WARNING..the entire world is getting nuttier

[shiva777]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTSJMOfSkP4

a look at how psychiatrists and doctors are poisoning peoples bodies/minds/souls with chemical controls

[Kulapops]

Great ! You're all about to join my level of (in) sanity

:)

[Rocky_Shorz]

you get sniffles as a child and they give you cold medicine that says not to take more than six without seeing a doctor... They sell it in a 10 pack...

Mental illness in over 4 Million Americans is the result...

I just wanted to mention it goes a lot further than doctors who were fooled just as bad as parents...

I guess that's why they are still practicing...

[shadowstalker]

Don't suffer form insanity, enjoy it like i do.

[witchy1]

Thanks Shiva - I had not realized just how bad it was.

When are people going to wake up to the fact that its normal to have emotions. Why are they doing this to their children and themselves!

[HORIZONS]

You are only insane if you don't know you are insane.

[TigaHawk]

i love my parents.

I had to kick up stink, cry, b@#!, moan, and be an outright little @#! when i had been a smartarse at school and stuck a pencil in my ear - and the lead from the pencil remained in my ear. lol.

She diddnt believe me, thought i was full of it. After her 3rd or 4th sleepless night it sunk in tho :P


but yes - i appreciate her methods when it came to doctors - if you're not dying i dont care :P

And it is true, what doesnt kill you makes you stronger ;)

[Fredkc]

Normal: (n.) What you think everyone else is, and you're not.

(Yes, it's a paranoids view, but a workable standard.)

Paranoid: (n.) When they're still after you, after they've taken you away.
Fred

[Ahkenaten]

dictionary definition of insanity (American Heritage Dictionary); persistent mental disorder or derangement; unsoundness of mind sufficient in the judgment of a civil court to render a person unfit to maintain a contractual or other legal relationship or to warrant commitment to a mental hospital, in most criminal jurisdictions a degree of mental malfunctioning sufficient to prevent the accused from knowing right from wrong in regard to the act he is charged with or to render him unaware of the nature of the act when committing it; and extreme foolishness or folly.

Working definition: continuing to do the same thing expecting a different result.

lying may be a symptom of functional insanity by definition inasmuch as the person so doing exhibits a "degree of mental malfunctioning sufficient to prevent the accused from knowing right from wrong," i.e. lying itself indicates not knowing right from wrong.

[Dale]

Let's see what I can add to this thread.

As a few of you know, my areas of study include psychology, with an emphasis on neurolinguistics; and English, with an emphasis on grammar/writing. It certainly makes me a decent candidate to jot a few observations down concerning this topic.

Both adjustment and research psychology are firmly rooted in statistics; manipulating the mean (average) of the scores scattered about the standard "bell curve" either to the left, or to the right, of the central point. Or, more simply put, to reject the null hypothesis.

With this being said, the scores of a given population parameter also tend to follow a standard "bell curve," with the average, or most common scores, occurring toward the center. The scores on the outer edges (critical regions) of the curve are the extreme scores.

For example, IQ scores follow a "bell curve," with the largest proportion of the scores within one or two deviations from 100. Scores of 60, or 160, are considered to fall under the critical region. This can be applied to behaviors, as well.

From what I've began to notice, with my work in research psychology, the only scores that seem to matter to researchers are those that fall near the population mean. The scores that fall within each of the two extreme critical regions seem not to matter, as the individuals representing those scores can be "treated," in some fashion, to recede closer to the population mean. So, the individuals with high levels of creativity, or any other trait that falls beyond a certain, predetermined level, can be "treated" to live a more "comfortable" life - closer to the largest percentage of folk.

And, quite frankly, this frightens me.

[Ahkenaten]

So it is as I suspected Dale: the primary investment being made by the psychological/psychiatric profession (educated and funded by the usual suspects) is into the business of 1.) dumbing people up 2.) dumbing people down and 3.) maintaining the middle ground where there is hope of maintaining the status quo for TPTB.

[Fredkc]

dictionary definition of insanity
Insanity is a legal term, not a medical one. Or so I heard in a movie.

But then, trusting a psychologist to determine if I am sane is about the craziest thing I've heard.
I think 80% of them get in the biz because they want to find out what's wrong with them!

Not a good sign, says I.

