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Limor Wolf
23rd April 2015, 17:23
Deborah Tavares interviews Dr. Preston James. They talk about school systems and the fact that children are subject to mind control indoctrination and frequency attacks at school, USA and elsewhere in the world


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJWZmE1kl1I

happyuk
23rd April 2015, 20:14
At least school indoctrination was a lot simpler in my day...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZB0i0NzOe0

Calz
23rd April 2015, 20:23
We are assaulted on so many fronts in such an obvious manner.

Why???

Why do we continue to submit when so many recognize what is going on?


They have near complete control of the "system" but ... no ...


... do we not have some ... skill?


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betoobig
23rd April 2015, 20:27
Too bad to see there is no education but indoctrination. Kids are being attack everyday in various forms and shapes. Our kids are our biggest treasure, no doubt about it.

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Daughter of Time
23rd April 2015, 21:03
A member of my family has a child who is bright, sensitive, and socially conscious.

This child has expressed her desire to dedicate her life to solving the problem of global warming, since their teacher told them that global warming is the biggest problem on the planet.

I told her to ask her teacher that if global warming were such a big problem, then how is it that the planet is a couple of degrees colder than it was a few hundred years ago?

She posed this question to her teacher who informed her that she had been ill informed by someone who is a liar, or who was just pulling her leg to make a fool of her!

The class laughed at this poor girl, whom I tried to instruct to not believe everything she hears in school. She was mortified by the humiliation she had to suffer.

I've talked to her a number of times since and, fortunately, she is very fond of me as she describes me as "super smart", so she believes me.

However, this incident has left her confused as to what to believe and what not to believe.

Worse yet, she does not understand why the school teachers would lie to them.

I guess I have some work ahead of me!

syrwong
24th April 2015, 01:33
A member of my family has a child who is bright, sensitive, and socially conscious.

This child has expressed her desire to dedicate her life to solving the problem of global warming, since their teacher told them that global warming is the biggest problem on the planet.

I told her to ask her teacher that if global warming were such a big problem, then how is it that the planet is a couple of degrees colder than it was a few hundred years ago?

She posed this question to her teacher who informed her that she had been ill informed by someone who is a liar, or who was just pulling her leg to make a fool of her!

The class laughed at this poor girl, whom I tried to instruct to not believe everything she hears in school. She was mortified by the humiliation she had to suffer.

I've talked to her a number of times since and, fortunately, she is very fond of me as she describes me as "super smart", so she believes me.

However, this incident has left her confused as to what to believe and what not to believe.

Worse yet, she does not understand why the school teachers would lie to them.

I guess I have some work ahead of me!

29582
http://www.hko.gov.hk/climate_change/obs_hk_temp_e.htm

Question everything. This is what I did regarding global warming.

If there is global warming, there must be a discernable rise in temperature over the years at one point in the globe—Hong Kong. I did some research and found that the Hong Kong Observatory provided the above chart which showed the average anual temperature since 1885, a period of 130 years. Indeed there is a gradual rise of about 2 degrees over this period. This does provide some evidence of global warming over the century. However, we can also see a more rapid cooling in the last 20 years because the chart peaks at around 1995 and a stock type of analysis shows a downward trend line of about minus 0.5 degrees for this period.
Like predicting stocks, I don’t think any meteorologist or scientist can say where we are heading in the near to medium future. I think trend-wise a global cooling is entirely possible and there have been warning of such by likes of Whitney Strieberg (day after tomorrow), John L. Casey (NASA scientist) and recently Simon Parkes who warns of a coming mini- ice age.

andrewgreen
24th April 2015, 02:16
A member of my family has a child who is bright, sensitive, and socially conscious.

This child has expressed her desire to dedicate her life to solving the problem of global warming, since their teacher told them that global warming is the biggest problem on the planet.

I told her to ask her teacher that if global warming were such a big problem, then how is it that the planet is a couple of degrees colder than it was a few hundred years ago?

She posed this question to her teacher who informed her that she had been ill informed by someone who is a liar, or who was just pulling her leg to make a fool of her!

The class laughed at this poor girl, whom I tried to instruct to not believe everything she hears in school. She was mortified by the humiliation she had to suffer.

I've talked to her a number of times since and, fortunately, she is very fond of me as she describes me as "super smart", so she believes me.

However, this incident has left her confused as to what to believe and what not to believe.

Worse yet, she does not understand why the school teachers would lie to them.

I guess I have some work ahead of me!

