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Kulapops
17th November 2010, 11:45
Hi All,

I know there is a big fight going on for the truth and all that. But practical as I am, I think there is so much more we can do around our own lives before even worrying about what's outside the front door.

Take the humble microwave for example. I mean, do you? Take the humble microwave? Do you use one?

* EDIT - For a bit of fun, here's a poll, just so you know I've not hidden the voters. I think it would be fun to see our Avalonian habits. Might be some surprising votes there ! *

I've never trusted the blighters, my Physics teacher once said to me a great law of Physics , 'You don't get owt for nowt !' (something for nothing) . So I was well wary of these things when they first appeared. Man.. I was wary of the oven chip! :)

I found a great article on them a while back, sadly don't have a record of that one, but until I find it.. this one's a doody. Sorry it's so long... but pass it on to anyone who loves their microwave (and their health)

http://www.health-science.com/microwave_hazards.html

And if you're worrying about Alien landings while cooking "chicken-ding"

(that's Chicken in a Microwave to you ;) )

Well, I have to tell ya.. the micro is gonna git you first...

K

BrianEn
17th November 2010, 12:15
I have one and I use it often.


Here's an interesting tidbit of information. When I lived in a motel. My microwave was inbetween my computer and the motels wi-fi antenae. Everytime I used the microwave I would lose the wi-fi signal during the cooking time. As soon as the mic dinged, I would get the signal back.

rhythm
17th November 2010, 12:46
and who knows what else ... me i not havin ( nuked food ):suspicious:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/483/screenshot024x.png

Kulapops
17th November 2010, 13:11
I worked in a cafe for a while, that made lovely 'home made' food.

What really distressed me was how much of this stuff was part cooked and then finished off in the microwave and on to your plate.

Even the desserts. Bread and butter pudding ? 4 mins Chocolate brownie ? 40 secs to get it a bit guey.

Even the 'fresh' fish which looked as if it had been grilled when on the plate, was taken out of the freezer, ran under a tap for a while, then nuked in the micro. And what microwaves too ?! We had four, in various states of functioning. Sure, they worked, but they looked more ancient than Maccu Piccu

Elandiel BernElve
17th November 2010, 13:25
Hey there,

I've got a combi micro-wave but rarely use the microwave option.
Mostly use the heated air oven function.

morguana
17th November 2010, 13:56
I have one, but it's not used to cook food, I use it to hide cakes from my son ;)
Can't remember last time I used it to alter the molecules of our food, hate the things but is defiantly a good hiding place for all naughty yummy food I don't want to be nibbled at. That and sterilizing my moon cup, lol
M

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Haha kula you put the cake hidey place as an option! You know me well :hug:
M

Lost Soul
17th November 2010, 13:57
Don't own one myself and I heat stuff on a pan, in a pot or in the toaster oven.

Richard
17th November 2010, 14:02
We ditched our home microwave a year ago, we don't miss it much. Food tastes much better when cooked in a regular oven btw.
The only thing we miss is the defrost function but there's other ways to thaw meats etc. we do use the one in the shop to reheat coffee though.

HORIZONS
17th November 2010, 14:20
I spent over 10 years in the food and beverage industry, and if you ever go out to eat you are most likely eating microwaved food of some sort. There are very few restaurants that do not use a microwave to heat or even partially cook your food. I use one on occasion to re-warm food-stuff. In the polluted world in which we live in today, where everything has its hidden dangers if you are willing to look, I don't see a problem with it. Heck - what is safe nowadays? Even if you cook safe, is your food safe? - how about your water, or the air you breath, or all the microwaves coming from all the towers all around you, or...? you get the point!

JoshERTW
17th November 2010, 14:27
Only use it to defrost and reheat - never to actually cook

Using the oven to reheat uses insane amounts of energy, and even though we have a relatively new oven, its pretty expensive to use on a regular basis.

That being said my preferred cooking method is open flame (BBQ... NOM NOM NOM) - unfortunatley this method is not as feasible when the BBQ is buried in several feet of snow.

illuminate
17th November 2010, 15:14
I have one, but it's not used to cook food, I use it to hide cakes from my son ;)
Can't remember last time I used it to alter the molecules of our food, hate the things but is defiantly a good hiding place for all naughty yummy food I don't want to be nibbled at. That and sterilizing my moon cup, lol
M

Ha, same here... well I have no kids, but I use it to hide cakes from myself :p
And I mostly use it as a bread box, but I never plug it in.

