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Cidersomerset
25th April 2015, 17:22
An interesting article , but I expect we all have our own personal beliefs of where we
go after we leave our biological body and go back to the astral plain or where ever
you believe you go......

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This is what happens when you die, according to a bunch of different people who died

Saturday 25th April 2015 at 09:40 By David Icke

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THE INDEPENDENT......

This is what happens when you die, according to a bunch of different people who died

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Many of their accounts align with a recent scientific study into the subject

Adam Withnall Author Biography
Monday 20 April 2015


What happens to us when we die? It’s a question that has exercised humanity’s finest
minds since those humans have been around to have them – and has been recently the
subject of a number of groundbreaking scientific studies.Now, a Reddit thread has
posed the question specifically to those who have been clinically dead and then revived,
and has received hundreds of responses.

Though the veracity of the answers has to be taken with a small pinch of salt, the
answers from what essentially amounts to a large survey on the subject can be broken
down into three categories.

There are those who felt nothing at all; those who had an experience of light and some
interaction with another person/being; and those who felt they could watch what was
happening while they were “dead” without being able to do anything.

The first group corresponds closely with the answers of a single Redditor who officially
died twice and recently invited questions on the topic from other users.

The latter group, meanwhile, appears to agree with the work of Dr Sam Parnia, who
sought out cardiac arrest patients and found that almost 40 per cent described having
some form of “awareness” at a time when they were clinically dead.

Here is a taster of some of the Reddit users’ responses – which don’t seem to have
produced a consensus on the topic just yet:

"I was getting an angiogram done, wide awake watching the screen and talking to the
doctor. Alarms started to go off and everyone became panicked. My world became soft
and foggy and everything faded to black. Next thing I remember was opening my eyes
and hearing a Dr say "we got him back". It was really a peaceful feeling more than
anything."

"I collapsed during a class presentation one day. All breathing and blood circulation
stopped. I felt as if I was plummeting down an endless hole while my peers cried for
help. I was revived and still have no memory of the little bit of time before and after my
death."

"Overdosed on heroin, EMTs said my heart stopped. Didn't see anything, just like
sleeping with no dreams."

"I collapsed at a work meeting in February 2014 and had no pulse or cardiac rhythm for
about five minutes. My last memory was from about an hour prior to the incident, and
my next memory was from two days later, when I emerged from a medically-induced coma."

"I flatlined for around 40 seconds. It was like falling asleep without dreaming, no sense of selfe"

"Pure, perfect, uninterrupted sleep, no dreams."

"I do remember a little bit of the ambulance ride, but not from my own body. It was
seriously the strangest thing I have ever experienced. It could have been a dream, but I
saw my own unconscious body, completely flatlined, in the ambulance. I remember the
EMT who was in the ambulance with me (whom I did not see before I passed out) had
mint green hair and I couldn't remember his name, but I asked for him when I regained
consciousness about three days later."

"I was standing in front of a giant wall of light. It stretched up, down, left and right as
far as I could see. Kind of like putting your eyes 6" from a fluorescent lightbulb. The
next memory I have is waking up in the hospital."

"I was standing somewhere. There was a fog all around me, and I saw my best friend
(who at the time I'd been fighting with and he'd stopped talking to me) come out of the
mist. He told me that I couldn't go yet, that I have to keep trying, and if I promised not
to give up, he'd see me back on Earth. I wordlessly agreed, and I was instantly pushed
(into?) my body."

"I see a vivid "flashback" of myself in the ambulance being taken to the hospital and I
am stood in the ambulance looking down on myself / others in the ambulance."

"When I coded, I don't remember a sensation of floating, but I was able to recall things
in detail that happened while I was 'dead' on the other side of the room. No white
lights, no dead relatives, nobody telling me to go back, but I was definitely able to see
things that were in no way visible from where my body was. I remember speaking and
being angry because nobody would answer me. My mother told me 'you didn't say
anything, you were dead'."

"I saw nothingness. Black, long empty, but I had a feeling like everything was great and
nothing was wrong at all. Imagine how preexistence felt, much the same as post
existence."

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Sam Parnia on MSNBC :: 09/28/09

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The Today Show on MSNBC did a short piece [indirectly] on the AWARE Study on
September 28th, 2009. Dr. Sam Parnia appeared on the program to discuss their
methodology, and a few U.S. hospitals involved in the study were revealed.

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Near-death experiences; life after death?

