John of God - Do you believe in miracles? [Archive] - The Project Avalon Community Forum

Rocky_Shorz

23rd November 2010, 00:23

I traveled Brazil for 3 months, and midway through the trip, the shellfish... booze... intense sunshine on a party boat...

as evening approached, I kept getting sicker and sicker... my temp well over 100...

The friends I was traveling with went to find a doctor in the small town we were visiting...

I opened my eyes and through my fog saw a man feeling my forehead and talking with my friends...

He mixed a small package in water and told them to make sure I drank all of it...

I slipped into intense dreams, and finally slipped into deep sleep...

I woke the following morning, my illness was gone, I got up, dressed and stepped outside finding my friends relaxing at the pool

they looked up surprised seeing me standing there and at the same time the "doctor" from the night before came walking up.

I thanked him for healing me and he laughed and said it wasn't him, my temp was close to 105, there was nothing he could do... He said he wasn't so sure I was going to make it...

I asked what he gave me and he said a medicine that reconnected me to the light so my body would heal itself...

There is so much the modern day man has forgotten, I have a feeling with everything going on right now we are going to start hearing more and more about miracle workers...

Teakai

23rd November 2010, 00:31

Sure, I think miracles are perfectly possible.
Miracles are simply the suspension of the rules as believe them to be.

truthseekerdan

23rd November 2010, 04:25

Sure, I think miracles are perfectly possible.
Miracles are simply the suspension of the rules as believe them to be.

We call them miracles because I believe we are not in a state of harmony (balance) with everything in the nature, including our soul, body and mind. Once that is achieved through the 'forbidden knowledge', that is still being suppressed from us, it has the potential to become common practice in the near future. Even Jesus said that we will do the same, and even greater things that he has done.

conk

24th November 2010, 16:17

We do not believe miracles are possible as a regular occurence, so they are not.

The old, worn out adage, 'think you can, think you can't, and you're right either way' is so true.

As we recreate ourselves every moment anything is possibly if we fully believe it is. Our fears and doubts about ourselves, imposed by the separatist paradigm, restrict how we recreate ourselves each instant. As the Newtonian principles fall and we embrace the staggering new discoveries about our existence miracles will be common.

John_b

28th November 2010, 13:50

I visited John of God three times in 2001, 2002 and 2003. These were life changing experiences, and brought about the beginning of healing from several debilitating conditions. But the greatest benefit I got was not due to direct healing from John himself, but from actually living in Abadiania for an extended period. John's teacher instructed him to set up his healing center in that town because it lies on a crystal bed, and is therefore a power spot. Magical things can happen there. But once one learns how manifestation works under such favorable amplified conditions, one can apply the knowledge anywhere.

Gone002

1st December 2010, 20:43

If a miracle is done without a cost then it is a true selfless act and can be seen as a true miracle. Many spiritual teachers and crusaders for good have received such gifts to help others, yet the true message is never given across, we can all receive a level of connection with God while still mortal if we free are minds from what we fear, what others think, anything that clouds’ your mind and live a truly good life in the service of others.

onawah

7th March 2012, 04:53

I don't know anyone who has received a healing from John of God, but there is certainly no lack of testimonials, documentaries and witnesses of the work that he has been doing for many years.

This is the most recent documentary about John of God that I could find, though there have been quite a few over the years.
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John of God

João Teixeira de Faria – John of God – is acknowledged to be one of the most powerful trance-medium spiritual healers in the world. He serves as a channel for over 30 light-spirit entities who incorporate his physical body to heal people who come to the Casa de Dom Inácio de Loyola centre in Abadiânia, Brazil. Healing captures some of their remarkable stories on film and explores inexplicable but well-documented instances of miraculous intervention that have taken place here.

John of God

But what is the story behind the charismatic medium who works with spirit entities in miraculous healings, defying any conventional explanation? How did an obscure, virtually illiterate man living in the centre of Brazil become the hope and refuge of so many seeking health and guidance?

Born into a poor family, João’s very basic education was cut short due to his rebellious nature as a child. At 16 he left home to become an apprentice tailor, but soon found himself unemployed, penniless and starving. On the verge of despair, he was granted a vision of Saint Rita of Cassia, who directed him to a nearby Spiritist centre. Arriving there, he discovered that his coming was expected, but in his weakened state lost consciousness. Upon awakening several hours later, João was amazed to be told that he had been in a mediumistic trance, allowing the spirit of King Solomon to carry out healing through his physical body.

From that day his path was clear. Surrendering himself to God and opening his mind to the miraculous transformation that had taken place, João became a conduit for a host of benevolent ‘entities’ devoted to helping humanity.

Guided by the spirit of the great Spanish theologian St. Ignatius de Loyola, also known as Dom Inacio or St. Ignacio, João established his healing centre in the village of Abadiânia, chosen for its unique location above a powerful geological crystal formation. So remarkable has been the work carried out here that over the years the centre has attracted millions of people from all over the world. Although thousands might arrive in a single day, no-one, believer or sceptic, is ever turned away. João has dedicated his life to this service, and does not ask for payment for the healing.

João is now known throughout the world as John of God (João de Deus), a title given to him by those who recognize his status as a person touched by a higher power. He himself denies that he has any healing abilities, stating that God alone can heal and that the light entities work through him to cure the cause of people’s afflictions. When João’s body is incorporated he maintains that he has no knowledge or recollection of the work that is being performed through him during the sessions.

Essentially he remains an uncomplicated person, still defined by his humble origins but driven by a sense of mission. After more than five decades of unflinching service and countless successful outcomes, few would doubt that João Teixeira de Faria truly deserves to be called John of God.

ivaray

7th March 2012, 05:43

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Carmen

7th March 2012, 06:13

Thank you Onawah, I was hoping someone would post about this amazing man.

markpierre

7th March 2012, 07:59

Thanks for that Onawah. It's a fascinating subject.

Years ago he was a bit of a rage around the people I knew, and I knew a few that had gone to see him. I can't share any anecdotes, but I didn't hear any bad stories. There's a centre near here that I keep meeting people from. I get an urge to go feel it once in a while.

