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Cidersomerset
19th April 2015, 15:08
Interview starts approx 30 min in, at about the 1 hr mark after the break they start
talking about recent comments by John Podesta & Obama on UFO's. This leads to
James saying he plans to publish the letter Stephen Spielberg sent to him in his
own handwriting in 2009 about his films ( 1hr. 07m ) , and this is what prompted
this thread as I randomly put this interview on in the background as I was making
dinner , and my ears pricked up when James mentioned the letter...LOL..Though I
cannot find the letter released yet ?

James does not say what was in the letter other than it is intriguing and shows
Stephen knows as many speculate, a lot more than he has said in public.
The interview goes into the Ariel School UFO Sighting in Ruwa, Zimbabwe –
September 1994 and much , much more......After slow start it gets going
and is a very good interview imo.

Ep. 223 FADE to BLACK Jimmy Church w/ James Fox, Director 701 LIVE on air

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Published on 29 Mar 2015


James Fox, director of Out of the Blue and I Know What I Saw is back on the show to
give us an update on his new film 701...and he dropped a bombshell about his Steven
Spielberg letter that he's going public with in about a week...we also cover current
events and what it takes to be one of the best, if not only, UFO feature film creator in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/user/jamescharlesfox

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Opening sequence high res H 264 of James Fox new movie coming up in the next
few years....

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Interview with Tracy Torme and James Fox about UFOs and 701

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Published on 31 May 2014


This is a brief interview with writer, producer Tracy Torme and James Fox regarding
UFOs and their upcoming documentary, feature film 701.

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I KNOW WHAT I SAW - 2009 UFO HD Movie

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Published on 11 Jan 2012


UFOTV® Accept no Imitations! (Please vote thumbs up!) What people say about I
KNOW WHAT I SAW - "Compelling" - Steven Spielberg, "The Real Close Encounters -
Larry King, CNN. "The most compelling film on the subject to date." - Edgar Mitchell,
Apollo 14 Astronaut. Government and Military Officials reveal the truth about UFOs. The
most credible UFO witnesses from around the world tell stories that challenge reality in I
KNOW WHAT I SAW, a documentary guaranteed to change the way we see the
universe. Director James Fox brings together the testimony of Air Force generals,
astronauts, military and commercial pilots, government and FAA officials from seven
countries; their accounts reveal the reasons those involved at the highest levels have
chosen government secrecy over public disclosure in I KNOW WHAT I SAW here on UFOTV®.

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UFOs OUT OF THE BLUE - 2002 HD FEATURE FILM

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Uploaded on 9 Nov 2011


From UFOTV®, accept no imitations. Narrated by Peter Coyote, OUT OF THE BLUE is
widely considered one of the best documentary films ever made about UFOs and was
directed by celebrated filmmakers James Fox, Tim Coleman and Boris Zubov. The films
producers traveled around the world to investigate some of the most famous UFO
events on record. Through exclusive interviews with high-ranking military and
government personnel, this award-winning film supports the theory that some UFOs are
of extraterrestrial origin.

This film features Governor Fife Symington, Astronaut Dr. Edgar Mitchell, Russian
General Leonid Aleviev, President Jimmy Carter, Cosmonaut Major General Pavel
Popovich, UK Admiral Lord Hill Norton, Physics Professor Dr. Brian Greene, President
Gerald Ford, Astronaut Colonel Gordon Cooper. White House Chief of Staff John
Podesta, and many more. Presents an International Scope, Quality Testimony, and
Scientific Perspectives. OUT OF THE BLUE provides a Definitive Investigation of the UFO Phenomenon.

"The weirdest thing about the documentary OUT OF THE BLUE is how weird it isn't." - TV Guide

"...methodically lays out out an argument that something is out there." - Associated Press

"OUT OF THE BLUE emerges as one of the very best films ever produces on this, one of the most interesting in the history of science." - Skeptic Magazine

Cidersomerset
19th April 2015, 15:36
Ariel School UFO Sighting in Ruwa, Zimbabwe – September 1994

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Published on 29 Jul 2014


On the morning of September 16, 1994, teachers and school officials at the Ariel School
in Ruwa, Zimbabwe were amazed when the school’s students, aged approximately 5 to
12 years old, reported that a flying object had landed on the school grounds.

The teachers at the school were in a meeting, so the 62 children were basically
unsupervised while in the schoolyard on morning recess. The only available adult seems
to have been one of the mothers, who was operating the school tuck shop – a sort of
snack bar where candy, snacks and sodas are sold.

According to some sources, UFOs had been seen in the skies over Zimbabwe for two
days before the incident occurred. Ruwa is about 20 kilometers from Harare, the capitol
of Zimbabwe. Ariel School is a private elementary school with students of mixed ethnic
heritage.