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Published on 25 Nov 2014


NEW YORK (Jeff Abell / CBS) -- Ellyn Dye is a professional writer who didn't quite learn the lessons of life until she discovered death.

"There really is more than who we human beings are," Dye said.

She made her life-changing discovery on a drive to the supermarket 30-years ago.

Another motorist veered into her path, sending Ellyn Dye crashing.

"I felt no impact I felt nothing. And the next thing I knew I was looking down from the top of my car."

Ellyn Dye was clinically dead and viewing her own crash scene from a distance. It was
an out of body experience that sounded all too familiar.

"The tunnel of light showed up. You can see this bright, bright, light but the most
important part is you can feel it. I saw almost immediately saw all of my relatives who
have passed. You know how happy they were to see me and how proud of me they are."

Her experience confirmed what she had forever believed, that life exists even after death.

Jack Dunlavey said, "I really do think that the worst thing we can be is afraid. I never
had a question whether it was real or not it was real for me."

Five years ago, Jack Dunlavey was knocking on deaths door. Not long after pulling his
tractor out of the barn, it gave way to the soggy ground.

"Four thousand pounds is what the tractor guy told me," Dunlavey said.

All four thousand pounds overturned and landed on Jack Dunalvey's back.

"Instantly I knew I was going to die."

What happened next, is similar to what happened to Ellyn Dye. A bright tunnel
appeared and so did familiar faces.

"But when I walked in and floated into that all my concerns were gone," Dunlavey
said. "As I was in there I also saw my parents coming toward me."

Scientists have long believed that these out of body experiences were simply
hallucinations. But after studying the stories of more than two thousand heart attack
survivors, some researchers now seem convinced those "near death" experiences may
actually be real.

The study which is the largest to date, found that more than 40-percent of survivors
describe having some form of awareness long after they were declared dead.

Dr. Sam Parnia said, "In general, they described seeing lights, getting peaceful, seeing
relatives almost as if they were walking them to where they were going."

"No, there's no life after death, " said one New York City surgeon.

This surgeon says there is a scientific explanation for those near death experiences.

For as long as five minutes after the heart stops, neurons, he says, are still pumping
images through the brain.

"So when we talk about that bright light, that's happening in your oxcillary-lobe."

"Some people can't comprehend that something like that can happen," Dunlavey
said. "But its getting more common now so people are starting to listen."

For Ellyn Dye, the research bolsters what she's known for years.

"It doesn't convince me more that my experience was real because it was very real,"
Dye said. "I can say i saw all my relatives who have died. They were alive and more
alive than they ever were on planet Earth."

ghostrider
25th April 2015, 18:36
the ET's say , the body dies but the spirit within never dies , never sleeps , it is an immortal spirit on an incarnation path to evolve to a pure spirit form and one day merge back with the Creation from where it came , adding to the beauty and wisdom and love found in the vast Universe ... one day it will contract and bang create all over again new stars , planets , moons , nebula , comets , etc ... they say the spirit goes into the beyond where other spirit forms are , they remain there for 152 years , then when a new host body is ready , on the 21st day after conception the spirit returns to a material body ... spirit forms can be seen in space as a large green mass surrounding a planet or life zone ... my source - the plejaren ...

lucidity
25th April 2015, 19:30
A+ Cidersomerset :-)

WhiteLove
25th April 2015, 22:25
One interesting thing I find about many of these stories is how some loved one is present on the other side to help create a peaceful transition over to the next dimension. To me that is a very loving environment. An idea is that this happens when there is fear in the moment of death and they want to ensure that fear is removed from the experience of the transition. It could be that and also maybe because the ones on the other side has been longing for the moment of re-union and is there to meet, just like you would go and meet someone at a train station.

Kryztian
26th April 2015, 14:29
Unfortunately, the scientists interviewed can only see human consciousness as a byproduct of biological activity, instead of a phenomena that exists before birth and even conception, and one that leaves the body as it dies. I think once they question this illogical assumption and broaden their view, they might make progress.

Cristi Copac
27th April 2015, 09:48
""For as long as five minutes after the heart stops, neurons, he says, are still pumping
images through the brain.

"So when we talk about that bright light, that's happening in your oxcillary-lobe."""
the arrogance of those people is far beyond measurement. they can't cure anything and they pretend to know it all.
in a lab even if they have found some chemical effect the explanation comes after they found it and not before. they don't know and they bragg that they do. if that is not the definition of stupidity i don't know what is.

greybeard
27th April 2015, 11:11
Eben Alexander: A Neurosurgeon's Journey through the Afterlife
Published on 27 Aug 2014

In this intimate and powerful re-examination of his best-selling book "Proof of Heaven," Dr. Alexander looks at the past two and a half years of his life spent in trying to reconcile his rich spiritual experience with contemporary physics and cosmology. He is convinced that his remarkable near-death journey is totally consistent with the leading edges of scientific understanding today. 2014.