Maybe 14 years ago, I had the chance to be an assistant to Rubens Farias / Dr Fritz. It was this big warehouse full of tables. He was traveling and it was a coordinated event.
Rubens is a nice guy, Fritz is a trip. This gruff insistent German guy, who's really kind and funny at the same time. You never knew how to take him. He'd say things like "hey if you want to help you can pray" in a tone that made you feel like hiding somewhere. Then he'd give you a nod to let you know when you were back from hiding. It was cool.

If he didn't have a scalpel he'd grab anything and dig a cataract out of someones eye. No anesthetic, no pain, no infections. I watched him remove a tumor from under the armpit of a friend of mine. He's cutting and digging away, and she's laying there smiling at me.
It's really fun stuff.
He fixed a chronic back problem for me that was acting up by driving a paint can opener into my spine with a adjustable wrench. Right through the skin into the spine. What a weird feeling. He said he was sending energy into the spine. That's all he said.

Beats me. It was gone and never came back.

John works with a whole bunch of different healers doesn't he? The ones I met were almost like a healers guild. They were continually working on more direct ways to get into our circuitry.
It's like the only thing they can't bridge is our belief in death. It really controls more than we know.

Only guys who really want to be healed go to guys like John Of God or Rubens. Kind of not surprising how many of them get their healing.

We worked on a new modality project a few years ago, devised by Spirit healers. One of them was Harry Edwards, who I didn't know much about until long after. He was another strange one.

Cheers

9eagle9

7th March 2012, 14:51

Most healers if they manage to stay out of the bull**** and chakra flogging (which is few) begin to intiate usually inadvertently , the act of of transcending the limitiations of flesh. Accidentally sinking ones own physicality into flesh. Which is freaky when it happens, startling to say the least and may prevent them from going there again. It is a place where if you manage to stay out of the constructs concerning healing, many people arrive. Not impossible just rare because most healing is formed around modalities with conditions and limitations. When you get out of that limited place, things like this occur.

There's a word for it ..going to have to look it up its been ten years since I last had cause to reference. Transsubsubation? Something like that ....where the healers hand pass right through the body or whatever the healer is holding. People who can put their hands through stone is another example of this. Long time ago this ability to pass one's hands into stone was used to mine with. How crystals were orginally mined, without ripping and tearing from the earth. More mundane function. It's not a impossible manifestation its so many get tied up in limiting themselves that its not expressed very often.

I do know a field is created and its intially not created with conscious (limiting) intention and when that field is created physical matter is transcended. After that I suppose its a matter of just getting back into that place however one does it.

Neat stuff.

RMorgan

7th March 2012, 15:21

Well,

I haven´t made any treatment with him, but I know people who did with relative successful results.

A nice thing about him is that he doesn´t claim to cure all diseases alone. He advises that his treatment is much more effective if done coupled with conventional medicine.

He has indeed helped curing severe cancer cases and impressed several doctors.

By the way, I´m not sure if it´s ok to translate a name to another language. His name is João de Deus, not John of God.

Cheers,

Raf.

9eagle9

7th March 2012, 17:50

Yer right , we shouldn't, thanks for the update.

Well,

I haven´t made any treatment with him, but I know people who did with relative successful results.

A nice thing about him is that he doesn´t claim to cure all diseases alone. He advises that his treatment is much more effective if done coupled with conventional medicine.

He has indeed helped curing severe cancer cases and impressed several doctors.

By the way, I´m not sure if it´s ok to translate a name to another language. His name is João de Deus, not John of God.

Cheers,

Raf.

onawah

7th March 2012, 19:54

Wow, that is an amazing post, Markpierre!
A good example of why I continue coming back to Avalon--to hear about unique experiences from off the beaten trail individuals like yourself.
I would think it would courage to go to a healer of this sort, especially if you are at all squeamish, but some of the John of God patients say that once you are there, all fear evaporates...
So there must be a very powerful feeling of Spirit presence as well.
Thanks so much for sharing your story.
Is there a link for Rubens Farias / Dr Fritz, and do you know if they are still practicing?

Thanks for that Onawah. It's a fascinating subject.

Years ago he was a bit of a rage around the people I knew, and I knew a few that had gone to see him. I can't share any anecdotes, but I didn't hear any bad stories. There's a centre near here that I keep meeting people from. I get an urge to go feel it once in a while.

Maybe 14 years ago, I had the chance to be an assistant to Rubens Farias / Dr Fritz. It was this big warehouse full of tables. He was traveling and it was a coordinated event.
Rubens is a nice guy, Fritz is a trip. This gruff insistent German guy, who's really kind and funny at the same time. You never knew how to take him. He'd say things like "hey if you want to help you can pray" in a tone that made you feel like hiding somewhere. Then he'd give you a nod to let you know when you were back from hiding. It was cool.

If he didn't have a scalpel he'd grab anything and dig a cataract out of someones eye. No anesthetic, no pain, no infections. I watched him remove a tumor from under the armpit of a friend of mine. He's cutting and digging away, and she's laying there smiling at me.
It's really fun stuff.
He fixed a chronic back problem for me that was acting up by driving a paint can opener into my spine with a adjustable wrench. Right through the skin into the spine. What a weird feeling. He said he was sending energy into the spine. That's all he said.

Beats me. It was gone and never came back.

John works with a whole bunch of different healers doesn't he? The ones I met were almost like a healers guild. They were continually working on more direct ways to get into our circuitry.
It's like the only thing they can't bridge is our belief in death. It really controls more than we know.

Only guys who really want to be healed go to guys like John Of God or Rubens. Kind of not surprising how many of them get their healing.

We worked on a new modality project a few years ago, devised by Spirit healers. One of them was Harry Edwards, who I didn't know much about until long after. He was another strange one.

Cheers

rabbit

7th March 2012, 20:48

This is fascinating. I'd heard of him a few years back and I've been debating over the years whether it's worth it to put the money together to go see him.