The thing is teachers are not lying they are regurgitating what they have been told from elsewhere.

Ewan
24th April 2015, 11:50
The thing is teachers are not lying they are regurgitating what they have been told from elsewhere.

Agreed. If you do not KNOW, (and few of us KNOW anything), then all people do are espouse their beliefs. Most people look to others as sources of information, and let's face it we cannot personally research everything. Our entire education taught us to recognise authorities (of knowledge/facts) and after 10-15 years of that we are sommewhat programmed to accept what we are told by sources that we have deemed 'trustworthy'.

This is great for anyone wishing to disseminate misinformation of downright lies and terrible for anyone wanting to discover the truth.

I would ask that people stop using the term 'global warming' as it is a definite misnomer, more acceptable and accurate is the term 'climate change'.

http://ourworld.unu.edu/en/climate-research-nearly-unanimous-on-humans-role-survey-finds

(edit: Sorry, veering off-topic from the OP)

Mike Gorman
24th April 2015, 13:51
Teachers are 'trained' the best of them feel a vocation, about 5% the rest it is a profession they can earn a decent salary and get long holidays. Trouble is they simply reflect the mainstream mediocre knowledge of the times, there may be a few authentic philosophers among them, precious few. Our schools are mass production centers for reproducing social normality, dreadful places of neurosis and repression - some have tried to create more humane, individual centric places, but they are always ridiculed and regarded as 'fringe' (I'm thinking of the "SummerHill" school in the U.K in the 1960's (founded in 1921!) one of the earliest alternative educational models) I can completely understand home schooling, but that is a tough gig for parents.

happyuk
24th April 2015, 15:22
Education of our most precious asset, our children has for too long been in dire need of a radical overhaul.

The way I see it, it is still very much based in the old fear-based paradigm, which is to say it turns out good employees (ie nervous pedants). Schools teach us how to have a job but not how to have multiple sources of income.

The world of work is changing, and people are being demoted or outsourced. This is neither good nor bad - the world is what it is. We are going to need more entrepreneurs and people who think for themselves and become their own experts instead of having knowledge force-fed or spoon-fed to them, to be regurgitated exam-time and forgotten immediately afterwards.

A Voice from the Mountains
24th April 2015, 15:48
If there is global warming, there must be a discernable rise in temperature over the years at one point in the globe—Hong Kong.

I looked up this observatory and it's located in the middle of an urban environment, and so it is subject to the heat island effect. This is one of the tricks of the global warming salesmen, since as an area's natural ecosystem becomes more and more replaced by asphalt, concrete, steel, glass, etc., guess what happens? The temperature there increases.

The saddest part of your post is when you mention the girl was mocked by her teacher and schoolmates. This kind of emotional abuse of children is one of the most powerful forms of enforcing social conformity that they have, and I can only imagine how the girl felt that day.

syrwong
24th April 2015, 16:48
If there is global warming, there must be a discernable rise in temperature over the years at one point in the globe—Hong Kong.

I looked up this observatory and it's located in the middle of an urban environment, and so it is subject to the heat island effect. This is one of the tricks of the global warming salesmen, since as an area's natural ecosystem becomes more and more replaced by asphalt, concrete, steel, glass, etc., guess what happens? The temperature there increases.

The saddest part of your post is when you mention the girl was mocked by her teacher and schoolmates. This kind of emotional abuse of children is one of the most powerful forms of enforcing social conformity that they have, and I can only imagine how the girl felt that day.

Very perceptive. The big increase in population and motor vehicles must have accounted for more than 1 degree. That would make the warming even less significant, something like less than one degree over a century. Moreover, the recent cooling is now more significant.

It is sad to see that ridicule has become a tool of education. It used to be the deadly weapon used on truth tellers and unwanted witnesses.

A Voice from the Mountains
24th April 2015, 17:01
Moreover, the recent cooling is now more significant.

Exactly. We are probably heading for a mini ice age like we had in the late 1700's, rather than a hotter planet.

Also syrwong, maybe you can help me on my thread here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?81755-I-am-looking-for-Chinese-Indian-Vietnamese-and-other-Asian-members&p=955551#post955551

Zanshin
24th April 2015, 22:35
For a comprehensive examination of the 'dumbing down' of our children, others may find this
series of lectures useful.

http://www.triviumeducation.com/

I have been working through the list as I get time - I download as MP3 and listen when I'm
performing 'autopilot tasks'.