:love:

truthseekerdan
17th November 2010, 15:30
I spent over 10 years in the food and beverage industry, and if you ever go out to eat you are most likely eating microwaved food of some sort. There are very few restaurants that do not use a microwave to heat or even partially cook your food. I use one on occasion to re-warm food-stuff. In the polluted world in which we live in today, where everything has its hidden dangers if you are willing to look, I don't see a problem with it. Heck - what is safe nowadays? Even if you cook safe, is your food safe? - how about your water, or the air you breath, or all the microwaves coming from all the towers all around you, or...? you get the point!

You got that right, Horizons. I used to work in the RF Testing Compliance (FCC, CISPR, etc.), and can tell you that a cellphone is actually more 'dangerous' than a microwave oven.

sjkted
17th November 2010, 15:47
I don't own a microwave.

--sjkted

Ba-ba-Ra
17th November 2010, 17:30
Just a thought (now don't jump all over me- unless you're male, rich and like older women, ha!):

We know placebos work, right? - because the mind is very powerful. Most of us are familiar with Dr. Emoto's theory of changing molecules with love thoughts. So ?!? I think you see my point. I'm not promoting the use of a microwaves, although I use one occasionally for heating. But as someone earlier in the thread said: there is so much pollution that we eat, breath, etc.

But if we activate our belief system of mind over matter and bless our food before eating, filling it with love, then knowing we are great alchemists believe it is so. Yea, magic!

conk
17th November 2010, 17:37
I believe everyone is missing the point and that's what microwaves do to the food. Many studies have shown that microwaves destroy up to 90% of the nutrient value. Conventional cooking also destroys nutrients (and more importantly, enzymes!), but not nearly as much.

An old website called Nexus had an article about Russian research that clearly showed how microwaves mangle the food and create strange compounds.

Also, search on mercola.com for his negative opinion of microwave ovens.

As a confirmed and proud health nut I'd have to say, stay away from them and eat most of your food raw.

Banshee
17th November 2010, 17:50
just as white noise.

Phil
17th November 2010, 18:17
Hi Avalonian's
I would like to throw in my opinion, from a perspective of someone being associated with Radio Frequency devices, and users, all my life. I am NOT a radio Amateur (HAM) nor a scientist, just an observer. I have always been very worried about the amount of RF we are all subjected to. in the form of High power electrical cables, tv and Radio stations cell phones and generally just living in cities, I was always told by an old friend of mine to be very careful of frequencies >700 Mhz and above 10 watts of power, the dosage of RF can be harmful. NOW! I have never known anyone to actually get hurt or have any harmful effects, BUT! how many times have you read about people that live close to or under High Tension Power lines and cancer cells in an around the elecectrical towers. Most of these tests and trials rarelly find a conclusive yes or no, BUT! I would like to bring this to your attention, I believe there is something in peoples make-up that makes these people susceptible to Cancer from these devices, surely you have heard people say, I have to stop using this cell phone, I get bad headaches, it's really quite often.
So in closing, I would like to say I use ALL devices >700 Mhz sparingly, and stand well back while I use my microwave oven.

Thanks for reading this.

Kulapops
17th November 2010, 18:47
lol love the responses! Especially the four Avalonians who have openly admitted dosing their mother in law :)

With my telecoms hat on... before you get your knickers in a fry.. worrying about cellphone towers.. I'd remind you of the inverse square law. That states that the radiated power is inversely proportional to the distance squared 1/r2. So at 2 metres you have one quarter the power and at 10 metres one hundredth.

So yes, you're quite right to say mobile phones are much more hazardous, because they are very close to your skin. (So please call me on my landline peeps!) However, there is another factor about microwaves which is different to other electro magnetic frequencies. they use a particular microwave frequency (I think it's about 2.1 GHz) which is the resonant frequency of water.

You seen those videos of bridges collapsing when wind hits them just right? well this is what that particular frequency does to any water/moisture molecule. It sets it moving in motion. It is this movement that causes a friction with neighbouring matter/food molecules and it is this heat which then is conducted into the solid matter of the food, warming it up.

As far as I know, mobile phones don't use this frequency (although E1 links that carry calls between towers can be around 2GHz) 1800, 1900 Mhz region is common, but there can be harmonics of their main frequencies at this microwave level, in a smaller power.