Cilka

7th March 2012, 23:33

I saw a footage of this guy performing the psychic surgery. It's obvious that he is under the influence of some entity or entities. When he uses the dirty knife to poke into people's nostrils, now if that does not scare me then I don't know what else would. I had to take microbiology courses at university and just thinking about the kind of microbes living on that instrument, oh my God, that is scary. No way that I would want that guy touching my nose or scraping my eyeball with it, no matter how enlightened he is.

I read that he psychically marks those individuals somehow, and as a result those individuals become more open to psychic attacks without them knowing. I don't know if it is true as I have never made a visit to this guy.

I think that a real healer will not need to use such extremes to heal someone in need. This is just my opinion.

markpierre

8th March 2012, 10:09

Is there a link for Rubens Farias / Dr Fritz, and do you know if they are still practicing?

I'm not able to find much. Just a bit of general info, but key-wording Rubens Farias brings up a few things. http://www.answers.com/topic/rubens-farias-jr

That piece mentions a couple of things I can confirm;
The legal charges for one. Brazil is pretty full of spiritual healers, authorities aren't that anxious to take on the church. I think that if they do, they're not going to lose gracefully.
Maybe he didn't have enough Catholic icons hanging around his house. The article says he was acquitted of charges in '99 , but he was still battling legal issues when I knew him in 2000-2001.
So that was his first trip to the States, so that dates my experience with him as 12 years ago.
He had an astounding success rate, and droves pf people wherever he went. I think he'd rightly developed a habit of keeping a low profile.

Another point the blurb made was regarding the surgery occurring in the astral body. Regardless of cuttings or apparent physical removal of tissues at times, it seems reasonable. An explanation for the absence of pain or infections perhaps. He'd make incisions, but there was never any blood, and the wounds would seem healed virtually overnight.
Rubens (not Fritz) gave a series of demonstrations, and one involved removing the astral body (he called the energy body) off to the side about 2 meters from the physical body and working on it there.
He'd wink and then do something over in empty space, and the subject would raise an arm, or shake her head rapidly in response. He said he could manipulate anything in the body through the energy body.

I wasn't working so much around that time with energy, just studying and teaching, but it was a great initiation to things that came later. The scenarios showed up down the track to experience more and other interesting things.

Another interesting thing that needs a little background.

Dr. Fritz has come through a succession of channels, the last before Rubens was Arigó who was notorious with the authorities as well, http://weird-people.com/arigo-psychic-surgeon/
All the previous channels worked until their deaths, but strangely all had relatively short lives. They all had predicted their deaths and that they would be violent. Oh well, lots of us choose unpleasant deaths.

Rubens mentioned that he had a 'due date' as well, but also that he had been asked by spirit to do something no other channel had done with Fritz, and that was to fully integrate the knowledge of Fritz into himself, and thereby change the plan for Rubens departure. It was more like Rubens would find that ability in himself, and release Fritz from the need to incorporate into Rubens. I didn't really get the whole thing at the time.
What Rubens was able to do without Fritz's help was interesting enough, so I presume since Rubens is still alive and practicing that all has been going well.

I don't know how John works, but Rubens would fully vacate and Fritz would use his body. It was interesting to watch.
My last partner is a kinesiologist, but also a deep trance channel. She would occasionally be spontaneously taken over by various Spirits. It happened in her sessions quite a bit. In her sessions she always had to ask the client for permission, or the Spirit would retreat. She had to do that with me too.
What am I going to say, No thanks?
On a number of occasions what was going to be a nice relaxing massage or a bath and some romance was thwarted that way. That's how spontaneous it was.
They had their own timing, and little regard for things like driving down the freeway or eating dinner. Or SLEEP.
I had a lot of free work done on me anyway. Weird rewiring stuff. It wasn't so remarkable after a few years.
But some of these guys were really strange. Imagine being in the bathtub talking to someone who's never been a human, who looks like your naked girlfriend. I don't know how I feel about that.

It's hard to get someone who's never had a face to crack a smile.

bearcow

8th March 2012, 15:17

i posted this on another thread some months back

Quote What an excellent experience getting to visit Brazil. Did you get to meet John Of God? What was he like?
What was this Joao like? I've never heard of him.

All the stories about Joao are true, the surgeries are real. I didnt have any health issues of note so i wasn't cured of anything. I had some pm's with a avalon member regarding joao a few months ago. Ill post a edited version of the things i wrote regarding what goes on in the casa.

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I had no health issues at the time. I went to see john of god for spiritual reasons. The part of the casa that is for healing is divided into 4 rooms. The first area is a common area, It is the place where people wait around before the healing work starts for the day. There is a small platform where joao can do a demonstration of healing on someone in the crowd before things get going. Generally most of the healings that are on video are done on the small platform in the common area. The next room is the first current room. If you are told to go there your responsibility for the day is to meditate, pray, in some way create positive energy to aid the entities in the healing of others. The second current room is generally where the physical surgeries take place, also joao will ask certain people to sit in that room and he will answer their questions or ask them to be more of an active participant in the healing process. The third room is where the spiritual surgeries take place, you basically sit on a bench and entities will work on your energy body.

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The first day i was there, joao told me to go into the third current room for spiritual/energetic surgery. This was 9 years ago and i'm quite used to this sort of thing, so i don't remember too much the specifics of what they did to me that day. In general I can say that the concentration of postive astral energy/entities at the casa is greater than at any other location Ive been too. There are multiple entities/spirits working there and it seems to be a place where spirits are working in a coordinated way to help those who need a deeper understanding of their spiritual nature. On other days i was instructed to sit in the first current room and aid in the process of others being healed. I would go into a deep trance state quite easily there, more easily than any other location except times when i have trained with various masters in asia. I was there for 2 weeks, and was getting a little bored, so i asked for a physical surgery. They said ok. I asked them to do the eye surgery as for some stupid reason i was worried about getting a scar from a cut on my skin. I could feel the knife going in my eye, but no pain. The best analogy i can use is it is like dentistry work when you get a local anesthetic via Novocaine. The entities create a yin field that allows them to control the nervous system of the patient so no pain is felt. It is important to control your emotions as strong feelings of fear can override the integrity of the field and you can feel pain. In my opinion it is absolutely unnecessary to have a physical surgery done unless you have some sort of tumor that needs to be removed immediately. The purpose of the physical surgeries is to make the unbeliever believe, and to give people faith of a higher, benevolent power.