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Randall Nickerson Ruwa, Zimbabwe Africa UFO Encounter

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Cidersomerset
19th April 2015, 16:07
James is asked in the aprox 2hr 20 mins mark what is the most convincing UFO
case to date and he mentions the McMinnville case.

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Best Evidence - McMinnville UFO case

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Uploaded on 31 Jul 2007

A clip from my film "Best Evidence: Top 10 UFO Sightings", which was made for
Space: The Imagination Station in Canada (and is also showing on TVNZ in New
Zealand). Case #4 was the 1950 McMinnville, Oregon UFO photo case.


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The trouble is when the mainstream news does an article it usually ends with
a sceptic just saying any BS as in this case its a model , which makes no sense
to the bigger story......


What Was On A Farm Near McMinnville, Oregon in 1950? A UFO - Dateline

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Published on 4 Jul 2014


On a farm near McMinnville, Oregon the " McMinnville UFO photographs" were
taken in 1950 by Evelyn & Paul Trent. (Also known as The Trent Photos)

SOURCE= http://www.nbcnews.com/video/dateline...
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Cidersomerset
19th April 2015, 17:22
James also talks about this documentary among others and says it was going to be
part of disclosure, which has been planned several times over the years , but still
has not been done officially and some seem happy for it to remain on the fringe ,
though with the web full of UFO info good and rubbish. James feels we maybe
getting near to another possible disclosure 'portal' but it is up to us to push
politicians from the bottom up. He says in the fade interview that he sent copies of
out of the blue to all the members of congress and others. He said the feedback
coming back was that they were not prepared to put their neck on the lines and
ruin their careers unless the majority of their constitants give them the mandate.


UFOS IT HAS BEGUN Alien

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Published on 27 Mar 2014


In 1974, American documentary producer, Robert Emenegger,
was asked by the Republican Party to produce a film about UFOs,
using only official, government people and files. He was promised
footage of an actual 'flying saucer' landing that had occurred at
Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico back in 1964.

His film was made and given the title of UFOs: Past, Present and Future.

Unfortunately, the promised footage was never forthcoming, but
Emenegger had shot the dramatized parts of the segment beforehand
(air force officers answering telephones, emergency trucks driving
around, that kind of thing). These would have been used as inserts
into the actual landing footage. What he was forced to do instead was
use paintings of the alien craft and the meeting that occurred with its occupants.

A few years later, in 1976, the documentary was re-released as UFOs:
It Has Begun and again in 1979 (no doubt to cash in on the success of
the Steven Spielberg smash-hit movie, Close Encounters of the Third Kind),
with additional material added from French ufologist Jacques Vallee and
sections concerned with animal mutilations.

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Robert Emenegger - The UFO Landing at Holloman Air Force Base - www.VeritasShow.com - 1/5

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Uploaded on 4 Aug 2010


Robert Emenegger's story is potentially one of the best UFO stories of all time. The UFO
landing at Holloman Air Force Base. Bob Emenegger, a natural skeptic, and his business
partner, are invited by the U.S. Military to receive UFO footage filmed by the same military
to be used in their film. Bob Emenegger's story is potentially the best UFO story of all
times." ~Grant Cameron. To listen to the entire show, and all our past and future shows,
subscribe at http://www.veritasshow.com No censorship and no commercials. We survive
on your voluntary subscriptions only.

Cidersomerset
19th April 2015, 19:02
Another case mentioned by Jimmy to James is this Australian case...

It shows how scientists and witness's were discredited by authorities
particularly by intel groups set up for the purpose.


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UFO Encounter at Australian High School Full Documentary

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Published on 15 Nov 2014
UFO Encounter at Australian High School Full Documentary

Kryztian
20th April 2015, 01:20
Early on in the interview Fox mentions a letter he has from Steven Spielberg that we be about as newsworthy as the John Podesta tweet. Fox said he would probably release it within a week, yet it has been three weeks since the interview.

I ask impatiently: Are we going to get to see it ???

Cidersomerset
20th April 2015, 09:50
Early on in the interview Fox mentions a letter he has from Steven Spielberg that we be about as newsworthy as the John Podesta tweet. Fox said he would probably release it within a week, yet it has been three weeks since the interview.

I ask impatiently: Are we going to get to see it ???

I know that's what I said in the intro at the top and what
caused me to do this post as I was just listening to this
interview at random , and yes I don't think he has released
it yet. James did say something on the lines if Stephen Spielberg
did contact him and did not want it published he may not. So
lets hope James publishes it soon after the teaser in the interview....