Interesting though that with the increase in speed in computers, even parts of the humble desktop can be clocking around 2Ghz as well. Sure, it has nothing like the power of a microwave, or cellphone.. but remember the distance factor...

the intriguing fact with the microwave for me is that it can alter molecular structure during this vibratory process. Sure.. insome ways this is also true if you heat flour egg and milk in a pan.. this structure is going to change too.... but I get the feeling that with a microwave, the body no longer recognises the new molecule chains.

Sure.. bless the food by all means (a good idea if you eat in a restaurant I'd say!) ... but think how much more blessed the stuff will be if you baked it in the (normal) oven!

Ahkenaten
17th November 2010, 18:51
As I said on another post old microwaves are excellent storage vaults for electronic media such as disks and flash drives.............maybe even small computers if they will fit. They provide a shield against electromagnetic fields. Just cut off the electrical cord in back at the base.

freespirit
17th November 2010, 19:08
Hi All,

I know there is a big fight going on for the truth and all that. But practical as I am, I think there is so much more we can do around our own lives before even worrying about what's outside the front door.

Take the humble microwave for example. I mean, do you? Take the humble microwave? Do you use one?

* EDIT - For a bit of fun, here's a poll, just so you know I've not hidden the voters. I think it would be fun to see our Avalonian habits. Might be some surprising votes there ! *

I've never trusted the blighters, my Physics teacher once said to me a great law of Physics , 'You don't get owt for nowt !' (something for nothing) . So I was well wary of these things when they first appeared. Man.. I was wary of the oven chip! :)

I found a great article on them a while back, sadly don't have a record of that one, but until I find it.. this one's a doody. Sorry it's so long... but pass it on to anyone who loves their microwave (and their health)

http://www.health-science.com/microwave_hazards.html

And if you're worrying about Alien landings while cooking "chicken-ding"

(that's Chicken in a Microwave to you ;) )

Well, I have to tell ya.. the micro is gonna git you first...

K

hi kulapops

Yes I use one to warm up my tomato soup and when my cup of tea goes cold, as to the risks I would be more worried about mobile phones.
Below is an example of a number of videos on youtube which fuel my worries.I have never thought about the risks associated with using my microwave I will know thanks.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V94shlqPlSI
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1490878/cell_phone_popcorn_secret_revealed/

Lilitu
17th November 2010, 20:10
No microwave here. I've been off the grid for about five years so I originally dumped the micro and other high wattage appliances because they would use too much power. Turns out, my solar system would handle a 700 watt microwave just fine. But I'd never have a microwave again, just not convinced that they are safe. Yes, we are surrounded by health hazards for sure, many that we can't control or avoid but I figure it's smart to stay away from the dangerous or questionable stuff whenever I can.

I like the taste of food that's been cooked instead of "nuked" a lot better, I've learned to be better organized so that I can defrost things slowly in the refrigerator.

There's also something that's very hard to put into words but for me there is something satisfying and peaceful (?) about the slower pace of cooking when there's no microwave, no chiming, dinging, flashing machine that needs attention in seconds

By the way, back in the day, my mom used to defrost packages of chicken or beef on the countertop or in a bowl of cold water, yet no one ever got food poisoning. However, I did get food poisoning from some undercooked RESTAURANT chicken that was probably finished off in a microwave (but it cured me of eating out so all in all it was a good thing.)

Carmody
17th November 2010, 20:20
microwaves break the value (protiens, DNA stucture, etc) of the food down so it's not even with eating or consuming it. If fact, it's ultimately dangerous. A cancer driven game of Russian roulette.

shadowstalker
17th November 2010, 20:32
I have a nuker, but only use it to re-heat things, ya I know I should just do it in a pot, so yes I a guilty of using it cuz of laziness.
Oh and also when not using it or any appliance for long periods of times, just unplug it. trust me on that your electric bill will drop dramatically.

Ross
17th November 2010, 20:32
If I stand within 2mtrs of a microwave while running I feel the EMR's...pressure behind the eyes and a general weirdness...same goes when I drive past a power station and am anywhere near lightening...so no, I dont use a microwave.

I cook on Gas..cant beat it!

Regards

Ross

Humble Janitor
17th November 2010, 20:43
I have one but currently, I'm only using it to heat hot dogs. I don't really use it for anything else at this point. I suppose I should unplug it then. Hmm.