This presentation was part of the 128th Summer Convention of the Theosophical Society in America. The theme for the conference was "Science and the Experience of Consciousness," which brought together such distinguished scientists as physicist Amit Goswami, consciousness researcher and psychologist Dean Radin, physicist and psychic researcher Russell Targ, neurosurgeon Eben Alexander, and more. 2014.

One mystic said that when you die you go initially to that which resonates with your belief system.

That's another part of the illusion that you are a separate entity.
When enlightenment occurs in a life time then its job done so to speak.
If not you reincarnate over and over till enlightenment does occur.
Chris


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbkgj5J91hE

Peace of Mind
27th April 2015, 16:18
The heart pumps blood, the lungs breathe air, the kidneys release toxins, the stomach/ large intestines digest food while the small intestines readies to purge wastes. Among other phenomenal things the body can do…it does all of this without us actually being aware of it. We do not have to think and command the organs to work; they do them on their own because the body is a biological machine the soul temporarily uses in order to have a physical experience in this realm. Fascinating? Yes!! But what should be more fascinating to people…is learning "why" do we have temporary access to such nifty equipment?

Peace

Cidersomerset
27th April 2015, 16:33
Thanks Chris I was thinking about an old thread I did and could not
remember his name I knew it was Dr. something ?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?51954-Dr.-Eben-Alexander...Proof-of-Aterlife....Coast-2-Coast..-..-Afterlife-TV-interview&p=582773#post582773

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Doctor sceptic 'dies' for seven days and returns to confirm what David Icke has
been saying and writing all these years - our reality is but an illusory dream and
beyond this realm of illusory time and space LOVE prevails


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We are the Infinite Forever.

Rather than experiencing nothingness during these seven earth-days of unconsciousness,
Dr. Alexander found himself "awakening" from the dream of his earthly life, suddenly
experiencing an incomprehensibly vast expansion of his consciousness in the afterlife.
This experience is described in more detail in his book "Proof of Heaven," but here are
the highlights:

• The experience of the afterlife was so "real" and expansive that the experience of living a
s a human on Earth seemed like an artificial dream by comparison.

• There was no time dimension in the afterlife. Time did not "flow" as it does in our universe.
An instant could seem like eternity, and consciousness could move through what we perceive
to be time without effort. (This idea that all time exists simultaneously has enormous
implications in understanding the nature of free will and the multiverse, along with the apparent
flow of time experienced by our consciousness in this realm.)

• The fabric of the afterlife was pure LOVE. Love dominated the afterlife to such a huge degree
that the overall presence of evil was infinitesimally small.

The apparent prevalence of 'evil' (the reverse of 'live' or 'life') in our reality is because of the
circumstances that I explain and my books and explained at length at Wembley

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Proof Of Heaven: A Neurosurgeon's Journey Into The Afterlife with Dr. Eben Alexander III


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Monday, November 12, 2012
by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger
Editor of NaturalNews.com (See all articles...)


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(NaturalNews) There's a secret that's much bigger than politics, health freedom, science
or even the entire history of the human race. That secret remains entirely unacknowledged
-- even condemned -- by the scientific community, and yet it is the single most important
secret about everything that is. Yes, everything.

That secret is simply this: We all survive the physical death of our bodies. Our consciousness
lives on, and upon our death in this Earthly dream, our consciousness transcends this physical
reality and experiences an existence so amazing and powerful that the human language cannot
even begin to describe it.

This is the message from Dr. Eben Alexander, author of the newly-published book, "Proof of Heaven.
" I recently read the book and found it both fascinating and also confirming of several important
theories I've been developing about the nature of life and the Creator

A lifelong science skeptic who never believed in God, Heaven or consciousness
Long before this book was ever written, Dr. Alexander was a practicing neurosurgeon and a lifelong
"science skeptic." He did not believe in consciousness, free will or the existence of a non-physical
spirit. Trained in western medical school and surrounded by medical colleagues who are deeply
invested in the materialism view of the universe, Dr. Alexander believed that so-called "consciousness"
was only an illusion created by the biochemical functioning of the brain.