Basically you either choose to be flexible enough in your behavior so you don't "scare the livestock", or you don't.
Anyone who won't is probably insane. ;)

[morguana]

Psychosis is when you don't know your 'mad'
Neurosis is when you know you have madnesses even if it's an unconscious thing
Madness is what we fear untill we realize that we don't need to fear it any more.
In psychotherapy and mental health the 2 main fears are death and madness, Buddha said realize this and move forward, in the words of frank herbut from dune ...... Do not fear fear, for fear is the mind killer that brings total obliteration, I will face my fear......you get my drift ;)
M

[Rocky_Shorz]

ooh now we know how they are going to change us over to a world currency...

by declaring all of us clinically insane... :clock:

[morguana]

Mad World


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR91Rj1ZN1M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR91Rj1ZN1M

hope avalonians you enjoy this song.....
love
m

[sargeist]

Normal: (n.) What you think everyone else is, and you're not.

(Yes, it's a paranoids view, but a workable standard.)

Paranoid: (n.) When they're still after you, after they've taken you away.
Fred

lol nice

'just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they're not after you'

[Decibellistics]

I meaaaan. I would argue that every single human that has undergone your typical form of socialization has some form of mental disorder. It's ingrained in the system. Not one person excluded. The range of how much harm has been done is the only thing that varies, which determines the amount of insanity encountered.

[Ross]

Madness for me tonight was watching the news...12 year old School girl, warned of 'suspension' if caught again for hugging her girlfriend...was told to take 10mins time out.

Congregation of more than 3 person: not allowed

Kartwheels, handstands, headstands, and similair: not allowed

Lunchbox examined by teacher and 'milo' snack bar: not allowed


wtf is with that? sorry... but facisiam is alive and well here in Queensland, AU.

Ross

[astrid]

Im not defending psychiatry in any way, but that video does "feel" very scientology and extremist to me....

[Heartsong]

I'm going against the tide of this thread and say that mental illness is real. It's not a question of definitions - sanity or insanity. It's not a matter of opinion. It's a brain dysfunction! Some are treated by talk therapy, some are treated with medication, many are treated with both. Some can not be treated successfully. Many of those are found living in the streets, not being able to clear their mind of voices or hallucinations. They live in a hell where there is no escape.
To say that TPTB, Pharma, or Psychiatrists created mental illness is like saying the same groups created Spinal Injuries.

[Ahkenaten]

OK agreed that 'mental illness' exists and is not always a creation of TPTB, Big Pharma or the Psychiatric profession, although one mus admit that these entities DO profit from illness of all kinds! The modern view of these mental states is the anomaly - i.e. that people's mental states can and should be mapped, categorized, labeled and sliced and diced for the purpose of understanding. Understanding seldom is the result, however RX of more drugs for each category IS. In the past certain people who today would be labeled as delusional schizophrenics were revered and regarded as Seers and Prophets in many cultures - they were valued as people who crystallized the people's consciousness and surfaced unconscious ideations. The whole concept of 'dysfunction' is not an objective one but is rather culturally-driven and therefor subjective.

[MariaDine]

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[frank samuel]

Insanity is a label that will help the majority of americans to receive social security benefits at an early age without any problems. Is ironic you could be on a death bed paid fully for your social security and not be approved , as soon as a social security disability applicant goes to a psychiatrist and he's declare legally insane then hurray you have an instant aproval for your social security benefits.

From my perspective there's is no such thing as normal, and I have been totally insane since the day I set foot on this planet which from my account perhaps has been a couple of thousand lives , you might say that to be insane is a requirement for the inhabitants of planet Earth. For those like me who wear your insanity as a badge of honor, we should have a holiday name after all of us, the day of the normals.:p

[Ross]

and I have been totally insane since the day I set foot on this planet which from my account perhaps has been a couple of thousand lives ,

I'l join you in the insane camp franky:madgrin:

A few thousand years on this asylum can do that to ya:cool:

Ross

[Ahkenaten]

And the beauty of insanity is that it creates plausible deniability - maybe this tactic can be used against the enemy!

[daledo]

I'm going against the tide of this thread and say that mental illness is real. It's not a question of definitions - sanity or insanity. It's not a matter of opinion. It's a brain dysfunction! Some are treated by talk therapy, some are treated with medication, many are treated with both. Some can not be treated successfully. Many of those are found living in the streets, not being able to clear their mind of voices or hallucinations. They live in a hell where there is no escape.
To say that TPTB, Pharma, or Psychiatrists created mental illness is like saying the same groups created Spinal Injuries.

I am not saying that mental illness is not real but the cause of it is toxins and impurities that accumulate in the brain. Like the video said they are treating the symptoms of the condition not the cause. Why can people not get it that they need to find the cause to treat things. I was given a diagnosis of MS 2 years ago and 4 different neurologists said to me that there was no cause that they knew of. I did not agree with this and did my research and found that it was caused by the Hepatitis B vaccine and the toxins that were in it. I treated the cause with a detox and MMS and now have no problems with MS.