Banshee
17th November 2010, 20:58
http://j-walkblog.com/index.php?/weblog/posts/meat_slurry/

Chris411
17th November 2010, 22:17
According to the studies performed on water by the japanese author and entrepreneur Masaru Emoto (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masaru_Emoto), expressing Love and Gratitude to water, and through extension to food which contains typically also water, may cancel the damaging effects of microwaves on water.

See the experiment performed by Masaru Emoto on the Q&A page of his website at http://www.masaru-emoto.net/english/ediary200712.html (together with pictures of the frozen water crystals with and without the loving words expressed to it) search by the keyword "microwave" on that page in order to find the mentioned question.

【Question】 Mr. James, USA, 33, teacher

What are the affects of a microwave on water and water particles in food?

【Answer】
Thank you for your question. Our institute is answering to your question. The experiment of microwave is introduced in Dr. Emoto’s book, Message from Water Vol. 2.


A: Crystal from distilled water heated in microwave for 15 seconds


B: Crystal from the same water above A but placed a sticker saying Love&Gratitude on the bottle and put in microwave in the same way

As the picture A shows, the water affected by microwave formed a very shocking crystal. However, the second water with sticker of Love&Gratitude formed a beautiful crystal. It is said that there’s influence of microwave on water but everything is in the relation of resonance. In stead of using with fear toward equipment that releases electric wave and in a way necessary for our life, we might need to use them with positive feelings like Love and Gratitude.

The question is whether this experiment makes the food prepared in a microwave oven safe.
I don't own a microwave oven and have never eaten food conscientiously prepared with one (possibly only when eating out).

Looking forward to your opinions.

Chris.

jeannacav
17th November 2010, 23:40
I just use a 10 inch iron skillet.
Everything tastes better when I use this skillet, and I enjoy NOT washing lots pf pots.

jeanna

Arpheus
18th November 2010, 00:05
I have to use one daily at work to reheat my food so i can eat it warm.Lets face it where in america will you find any device other then a microwave to reheat your food at your working place?When i am home i reheat my food in the electric stove on a pan,i reheat my coffee on it at home as well,i am not going to go paranoid about it tho,there are so many other factors that are a lot worse or more harmful to your health in my opinion.I would love not to use one,but they aren't gonna put a stove at the lounge on my working place if i ask them to hehe.I don't use them to cook anything.

Carrera
18th November 2010, 00:35
I have a microwave, which I used to use a lot. But lately I read something that made me conclude its not good. ( Don't remember exactly what/where..read alot these days....) So the last couples of weeks I did only use it once. Now its storage for 2 flashlights, a half-broken mini-pc and an old mobile---just in case of a big solar flare... not that it would help if everything went down...but i would never know for sure now, would I? LOL Yeah I know! I'm weird!

Storage for old mobile, pc's and such should been a poll-option! :cheer2:

Connecting with Sauce
18th November 2010, 17:08
Those which chose the later option, you may find this site interesting, if not found already...

http://www.oneradionetwork.com/ there is a lovely article on there about microwave ovens and how toxic it makes the food...

Liver flush no.11 went well ;) google "flushing the toxic stones from within the liver" if you're unaware of that...

There are numerous things to try and avoid or minimise... A superb site here: http://www.whale.to/w/haz.html

I think a good strong immune system is key and the 80-20 rule...

Harley
18th November 2010, 21:04
and who knows what else ... me i not havin ( nuked food ):suspicious:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/483/screenshot024x.png

And here I thought all along that these symptoms were a result of growing old! LOL!

Consume Store Purchased Food = Cancer = You Die

Or:

Go To Doctor = Chemo and Radiation = Cancer = Spend All Your Money = Stress and Depression = You Die

Conclusion: Don't Worry Be Happy! :)

Sarahmay
19th November 2010, 00:38
Yes, just to reheat...but I push the button and run out of the room until it is done. As for the food, I think it is just fine, I just don't like to stand in front of the wave.

Czarek
19th November 2010, 03:04
for those of you who are choosing to use "GAS" to reheat your food and water, you may what to investigate the effects of the "stuff" that stays in your home if it's not vented properly.
But here's a solution to growing all the fresh air you need to offset the effects of burning fossil fuel in your home.
http://www.ted.com/talks/kamal_meattle_on_how_to_grow_your_own_fresh_air.html
PS. I use GAS:o

Celine
19th November 2010, 13:10
i know this isnt for everyone but..

