Meet BALDRISHI. You know him as Clif High

[Bill Ryan]

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Folks, I read this on GLP with some interest.

http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1259058/pg1

Clif High has apparently been using the sockpuppet (alternate identity) baldrishi to smear those who he disagrees with - including yours truly.

Here's a sample of his posts over a period of time. I have highlighted those which are snide attacks against my or Kerry Cassidy's work. This is copied from 2/3 way down p.1 of the new GLP thread - which is rapidly growing.

If this is authentic (and please, anyone, let me know if it is not), then I've just lost every scrap of respect that I ever had for this very disturbed man.

For more details, please read the thread which is referenced. (http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1259058/pg1)

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the future history of mccain's death camps baldrishi 0 38 N/A 10/04/10
1:59 PM 10/04/10
1:59 PM
Deagle? baldrishi 4 203 N/A 07/03/10
12:03 PM 07/03/10
10:45 PM
let us not forget that the bible is a ripoff of the sumerian myths and christ did not exist baldrishi 0 54
(2 votes) 05/15/10
11:37 AM 05/15/10
11:37 AM
Not all Satanists are Masons, but all Masons are baldrishi 0 50 N/A 05/13/10
10:05 AM 05/13/10
10:05 AM
deagle sucks and spits baldrishi 2 103
(2 votes) 04/30/10
11:04 AM 04/30/10
11:09 AM
Synthetic freemasons and Kerry Cassidy of Project Camelot baldrishi 2 188 N/A 04/28/10
10:41 AM 04/28/10
11:01 AM
Dan Burish posing as a black man baldrishi 4 155 N/A 02/12/10
12:25 PM 11/12/10
10:37 AM
time travel not possible. Project came-lot gulibility baldrishi 0 51
(1 votes) 01/21/10
5:22 PM 01/21/10
5:22 PM
web bot clif dis'es PC and David wilcock and deagle baldrishi 18 575
(5 votes) 01/13/10
6:12 PM 01/14/10
3:34 AM
Bombshell: clif at web bot calls out bill ryan at projekt camelot baldrishi 23 642
(4 votes) 12/14/09
6:09 PM 12/15/09
2:34 PM
igor web bots says clif will memeering on rense tomorrow baldrishi 3 123
(1 votes) 12/09/09
4:37 PM 12/10/09
1:08 PM
Web Bot - Alternative Hypothesis 2012 doc released baldrishi 4 599 N/A 11/24/09
11:02 AM 11/27/09
2:33 AM
OhOH! Does not look good....Bot dudes, 11-3-2009
Page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 baldrishi 156 9,776
(11 votes) 10/21/09
11:45 AM 10/26/09
11:34 AM
dan burisch is a freakin moron baldrishi 0 59 N/A 09/06/09
2:55 PM 09/06/09
2:55 PM
Doom for Dan Burish at Zurich conference. baldrishi 0 188 N/A 07/11/09
9:48 PM 07/11/09
9:48 PM
For GOD and COUNTRY, GO GET YOUR VACCINATIONS baldrishi 14 192 N/A 07/11/09
5:57 PM 07/11/09
8:27 PM
Dan Burish Comedy Video at ProjeKt Kamelot baldrishi 6 196 N/A 07/11/09
12:13 PM 07/11/09
4:05 PM
web bot guys - wealth creation and the new salish baldrishi 0 98 N/A 06/21/09
4:06 PM 06/21/09
4:06 PM
Part 6 of the last web bot run (ALTA 1309). baldrishi 5 267
(1 votes) 05/25/09
5:06 PM 05/25/09
5:15 PM
Holy ****! Disappearances! Web Bots scary right again! baldrishi 3 335
(2 votes) 05/14/09
3:18 PM 05/14/09
3:58 PM
web bots vs earthfiles - new crop cirlce points to 2012 baldrishi 0 138
(2 votes) 05/10/09
1:52 PM 05/10/09
1:52 PM
crop circle swirlies on youtube baldrishi 4 207
(1 votes) 04/07/09
11:24 PM 04/08/09
12:11 AM
Swirly Thing Alert - Hidden Crop Circle Images affect body/mind baldrishi 14 542
(2 votes) 04/03/09
10:38 AM 04/04/09
3:55 PM
Hidden ET coms and how to decode - from web bot guy! baldrishi 3 277 N/A 03/31/09
4:36 PM 07/08/09
11:44 AM
Depression officially starts with the hanging bankers baldrishi 1 111 N/A 02/10/09
10:07 AM 02/10/09
10:14 AM
Web bots correct, just late - twin quakes affect 95000 baldrishi 1 152 N/A 12/28/08
1:12 PM 12/28/08
1:14 PM
web bot original 9/11 prediction (july 2001) baldrishi 9 452
(1 votes) 12/10/08
6:50 PM 12/12/08
2:56 AM
clif og web bots on beyondordinary radio baldrishi 13 443 N/A 12/08/08
2:48 PM 12/09/08
6:13 PM
web bot cliff on Rense tonight 9 to 10
Page 1, 2, 3, 4 baldrishi 93 3,846
(4 votes) 12/01/08
1:58 PM 12/03/08
4:05 PM
web bot clif on rebecca journey's show tonight at 6pm pacific time baldrishi 0 73 N/A 11/15/08
6:47 PM 11/15/08
6:47 PM
help from reverse speech guys baldrishi 4 106 N/A 10/26/08
4:30 PM 10/27/08
9:13 PM
Y'all be cowards! Just come out and say it! Obama is a baldrishi 14 188 N/A 10/22/08
6:59 PM 10/22/08
7:23 PM
FED reserve to return National Debt to US citizens. baldrishi 0 49 N/A 10/22/08
10:04 AM 10/22/08
10:04 AM
Doom Teaser: Web Bot special offer for listeners of Rense baldrishi 1 103
(2 votes) 10/20/08
8:15 PM 10/20/08
8:17 PM
new doom! Web bots on rense monday 9-10pm pst baldrishi 25 868
(1 votes) 10/19/08
12:08 PM 02/23/09
5:33 PM
how to rob 492000 euros from banks baldrishi 2 61 N/A 10/17/08
8:34 PM 10/17/08
8:44 PM
Web bot time monk on paranormal radio tonight baldrishi 14 836
(1 votes) 10/13/08
7:10 PM 10/13/08
10:32 PM
ANTHRAX emergency declared by US govt baldrishi 4 222
(1 votes) 10/07/08
1:35 PM 10/07/08
1:41 PM
ANTHRAX emergency declared by US govt baldrishi 0 47 N/A 10/07/08
1:34 PM 10/07/08
1:34 PM
ANTHRAX emergency declared by US govt
Page 1, 2, 3 baldrishi 61 1,992
(9 votes) 10/07/08
1:32 PM 10/22/08
5:29 PM
HOLY FLUCK! GOT BALLS! Just talked to web bot igor! baldrishi 10 554 N/A 10/06/08
7:11 PM 10/06/08
8:58 PM
Web Bot Time Monks on Rense tonight baldrishi 0 47 N/A 10/06/08
11:30 AM 10/06/08
11:30 AM
Crop circle decoded - actual map of planet baldrishi 5 534
(1 votes) 07/18/08
11:52 AM 07/18/08
11:13 PM
2 % of US is christian...christian churches use same math as gov't baldrishi 3 62
(1 votes) 05/14/08
9:29 AM 05/14/08
9:43 AM
how to REALLY win an argument with females baldrishi 13 345
(2 votes) 04/20/08
6:54 PM 04/20/08
9:20 PM
planet x seen in hollywood baldrishi 0 67
(1 votes) 04/16/08
10:41 AM 04/16/08
10:41 AM
Boycott ALL THINGS from America...they are a CRUEL goverment killing innocent Iraqis, Afganis, Pakistani, Palestinians, Cherokees, Souix, Crow, Salish baldrishi 17 247
(9 votes) 04/08/08
9:58 AM 04/08/08
2:03 PM
neighbors gonna walk baldrishi 14 337 N/A 03/25/08
2:40 PM 03/25/08
4:47 PM
in front of people, all gods are equal baldrishi 1 67 N/A 03/03/08
7:11 PM 03/03/08
7:14 PM
igor says baldrishi 0 69 N/A 03/03/08
6:41 PM 03/03/08
6:41 PM

[Kulapops]

Lol... I had a lot of time for the whole web bot thing... back along. George Ure's site read as a sensible credible view of the alternative news roundup. George with his shot of 'El Don' in the mornings reminds me a bit of our own Fred (best check those IPs !) . So it was through Ure's site I got to read about the 'credible' (at first sight) pseudo-science that is the Rickety Time Machine.