Kryztian
20th April 2015, 13:00
According to this web page (http://www.educatinghumanity.com/2013/03/Steven-Spielberg-calls-for-UFO-disclosure.html) Spielberg's agent Martin Levy did deny the request to release it. Fox did however, read the letter to a crowd and it was transcribed. It basically said:


Dear Larry,
With great curiosity, I watched the documentary you sent over and found it compelling. Personally, I would like to think we are not alone, and even though I have devoted a generous percentage of my movies to extraterrestrial related themes, I for one have never seen a UFO. That is so unfair! (sic)
I hope you will continue to pursue this topic on your program, and that some day our government will offer a total disclosure about what they know about unidentified flying objects and their true and natural origins.
I continue to enjoy watching you and all your guests.
All my best,
Signed: Steven


I guess this is interesting, but still not nearly as noteworthy as the Podesta tweet. Frankly, I think Spielberg knows way more than this letter indicates.

Cidersomerset
20th April 2015, 17:13
According to this web page Spielberg's agent Martin Levy did deny the request to release it. Fox did however, read the letter to a crowd and it was transcribed. It basically said:




Quote Dear Larry,
With great curiosity, I watched the documentary you sent over and found it compelling. Personally, I would like to think we are not alone, and even though I have devoted a generous percentage of my movies to extraterrestrial related themes, I for one have never seen a UFO. That is so unfair! (sic)
I hope you will continue to pursue this topic on your program, and that some day our government will offer a total disclosure about what they know about unidentified flying objects and their true and natural origins.
I continue to enjoy watching you and all your guests.
All my best,
Signed: Steven
I guess this is interesting, but still not nearly as noteworthy as the Podesta tweet. Frankly, I think Spielberg knows way more than this letter indicates.


Well if that's the letter , its the biggest anti climax since ' A I ' ...LOL


I was expecting something on the lines " I was told by a informed/reliable or inside
source Bla Bla Bla ......................"

I hope there is more to this issue......

Cidersomerset
20th April 2015, 17:22
Again the context is everything with these quotes , was it a wink towards the truth ?
or just a in joke for the audience at the private screening ?


Spielberg confirms Reagan extraterrestrial comment after screening of E.T. at the White House

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Cidersomerset
20th April 2015, 20:41
This is a interesting sound bite from an interview where he says he " Believes in the
UFO phenomenon " and tells a story of when he was a boy 5/6 yrs old his father
woke him up in the middle of the night , and they went to a field in the country to
watch the perseids type meteor shower. This left a lasting impression on the young
Spielberg , which may of helped fuel his imagination , it certainly left an impression.

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Steven Spielberg Talks UFOs

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Published on 25 Mar 2012


While speaking on the set of Close Encounters of the Third Kind, Steven Spielberg
discusses his beliefs regarding UFOs and alien visitation to Earth

Cidersomerset
20th April 2015, 21:19
Steven Spielberg Talks UFOs - 1977

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Uploaded on 28 Jul 2010


A few months before the release of Close Encounters Of The Third Kind, director
Steven Spielberg talks UFOs, and why he thought US President Jimmy Carter
was about to unveil something big.

President Jimmy Carter Admits To Seeing A UFO

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This is also an interesting snippet from our point of view , where he says it would
not surprise him if there were a 'cosmic watergate' which is a significant analogy at
the time only a few years after the Nixon affair. At the end he also make reference
to the rumours that President Carter was about to disclose something that
December , which would of coincided with Close Encounters.

There is so much tantalising titbits that can be interpreted several ways.Steven was
told something while making Close encounters after all Dr.Allan Hyneck had a
cameo in the film.....

Film Crew Comments, Dr. Allen Hynek (Making of Close Encounters of the Third Kind 1997)

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Or it was just good PR for the film ? Steven was talking as though the public were
ready for disclosure. You can certainly see where these intuitions about him were
formed , and as he said in the above post he was a believer from a young boy.

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Former presidents comment on UFO sightings and alien life - Ford, Carter, Clinton

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Dr.Allen Hynek comes clean on his involvment in UFO coverup

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Dr. J. Allen Hynek - scientific advisor of Project Bluebook comes clean on his
involvement in ufo coverup.

1966 CBS REPORTS UFO Friend Foe Or Fantasy?

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Excellent program from 1966. Features J Allen Hynek & Donald Keyhoe.