Do the research and find the cause because no doc will tell you the real reason for sickness because if they did their pill game is over.
A patient cured is a patient lost. Why would they cure you.... they would be out of a job.

[worldruler]

i have only ever got on with the nutty ones , so this is a good thing .
I,ll have more friends that don,t mind how i use commas , woohoo
it reminds me of when kraft brought out extra nutty yer that was great .
then they brought out those only buy from the ones with the green tick lists.
that was depressing

[Zook]

Good morning Heartsong, the Earth says hello!


I'm going against the tide of this thread and say that mental illness is real. It's not a question of definitions - sanity or insanity. It's not a matter of opinion. It's a brain dysfunction! Some are treated by talk therapy, some are treated with medication, many are treated with both. Some can not be treated successfully. Many of those are found living in the streets, not being able to clear their mind of voices or hallucinations. They live in a hell where there is no escape.


Some mental illness is real. But that is looking more and more like the exception than the rule. So is it the exception or the rule? Who knows? What is real is that TPTB, Pharma, Psychiatrists are profiting off a cash cow that TPTB have created.

The industrial arm of TPTB has created the toxic physical environments that are largely responsible for the increases in the number of biochemical brain damage cases (e.g. lead and mercury poisoning leading to a quantum increase in the incidence of autism; the probable link of aluminum and other metals to Alzheimer's Disease; food additives inducing change in our body chemistry including that of our brain; etc. ).

The media arm of TPTB has created the toxic psychological environments that are largely responsible for the way we behave and view ourselves (e.g. creating unattainable material ideals and attainable spiritual voids) ... these toxic psychological environments then create a demand for escapism which Big Pharma, Illicit Pharma, and the Alcohol Oligopoly are only too glad to meet.

The psychiatrists of Big Medicine? Well, these patricians of the estimative sciences have created the new psychometric acrynomic vocabulary ... ADHD, ADD, OCD, PMS, PTSD, ODD, PDD, LD, IQ, AS, MR, MunchausenSyndromebyProxy, etc. etc. ... Whatever happened to simple identifiable honest to headlessness stuff like schizophrenia?



To say that TPTB, Pharma, or Psychiatrists created mental illness is like saying the same groups created Spinal Injuries.

Not at all. Nothing like it, friend.

:typing:

ps: My brother-in-law is a psychiatrist; and I respect him. So it's not like I'm picking on psychiatrists per se. But I have to call it like I see it.

[Ahkenaten]

What really has gotten insane is the constantly expanding list of what constitutes mental disorders..................now a person is seen to have a mental illness rather than a problem with lack of self-control, self-discipline, and other character elements. Then it can be argued that they were not responsible for bad things they did - even criminal acts - because of their illness!! Of course that means they must be under the care of a psychiatrist and there is a specific blue or red pill indicated for that problem. A young friend of a friend has what I call an anger management issue combined with impulsiveness........he is prone to punching holes in walls when upset and that sort of thing. HELLO?!! Rather than recommending that he apply himself to the long-neglected development of his CHARACTER - he is under the care of a mental health professional who, you guessed it - prescribed expensive mind-control drugs to "control the problem." Will these drugs change this person? NO! In fact the drug suppressing his "symptoms" (in reality areas of his character begging him to work on himself) prolongs his debased state and may even short-circuit his development.

Soon the government will take such an intense interest in each and every one of our lives and behavioral quirks that we will be assigned personal assistants to help us to the bathroom to take our daily dose.

[xbusymom]

And the beauty of insanity is that it creates plausible deniability - maybe this tactic can be used against the enemy!

bingo- I love the 'stupid question'...

and zookumar, I agree with you totally, (my dad was a psychologist) the docs just dont' know any different than what they are trained to believe... imagine 12 years of jamming certain info into students' minds where the amydala gathers the 'familiar' and validates it as 'important and true'...

that method may take a little longer to accomplish , but THAT is the true mind control

[East Sun]