Sadly, there comes a time when all gurus fall off their 'ass'... and for me that moment came not only when the shootout started with our own nearest and dearest (Squabbles of any kind are enough to raise eyebrows)... but when he started building an unsinkable boat ! And taking pictures of it... and encouraging every one to do the same.

Lost....the....plot....

here we are nearly two years on from the Summer of Hell...and (like Diana Ross) I'm Still Waiting....

[all sing] oh-oh oh uh ohhhh

In fact it was this 'credible' Mother of All predictions that got me rattled the most (like..ooh.. if we're all so psychic... Assumption 1 and this guy has the right software... Assumption 2 and it really works... Assumption 3...and everyone else is syaing something's about to happen soon Assumption 4...well...ooh.. could turn nasty, better tell all my friends......) ...and turned me off predictions for good.

People love predictions. I was not alone. Why do you think there are Horoscopes in tabloid papers ???

I have Nothing against the guy, he sounds good in interviews and amenable..talks about basic things like Pie too...which is nice. I say live and let live... but as the saying goes, whatever floats your (unsinkable) boat...

K

[Banshee]

I would just interpet this jibberish nonsense as your proof of your growing popularity. No one with half a brain cell could read that garbage for more than a minute- if the twit has something to say, perhaps he ought to consider saying it clearly, so that humans can interpet it. He's a coward. History will judge you kindly. :)

[Ahkenaten]

Bingo! Maybe THAT is why Clif High was crying during his last interview. Crocodile tears perhaps?!

[Rocky_Shorz]

Wow the guy totally failed to predict anything right and he has the nerve to lash out at others?

[Ahkenaten]

Yes and so in his last radio interview he broke down into crocodile tears. He apparently knew he was about to be debunked and had "mixed feelings" about his other statements and activities. I REALLY hate it when people cry for themselves like that.

[cloud9]

Very sad indeed.... [I]I've been thinking that all of this fad (true movement or whatever name) it's just another Y2k, all 2012 ascencion, disclosure, reptilian and everything else it's a very well orquestrated BS.

I never read or listened to Cliff due to my not wanting to get involved in any doom and gloom, it goes for George Green and others too.

We need to change our consciousness and start believing that the fact that we are creating our reality is REAL lol, , we need a greater sense of hope and truly believe that we are able to go through everything life throw at us, isn't it already true for our daily lives?

If you think about all the possible dangers out there, CME, polar shift, ET invasion, nuclear war, deadly vaccines and illnesses, corrupt governments, mental control and so on (too many to count), how have we been able to survive so far? How despite of it all we still manage to raise our families and have a decent life?

Perhaps we should just focus in being better human beings and work for what we want while serving and helping others at the same time, no doubt the world would be a better place.

Anyway, just knowing that yet another guru or "expert" is less than honest makes me sad.

[bashi]

Our Prophet:

baldrishi
User ID: 312812
United States
3/27/2008 4:56 PM
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Report Copyright Violation Re: QUOTES - about religion - POST YOURS HERE!! Quote

"oh lord, protect me from your followers, for they be asses of no mind, and no account, but still capable of trampling down a good man in their blind rush to salvation (stampede)."


Why not:"I despise you human scum of non-believers, because i am one of the Chosen..."

[morguana]

Well I am very pleased to have missed all this past stuff, predictions and all, to be honest I have never bothered much by web bots (didn't have a clue what they were, untill recently), having led a rather non existent net life untill last year I have not read or intend to read these 'guru's' info (and that is kinda across the board as they say) What will be will be, I prefere to enjoy life and not fear it.
Bill this guy posting (who ever he is) obviously has no common decency, mud slinging in net land is a waste of energy and what goes around comes around, just don't concern yourself with such demeaning things. Chin up and do your own thing, that's all anyone can ever do, follow your heart :)
:wub:
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[Kulapops]

Looking at George Ure's site.. I found a link to Cliff's latest post on his own website. So these are Cliff's words. Make of them what you will

http://halfpasthuman.com/ukemiarts.html It's a bit rambly.. here's a snippet...

Being (pun intended) on the woo-woo path to enlightenment, i try to be respectful of all persons that universe may place in front of me. This ALWAYS includes those persons shunned or ridiculed by the main social body. As a self sovereign individual i find the majority view mostly incorrect, and very restrictive, so choose to ignore it. The most interesting people (expressions of universe) are not, in my experience, found in the main stream. What can i say, i live on the fringe. So admonitions of 'guilt by association' will probably follow me around as i continue to explore universe. Thanks for the energy, but such is the concern of others, not myself. Reputations are to be ruined. Mine no exception.


Yes, i did post on the GLP *(glupers...my label as i imagine they 'gulp' a lot as part of the emotional rush of their craving for DOOOOOOOMMMMM...) forum. Igor and i have some linguistic experiments on-going to determine what will be required in the way of processing to screen out our own impact on the language, if it is even possible at this stage. GLP is among our test bed sites. HPH and our shape reports have become so infamous that propagation and pollution of our data stream is a reality. We will be continuing the experiments over the next few weeks (assuming net is up, and there is some level of 'normality' out and about), and should have results in about a month.

Actually.. reading the bits... about 'my reputation' and 'I did post on the GLP... this may well be putting 2 + 2 to get 5.. as it sounds in context as if it's to do with testing... ! However... if he does frequent that site.. and he does post there....

[morguana]

Live and let live, thx for your findings, things are never as they seem are they?
At least in net land anyway (it's a bit of a free for all) in real life people can be more real

[Kulapops]

Exactly Morguana ! God knows what I'm like in real life ???

Sheesh !

;)

[Ahkenaten]

even so there is an important place for critical thinking and discernment..............especially in the wild wild world of the internet. As we move into a virtual reality where there is hopefully very little room for lying may we all be viewed by one another as One, in this new transparent world. Always the key issue is the answer to the question "what is the motivation" for a particular action or deed. Falsehoods must be debunked. Lying goes against the very fabric of nature and may be where the initial wrinkle or warp in human consciousness occurred (along with some kind of massive trauma hidden in our collective memory) that we have been suffering from ever since.

[Rocky_Shorz]

The problem is everyone's hunger for the answer...

Everyone that appears with insights are tossed up on a pedestal until they fall so another will take the place...

I just sit over here swinging in my Hammock under the big ol oak tree wondering who's up next...

[DawgBone]

People seem addicted to predictions. It reminds me of an addiction to gambling.

In the long run the gambler will lose and lose and lose. Simple math. But occasionally he will win, and the occasional wins keep him in the game. The same with predictions.