Read more of my writings on such topics at www.DivinityNow.com

Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/037917_Proof_of_Heaven_afterlife_Creator.html#ixzz2C2E2q6Gl

Cidersomerset
27th April 2015, 17:34
Ecnal 61 leant me this book a couple of years ago, and normally I take ages reading
a book, but this one i read in a week and it was an eye opener. usually I fall a sleep
after reading a chapter ..LOL...
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"Many Lives, Many Masters" by Dr. Brian Weiss

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eroded, however, when she began to channel messages from "the space between
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A graduate of Columbia University and Yale Medical School, Brian L. Weiss M.D. is
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The first 10 mins of the audio books on link...Cannot find full book.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xmzlix_audiobook-many-lives-many-masters-the-true-story-of-a-psychiatrist-his-young-patient-and-past-life-t_music

Many Lives, Many Masters is the true story of a prominent psychiatrist,
his young patient, and the past-life therapy that changed both their lives.
As a traditional psychotherapist, Dr. Brian Weiss, M.D., graduating Phi
Beta Kappa, magna cum laude, from Columbia University and Yale
Medical School, spent years in the disciplined study of the human
psychology, training his mind to think as a scientist and a physician.

He held steadfastly to conservatism in his profession, distrusting anything
that could not be proved by traditional scientific method. But when he met
his 27-year old patient, Catherine, in 1980, who came to his office seeking
help for her anxiety, panic attacks, and phobias, he was taken aback at
what unfolded in the therapy sessions that followed, which jolted him out of
his conventional ways of thought and psychiatry. For the first time, he came
face-to-face with the concept of reincarnation and the many tenets of Hinduism,
which, as he says in the last chapter of the book, “I thought only Hindus…
practiced.” For 18 months, Dr. Weiss used conventional methods of treatment
to help Catherine overcome her traumas. When nothing seemed to work, he
tried hypnosis, which, he explains, “is an excellent tool to help a patient
remember long-forgotten incidents. There is nothing mysterious about it. It is
just a state of focused concentration. Under the instruction of a trained hypnotist,
the patient’s body relaxes, causing the memory to sharpen… eliciting memories
of long-forgotten traumas that were disrupting their lives.”

During the initial sessions, the doctor regressed her back to her early childhood
and she strained and stretched her mind bringing out isolated, deeply-repressed
memory fragments. She remembered from age five when she swallowed water
and felt gagged when pushed from a diving board into a pool; and at age three
when her father reeking of alcohol molested her one night. But what came next,
catapulted skeptics like Dr. Weiss into believing in parapsychology, and in what
Shakespeare had said in Hamlet (Act I scene 5), “There are more things in heaven
and earth… than are dreamt of in your philosophy.”In a series of trance-like states,
Catherine recalled “past life” memories that proved to be the causative factors of
her recurring nightmares and anxiety attack symptoms. She remembers “living 86
times in physical state” in different places on this earth both as male and female.
She recalled vividly the details of each birth – her name, her family, physical
appearance, the landscape, and how she was killed by stabbing, by drowning, or
illness. And in each lifetime she experiences myriad events “making progress… to
fulfill all of the agreements and all of the Karmic (from Hindu concept of Karma)
debts that are owed.”

Dr. Weiss’s skepticism was eroded, however, when she began to channel messages
from “the space between lives”, messages from the many Masters (highly evolved
souls not presently in body) that also contained remarkable revelations about his
family and his dead son. Often he had heard his patients talk about near-death
experiences when they float out of their mortal bodies guided towards a bright white
light before reentering their discarded body once again. But Catherine revealed much
more. As she floats out of her body after each death, she says, “I am aware of a bright
light. It’s wonderful; you get energy from this light.” Then, while waiting to be reborn
in the in-between-lives state, she learns from the Masters great wisdom and becomes
a conduit for transcendental knowledge.

Cidersomerset
27th April 2015, 18:35
David Says during his explaination that " Mainstream science knows most of
this , but do not realise they have as seperate disciplines do not talk to each other,
when they connect the dots, they have already established this is an illusion.
But that does not go down well because it is to close to the truth"...


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David explains it concept laymans terms, the more I listen to this it makes more
sence and it explains for me how the universe interacts with us !



Mainstream knows all about this and although the language is different,
for me its sounds conciderably similar.....


The Holographic Universe....
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?53148-The-Holographic-Universe....



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"..the distinction between past, present, and future is only a stubbornly persistent illusion." -


Albert Einstein



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