In the 70s I read about cerebral allergies. Foods and chemicals and pollution that effects the brain. Regular Drs. scoffed at the idea. I found 'Clinical ecologist' Dr. who treated patients in a holistic manner. It took a long time to find all the things I was affected by and some could not be avoided, like combustion engine pollution for example. For many years I went on a 'healthful' diet and avoided all junk foods etc. I had to give up a lot of things I really liked but soon became accustomed to the change to the point that yucky sweet foods and sugar were repulsive to me. Those were the most interesting and productive years of my life.
There are things I should still avoid like beer but hey, you have to have some enjoyment in your life. Pollution is the hardest thing to avoid. It knocks me for a loop whenever I have to take even a few breaths of pollution from trucks, cars etc.
A lot of people could be made better if they could give up bad habits and live healthful lives. I know there are problems that people are born with that are serious and have to be treated in some way. Drugs are necessary sometimes. I take some myself. Indoor pollution from chemicals like formaldehyde in carpets and chemicals used for cleaning make a lot of people sick. The symptoms can be depression or any so called mental illness.
Nutrition was/is something medical doctors knew nothing about until recently and won't discuss. If you insist the recommend a nutritionist who may not have ever heard of cerebral allergies. It's the opposite to psycho-somatic illness. Our brain is effected by what our bodies consume and what we are in contact with and especially what we breath. Thought I'd mention this in case someone is interested. :)

[xbusymom]

East Sun, of course we are interested...!!!...!!!

We need to get the word out about all the toxic ingredients that is in and throughout everything. We need to help people connect the dots and see that disorders, conditions and diseases are a result/EFFECT of some CAUSE that we came in contact with. If we can get people to quit believing the pharma-spewage of the 'symptom-gone-you're-cured' approach and realize that everything is linked to everything else, ... you get the gist of where I am going with this... I'm with you - Bro!

[daledo]

We need to get the word out about all the toxic ingredients that is in and throughout everything. We need to help people connect the dots and see that disorders, conditions and diseases are a result/EFFECT of some CAUSE that we came in contact with. If we can get people to quit believing the pharma-spewage of the 'symptom-gone-you're-cured' approach and realize that everything is linked to everything else, ... you get the gist of where I am going with this... I'm with you - Bro!

Totally agree with you. I read something the other day that said that cancer was non-existent in ancient times. Why does a HUGE % of the population have cancer now? Where were all of the diseases that we have now in the past? Most were not there. It is a convenience to go to the store and buy frozen food and to go to a fast food restaurant and get a quick meal. What people do not see is the preservatives and toxins in this poison food.

People are putting their health at risk for a convenience

This needs to stop and it starts with education. They do not teach this stuff because if they did the whole system would crumble. The human body CAN NOT process synthetic chemicals. These chemicals accumulate in parts of the body and cause major problems for people down the road.

The body needs and feeds on natural substances... without them our body breaks down we are more susceptible to disease. When we replace these natural ingredients with synthetic ones our body and mind goes crazy. Do your research and educate yourself because big brother and big corporations will never do it for you.

[East Sun]

East Sun, of course we are interested...!!!...!!!

We need to get the word out about all the toxic ingredients that is in and throughout everything. We need to help people connect the dots and see that disorders, conditions and diseases are a result/EFFECT of some CAUSE that we came in contact with. If we can get people to quit believing the pharma-spewage of the 'symptom-gone-you're-cured' approach and realize that everything is linked to everything else, ... you get the gist of where I am going with this... I'm with you - Bro!

It's good to hear someone who is aware of these things. I'm used to being scoffed at, but that's ok. People do not make the connection even when they are told that chemicals, preservatives, dyes etc. can make them sick. I've found that the people like me who were really sick will eventually try anything. I'm lucky to live near a Natural Foods Supermarket. It does not cost more when you shop smart.
imo. a lot of people are being made sick by taking prescription drugs--yeah, the symptoms are dumbed down but the problem is still there. I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir. We are up against a Goliath that doesn't want us to know the truth. But so far there are ways to avoid a lot of the crapola that is blasted our way through the media.
I recommend a book that has become like my Bible. It is, the Edgar Cayce Companion. Even if you have read about him this book has information in abundance regarding health cures--old fashioned remedies as well as thoughts on just about everything that is important in our lives. :)

[MichalPtacnik]

Actually, this is a very good find. Imagine, if you will, a world someday in the future where the people are divided on the grounds of their psychic illness; that in fact the atmosphere of the Earth will cause the society and our living environment to become so insane that it will only produce insane people. I find this a very compelling goal for the World; if we postulate that the World is waging a war on souls, basically, what better way to stop enlightenment than to sink people in the mud of real psychic diseases, all on their own, then blame it on coincidence (which it will be in the common paradigm!) and offer a gentle solution of meds that make the situation even worse. A one sided human will not be easy to enlgihten and one sidedness, concentration, by necessity, on the disease and it's results, is what you get in case of the psychically ill.