It's ironic, really. We all have precognitive dreams. Everyone. Most people ignore their dreams. If you are interested in the future, that is where to get your information.

[Ahkenaten]

yes what goes "up" must come "down" as they saying goes

[lunaflare]

it is easy to write that one tries to be "respectful" -baldrishi appears to be lowering the standard here- and i am sure his (half)past reflects this too...
We lash out when we feel threatened

I am not familiar with Clif's predictions; but have followed forums and discussions....seems dates and events do not really pan out.
it does not seem productive to focus on what is dire. I agree with many here that if this is the only focus, then this can be consciously created into experience...

I must say that i DO believe in the human spirit and that, for the most part, we are collectively growing into a deeper understanding of what it means to create from the heart; not from a place of fear and control. I think it ok to write that the bot is based on "fear".

Yeah Ankenaten, we do have "massive trauma" in our collective memory for sure...we also have the mighty will to create from a perspective that is no longer chained in victim mode...

[Kulapops]

lol.. exactly Rocky...

We can surely see a pattern... it's food for human emotions.. the human condition...

Predictions ? Horoscopes, Tarot...
Grand Seers? Kings.. leaders politicians et al
Things to look out for? The Bogeyman
Gossip ? Who is right ? who is wrong ? Who is Mad ?? Wuh-hah-hah-haahhh !
That inescapable feeling that something is not right in the world? We die...Get it?

how can anyone ignore this slight creeping feeling for long? Dress it up as FEMA camps and one world power... but this is the real root of most fears I would bet. Even to those who say they won't even notice it...

Mix that lot up together and you've enough material to keep people going for decades

[Ahkenaten]

Yes I agree that we must let go of the victim mode..................the victim mode amongst other memes, is what keeps us subjugated. We must rise up, free and clear. It may not even be necessary to go through collective psychological regression to re-experience and intellectually understand the precise trauma that caused the split or schism in our nature...........we must only realize that such has occurred and move on into integration. We must arise from our sleep walk and awaken to our true nature.

[Bea]

"Clif High has apparently been using..."
How do we know for certain it is Clif High?
Isn't it easy to masquerade as someone else on a forum?
What is posted on GLP doesn't square with the person he comes across as in interviews or his writings on HPH.

[Ahkenaten]

But wait - didn't Clif actually admit on his own website that he had been posting under that nom de plume at glp? That is what I remember but I could be wrong......

[HORIZONS]

Found this on the Mists...


Clif High finally DID get something right! DECEIVERS would be outed.....

http://www.themistsofavalon.net/news-views-f9/clif-high-finally-did-get-something-right-deceivers-would-be-outed-t1291.htm#23121

Clif once said there would be some reputations ruined and it could even be his.

Well, it just happened and he did it to himself.

On godlikeproductions.com he made a huge mistake and thought he would never get caught. Personally, I never trusted him due to his huge ego, outrageous claims and foul mouth.

And of course all his lies about doing the 'last' report, his 'last' interview or that his report was hacked and was 'somehow' made public.

Also the recent FAILED Nov 'tipping point' event that would be bigger than 9/11, blah, blah, blah.

Many of you already know my beef with Mel Fabregas on Veritas when he banned some of us for GETTING TOO CLOSE TO THE TRUTH.
In my case, I outed many of his so-called 'whistleblowers' or guests because I did my RESEARCH and stated FACTS.
Of course he claims I was a 'troublemaker' and 'caused' problems.......typical of these types.

Anyway, when I heard that Mel was interviewing Clif for 3 hours and for FREE......I knew something was up and that the BOTH of them were 'selected' to be on the same train of fake reporting.
It was to deceive the masses....AGAIN.

Clif admitted to posting at GLP and one member did a little research. Guess what?

Clif had been posting BOGUS, fear mongering, and self promoting posts since 2005!

The PROOF is all there and make sure you read all the things Clif the deceiver has written in the 3rd person.

SNIP: http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1259058/pg1

Meet baldrishi. You know him as Clif High.
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I didn't write all of this.
Clif High did. Maybe his wife in a couple of these.

Clif admitted on his site that he posted on GLP.
[link to halfpasthuman.com]

From the official web bot forum, he posted on this thread on GLP.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
That gives his user ID as 581357, and when I searched that ID, I hit jackpot.

Anyone can search this on their own with the above links and come up with what I did. Clif posts here as baldrishi. One or two times his wife posts under the same ID.

The thing that made me post was the thread he started here.
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
He talks about himself in the third person and gets XXXX started about his site being down. Yeah.

Search BOTH threads started by AND replies by user 581357.
I don't believe Clif is as ethical as I gave him credit for.

Prime example:
"halfpasthuman.com is gone. removed by ptb. no word from clif or george ure on what has happened. nothing but big black hole..."

Same user ID as Clif's admitted post on GLP. That's some pretty shameless self Xxxxxxxx promotion there.

This itself doesn't mean that Clif's work is bunk. It does however, put his ethics in question, in my opinion.

Go look and judge for yourself.

*****
Since I am banned at godlike (no surprise there) I cannot reply to this post below to tell the OP that I totally agree with her about Clif and Mel and to come here to read my thread about my experience at Mel's forum here.

We have to ask ourselves why SOME people are always promoted, give interviews all over the place and ASK for MONEY.

Of course we will have all his 'followers' trying to defend him as they refuse to SEE THE FACTS.....any wonder why we are in such a mess?'

If I could post over there, I would give this poster a thumbs up>
Cliff is nothing more than a shill for the NWO decieving us with TPTB's very own disinformation campaign as if he is of us.
What a owned punk.

11/17/2010 11:41 AM

Re: Meet baldrishi. You know him as Clif High. Quote
It's been painfully obvious for a while now that Clif is cribbing a large portion of his material straight off of GLP.
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1167045

^This^

Also, I was very disappointed in both he and Mel on the recent Veritas interview, where they discussed Obama's $200 million a day trip to India, which was completely untrue. To the best of my knowledge, neither one has since acknowledged that they - along with a whole lot of other people - were fooled.

You don't get to just go along and pretend nothing happened. You own up to your mistakes.

I really had high regard for the character of both Mel and Clif, and this saddens me.
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1259058/pg13

==

I heard he was going to do an interview with that "wild colleen" hybrid that is promoting herself everywhere as a sexual alien goddess who sells nude pics of herself.........that should tell you something more about Clif and his motives.

And let's not forget that Cilf has been a guest at voice chat at GLP........we already know who 'runs' GLP....


here are some of Clif's bogus threads at GLP someone found.........can't wait to hear his 'take' on this thread ...should be interesting.....



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ANTHRAX emergency declared by US govt
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ANTHRAX emergency declared by US govt
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Crop circle decoded - actual map of planet
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how to REALLY win an argument with females
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neighbors gonna walk
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in front of people, all gods are equal
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igor says
baldrishi 6:41 PM 03/03/08

=and others in 2005

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Now this makes me want to go hear Dr. Deagle and the rest that Clif hates so much........now that I know that he was always a liar.

He claims that there is no God....that says it all to me.

[Alan]

Wow, from poking around a little at GLP for a few minutes, the signal-to-noise ratio over there appears to be ZERO.

[Ahkenaten]

GLP is a quagmire of disinformation

[fifi]

Thanks for debunking Clif High. For a while I don't know what to make of Clif High, and decide to keep my mind open, and see if his predictions come true. His August predictions failed to come true, as well as his November tipping point, and now this thread really tips the scale.

[sargeist]

hph originanly came with a 'for entertainment purposes only' disclaimer. it was only after a rise in popularity that it was removed.