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if the trip would be financially difficult on you, I would suggest that you send a photo down to the casa, with the specific request that he be made aware of the presence of the entities when they do the healing. The area of the casa is quite remote, although not terribly expensive. It would be less costly to go without a guide, after a few days you would figure everything out, the town is not big. There were plenty of people who spoke English there who were happy to help. With oprah doing a show about it a not long ago all the accommodations might be filled. I stayed at posada catarinense, I think it cost me about 20$ a day, that came with 3 hot meals that were quite good. The people there are long time followers of joao and have some interesting stories to tell. The capital Brasilia is not too far away but it is a day trip, it is worth seeing. Its quite far from the ocean. The healing centers grounds are quite nice but in general the town is poor and the soil is quite dry, this is nowhere near the rain forest.

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Of course he is unique in the role that he plays but he is not a saint or enlightened master. He is a simple farmer, that has been through multiple divorces and health issues of his own that are a consequence of having other spirits occupy the body that is best suited for him.

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It is different for everybody, in general the spirits cannot heal someone if they do not have a change of heart. a persons fear can interfere with the healing energies and sabotage the work of the entities.

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I'm sure it did, i have experienced a lot of things like this and it was definitely one of the more important links in the chain. I guess looking back in helped me to recognize how to get into a deep trance state on a regular basis. It also helped me deal with the challenges in my life with more clarity.

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You are aware that Joao does not do any of the healing himself? Spirits/entities take over his body and they do the work, he is by his own account a regular guy with a very unique role to pay.

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Did you get to inbibe, in so far as the famous ayahuasca vine is concerned?
No, they dont do that in the casa. Joao is associated with the catholic faith, he is not a shaman.

9eagle9

8th March 2012, 15:36

What is a real healer?

Someone who heals. Are the people who go to see hm cured of what afflictes them? Yes? Then he is a healer. No? Then he's probably not. That's common sense.

Healing is defined by accomplishment. If people walk away sick still or overun with microbes, common sense would tell me he's not a healer. Healing is also a two way street. One has to want to be healed. If they don't very likely they won't be.

What is more difficult to accept is that we can do this on our own without having this performed on us. Without having to jab microbe laden pens into us we can heal ourselves by healing what is afflicting the psyche. Spiritual healing defines dis-ease as diseases of the psyche. Allopathic medicine doesn't.

I can mark all sorts of individuals in this forum as open to psychic attack. Attack on the psyche, I'm not sure what sort of argument you are forming here. Yuoud have to present the evidence of those who felt they were more vulnerable to psyche attack after visiting this man. Is it themselves that feel attacked, or the program that is running the disease that feels attacked? If I were disease iin someones body and someone dug me out , I'd certainly feel attacked...lol. Disease is a sort of program running in the mind, if you begin to abate it, then some portions of the psyche will feel attacked.

Understanding what the psyche is helps us to understand psychic attack. Disease a sort of auto immune program running in the psyche where the psyche is attacking the body, resulting in disease.

I saw a footage of this guy performing the psychic surgery. It's obvious that he is under the influence of some entity or entities. When he uses the dirty knife to poke into people's nostrils, now if that does not scare me then I don't know what else would. I had to take microbiology courses at university and just thinking about the kind of microbes living on that instrument, oh my God, that is scary. No way that I would want that guy touching my nose or scraping my eyeball with it, no matter how enlightened he is.

I read that he psychically marks those individuals somehow, and as a result those individuals become more open to psychic attacks without them knowing. I don't know if it is true as I have never made a visit to this guy.

I think that a real healer will not need to use such extremes to heal someone in need. This is just my opinion.

Avuso

9th August 2015, 15:14

John of God is fairly well known by now, interviewed by the likes of Oprah, but perhaps some have not heard of him or considered him as an option for healing. I will offer some information on the practicalities of receiving healing, as well as my own experience and reflections. My sources are two books I recently read, John of God: The Brazilian Healer Who's Touched the Lives of Millions by Heather Cummings and Karen Leffler, and Cosmic Healing: A Spiritual Journey with Aaron and John of God by Barbara Brodsky.

João Teixeira de Faria, who prefers to be called Medium João rather than John of God, is a humble Brazilian man who though illiterate is able to incorporate a variety of spirits, or entities, and successfully operate on people from all over the world who need healing. A large number of other spirits are involved in the operation, and dozens of other mediums are required to support the work each day. Casa de Dom Inacio, sometimes called the spiritual hospital of the world, is open in Abadiânia, Brazil Wednesday to Friday.

Medium João says it is not him who heals; it is something between you and God. The entities prefer to address the root karmic cause of the physical problem, but if someone is in dire straights they can help relieve the physical distortion. But it is likely to quickly return in one form or another if the underlying emotion or mental cause is not healed. Therefore, much of the healing occurs in meditation, dreams, synchronicities, deep conversations, and other intuitive events. The physical location over natural crystals offers a high vibration conducive to healing and connecting with Spirit.

There are several options available for those interested in healing. People often have positive experiences visiting the Casa with guides. They take care of you, offer translations, and provide peers to share the experience with. A list of U.S.-based guides, along with other practical details, can be found here: http://www.friendsofthecasa.info/?page=group-travel-usa-ca

But for those like myself who have not found the opportunity, time, or money for such a trip, there are several other options available. The most basic is simply sending a picture for a blessing. One step up from this is sending a picture with you date of birth and a problem or two and requesting herbs to be prescribed and sent to you. Both of these are done through a third party, either a guide via the Internet or personal friend who is physically there. The herbs are made of passionfruit and don't have any medicinal effect, except for the fact that they have been energetically charged or blessedly the entities specifically for you. You are asked to follow a dietary protocol while you take the herbs. The last option is for those who want psychic surgery remotely. Someone goes and represents you at the Casa, while you receive help wherever you are.
Two places (of many) who can get and send you herbs are:
http://sacredlighttours.com/wordpress/herb-request ($65 including shipping) and
http://kathysouth.com/sendphoto/
($60 for the first bottle of herbs)

John of God and also travels and will visit the Omega Institute in New York at the end of Srptember, but the workshop is unfortunately already sold out.

