never did formally surrender.

Good catch,