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edit to add - that being said, i should point out that glp is an arm of the tavistock institute.

[steve_a]

Hi Everyone,

And so it seems another one bites the dust. One by one they will auto destruct, not because we will eventually find an outright lie, but because they will slip up and be discovered actually digging their own grave.

Let us not forget that Cliff High was only doing a marketing stunt for his website, I have done the same in Yahoo! groups where I made up a topic which relates to my site and generate a discussion about the information that only my site has. That way, those influenced by the topic would search for the information on the net and hey presto! They fall onto my site. This is nothing new. However, with HPH being such a sensative subject matter, you only need to be got caught once doing any sort of marketing stunt and you will probably get ousted by the tight knit community. But as people have short memories, youride the storm and when the deluge passes, it's business as usual. Just check on the Blossom Goodchild thread.

Of course this leads us to come to the conclusion that many of the people in these circles are in it purely for the money - and there's nothing wrong in that - so we must be vigilant as to who is and who is just desperately trying to get a message out.

Soon we will be left with only a few real people who can honestly say that they know the truth and will tell it for the right reason....

Best regards,

Steve

[Bea]

Posted by Horizons
Default Re: Meet BALDRISHI. You know him as Clif High

Found this on the Mists...Also, I was very disappointed in both he and Mel on the recent Veritas interview, where they discussed Obama's $200 million a day trip to India, which was completely untrue. To the best of my knowledge, neither one has since acknowledged that they - along with a whole lot of other people - were fooled.

I listened to that i/view & was also disappointed when I heard both Clif & Mel say this (above). I knew it wasn't correct (or perhaps should say, believed the source of it's debunking) & thought their research very sloppy.

posted by Ahkenaten
Re: Meet BALDRISHI. You know him as Clif High

But wait - didn't Clif actually admit on his own website that he had been posting under that nom de plume at glp? That is what I remember but I could be wrong......

You could be right...I don't know either.

posted by Alamojo
Re: Meet BALDRISHI. You know him as Clif High

Wow, from poking around a little at GLP for a few minutes, the signal-to-noise ratio over there appears to be ZERO.

With a very great deal of verbal abuse and people slinging off at each other & anyone else. Is this divide & conquer at work?


It did strike as odd recently when George Ure mentioned Glen Beck a couple of times with regards to the Nov 14 tipping point & financial meltdown, suggesting that maybe Beck had some info from somewhere. Glen Beck?? Glen Beck??
I don't know & am not speculating what this may or may not mean on George's part, but I can't imagine I'd ever think of looking to Mr Beck for information, supposedly reliable or otherwise.


It's all a lesson & pointer to me to remember (once more) the times are full of all sorts of people with all kinds of barrows to push, to try not to judge them (very hard at times!) and that the best source of info is always waiting within when I turn from the world (always too fascinating) & others to tune into it again.
We do live in interesting times.

[Kulapops]

Another point that strikes me as odd, where people talk of imminent doom and collapse. Then you notice their website has been around for ten years. Jones, Ure, Icke at least fall into this category. OK... Icke is not so much of a doom prophet and his angle is different, but equally he has knowledge that sells at the end of the day.

It's all snake oil in various disguises. In Cliff's case, perhaps he'd do better rubbing it on his head.

So I'm glad Avalon is no longer subscription only ;)

[morguana]

Fear is what stunts growth, these people that peddle fear are not helping at all, and yes it is a money making scam imho
Sure it's good to know the other side of things and to look at other points of view, but these things can have a destabilizing effect on a persons centre, really folks if you want answers then go to that place within (meditation is one way) and download straight from the horses mouth (divine, universe, quanta, god what ever the name you give). The way is not in the sky, they way is in the heart ;) good old Buddha ;)
M

[Dale]

The way is not in the sky, they way is in the heart

Exactly right!

Within each of us is everything we'll ever need - and then some!

Now, with regard to Clif High's prediction; many years back, I was told by a well established psychic and intuitive a bit about the future. Half jokingly, I had asked "What the future will look like." She hadn't paused for hardly a second and replied "Much the same as it does now."

The point being; people will still fall in love, fall out of love, follow their dreams, give up on their passions, have hobbies, have fears, and much everything in between. Any "game changing" event may modify the stage in which we act; but the cast will remain much the same.

That is, no curtain calls just yet!

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

http://lucianarchy.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=9191

[Steven]

I always found Cliff High "project" as a non-representative tool to "watch" the mass consciousness of humanity for several reasons. I remember him being quite popular here and was always silently uncomfortable with his "web-bot".

First, because only a part of humanity uses the internet. Currently, it seems to be increasing, it used to be not much more than 10%, but now it's at 28% of the world population; http://www.internetworldstats.com/stats.htm How about the consciousness of the zulu or the dogon? Is it really present on the net? Of course not, the net is mainly used by the northern people.

Second, because a large proportion of the "sites" on the internet are not alternative media or the "voice of the people", but rather the same old fear based manipulation from the system, all the major 'news' media are on the net, all of them, so no wonder why the web-bot prediction are so dire and inaccurate.

Third, their will always be a real gap between the mass consciousness of the people and its "media". Communication limitation (words) are at the root of this inaccuracy.

Forth, we do not necessarily put on the net all that is in our consciousness. We tend to put in words our fear and passion. How many other state of mind aren't present on the net, but really are in the mass consciousness? All these little things that we find boring to share, but how much important in our life.

It isn't really of a surprise that the "truth" is coming out for the "web-bot" (Ethic is manifesting greatly :) ), but really we didn't need that to know this project wasn't good.

Namaste, Steven

[Ahkenaten]

But wait - isn't 'Clif High' a pseudonym? And could it be possible that someone posted remarks on GLP in the name of 'Clif High' to undermine and destroy Clif High, whoever he really is?

[jackovesk]

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Folks, I read this on GLP with some interest.

http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1259058/pg1

Clif High has apparently been using the sockpuppet (alternate identity) baldrishi to smear those who he disagrees with - including yours truly.

Here's a sample of his posts over a period of time. I have highlighted those which are snide attacks against my or Kerry Cassidy's work. This is copied from 2/3 way down p.1 of the new GLP thread - which is rapidly growing.

If this is authentic (and please, anyone, let me know if it is not), then I've just lost every scrap of respect that I ever had for this very disturbed man.

I asked myself to phathom the TRUTH and NOTHING buth the TRUTH when I was vetted to contribute to this forum Bill..!

Sensationalism of the likes of Clif High and the Media Forums he had access to led me to believe he was above board?

Thank you for bringing this to our attention, after my post "Latest Web Bot Predictions - Earthquake within Days & Economic CRASH August 2010. Clif High presented predictions about the economy, and U.S. and world events for the summer of 2010 and beyond. Started by yours truely jackovesk, 28th July 2010"

I feel let down and have made my views directly known to my friends George Noory of Coast to Coast AM and Alex Jones of Infowars.com/Prison Planet.com and sincerely apologize for my post above!

I should have known Sensationalism and those that charge $10 for the privelage should not be trusted!

Having said that, I will be more Dilligent/Intuitive & Insightful in the future.

We all know in our Guts that there is trouble ahead of us, but Clif High will not be on my radar again!

I have always trusted your Integrity Bill, that is because I know you come from the TRUTH!

[Fredkc]

If I understand the principle around web bots;

They troll a selection of web sites, looking for key language that indicates
* What people either "know" is coming,
* What people are worried is coming,
* What their sub-conscious thinks is coming,
* And, things-like-that-there.

This seems to me a fairly decent set of criteria for doing "unsolicited polling".