My own positive experience with the Casa is minor compared to many. I was struggling with eczema, something that first appeared when I was 10 or so and went away, but was then replaced by allergies. I was born with asthma, so for the entirety of my life I've had one of these three conditions, though always separately. Anyway, the eczema was particularly bad, so I decided to seek help, and ordered herbs from the Casa. Of course, after reading about him I was not only interested in the physical aspect, but wanted a more profound shift in my life. This was good because the journey to health involved a powerful release of grief, one emotion linked with eczema. In addition I followed the dietary recommendations in John Pagano's book Healing Psoriasis, which I feel helped, though to what degree I'm not sure.

While taking the herbs, I got sick several times, with next to no external reason. My stomach would get upset, empty the bowels, and a fever would last for a day or two or three. The itchy skin then changed to small pimples, and then after 2 months of taking the herbs the problem went away completely. I believe this was a process of detoxing physical and emotional toxins.

For other people's experiences, see here: http://www.friendsofthecasa.info/index.php?page=adriana-s-story

If you or someone you know is sick, I hope you find healing in body, heart, mind, and soul. Perhaps John of God can help.

HaveBlue

24th December 2018, 07:30

John of God The Pope of Channeling 300 SEX ACCUSATIONS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpd35v7IZ4Y

Hervé

24th December 2018, 11:43

Brazilian 'miracle healer', who shot to fame from Oprah appearance, faces arrest in sex abuse probe (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-healer-abuse/brazil-miracle-healer-who-appeared-on-oprah-faces-arrest-in-sex-probe-idUSKBN1OB2VS)

Anthony Boadle
Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-healer-abuse/brazil-miracle-healer-who-appeared-on-oprah-faces-arrest-in-sex-probe-idUSKBN1OB2VS)
Wed, 12 Dec 2018 21:24 UTC

https://www.sott.net/image/s25/501686/large/brazilian_spiritual_healer_joa.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s25/501686/full/brazilian_spiritual_healer_joa.jpg)

Police are investigating accusations by over 200 women that a self-proclaimed Brazilian faith healer, who became a celebrity after appearing on a show hosted by Oprah Winfrey, sexually abused them while they were seeking spiritual guidance and treatment.

Prosecutors have requested the arrest of João Teixeira de Faria, known as "John of God", from a court in Abadiania, a small town in central Brazil where he has his spiritual center, a law enforcement source with knowledge of the matter told Reuters on Wednesday.

Since the first accusation was aired on television on Friday, 258 women - some of them foreigners - have come forward accusing Faria of abuses, according to the prosecutors' office for the state of Goias where Abadiania is located.

Faria, who became internationally famous when Winfrey broadcast a report on his psychic healing methods in 2013, maintained on Wednesday that he is innocent, in his first comments since the scandal began. He denied the accusations and said he would comply with the law.

The first accusation was made on a TV Globo program on Friday by Dutch choreographer Zahira Maus who said Faria sexually assaulted her. Globo TV spent three months investigating the story and interviewed a dozen other women who said they had been abused by the healer.

Faria's fame has been boosted by supposedly miraculous surgeries he claims to have performed with his hands and without anesthesia.

Winfrey said in a statement that she visited Faria's center in 2012 to explore his controversial healing methods for an episode of "Oprah's Next Chapter" that aired the following year, she said.

"I empathize with the women now coming forward and hope justice is served," she said.

The scandal has shocked the town of Abadiania, whose economy has become dependent on the tourism brought by Faria's healing center, which opened in 1976. Thousands of Brazilians and foreigners flocked there but the industry has now come to a halt.

Some followers of Faria have rejected the accusations and harassed reporters who descended on the town on Wednesday for the first public appearance of the healer since the scandal broke, receiving him with loud cheers and applause.

"Brothers and my dear sisters, I thank God for being here. I want to comply with Brazilian law. I am in the hands of the law," he told them in a brief appearance. "John of God is still alive," he said.

A Voice from the Mountains

25th December 2018, 01:26

I was surprised by the sex assault accusations against John of God until I read that Bill Clinton had personally traveled to see him. Then I realized, yeah, he is probably involved in nefarious business. The truth will come out.

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Inaiá

25th December 2018, 04:48

May the Justice be served and no more women be assalted in any form.

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enfoldedblue

25th December 2018, 10:16

I have a friend who went to see John of God three times. She has had stage 4 cancer for 3 years. While she still has cancer, she believes he has helped her tremendously. According to her John of God is innocent. She assumes that the pharmaceutical companies are behind this situation.

Initially I thought it possible, but once i found out there were hundreds of accusers including his own daughter, the possibility of his innocence disappeared for me. But regardless of the numbers of people accusing him my friend, and apparently many of his followers, are convinced that he has done nothing wrong. They have a petition circulating to have him released from prison.

greybeard

25th December 2018, 10:46

Unfortunately those who have a gift, be it as a healer or anything else, get put on a pedestal and think they can do nothing wrong, that they are above reproach.
In fairness they can also become the target for those that have an agenda.

As a small example
I had an advert in the local press for my hypnotherapy practise.
Two people from "Trading Standards came to call.
I had been reported for miss-leading statements in the advert.

One of the officials was very combative.
It seems they thought that the advert was implying that I was a qualified Dr.
Not the case.
When they saw my diploma--which I used word for word in the advert--it was obvious that the advert was accurate and true in every respect.

I was trained at St Ann's Hospital London along with qualified Psychiatrists--nurses and ordinary people just like me.

The officials would not tell me who had instigated the complaint.
They did not apologize and suggested that I dropped the reference to St Anns in my advert.
They did say no case to answer though.

So someone anonymous had an agenda.
My practice flourished anyway till I retired.