Btw. I do believe there are in fact no psychic diseases; this is the danger; psychic diseases are healthly and normal responses to abnormal situation, chemical in the body, social, stress, etc., that we simply are so much "not built for" that we begin to divorce from the common reality and get stuck in a consciousness field that brings into us some kind of psychic mess. That is why this dystopia will really be conicidences for those who won't see behind the curtain, and fewer and fewer will...

[East Sun]

MichaelPtacnik,

"...those who won't see behind the curtain, and fewer and fewer will..."

I hope you are not right about that. Yes, I can see us heading into chaos but, that should wake people up. In the meantime we are gradually getting somewhere especially on the internet. The more people are made aware the better and once the public can see clearly that they have been duped IT should take off......and finally begin anew....

[Lost Soul]

Pyschiatry is for doctors who, as medical students, are not smart enough to become surgeons, go into internal medicine, become family practictioners, OB-GYN, anesthesiologists, or any other respectful form of medical practictioner. I have tinnitus and my doctor prescribed something that was formerly a psych med! I asked the pharmacist for the print out, read it and said forget it. I'll suffer with the ringing before I resort to a pscyh med for any ailment.

[xbusymom]

Oh-HoHo... it goes way deeper than that... psychiatry IS the agenda, to ... Disable, Classify, and Medicate EVERYONE... (someone has already looked behind the curtain...)
see my whole video series - "How sick are we?"
http://www.youtube.com/user/xbusymom?feature=mhum#g/c/370212447D47C846

[East Sun]

I have tinnitus and have read and been told that there is no cure. I wonder why it is worse sometimes than others, as when I drink coffee or eat some foods. I don't believe that there is no cure for anything, just that we don't know what the cure is. Now that it's clear that "they" don't want to cure, it's up to us to find what we can for ourselves. Let the patient beware!!!!!!!!!

----------------p.s. xbusymom, I just now went to your youtube link. Thanks for that. It"s a tough journey to have to travel. In the 70s mine started and probably will not end in my lifetime. All these decades I felt that there was something 'wrong' and if I could find out what it was and correct it I would be fine. The glass is half full now. It would be nice even for a short while to be totally free=healthy physically, mentally and spiritually.
Thanks again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DawgBone]

I have tinnitus and have read and been told that there is no cure. I wonder why it is worse sometimes than others, as when I drink coffee or eat some foods. I don't believe that there is no cure for anything, just that we don't know what the cure is. Now that it's clear that "they" don't want to cure, it's up to us to find what we can for ourselves. Let the patient beware!!!!!!!!!

East Sun, you might want to take a look at this book: Fasting and Eating for Health by Joel Fuhrman, MD.

Here's a quote:

"Diseases such as acne and eczema, tinnitus (chronic noise in the ears), vertigo, fibromyalgia, glaucoma, cervical dysplasia, chronic neck and back pain, polymyalgia rheumatica, and many others are helped by fasting. ... Even deafness has resolved during fasting for some other condition, surprising both the patient and the doctor when the hearing returned."

I haven't really started working with fasting myself yet, but intend to.

[East Sun]

Thanks DawgBone,
The book is on my list. Once in the 70s I fasted for 3 days. My head felt clearer and I could swear my good vision was even better. :)

[Rocky_Shorz]

Since the algae consume the carbon dioxide, Coale's research led to proposals to fertilize the ocean on a mass scale to stave off global warming. The discovery of the algae's toxicity throws a wrench into these plans. "We should use this as a caution," said Silver. "Using iron fertilization as a remedy for global warming would be dangerous." Domoic acid attacks the nervous system. During blooms, the algae that produces it become a dominant food for small fish and shellfish. Animals higher up in the food chain amass poisonous amounts of the toxin because the algae lodges in the guts of their prey. "With high algae levels, fish pick them up," said Silver. "With their stomachs loaded with cells, they can be quite toxic." Harmful algae blooms occur seasonally along California's coast, leading to a ban on shellfish harvesting between May and November to protect public health. In humans, the toxin attacks the brain, producing confusion, memory loss and hallucinations...

It's the fish pills...

[pinkfrost]

and i saw today the race to put women's viagra on the market for this "disorder." mother of god.

[Lost Soul]

Changing energies along with the inability to cope with changes is naturally going to make some folks go nutz. We saw that with Hurricane Katrina in Nawlens. More and more people are "snapping" everyday. Just read the mainstream media and you'll hear that another person broke and did something crazy.

[benevolentcrow]

I am a member of the "Harmless Crackpot Society" anyone care to join? We could sell T-shirts saying "Harmless Crackpot" Possibly a lot of money to be made to donate to the needy!

Just kidding! In Love and Light