First problem:
The system became a victim of it's own popularity. I do remember reading Cliff saying that he had taken this into account, and "adjusted" the sites selected, and what not; but I think there is an inherent problem here.

The "juicy stuff" is probably posted to, or copied to sites where the most valuable info is, to begin with (circular problem #1).

His results go viral every time they're published. The speculation does as well.
"ECHO ECHO Echo echo echo".
Unless he "salts" his published material with keywords (see:woowoo, etc) and filters for it; Unless he removes sites where this occurs most frequently, he loses the best source points. He also becomes his own worst problem, and a self-fulfilling prophetic source. But...

... he has customers (see also: publish or perish).

Add in the ethical problems if Cliff truly is "baldrishi", or sponsors such behavior and you have to wonder what will become of his paying customers.

Personally, I thought the initial idea had some merit, when closely kept. At this point it seems as if Cliff has had his "15 minutes" of both fame, and usefulness.

Your mileage may vary,
Fred

[Ahkenaten]

All good points but what if, for example, some malicious person wanted to take someone down on the web. Wouldn't a simple strategy to undermine credibility and reputation be to establish a post under their name on a website and make provocative posts over time, and then at the right time, BINGO, make sure that the "identity" of the poseur was "discovered"? Just a thought. As Alice said, things just keep getting "curiouser and curiouser." Perhaps this vignette tells more about the intense behind-the-scenes competition for market share and oxygen/traffic amongst the alternative news factions than anything else.

[Bill Ryan]

Wouldn't a simple strategy to undermine credibility and reputation be to establish a post under their name on a website and make provocative posts over time, and then at the right time, BINGO, make sure that the "identity" of the poseur was "discovered"?

As far as I can see, this was really him. Take a close look. (http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1259058/pg1)


At this point it seems as if Cliff has had his "15 minutes" of both fame, and usefulness.


It's never pleasant to see someone blow their credibility and integrity at the same time.

[Ahkenaten]

Thanks Bill, OK I will. I have seen others destroyed in a moment by malicious people playing dirty tricks. It is a very common practice in wars at all levels.

[Fredkc]

Ahkenaten;
Problem with that theory is,
Who would spend 5 years posting the slavish stuff published, just to discredit Cliff high?

maybe I'm knutz, but I don't have 5 years of my life to waste on anyone, in this manner.

Damn!! I forgot one person. My 2nd ex-wife.

[Ahkenaten]

I now my theory is a bit over the top and probably off base in this case but I am trying to make the point that if people get on someone's radar for whatever reason measures can be taken to neutralize the threat they may pose to the status quo. Frankly there are so many people in the employ of the government now and specifically so many people with "top-secret" security clearances that with the highly compartmentalized nature of the security state - many of these people may be working against the rest of us without even knowing what they are doing! I just wanted to make the point again that sometimes things are not all that they seem. A classic example" Eliot Spitzer's take-down. How was it exactly that the accusation of sexual infidelity alone was enough to take a troublesome figure out? What did Spitzer do to bring the wrath of god down on him besides being an extremely difficult, egocentric and obnoxious person? Well for one thing one of his rather hypocritical obsessions was maintaining his AG hat and continuing his investigations into the fun and folly on Wall Street. I say hypocritical because as it turned out his own family apparently, as just one example, were insiders who invested with Bernie Madoff, but coincidentally got out of that in the nick of time before the whole scam imploded! Anyway his penchant for investigating a number of things while Governor of NY got him in trouble big time with certain people in the financial sector who expressed delight when he was taken down. He may have had sex with a call girl but how exactly does that misbehavior rise to the level of a horrendous crime with immediate massive and coordinated media attention? How exactly did that misbehavior, which was after all a matter between him, the call girl and his wife, rise to the level of crime that, if we are to believe the story, the BANKS noticed suspicious transactions in his account and reported it to the appropriate authorities??!! (Like withdrawing $10K in cash to pay the call girl is suspicious financial activity for a millionaire??!!) So he stepped on toes, someone had him on the radar, they waited until they got the dirt and played the gotcha game publically to humiliate Spitzer and take him down.

[Bill Ryan]

I know my theory is a bit over the top and probably off base in this case but I am trying to make the point that if people get on someone's radar for whatever reason measures can be taken to neutralize the threat they may pose to the status quo.

This is true. I'll explain how it works...

Someone does something dumb. No-one in the alternative media is perfect - let's assume that.

He or she annoys the insiders to the extent that a decision is made to compromise them.

They look - with all the resources at their disposal - at every bit (and byte) of the target's life.

Clif (assuming he's not an insider himself who has played the useful role of rising, falling, and creating a big diversion while something is happening on the other side of the magician's stage) is then identified as having used sockpuppets to self-promote, and also smear others.

The insiders then whisper this information (easy to do: an anonymous e-mail...) telling someone where to look.

Bingo: the truth is out. And Clif has shot himself in the foot, entirely through his own actions. The insiders may have hugely enjoyed hoisting him solely with his own petard.

A serious alternative hypothesis is that this was always all generated 'noise' intended to distract and misinform... and now he has outlived his usefulness.

[Ahkenaten]

I might add to the previous post that dirt-gathering, NOT actionable intelligence is one of the primary, genuine purposes of the so-called security state. If one had the dirt on everyone then one could easily blackmail, threaten, intimidate or otherwise neutralize any opponent. This is the typical MO of certain entities.................and certain entities therefor are very desirous of collecting dirt on us all. No one is perfect and therefor everyone is a suspect in that situation who has a vulnerable Achilles heel that can be exploited if need be.

[Ahkenaten]

I agree with all points Bill. The truly beautiful solution to any problem people is when they self-destruct, for example in the many cases of single-car accidents late at night on lonely roads, strange suicides where people shot themselves in the head with a shotgun which is difficult to do, etc. Then "hands are clean" and the desired objective is achieved.

[Dale]

With regard to the messages posted by "Baldrishi," they are highly similar in both style and content, compared to that of Clif High; when viewed linguistically. This leads me to believe that the messages posted on the forum by "Baldrishi" were written by the same individual that publishes the Web-bot reports. The fact that identical IP addresses were involved also strengthens my suspicion.

Either way, it seems we have just passed through, or are possibly even in the midst of, another "distraction."

[Ahkenaten]

Nothing more beautiful than white noise and added to that the destruction of individuals. Whatever the true background story truly evil forces are at work and active in the world. Especially chilling is the sense that SOMEONE is delighted at all of this. This is very very bad stuff.

[Operator]

Either way, it seems we have just passed through, or are possibly even in the midst of, another "distraction."

I agree ...

Additionally I think there are several distinctive elements (e.g. technology, the predictions, the person Clif High, the emotions etc.) that could easily blur the whole picture.
The technology suggests some credibility to the phenomenon but I always 'felt' like the person Clif High was bleeding (intentionally or not) real info from other sources into the mix.
Since the TPTB want to let you know certain things and play on the emotions of the masses they may have done just that.

I think that the chosen moment to discredit Clif is too obvious. They want you to throw out the baby with the bath water. If my assumption is true then not
everything is baloney but some elements may in fact be true and I am pretty sure that some other elements were used just to pre-load the masses.

So how to find those gems in all this dirt ?

[Ahkenaten]

no idea how to separate the wheat from the chaff -

[steve_a]

Hi Ahkenaten,

In politics, finding dirt on people is the very first thing that you do, most probably before you even meet them. Once you have the dirt, you can reveal it whenever you like, whenever that person doesn't serve you any more, or if you feel that that person is a threat.