Chris

Inaiá

26th December 2018, 05:01

I have a friend ... While she still has cancer, she believes he has helped her tremendously. According to her John of God is innocent. She assumes that the pharmaceutical companies are behind this situation.

Initially I thought it possible, but once i found out there were hundreds of accusers including his own daughter, the possibility of his innocence disappeared for me. But regardless of the numbers of people accusing him my friend, and apparently many of his followers, are convinced that he has done nothing wrong. They have a petition circulating to have him released from prison.

I percieve it the same way. This seems not to be the case of agenda driven acusations. There are more then 500 acusations so far, coming from people who do not know each other and live in diferent regions of the country.

I don't doubt he might have done healings someday. If he ever was genuine, though, i think that, as he fell, his energy source, as well as the intentions behind it, unfortunately changed.

Let's hope Justice will be served and that, with the exposure of this tragedy, others may be also revealed, or prevented.

lunaflare

26th December 2018, 14:31

Some thoughts having read this interesting thread...

I have not been to this centre, Casa de Dom Inacio in Brazil. I have read about people's experiences, however.
I suspect much of the healing can be attributed to the land itself; the location is described as having great spirit and high frequency; a place where miracles happen (the electromagnetics/vortex point/likelihood of living deepwater wells).

Also, for many years, people have been in constant states of meditation. This creates a vibe of wellbeing and peace. If people have "faith" there is a stronger possibility for body-mind-spirit to move to greater balance.
Perhaps John of God is simply a symbol-- like the holy centre of Lourdes (fancy Cathedral/Grotto). It is the stream of water discovered by a young Bernadette that provides the healing...and our ready willingness to be "healed"

Sadly, it is very possible that these allegations of sexual abuse carry truth. People readily give their power away (not excusing John the Man's actions)--just his status. John of God is a pretty powerful epithet!!

ripple

26th December 2018, 16:16

On one hand, we know that placebos produce significant positive results and that patients who are informed that they will receive only placebos for their treatment also show marked condition improvement .
On the other hand, we have at least 300 separate allegations of various types of sexual assault .
Isn't that what is called , Game Over , with court confirmation to finalise matters ?

prc

26th December 2018, 21:22

Caliban

26th December 2018, 21:40

Well, hey, Oprah and Wayne Dyer promoted him so he had to be tip-top, right?

Check out some videos of him, especially the 60 minutes Australia one --- he comes off like a real creep. And what's with that throne and people kissing his hand like he's the Pope. Ridiculous. And he's the one that claimed "the healings don't come from me."

When will we learn?

Bill Ryan

26th December 2018, 21:43

A Voice from the Mountains

26th December 2018, 22:39

John of God is being accused of raping around 300 women, he is in jail right now and he is being charged of illegal possession of weapons, money and precious stones, he is suspect of being a chief of a criminal organization. And Casa DOm Ignacio was closed because it was manufacturing medicine in a large scale without a license.

This is what exactly modern feudalism looks like.

One guy sets himself up as a local kingpin. He engages in whatever criminal activity he wants to, and as long as he cooperates with the regional and national criminal networks, he's protected and virtually untouchable. He runs the place, just like a mobster.

In places like this, the only rule of law is whatever law these mobsters impose on their communities. Add in what the tech giants are doing with drones, robots, and AI, and you can really come up with some nightmare scenarios.

prc

26th December 2018, 22:50

From all the abuses of John of God, there is one that causes surprises : His daughter.

Daughter of João de Deus reports abuses she would have suffered from the medium, In an interview with Espectacular Sunday, Dalva says that the abuses began during childhood. She still reveals that she thought about denouncing her father, but she did not do it out of fear. "I feared for my children's lives," he says.

Here is the video of the TV program where his daughther gives an interview. Unfortunately is in Portuguese, but those that speak spanish might be able to understand it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHAX4L8k8GY

Hervé

27th December 2018, 01:05

Zanshin

27th December 2018, 01:29

For those who don't speak portuguese (like myself) -

This seems to have been written in portuguese and put through google translate:

https://lakishajj.wordpress.com/2018/12/12/brazilian-john-of-god-accused-pedophile-by-daughter/

gigawatt

27th December 2018, 13:55

This thread has turned into a witch hunt.

Are we dismissing his abilities or talents because of his potential transgressions? Was Bill Clinton any less of a President?

The core message of the author who started this thread was to offer an alternative to seeking aid in times of suffering.

Can we come back to the source and intent of the thread?

ripple

27th December 2018, 14:49

DeeMetrios

28th December 2018, 05:20

This thread has turned into a witch hunt.

Are we dismissing his abilities or talents because of his potential transgressions?

Can we come back to the source and intent of the thread?

I can only speak for myself , but there seems little , if any , hard evidence that he was/is a healer .
But lots of hard evidence that he is a wretched person who needs to be removed from society and punished for his hideous past .From legal process .
To me that is the nub of the matter and must remain primary .

I think you know very little about him ripple & yes there may be tons & tons of evidence that he is wretched but there are thousands upon thousands of people who have benefited & been healed by coming into contact with that area Abidiania & the healing energy & benevolent spirits that inhabit it .
So im glad yr only speaking for yrself ...perhaps you can read one of his books to learn a bit more about him & what gets done at the Casa .

Anyway , for you ripple & others that do not know , i will try to explain a bit about him very briefly .
He is a trance channel , very different to the many who just close there eyes in meditation & allow entities speak thru ....eg Bashar , Kryon etc etc .
John has the ability to have his eyes open & go about doing what he did whilst his soul/concousness was somewhere else & the spirits incorporate into his body & control it .
John also has the ability to allow a number of various deceased doctors come & go thru his body to do healing in one of his sessions , the ones that meditated around were he sat also brought in healing entities as did the hundreds who sat in current ( meditation ) in the building helping .
My two weeks their left me with no doubt as to the powerful loving healing energy their in Abadiania .
Every picture i took , i captured orbs & other phenomena that defies logical explanation .
Others that i travelled with even saw the orbs with their eyes & captured video footage in their rooms & elsewhere , so i can only imagine what others with higher vibration & more deeper spiritually see & experience .
My time their was beautiful & to this day i meditate regularly & believe many individuals like John exist all over the world & like John says its not him that heals but god ( miracles from beyond the veil) & its not a go once n yr done thing , you must work at it & stay humble , etc etc ......