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Dr. J Allen Hynek Admits Astronomers do see UFO's ! (1977)

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Uploaded on 8 Jun 2010


Dr. Josef Allen Hynek ( May 1, 1910 - April 27, 1986 ) was Chairman of Department
of Astronomy Northwestern University , professor, and ufologist. He is perhaps best
remembered for his UFO research. Hynek acted as scientific adviser to UFO studies
undertaken by the U.S. Air Force under three consecutive names: Project Sign
(1947-1949), Project Grudge (1949-1952), and Project Blue Book (1952 to 1969).
For decades afterwards, he conducted his own independent UFO research, and is
widely considered the father of the concept of scientific analysis of both reports
and, especially, trace evidence purportedly left by UFOs. Also his book called The
Ufo's Experience a Scientific Inquiry 1972

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Dr. Hynek Tells The Truth About The UFO Blue Book Project.....influenced by CIA...

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Uploaded on 26 Sep 2010


Show a witness admitting how he regrets telling the truth because everyone he
knows treated like he was nuts for telling the real truth.That is what has been
holding the real truth back.The fact everyone heard the truth but can't believe it
and can believe in a religious lie really is pathetic.

Cidersomerset
20th April 2015, 22:02
These Dr. Allan Hynek interviews in the above post and here are very interesting
and a important piece of the UFO cover up organised by the CIA and other military
and civilian groups. What is fascinating is that some of these interviews are from
when he was a science consultant for the airforce and actively involved in the cover
up as a national security issue to discourage the public in believing that UFO's were real.

Then later after he became a sort of whistle blower and actively pressed for
acknowledgement that a significant number of UFO'S were unexplained and should
be publicly investigated and openly discussed on the media without ridicule.

In the Kreskin interview below Dr. Hynek explains how physicist Edward Condon
explained the phenomenon in the Condon Report by simply ignoring it. Although
it was only a brief segment in the show it was interesting.Later in the show Kreskin
does a suggestion hypnotic techniche to prove the power of suggestion , which
is entertaining and I presume Kreskin was trying to ridicule Allan Hyneck , but
its a totally different subject.

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Tom Snyder interviewing J. Allen Hynek and Peter Gersten

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Kreskin meets Dr. Josef Allen Hynek, UFO specialist

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Kreskin meets Dr Josef Allen Hynek and discusses whether unidentified
flying objects are from another world or are down to our imagination.
The show opens with a Poker trick with a member of the audience. Kreskin
then investigates the existence of an hypnotic state with a group of participants.

Cidersomerset
21st April 2015, 12:22
Jacques Vallee, Terrence McKenna, John Mack, Budd Hopkins on the Alien, UFO, Abduction phenomenon

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This is timely with UFO disclosure gathering a bit of steam again from a few sources
from David & Corey and others which can be dismissed as fantasy, so is not a
threat to the deepstate and is probably encouraged. More contensious is the
Journey to the stars which does look like a intel op.

Coming in under the radar is Dark Journalist who's ongoing research has brought
him to a possible link to Trump in his current series and yesterday he posted a
summery update which is very interesting.

Any meme can be spun or weaponized so what started as an attack against
mainstream news can easily be spun the other way and is being done by CNN and
others everyday. This goes back to the cold war and beyond, before the web
brought alternative sources to challenge the mainstream news monopoly in a
easier available manner that can be discussed by a wider diverse audience.

There has always been fake/spun news on all media platforms radio/TV/written and
been used to control populations and still goes on and is a vast on going subject
depending on your politics. Richard pulls together several related topics which
are discussed on the forum in different threads...

Back to possible Ufology and politics.....

NIXON'S SECRET TIME CAPSULE: THE UFO DISCLOSURE PRESIDENT!
DARK JOURNALIST & ROBERT MERRITT...UPDATE...4 min vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWuWd14eBwU

There is a written summery of vid on link below...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100495-Dark-Journalist-CIA-UFO-information-from-the-JFK-doc-releases-7-Nov-2017&p=1218299&viewfull=1#post1218299

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Richard talks about RT and Lionel was on RT America yesterday making that point
and Hillary was telling congress this 7 years ago. Alex & Roger stone are asked
about Nixon and Aliens by a caller...

RT Win: Clinton asks for cash as US 'losing world info war'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6sYB5d1Bu4
Published 2011
The U.S. is losing an information war to alternative media outlets, including RT.
That's the message from Hillary Clinton to Congress members, who are questioning
the State Department's US $47 billion budget request for next year. And as RT's
Gayane Chichakyan reports, the U.S. Secretary of State says Washington needs to
step up its propaganda efforts.
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#FakeNewsMedia Sockpuppets Blast Sinclair's "Must-Runs" Without Even Reading the Freaking Message
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Published on 5 Apr 2018..RT America..Lionel Media.
Even the NYT noted the horrors of this nonstory: David D. Smith, the chairman of
Sinclair Broadcast Group, says the media is getting his company all wrong.
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Did Nixon See Space Aliens?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9m_LVsxXUc
Published on 5 Apr 2018....Info wars..
Did President Nixon encounter aliens during his time in the White House?