In Clif Highs relation, I don't feel it is necessary that case, it's probably the other way round where a threat is perceived so you find the dirt. In Clifs case in particular, he probably went overboard on his marketing, becoming too sensationalist.

As for many 'top secret' operatives, most of them are fake, (unless you call a GI Joe top secret, as everyone who has a government (military) job has to sign the official secrets act). After all, who is to prove that they are, we only have their word for it. They pass on second or third hand information which is already in the public domain, or agree with another "pseudo" to try and gain credibility jumping on their bandwagon, which in turn begins to become a threat to the other person as they would efectively be taking a little thunder away from them, or worse, would take away a piece of their market. That is possibly the real reason why Alex Jones doesn't like Glenn Beck as they're so similar and Beck has a more mainstream show.

Don't get me wrong, there are good informants out there, like the guy who leaked the documents for Wiki, or the navy spy who was caught the other year, Sibel Edmonds is another who can prove her pedigree and a whole host of other anonymous whistleblowers who have proven track records, the most recent being an anonymous insider of the White House who leaks information to well respected journalists.

The rest of us just gather information which has already been published and try to make sense of it, as does Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, David Icke, Gerald Celente etc. The more sensible ones keep their feet on the ground and declare the truth, their published source. If in this published source there is a declaration by a military person (for example), others try to keep an edge by saying they got the information from an anonymous military source and try and keep everything ambiguous just to keep you on the edge of your seat. I do have one person in mind when I say this and some people here know who I am talking about, but I digress.

Of course this subject does go much deeper than what is written here and it would be impossible to explain it all in one go as it would take quite a while. Whoever knows, I'll set up a blog and spill my guts out with evidence to back up what I say of course. All that glistens is not gold.

Best regards,

Steve

[DawgBone]

With regard to the messages posted by "Baldrishi," they are highly similar in both style and content, compared to that of Clif High; when viewed linguistically.

Ha!

That's what we need: a web-bot to seek out and identify "socks" based on similarities in style and linguistics.

That actually might be useful!

[Ahkenaten]

I agree with everything you said Steve. Well put. I also am very fond of those who add the caveat that they cannot possibly disclose their sources due to the fact that the person is an anonymous military source! Kind of kills two birds with one stone, don't it?!! Ah what a world we live in. If only we were developed enough that it simply was impossible for us to lie......that certainly would go a long way towards resolving so many of our issues! Warm Regards - Ankh

[MariaDine]

Another person discontent with «the conspiry movement»........


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZUdAsrLEvI&feature=player_embedded

[Ahkenaten]

Hi Dawg Bone - Actually I was thinking that it would also be helpful if some inexpensive gear was available to many people to do professional voice print analysis..............I think we might discover some interesting co-identities if we had easy access to that technology!

[DawgBone]

I might add to the previous post that dirt-gathering, NOT actionable intelligence is one of the primary, genuine purposes of the so-called security state. If one had the dirt on everyone then one could easily blackmail, threaten, intimidate or otherwise neutralize any opponent. This is the typical MO of certain entities.................and certain entities therefor are very desirous of collecting dirt on us all. No one is perfect and therefor everyone is a suspect in that situation who has a vulnerable Achilles heel that can be exploited if need be.

Not only this, A, but TPTB are also adept at entrapment. If you can't find the dirt, manufacture some.

[Ahkenaten]

Why of course! But the best tactic of all is when the person of interest self-destructs all on their own...........and you can bet that literally every politician in the US has a dossier on them ready to be pulled and used if need be..............................the Spitzer gambit was in part to make the point that NO ONE is above being spanked soundly, even with all the correct credentials, pedigree, etc.

[rgray222]

In my view we all owe Clif High a debt of gratitude, I understand that this might be contrary to how most of you feel but as I see several things that immediately come into play.

1. It reminds us not to get caught up in the sensationalism
2. It reminds us no matter how hard we want or need to get at the truth it is rarely is found in predictions
3. It reminds us (me) to put 2012 into focus regarding what it really is.
4. Clif High provides a chance for some reflection on predictions and conspiracy theories.
5. The work of Clif High is a gift to us, after what has happened to him it tells us to take a deep breath and a step back.

It also should remind us that many of the people that are espousing their views about 2012 have taken a little of the truth and speckled it with the reality that they want 2012 to be and the reality that they want us to believe. Many of these people are selling books they have written, holding seminars for top dollar, asking us to buy their newsletters and come to their website with the ultimate aim of selling us something. That reality we all know to be the truth. (on Amazon alone there are more then 300 books for sale on 2012).

Now take Clif High's Web Bot predictions and expand that to the looming predictions of 2012. I have compiled a partial list!

1. Polar Shift
2. Planet X or Nibiru
3. Collapse of World Government
4. Aliens visiting earth
5. End of Time as predicted in the Mayan Calendar
6. End of Time as predicted by I Chang
7. End of Time- Religious Apocalypse
8. Flu Pandemic
9. Nuclear War or WW III
10 Nuclear Accident
11. Super Volcano
12. Ice Age
13. Global Warming or Climate Change take your pick
14. Planetary Alignment
15. False Flag
16. Killer Solar Flares
17. Comet/Meteor/Asteroid

Now toss in all the conspiracy theories and we have a recipe for madness. We have a concoction that makes your mind race with unlimited chatter and noise. This only serves to move us much farther away from the truth that we are looking for. While I am not sure where the truth actually lies, I get a sense that it is pure and easy to find if we only knew where to look. Possibly inside ourselves, the ability of the mind is truly a wondrous thing. When I was growing up we had a sign over the bedroom door that I often think about.....it said.........anything the mind can conceive the body can achieve.

Are there powers that be, sure there are but what relevance should we give them, my thought is very little. Also I think we give them way to much credit for their ability to influence our lives. When you think about what we actually know......we come with no possessions, no money, no power and no influence and we leave exactly the same way. The truth is revealed to us somewhere between our entrance and our exit. We just have to keep our minds open to everything and things will be revealed. I don't think it is a complex process, quite the contrary, I think it is so simple that we overlook it because we are onto bigger and better, predictions and conspiracies.

I was never a big fan of Clif High but I did listen, watch and read with some interest and found him somewhat articulate, never over the edge but since his dates have come and gone it has brought the whole 2012 issue into perspective for me! My hat is off to Clif High and I thank him for bringing my reality into focus. I am sorry that it had to come through his failure but that is out of my hands.

[truthseekerdan]

I was never a big fan of Clif High but I did listen, watch and read with some interest and found him somewhat articulate, never over the edge but since his dates have come and gone it has brought the whole 2012 issue into perspective for me! My hat is off to Clif High and I thank him for bringing my reality into focus. I am sorry that it had to come through his failure but that is out of my hands.

It surely was a good 'learning experience' for all of us. So let's move on to better things... :love:

[noxon medem]

Only a personal point of view:

Blessed be the imagination and presence of Clif High. ( Bald Rishi, that is clever, he he )
He is a true dreamer, with great visions, and I found his "last" interview on radio was highly
inspired, passionate and a very entertaining and valuable listening.
I do not believe in any predictions, but can then enjoy the personal stories even more.
( and I have not yet seen any valid explanation for his crying, but think I know why ..)

He does, in his way, have the power to envision the reality in a profound way,
and have been searching for computerprograms that can help him express and solidify,
quantify, and justify, this set of personal data in a common understandable frame ...
OK. That experiment is now officially over, and naturaly transformes itself
into something else.
Maybe Clif is relieved now, with this prophetic burdon taken off his shoulders.

:hippie:

[Ahkenaten]

Or Clif climbed too high and fell off a cliff

[noxon medem]

..
- like this ?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hz65AOjabtM
- from the glory days of cartoons.