Now , i cannot judge this man but i can inform you here that this has all happened before to this man & he was acquitted .

It is possible that dark molesting evil entities (ghosts) also find their way into his body incorporating it & actually doing what he is being accused of ?
If this time he guilty & has transgressed so be it .... throw the book at him !
because he also an obligation with his gift to keep it pure .

Anyway , all this will not change my new found belief & views on how gifted humans can heal & assist us heal .
I was their in 2012 & my incurable disease has either halted or slowed progressing & many times i feel it has reversed as well , as i really shouldn't be here typing according to what so called specialists all said to me back in 2001 & 2002 .

cheers

Delight

28th December 2018, 06:25

I have not been to this centre, Casa de Dom Inacio in Brazil. I have read about people's experiences, however.
I suspect much of the healing can be attributed to the land itself; the location is described as having great spirit and high frequency; a place where miracles happen (the electromagnetics/vortex point/likelihood of living deepwater wells).

Also, for many years, people have been in constant states of meditation. This creates a vibe of wellbeing and peace. If people have "faith" there is a stronger possibility for body-mind-spirit to move to greater balance.
Perhaps John of God is simply a symbol-- like the holy centre of Lourdes (fancy Cathedral/Grotto). It is the stream of water discovered by a young Bernadette that provides the healing...and our ready willingness to be "healed"

Sadly, it is very possible that these allegations of sexual abuse carry truth. People readily give their power away (not excusing John the Man's actions)--just his status. John of God is a pretty powerful epithet!!

These are all aspects of the Casa that could be powerful and worked for some of the millions who came to seek help.

I would like to believe that John of God (JOG) is a true healer and spiritual man but the evidence is strong that not only was he abusing selected women and girls, he was also amassing large sums of cash for his own benefit. He was a powerful man in the local region's community and he has a very mixed reputation.

There is strong evidence that his behavior has been known by volunteers and employees for many many years and allowed to continue. Apparently some justified his behavior because he was supposedly doing great good. Others were intimidated to be silent either through fear of JOG's "minders" or psychic attack.

Brazil has a religion called Spiritism with millions of followers. In that religion, mediums are said to have reincarnated after causing great harm in past lives. The ability to be a channel for healing is seen as a way of pentence for past sins. Interestingly, though JOG proclaims he uses the method of spirit mediumship, he has separated himself from the Spiritist Church doctrine and its strict ethical practice.

If anyone is interested, I wrote a blog about my observation that the abuse could not have happened without the ongong complicity of a community surrounding him. I think that in addition to the "outing" of particular abusers, it is vital for the dismantling of systems that support abuse. This means that it is not enough to "punish" perpetrators but to understand how even well meaning participants in abusive systems are the reasons serial abuse can persist. I do want to call out this wide spread complicity which is ignorance at its lowest common denominator.

http://www.celestialhealing.com/2018/12/abuse-takes-village.html#more

In the Catholic church system, priests are raised to a staus above other humans because they can offer the sacraments. This attitude allowed the church for centuries to compartmentalize wide spread evil acts. The publicity in the 21st century is important but the people still will grant priests special staus. It is true that people in "churches" worldwide defer to priests and clergy, seeing them as holy authorities and closer to god. JOG was another case of raising a man to the status of a special being seen to be intimate with the spirits and god.

It is positive that people accessed healing at the Casa but there are other explanations for the good outcomes SOME people experienced. Only some people accessed miracles. With an objective eye, one could begin to identify many factors that allowed some to heal. The biggest component is a valuable HUMAN capacity to use placebo to trigger the INNATE healing ability.

The very effort to visist Brazil like a pilgrimage could trigger healing. The real love and goodness of fellow travelers and Casa volunteers could trigger this capacity. We do NOT need healers IMO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(a million exclamation points). Yes, we do need to access healing.

What we need is to learn how to heal OURSELVES by understanding that this is not some special dispensation but our own biophysical function which in most is dormant. We also can support our companions through lending our excess biophysical energy. It is not a mystical process at all except that people do not recognize or cultivate it.

Therefore a whole new direction needs to be taken to eliminate the general condition where a man like JOG could capitalize on the hopeful, vulnerable, desparate seekers who are first of all in a de-energized state when they became "ill" and second of all out of touch with how this de-energized state might be restored at will. We are universally blessed through our own access to an UNLIMITED source of life force. But we must be receptive.

The science is available for those willing to study and to practice.

Caliban

28th December 2018, 15:36

It is possible that dark molesting evil entities (ghosts) also find their way into his body incorporating it & actually doing what he is being accused of ?
If this time he guilty & has transgressed so be it .... throw the book at him !
because he also an obligation with his gift to keep it pure .

Anyway , all this will not change my new found belief & views on how gifted humans can heal & assist us heal .
I was their in 2012 & my incurable disease has either halted or slowed progressing & many times i feel it has reversed as well , as i really shouldn't be here typing according to what so called specialists all said to me back in 2001 & 2002 .

cheers

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DeeMetrios, I am delighted that your illness has gone into remission or been totally abated. However it happened.

But to cast his actions off on "evil entities incorporating into his body" goes beyond the pale. Is that our standard?? How can it be? I think you are sincere but that is a very large Cop-Out.

Just because "good things" or even "miraculous" things happen around someone (or their physical area) doesn't mean bad things are also--or CAN also be happening. We have to really grow up here. Papa and Mama may have given us lots of hugs -- but they may also have put our hands on the stove. For whatever their reasons are--it doesn't diminish the pain.

DeeMetrios

29th December 2018, 03:45

you are correct caliban , :bowing: he should not have done what he did ... "even mere mortals know right from wrong"

Caliban

29th December 2018, 05:41

you are correct caliban , :bowing: he should not have done what he did ... "even mere mortals know right from wrong"

It doesn't look good for him now, or his community. So many years of building it up, a community of healing, of prayer, of gathering together in peace, and if this is true, even a bit of it... heartbreaking. But, the investigations still need to be done and in a thorough way. It's just sad and one really wonders -- how could it have gone on so long? Are we that afraid to spoil "the party" ?