Cooking with solar energy seems like an interresting alternative

http://knowledge.allianz.com/nopi_downloads/images/solar_cooking_monk_q_2.jpg

jiix
20th November 2010, 09:14
I remember using one after school a lot back in high school for snacks and such. But untill just now I never thought about it but I have one and never use it. But I very much enjoy cooking, and eating very healthy, so I cook all my own food and make meals from scratch.

Converting my small deck outside my condo into a small garden this summer :D

onawah
20th November 2010, 11:01
I use the microwave in my duplex, which was here when I moved in, for storing my waffle iron and egg poacher in. I do not turn it on at all, having read about the unidentified substances it creates in food. And I just don't like the energy. It's yet another technology that was not researched sufficiently before it was unleashed upon the unsuspecting public.

Mu2143
20th November 2010, 15:02
Look it at it this way there are only 2 ways in the universe that's Destroying or Co-creating and that makes spiritual science so simple.
If it kills you in a view seconds its a weapon if not a poison or a slow poison.

We look at our first trial what would happen if someone sticks his head in a oven that is set lets say on 100 degree Celsius and see what will happen.
Do the same thing with a Microwave oven what would you think!!!
I just need a mobile free energy power source ,creative thinking and nobody wants to be my enemy!!!

You do not need to look very far if something is good for you or not.

steven69
27th January 2011, 13:09
Our family has recently dumped our microwave due to the damage we realised that they do to the food and significant nutritional loss.

After a few days of having to think ahead about making sure that anything frozen was defrosted naturally in good time and getting used to re-heating on the stove top we haven't looked back since!

We find that being without one now is another important piece of the jigsaw in our review of eating habits etc. and appreciation/love of food and coming from a guy who used to love zapping leftovers on a daily basis that is a significant turnaround and proves that it is never to late to learn in life!

Norsec
27th January 2011, 13:30
I've never thought about this.
The funny thing is... i have one but don't use it.
Thank you for the hint...

Off-Topic:
Did you know about the risk with teflon pans?

Dennis Leahy
27th January 2011, 13:46
I quit using mine when I read about the alteration of the molecular structure of the food, creating nasty, carcinogenic compounds. I had known for years that reheating oil makes "free radicals", and made me realize that something like french fries was not just fattening, but also giving us a large dose of free radicals. Microwaves make free radicals too.

I should not post this, as it is at this point just a rumor, but I was told that if you microwave water, seeds will not sprout in it. I actually doubt that is true, but have not tested it. Anyone have some alfalfa or mung bean seeds and want to try a quick experiment with regular tap water, microwaved (and cooled) and right out of the faucet as a control?

Dennis

Shinako
27th January 2011, 13:55
I just wouldn't use one. Exposing food to radiation of the intensity found in microwaves de-natures proteins, breaks up food on the molecular level and turns yummy food into non-food.

Spending an extra few minutes heating food on the hob or in the oven, and being organised and defrosting meals overnight is not that inconvenient for me.

HURRITT ENYETO
27th January 2011, 13:58
Microwave for cooking? i've never heard anything so ridiculous,they are for shielding electronics from electromagnetic pulses :)
No seriously,i HATE using them but have to admit i am always letting my Coffee get cold and use it to reheat (nothing quite like Radioactive Coffee to wake you up in the morning) But don't worry its decaf.LOL (not really)

granny
27th January 2011, 14:06
and who knows what else ... me i not havin ( nuked food ):suspicious:
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/483/screenshot024x.png

Guys ... we live in a veritible sea of electromatic fog ... increasing daily ... cannot be condusive to clear thinking.

ps: I still love my wi-fi

Gran

granny
27th January 2011, 14:11
I worked in a cafe for a while, that made lovely 'home made' food.

What really distressed me was how much of this stuff was part cooked and then finished off in the microwave and on to your plate.

Even the desserts. Bread and butter pudding ? 4 mins Chocolate brownie ? 40 secs to get it a bit guey.

Even the 'fresh' fish which looked as if it had been grilled when on the plate, was taken out of the freezer, ran under a tap for a while, then nuked in the micro. And what microwaves too ?! We had four, in various states of functioning. Sure, they worked, but they looked more ancient than Maccu Piccu

There is a reason we use the term ... "nuke it."
Not saying I do not use mine some, I do.
We try our best to be prepared. We grow our own food in the summer ... one problem ... no milk, eggs and bread will grow there, we take supplements (at least until Codex gets finalized) ... in other words we try to do what we can ... so I don't feel too bad if I nuke a leftover or two.