( for you, Bill ..).

..
-

[TigaHawk]

As once being a webmaster of a very popular transformer's website back when i was in highschool....

and having an active forum there....

i quickly found i needed to have 2 accounts/usernames. but that was only because of my position.

Everything i said or did, was scrutanised. what i said, spelling, grammar, the lot - internet ppl can be tools.

thats where the 2nd account came in. i could relax, stop having to worry about every man and his dog waiting for me to say somethign or make a mistake somewhere for them to have a go at me. i could have a joke, call the people i thought were retards, retards, and with no slandering to "my" name.



Someone of cliff's position - may be able to justify a 2nd account so they can say what they want to say, and not have to stand up to an expectation etc, say what you realy wanna say for once.

But for someone like Cliff - in his position - especialy in the conspiracy theory field - one should know you just should not go there. With the PTB watching you like a hawk, just waiting for you to slip up to slandar you're name - its a risk not worth taking.

Personal feeling from this guy tho is "Something you dont wanna hear or something you dont wanna step on" - Rhymes with "Fool Sleet"

[Ahkenaten]

Noxon that was pretty good. Gosh I sure hope that no one falls off a High Clif like that!! (I know, me bad)

[jmj12]

Thanks bill cilff is full of b/s service to self i must be stupid i paid for his bot reports .After posting neg replies on god like productions i have had my ip address banned from the site.life is a game i play to win,dont need opinions from frauds,this is my fist post sorry to make noise about nothiing,keep up the great work all power to you.

[steve_a]

Hi MariaDine,

Thanks for the video link. I agree with some points made by Chris White - I listened to all nine parts, but was turned off a little when I discovered that the program was for promoting the Christian faith.

Best regards,

Steve

[HURRITT ENYETO]

As once being a webmaster of a very popular transformer's website back when i was in highschool....

and having an active forum there....

i quickly found i needed to have 2 accounts/usernames. but that was only because of my position.

Everything i said or did, was scrutanised. what i said, spelling, grammar, the lot - internet ppl can be tools.

thats where the 2nd account came in. i could relax, stop having to worry about every man and his dog waiting for me to say somethign or make a mistake somewhere for them to have a go at me. i could have a joke, call the people i thought were retards, retards, and with no slandering to "my" name.



Someone of cliff's position - may be able to justify a 2nd account so they can say what they want to say, and not have to stand up to an expectation etc, say what you realy wanna say for once.

But for someone like Cliff - in his position - especialy in the conspiracy theory field - one should know you just should not go there. With the PTB watching you like a hawk, just waiting for you to slip up to slandar you're name - its a risk not worth taking.

Personal feeling from this guy tho is "Something you dont wanna hear or something you dont wanna step on" - Rhymes with "Fool Sleet"

That made me laugh LOL
But i cant for the life of me think what rhymes with "fool Sleet" But i can be incredibly dense!

[Swami]

i quickly found i needed to have 2 accounts/usernames. but that was only because of my position.

Everything i said or did, was scrutanised. what i said, spelling, grammar, the lot - internet ppl can be tools.

thats where the 2nd account came in. i could relax, stop having to worry about every man and his dog waiting for me to say somethign or make a mistake somewhere for them to have a go at me. i could have a joke, call the people i thought were retards, retards, and with no slandering to "my" name.


Makes me wonder......, how many in this community have a second account...........?

[lightblue]

Makes me wonder......, how many in this community have a second account...........?


don't think that's allowed on this forum...the admin has ways of knowing if you do breach the rule....once you are caught, you are out.. i think.. :unsure: l


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[Monitor]

btw..cliff spoke about cannabis and how it rejuvenates ones neurons..just wondering about the over use of any drug ....."PSYCHOSIS"." Drug psychosis" is not apparent to the user...any comments? Is cliff a user? Why would he mention this in interview with Mel (people speak their minds)?

[DawgBone]

I propose we start a new thread: Predictions About Predictions.

A sort of meta-prediction thread.

:--)

[MariaDine]

Hello Steve !
I only heard the first video part...it was enough..., I guess I should have stated that fact in the post. Sorry !

...........but I'm not surprised with the fact they «throw» everything in same «bag»... :(

[Ahkenaten]

These Christians are always pushing back on all fronts. I too was intrigued with Maria Dine's linked 9 episodes, especially the beginning where they spoke about a "split" in the alternative news movement and got into assessing some of the well-known commentators, but when one guy stated with 100% assurance that he thinks the Bible is literally 100% factual and true they lost me. I respect that people have their own belief systems, however to proceed to listen to that man would require my suspending my natural critical thinking, independence and skepticism in favor of HIS belief system, which I am NOT about to do for anyone. They lost me right there. Then there was the business of going back to various scriptural references to ground-truth the statements. To me that defies logic, especially considering that there have been found to be many not minor mistakes in the translations of biblical texts from the Armaic and Greek source texts. People are certainly entitled to their beliefs but are NOT entitled to shove them down other people's throats in the name of objectivity and truth. These well-intended but very dangerous Christians have inserted themselves in every facet of our lives (Media, Military, Government, Business, Law) such that it is tantamount to a genuine conspiracy. There are organizations now pushing back hard against the infiltration of the US Air Force Academy, as just one example, by these types...............................do a search on Mikey Weinstein. Anyway, enuf said. I have to say that we should make a distinction between "religion" and "spirituality." Religions have perhaps done more harm in the name of God to humanity throughout recorded history than any other force.

[Sarahmay]

I am thankful to Clif and the Nov. 14th tipping point report, because it got me off my a** to set aside a modest amount of cash, silver, gold, food and off the grid cooking methods ...and that is a good thing for everyone to have. I think the jury is still out on what the result of the tipping point will be. If "life as we know it" is completely different a year from now, I guess he was right.

As for Baldrishi, I am certain that was Clif. He definitely has an edge and narcissism about his intellect and his work.

Lastly, I am thankful for every day that I have electricity, food, clean water and a warm bed. I actually appreciate these things more.

[ArtyCarl]

I would like to suggest that this topic be closed down. I think that we should rise above this wholesale internet lynching because none of us really know the truth of the matter. How well do we really know any of the personalities that we see on videos here and elsewhere on the internet. Clif is the architect of his own downfall and it is unbecoming to gloat over his very public fall from grace. Put thoughts of Webbots and Tipping Points behind us with the Galactic Federation and a whole host of other distractions.

[Beth]

Lynching probably wouldn't have been as bad if Clif hadn't been slinging mud at others, such as Bill. Just a thought.

[Ahkenaten]

I am quit sure Bill is big enough to take the slings and arrows thrown at him. I think ArtyCarl made a good point that this thread's life span has likely exceeded its value to the collective WE. The subtopics within it are actually more interesting.

[Beth]

I am quit sure Bill is big enough to take the slings and arrows thrown at him.

Oh I'm well aware of the fact Bill can take care of himself.


I think ArtyCarl made a good point that this thread's life span has likely exceeded its value to the collective WE. The subtopics within it are actually more interesting.

Says the guy that posted 22 times on it.

[Ahkenaten]

Glad you are on top of it Beth! ;-) :-)

[Sentience]

Apoligies if this has already been posted but it really is required reading for all those who still are not convinced that Mr High is dripping in snake oil.

http://sherriequestioningall.blogspot.com/2010/11/what-i-think-and-why-about-clif-high.html

Very well written and pretty much slams the final nail into the halfpasthuman scam.

for further fun try the GLP thread at http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1264206/pg1

where one of the GLP mods who was firmly in the believer camp finally sees sense and calls him out.