A Voice from the Mountains

29th December 2018, 06:09

Bill Ryan

29th December 2018, 15:59

My purely speculative guess:

He had some kind of capacity (or vulnerability?) to be a channel for entities... like having a door wide open, or puppet strings all laid out and available.

Entities, of course, can be benevolent and altruistic, mischievous, malevolent, or sometimes (literally) insane.

It may have been that any or all of those non-human influences may have been acting through him, all his life. Maybe even competing to use him.

To a lesser extent, of course, that can apply to any one of us. The key to human responsibility to stand up for and defend one's sovereignty, whatever influences are there, and make one's OWN choices, despite what Christians might call 'temptation'.

Caliban

29th December 2018, 16:45

a community of healing, of prayer, of gathering together in peace

Now that you mention it, that's not so different from the Catholic Church, huh?

The people who are capable of the worst atrocities are the ones who refuse to realize that everyone has a dark side to their personality, that no one's poop doesn't stink. You can't guard against the shadow if you refuse to acknowledge that it even exists, and try to keep it suppressed in your unconscious.

If they like to pretend to be angels or perfect saints, watch out! It was the Puritans who burned the "witches" at Salem.

"Everything that’s real in life has a shadow. And I’m dealing with the shadow of us all.”

That's a quote from this article: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/28/nyregion/sir-shadow-maestro-of-the-last-of-the-bowery-flophouses.html It's about the last denizens of an old Bowery flophouse in NYC. He's a poet and artist who changed his name early on to -- here it comes -- Sir Shadow.

That's what I'd call a synchronicity.

DeeMetrios

30th December 2018, 01:20

prc

10th January 2019, 21:28

I would like to report that right now, John of God is being acused of enslavement of women with the objective to get them pregnant to trafck the babies of those women kept in enslavement.The countries that were receiving those babies were UsA, EUROPE and Australia.

lunaflare

11th January 2019, 06:28

John is an example of a man who abuses his position of power. It is a conscious choice, to sexually and psychologically abuse women and children. John continues this behaviour because he lacks moral fibre and because people choose to look away. Our relationship to "power" can be a reflection of our health.
John is not a healthy man; physically or mentally.
The scales, eventually, will be righted and Justice will be served.

BMJ

23rd December 2019, 13:00

Brazil spiritual healer sentenced to 19 years for four rapes

RIO DE JANEIRO (AP) — A spiritual healer in Brazil known as João de Deus, or John of God, received his first prison sentence on Thursday following a deluge of sex abuse allegations since late last year.

A judge in Goias state issued a sentence of 19 years and four months for four rapes of different women, according to a statement from the court. Lawyers for the 77-year-old João de Deus said in a statement that they will appeal the decision.

João Teixeira de Faria drew people from all over the world to his small city two hours west of capital, Brasilia, with promises he could treat everything from depression to cancer, and attended to as many as 10,000 patients per week. Hundreds of women, including his daughter, alleged he regularly engaged in abuse ranging from groping to rape.

Even Oprah Winfrey visited João de Deus in 2012 to interview him for her talk show, and called him “inspiring." After the accusations surfaced, Winfrey issued a statement saying she sympathized with the alleged victims and hoped they receive justice.

João de Deus is facing additional cases related to 10 sex crimes, according to the court's statement.

Link: https://news.yahoo.com/brazil-spiritual-healer-sentenced-19-195501684.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly90LmNvLzlRVDJsNFZMM0Y&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAALi2IrXoLrkJJuk5e1qLrGp2xjJMYVWGRGh5MjXC1Xfot3I7b7P4o1Qjwhvn8o5usBfsE24xxcZXgE GN8uKBnlmA8dL_ZE5XyR2vo9y3_3TuUSBkK4zdhfPJeX9XmlCZ8X3fx1cFXKhkMLWtpgD5xIsFQk7Lr4qAy8N9jFUbcP8M

Pris

15th July 2023, 04:42

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Related to topic of thread...

Brazilian Faith Healer Touted by Oprah Sentenced to Additional 99 Years for Multiple Rapes

https://www.westernjournal.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/John-of-God-Oprah-817x429.jpg

João Teixeira de Faria, a self-proclaimed faith healer from Brazil, has been handed a 99-year prison sentence for multiple sexual crimes, that country’s Agencia Brasil reported Monday.

Known as “João de Deus” or “John of God,” Faria gained international recognition for his alleged healing abilities and attracted a following that included media personality Oprah Winfrey.

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For decades, Faria operated from his modest town in Goiás, Brazil, drawing people from all walks of life to seek his assistance.

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However, the tide turned in December 2018 when a colossal scandal unraveled: More than 300 women came forward to say Faria had sexually abused them after they sought his spiritual guidance, CNN reported at the time.

One year later, he was sentenced to 19 years in prison for raping four different women.

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The 99-year sentence handed down Monday involved eight victims whom he abused between 2010 and 2018, according to Agencia Brasil.

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Agencia Brasil quoted Faria’s attorney as saying he intends to appeal the decision.

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If the scale of his sexual crimes wasn’t disturbing enough, an activist who helped to bring him to justice also accused him of running a “sex slave farm” for a baby trafficking operation.

Sabrina Bittencourt said young girls were held captive and raped to produce babies, who were subsequently sold to childless couples worldwide, the U.K.’s Daily Mail reported in February 2019.

She said the girls were murdered after 10 years in the operation.

Just days after Bittencourt made these allegations, she died at age 38, according to the Daily Mail. The report said she took her own life.

Two months later, however, the Columbia Journalism Review published a report about investigative journalists questioning the account of Bittencourt’s suicide and suggesting she might still be alive.

Link to entire article:
https://12ft.io/proxy?q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.westernjournal.com%2Fbrazilian-faith-healer-touted-oprah-sentenced-additional-99-years-multiple-rapes%2F