Jendayi
27th January 2011, 14:28
I haven't touched a microwave for a long time..
i also avoid (as much as possible) DECT, WIFI, UMTS frequencies and power stations.. when i get to close to these frequencies i break out a cold sweat... but that's also the case with people who carry strong negative vibes..
same with Coffee, MSG/E621 (also known as ve-tsin, used in every chinese restaurant across the globe, keeps you eating by disabling an enzym which gives you that "full" feeling) aspartame, fluoride, fast food, especially MC Donalds, i also avoid travelling by train, the power lines give of a frequency of around 50hz 24/7 which can cause imbalances in the nervous system and agitates my senses on a very subtle level (my experience in holland anyway, and others i've spoken with) and of course bottled water (did so before charles came up with it btw)
Good topic!

happyexpat
27th January 2011, 15:54
It's actually been about 4 years since we have used a microwave.

There's a built in one at the house, but we've never plugged it in and just use it to store extra dishes since there isn't a lot of cabinet space here.

What amazed me was the study that came out about how if you give a plant microwaved water for two weeks, it will die. If that doesn't change people's minds, I don't know what would.

Adam1983
27th January 2011, 15:59
i always try and use a pan or the oven to reheat food rather than using the microwave.. it can chemically alter the food and decreases nutritional value of the food, destroying important minerals and victims. It is also believed to increased to amount of cancerous cells in the body.

According to a website i found microwave use was banned in Russia in 1976....


how true that is im not sure..interesting never the less

Connecting with Sauce
27th January 2011, 23:08
no not for 4+ years

Lettherebelight
27th January 2011, 23:16
I've got one only because my significant other insists. I never use it. I read some research that after it's been microwaved, your body doesn't recognise the molecular structure as food.

str8thinker
27th January 2011, 23:37
I think it comes down to sensible use of microwave ovens.

We all know microwaving, by causing spot heating, reduces the vitamin content of heated foods. I prefer to steam vegetables on a stove steamer, though occasionally microwave frozen peas if I'm in a real hurry.

Microwaves are an excellent and reproducible way to cook rice, using a plastic microwave rice cooker. Great results every time.

Microwaving is good to thin chocolate sauce and other thick liquids that are difficult to dispense from their containers.

We prepare our pets' dinners in bulk, spoon them into meal-sized containers and freeze them. If they don't thaw quickly enough by being left out, microwaving slightly brings them to the desired temperature (warm). Particularly good for finicky cats.

Microwave leaks are unusual these days but it's easy enough to buy a microwave tester from an electronics shop if you're worried. Put the microwave in a place where the door does not face you directly when you work, if possible. As long as you do not stand too close, you have little to worry about as the radiation drops off with the square of the distance, as was mentioned earlier in another post.

Fina
28th January 2011, 01:00
Jendayi said:
"I haven't touched a microwave for a long time..
i also avoid (as much as possible) DECT, WIFI, UMTS frequencies and power stations.. "

Exactly!

Who all here is sitting on Wifi? Electric Clock / alarm next to the bed? Electric blanket on the bed? Cordless /DECT phones? TV & Satellite / Freeview in the bedroom/ in the house? Laptops on knees? Things left on Standby? Mobile Phone charging nearby?

http://www.bevolution.dk/pdf/BrainwavemodelBevolutionGB.pdf print off & give copies to family & friends.

Feel miles better, far less stressed & clearer headed since I 'de-electricfied my home :)

Lost Soul
28th January 2011, 01:03
Don't have a microwave in the house and I don't use the one at work. We have a convection oven. :)

9eagle9
28th January 2011, 01:13
I have one too, I don't use it. Not sure why I still have it? Probably just that conditioning not to toss out anything workable...dont' know. I don't even use it to hide anything with. If I need to dethaw i usually take it out in the morning. People claim that leaving meat out to dethaw causes bacteria overgrowth but forget that we hang meat deliberately and always have to allow certain bacterias to break down the protein fibers in it.. If something needs to be dethawed fast I put it on stone that is made for that purpose. Takes about a half hour. Works very well.... But coffee in the micro, popcorn...blah.