Sorry if this seems harsh but I have been a vocal skeptic since day one of the alta farce and this is my own "I told you so" party!

[yiolas]

Thanks for the shout out Sentience. That expose by Sherrie was eye opening to say the least.

[truthseekerdan]

The end of another deception. Hope, deceiving as it is, serves at least to lead us to the end of our lives by an agreeable route.
Let us focus on LOVE and our intentions to be on the positive side. Beware of false prophets -- there are many to deceive us...

Blessings to all on this path of truth. :love:

[RedeZra]

These Christians are always pushing back on all fronts.

These well-intended but very dangerous Christians have inserted themselves in every facet of our lives (Media, Military, Government, Business, Law) such that it is tantamount to a genuine conspiracy.

There are organizations now pushing back hard against the infiltration of the US Air Force Academy, as just one example, by these types...............................do a search on Mikey Weinstein.

Mikey Weinstein would be a Jew would he not ?

the US millitary personell has always consisted of more or less Christians


so what is new ?


perhaps Weinstein is worried that Christians won't go to war anymore

just because Jewish banksters and their political strawmen tell them to

[Bill Ryan]

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The latest at GLP on this:

One of the GLP moderators calls Clif High out publicly. She's pretty angry. It makes for interesting reading.

http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1264206/pg1


my email to him this morning as follows:

hey clif

i can understand the sock puppeting - nearly everyone's seen it done & nearly everyones done it themselves at one time or another so do the math......however, and heres a huge however.....

i do have one issue with this whole scenario.

you built a huge fan base at GLP. we extended you a voice realm in both the forum & voice chat, which ultimately gained you more listeners & subscribers.

to use GLP as your (quote) test ground, deceived not only your fans, but ...and im gonna call it here clif, defrauded your subscribers while you used GLP for personal gain.

lemme denny crane here for a moment; you set up your own analysis USING the same people who purchase your reports.

that's manipulative usury by definition.

we at GLP have a huge member collaboration of dedicated bloggers who are astute, and on game. we all take our 'work' seriously for the most part. to insult the intelligence of each & every member, regardless of their contributions, readers included; is obtuse in all reasoning. you made money off entrapment plain & simple. you conducted yourself like a cop parked outside a friggin tavern.

you labeled us GULPers because we gulp the doom. doom, is just an adjective to describe the insidious bull**** we see everyday. theres nothing wrong with rejecting weasel words in lieu of defacto. that's what GLP is about tardbot....truth. facts.

i intermittently defended you clif, without fully investigating the allegations. now that i have had the time to do so in the aftermath, the pieces to the puzzle have become clearer.

the webbots a year plus ago we're broadcast on cable - history/discovery channel. we are aware that this is a controlled media outlet. hence, TPTB.

when you came to GLP, you stated to me, that you did not want ANYONE banned, in fact you vehemently requested a troll host your show. you made mention of emotions being applicable - a red flag i admittedly didn't catch until now.

i even came to you out of respect recently to get authorization to discuss your last alta in VC. respect clif....have we lost the meaning of it along the way or has it been changed, altered, manipulated and or excused? the terminology used, to what you perceive it to be? to your benefit? explain this to me as if i was a 4 yr old, because this is such a bunch of high pressure bull****, and i take great offense on behalf of each and every GLP member, our staff, our site owner; who was very generous in permitting your **** not only on our site but to be plugged for profit and our site as a whole.

there are other anomalies that were presented to me by other radio show hosts in the last few days that involve you for which i will not divulge because i have RESPECT for their privacy....but i can say this much.....this isnt gonna look good on your resume.

i trust that hal turner check was worth the sell out.

i think i can honestly speak on behalf of the general consensus at GLP when i say....fool GLP once shame on you. fool us twice....and so it begins

Phennommennonn

[Swami]

Occam's Razor is lizard ****, and other horrors for the inner reptile...


with respect, let us begin...

please note that if your mind instantly reacts to the title with derision and repulsion which you will be able to recognize from the visceral emotional response, then it, that is to say, YOUR mind, is likely responding from that the 'scientists' call the 'R-complex'. Around the wujo, it is known as the 'reptilian mind', or 'your inner reptile'.

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/horrors.html

[bashi]

Occam's Razor is lizard ****, and other horrors for the inner reptile...



http://www.halfpasthuman.com/horrors.html

swami, are you still in this grip?
Is it worth even to click on HPH?

[Swami]

swami, are you still in this grip?
Is it worth even to click on HPH?

Grip....? After I left my dipers the grip was gone. Not my parents, teachers, girlfriends and/or any other person has had any grip on me.
Theres a beginning, theres a middle and theres an end...........
Curiousity is a better word. Yes I still look at that page now and then, just like I did before...
Just curious how BALDRISHI is reacting to all this stuff...

[Alan]

This is interesting, Clif's latest post suggests that the "bad guys" are going to sink an american ship and blame it on North Korea.

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/mastery.html

I'm not too impressed with Clif at the moment, but it's an interesting prediction and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens.

[Carmody]

right now, my uncle's monkey could make that prediction.

I also predict that Henry Kissinger will die soon.

But that one's been tried before!

Here's to hoping.... :dance:

[yiolas]

This is interesting, Clif's latest post suggests that the "bad guys" are going to sink an american ship and blame it on North Korea.

http://www.halfpasthuman.com/mastery.html

I'm not too impressed with Clif at the moment, but it's an interesting prediction and I wouldn't be surprised if it happens.

I had an interesting dream the other night. I rarely remember dreams, but for some reason I awoke in the morning and had a vivid recollection of this one. I was inside a building when I felt a strong tremor and ran outside. Once outside I was in front of a port setting. Inside the port was this large ship half sunken with its hull pointing up to wards the sky.

[Kulapops]

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The latest at GLP on this:

One of the GLP moderators calls Clif High out publicly. She's pretty angry. It makes for interesting reading.
i can understand the sock puppeting - nearly everyone's seen it done & nearly everyones done it themselves at one time or another so do the math......however, and heres a huge however.....

i do have one issue with this whole scenario.

you built a huge fan base at GLP. we extended you a voice realm in both the forum & voice chat, which ultimately gained you more listeners & subscribers.

to use GLP as your (quote) test ground, deceived not only your fans, but ...and im gonna call it here clif, defrauded your subscribers while you used GLP for personal gain.
there are other anomalies that were presented to me by other radio show hosts in the last few days that involve you for which i will not divulge because i have RESPECT for their privacy....but i can say this much.....this isnt gonna look good on your resume.

i think i can honestly speak on behalf of the general consensus at GLP when i say....fool GLP once shame on you. fool us twice....and so it begins



I think it's a real shame that people use 'sock puppets' to present a false front to the populous on forums. Isn't it a bit like playing cards with someone when you've got a mirror behind them?

The thing that we find dishonourable here with Cliff is that a 'respectable' source of knowledge is actually playing two games. On the one hand professing to have valuable information that people can need and use - and at the same time posting as another individual, where people do not know the true identity of this individual. That individual can post information about Cliff and cliff's material to 'validate' themselves. This obviously alters everyone's powers of 'discernment' because people do not know what is going on. Truthseekers like Cliff or even whistleblowers who say they stand for the truth and are actually manipulating and dishonest. Where does this leave the masses who are 'clinging' on to these paragons of virtue?

Adrift at sea.

I hope we never experience this kind of thing going on at Avalove...

K

[aroundthetable]

The main thing i got from looking at the GLP website was how chaotic and rude it is generally. Project Avalon stands well in the approach of its members, hats off to you all :)