The underlying premise is that - through the Fabian society and the likes of Tavistock Institute and
Rand Corporation, there is a specific agenda to remove the Trivium and Quadrivium (the seven liberal arts)
from the education of our children. Perhaps one could say that this has already been achieved.

These positive, solution oriented lecturers propose mastery of (or at least familiarity with) the Trivium (Grammar, Logic & Rhetoric),
as the tools necessary for students to learn for themselves any subject - rather than regurgitate facts and figures they are
told to learn.

Mark
24th April 2015, 22:48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U

grannyfranny100
25th April 2015, 14:49
Limor, what a marvelous thread with lots of thoughtful responses. Our children's education is one of many issues that deserve attention and, more importantly, action. But life always seems so overwhelming. How do I make time to participate? Where do I find others with whom to collaborate?

We seems to see the total picture as beyond our power. We give up in despair and give in to learned helplessness. The answer is the grass root approach. Go to a school board meeting, get to know others who seem to share your viewpoint and start interacting with them. This activity is as important as other parts of parenting.

Pam
25th April 2015, 15:09
A member of my family has a child who is bright, sensitive, and socially conscious.

This child has expressed her desire to dedicate her life to solving the problem of global warming, since their teacher told them that global warming is the biggest problem on the planet.

I told her to ask her teacher that if global warming were such a big problem, then how is it that the planet is a couple of degrees colder than it was a few hundred years ago?

She posed this question to her teacher who informed her that she had been ill informed by someone who is a liar, or who was just pulling her leg to make a fool of her!

The class laughed at this poor girl, whom I tried to instruct to not believe everything she hears in school. She was mortified by the humiliation she had to suffer.

I've talked to her a number of times since and, fortunately, she is very fond of me as she describes me as "super smart", so she believes me.

However, this incident has left her confused as to what to believe and what not to believe.

Worse yet, she does not understand why the school teachers would lie to them.

I guess I have some work ahead of me!


Now more than any other time in history it is essential that our children learn to use their reasoning and creative thinking abilities and exactly the opposite is occurring. As in your example Daughter of Time, not only is thinking outside the box discouraged, it is ridiculed. Wouldn't it have been great if that teacher used this as an opportunity to teach the children how to analyze data and make conclusions for themselves, rather then teaching them that if you don't go along with the program you will be ridiculed and embarrassed.

I guess when something like this happens to a young person it may be a turning point. She may decide that she needs to think for herself, or she find it too painful and turn off her uniqueness and curiosity to fit in which would be very sad.

william r sanford72
25th April 2015, 15:34
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR5ApYxkU-U


Man seen this and was instantly transported to fort madison high school/time travel is cool...and found myself yet again standing in the hall and the vice principal looking down at me and swirling sea of kids rolln by..hes got my arm held tight and that look they get.
My t-shirt was bothering the other teachers.maybe even causing the students to..????..the t-shirt that they found so offensive and inappropriate was a pink Floyd t-shirt..the back had the brick/wall scene and WE DONT NEED NO EDUCATION..was boldly printed on it..
Was told to remove the offensive t-shirt or face gettn suspended.I refused and was then led /dragged to the office where the call was made to my parents.as is....have three children in the middle of this madness..not to get educated..instead we send em to the madhouses everyday to learn to live with there fellow humans..and to deal with it.
otherwise homeschooling is the only offer and only real choice offerd with in the system.USA.wise.
and I could go on and write example after example of how the madness is fully inbedded into the school systems with the 3 wonderfull children I was blessed to help protect and raise...UP.
great thread limor.
truth and balance.

happyuk
26th April 2015, 19:30
One thing I have always strongly disagreed with was the showing of Al Gore's 'An Inconvenient Truth' in schools.

It was actually thrown out by a High Court judge in England for containing no fewer than NINE scientific errors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimmock_v_Secretary_of_State_for_Education_and_Skills

It is inappropriate, not to mention downright illegal to preach political propaganda in schools. 'An Inconvenient Truth' was made by a career politician
and is undoubtedly politically motivated. People need industrialization, jobs and food, not so-called climate change awareness.

looking-glass
26th April 2015, 20:54
Hi, don't 'like the energy' of that video. If that is what is happening in the USA ... find it hard, but not impossible to believe.

There is none of that here. Teachers (nowadays) are are so monitored, if a bit mono-cultured, but certainly there are no 'policies' about so called mind control.

That video 'reeks' of Sensationalism. Drama for drama's sake. Ask a teacher about it. Ask me.

regards