Norsec, are you speaking of the teflon leech through onto foods cooked in Teflon cookware? I've heard of it after the fact when i determined I wasn't using the stuff because it was so pissy-delicate-scratchable. The first time someone shrieks at you that your mishandling their frying pan, you get turned off the teflon stuff anyway.

Rosco1
28th January 2011, 02:01
I cook most of my food in my log burner.

Will be using a kelly kettle for a drop of the old rosy lea (probably get one off of ebay).

But tomorrow guess where the microwave is going ?

Yup you guessed it, a nice journey down to the rubbish dump!

You have a convert here! lol

Roman195
28th January 2011, 14:40
As a member of the US Army Signal Corp during the Viet Nam era I was officially trained as a 26V20. Don't thrown that microwave away, there's a galvatron, power supply and rudimentary wave guide in there. With these basics, a defensive device can be conjured up.

9eagle9
28th January 2011, 14:54
As a member of the US Army Signal Corp during the Viet Nam era I was officially trained as a 26V20. Don't thrown that microwave away, there's a galvatron, power supply and rudimentary wave guide in there. With these basics, a defensive device can be conjured up.

Well ...you have my attention now. What sort of defensive device? More please?

Rosco1
28th January 2011, 15:23
Well ...you have my attention now. What sort of defensive device? More please?

If you had 300 microwaves handy you could make a Megawatt-level Death Ray.
One wrong move and you could be leaving this earth quicker than expected!
So it helps if you know what you are doing.

Not sure it's a good idea to say where the info came from

9eagle9
28th January 2011, 16:10
Hey. I've always wanted a death ray. I'm not the person for that sort of project I'd evaporate myself, but I'd be willing to donate two unwanted microwaves to the cause. And watch...and encourage....

....from a safe distance.

Kulapops
28th January 2011, 16:17
300 Microwaves? :) Maybe when this poll gets 300 hits on 'no' we'll have enough to build one. That's hardly a secret weapon, though? Do you think the new weapon, the Megawatt level 'Death Ray' could be tuned at least to 'limp', or 'bit of a cough' ? Like the phasers in Star Trek.

Eddie Izzard explains...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbOC0uoKYtU

Glad you're all thinking about your health,

K

TWINNICK
28th January 2011, 16:43
As I said on another post old microwaves are excellent storage vaults for electronic media such as disks and flash drives.............maybe even small computers if they will fit. They provide a shield against electromagnetic fields. Just cut off the electrical cord in back at the base.

My thought exactly, thats why I didn't throw away my old mic wave (nuker) when it died. I cut the cord of at the base and will use it as a faraday cage when I think ol sol is going to chuck a cme at us LOL.

..Nick..

pinkfrost
29th January 2011, 21:42
i figure the kind of food i would zap is already dead. i rarely use it, though. do hide baked goods inside, ha! and i always unplug it when it's not in use. always.

Arrowwind
29th January 2011, 23:35
I admit that I haven't read this total thread so apologies if I am repeating someone

Most people do not understand fully why microwaved food is bad for them.

Food consists of fiber, fats, protiens, carbohydrates, vitamins, and phytonutrients.

When these substances are molecularly rearranged you get chemicals that are foreign to the human body.
Just nuke an egg and you will see what I mean... It is nothing like any egg you have ever eaten before till well done but not
burned. Just so the yoke is fully cooked.

Phytonutrients are as important and perhaps more fragile than some of the other ingredients, and all the others mentioned and are critical for maintaining homeostasis in a multitude of metabolic pathways. Microwaves will destroy the phytonutrients and render your food devoid of any kind of phytonutrient that is of value to the human body. They become foreign substances for human consumption

In the conventional health arena it is not permitted to give babies bottles with milk or formula that is nuked.... microwaved... the reason they give is that in the process hot spots are made in the forumula and the baby could be burned... and this is true, hot spots do form.

But really all you have to do is shake the bottle once or twice. Studies done in Russia have shown that nuked baby forumla contributes to babies not thriving... sorry, I no longer have links for this study... so in the US where microwaves are big business, this information has been repressed. and of course if a baby wont thrive with a nuked forumula neither will you if you nuke all your food... I believe that somewhere in the matrix this is known and accepted but the lie about the hot spots is promoted to keep babies away from damaged milk and formula.

Microwaves have been banned in Russia since their inception... and they are black market items... if you really really want one... you will find a way to get one and damage yourself.

Your food becomes more than dead, it becomes a foreign substance that the human race is not genetically prepared to eat.