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SabreToothMom
4th May 2015, 13:30
Hi again, I have another question for all of you wonderful people, I hope you don't mind.. I freely admit to having a complete lack of education in spirituality and only "know" what I recognize to be truth (so hard to describe) as opposed to knowing what OTHER people say are truths (I'm a sucker for Primary Sources I suppose)..
Anyway...
I'm wondering what you all make of the memories I have always had of snips of events that, once I was older, I have found out could not have possibly occurred within the confines of this incarnation's physical reality. I'm going to try to recount all of the that I remember here in one place in order to paint the clearest picture I know how.
You see, I'm the youngest of many children in my family, being born several years after the rest of my siblings. Quite a number of years before my birth my family lived on the other side of the country, yet I have a vivid memory of being with them all in the back seat of a station wagon and arriving at the home of a friend or family member out there in that distant state, and of everybody getting out of the vehicle and going upstairs to an apartment or upper level of the home we were visiting. I recall staying in the vehicle, and the feel of sunlight on me. I recall reveling in the feel of the sunlight, and then suddenly I felt that I was back wherever I had originated, and was telling somebody that I thought this was the family I was going to choose to be born into.
I recall also being with my father in the living room on the floor in front of the old black and white television set and watching a news story about Hawaii being made the newest state. It was a big deal to him. I remember asking my mother about this memory when I was about ten years old.. she looked at me strangely and said "you can't remember that. That happened more than a decade before you were born." (edited to add: Apparently this happened on August 21, 1959 - I wonder if this memory of mine was created in such a way as to make the date a guaranteed memory? Did something significant happen on that date, I wonder? Something of PA-significance, I mean... hm...)
I have a very brief memory of sitting inside a half circle shape that was much like being inside a spherical room - the wall curved behind me and also over our heads, and I was iwth some other "people" (souls?) and were listening to a mandatory talk given by someone with a higher "rank" than us (?) and it was like some sort of requirement for those who were about to reincarnate/return.
In addition to these, I have a memory of sitting in front of a square table with what appeared to be a literal game board on it complete with little game pieces, and someone asking me if I was SURE I wanted to jump back into the game considering it was more than half way through (it appeared that most of the pieces were about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way to the end of the game board). I remember saying that I was sure that I did, and others were asking me to reconsider it, and they were acting as though this was madness on my part. I was told to recall how it had gone for me last time, in an effort to persuade me to change my mind, but I was determined that I had to return.
I then have a memory of being born and being scared and squished and feeling as though I couldn't live and then suddenly it was as if a door opened wide and I was instantly HERE and it was LOUD and bright and so very intense. (For what it's worth, my mother had me via emergency surgery a month early because of toxemia/ pre-eclampsia).
I have a briefest of brief flash of a memory (not -pre-birth, but post-birth) of being in a high chair or other seat that kept me still and had a tray in front of it, and of looking at my mother and thinking at her and of her not hearing me or picking up on it, and me feeling completely upset because she wasn't responding, and neither would anything else I willed to move or respond to my needs. I felt ignored completely by the universe, and betrayed because I was accustomed to needing to do no more than think/feel/will/need something and it would generally oblige of what felt like it's own free will (even objects..??)... but now nothing would do anything and it upset me greatly. I hated being dependent on others for everything and resented that I had to go through this process all over again before I would be able to do any good work in my life.. I felt that I had a lifetime of time-wasting before me and I just was so very upset by it. I can't imagine that I was even a year old having these thoughts, but who knows?
And finally, a memory that is not pre-birth either, but which repeated itself over and over between the age of perhaps 2 and 6 or so ... the television would often go staticky from things like bad weather, someone using a hairdryer or vacuum cleaner nearby, etc... my older siblings would always come to me and say for me to do my trick to fix it, and almost without fail I would be able to stare at the television and get myself amped up inside and then point at it and it would fix itself straight away. It wasn't until I was about six years old and I was told that this wasn't because of me, and/or it was just my imagination, that I stopped being able to do this with predictability.
So... is this all just my imagination playing tricks on me? What do you all make of these memories and events? Are there records of others having experiences like mine, or should I seek out antipsychotic medication ASAP? (said as a joke more than anything, though I'm sure any number of people I could talk to about this would recommend exactly that!)
Thank you for your time in reading and perhaps replying. :)
Having read this, plus your other thread, I would say, ....... quit questioning your "self". Walk strongly in your "knowing". Of course, you already know this. I'm glad you are here and sharing your experiences.
SabreToothMom
4th May 2015, 13:56
Having read this, plus your other thread, I would say, ....... quit questioning your "self". Walk strongly in your "knowing". Of course, you already know this. I'm glad you are here and sharing your experiences.
Thank you - it will take a bit to get past the conditioning I've been subjected to I suppose. I spent over ten years heavily medicated for depression/anxiety, and that will make anyone question their sanity IMO.
Verdilac
4th May 2015, 15:02
Having read this, plus your other thread, I would say, ....... quit questioning your "self". Walk strongly in your "knowing". Of course, you already know this. I'm glad you are here and sharing your experiences.
Thank you - it will take a bit to get past the conditioning I've been subjected to I suppose. I spent over ten years heavily medicated for depression/anxiety, and that will make anyone question their sanity IMO.
You need to give it time as some things you take on board and learn/hear can take a while to make sense of, manageable bites of information are sometimes better than trying to process everything at the same time.
I very much enjoyed reading what you wrote by the way.
It sounds to me like you are a very aware and spiritual /psychic person. Very few people can recall these kinds of memories. Now that you have shared this with us please do not forget them or diminish these memories. You need to be confident that you are an aware soul inside a human body and work on regaining your sovereignty. Do some more exploring to find out more about yourself. It also sounds like you've had a positive impact on your loved ones and those around you :-)
Thank you again for sharing your experiences here.
SabreToothMom
4th May 2015, 15:17
Avalon: Turning Fear Into Love
:)
raregem
4th May 2015, 15:49
Reading your post has me tearing up b/c I long to have pre-birth memory like you and I am so happy FOR YOU !
This is so awesome! My gratitude to you for sharing. I believe you will soar and shine the more you share here. PA embraces our confusion to be sorted out like no others. PA loves you very much and I personally look forward to your memory recall. As ORPH said you KNOW. PA is the place to embrace the KNOWING.
delfine
4th May 2015, 17:28
SabreToothMom, you should read "Journey of souls" and "Destiny of souls" by Michael Newton. In these books there are lots of stories of what happens between lives, and many stories similar to your own. Souls do indeed go through a process of evaluating their prospect family before birth. I think you will have quite a few
aha- moments, if you read those books. :)
SabreToothMom
4th May 2015, 18:49
Having read this, plus your other thread, I would say, ....... quit questioning your "self". Walk strongly in your "knowing". Of course, you already know this. I'm glad you are here and sharing your experiences.
Thank you - it will take a bit to get past the conditioning I've been subjected to I suppose. I spent over ten years heavily medicated for depression/anxiety, and that will make anyone question their sanity IMO.
You need to give it time as some things you take on board and learn/hear can take a while to make sense of, manageable bites of information are sometimes better than trying to process everything at the same time.
I very much enjoyed reading what you wrote by the way.
Thank you, that's very kind of you. :)
You're so very right.. and right now I'm still finding my way around here and getting a feel for what types of information there is available to me here in addition to the natural digestion time and learning curve required. I'm enjoying the process immensely already.
SabreToothMom
4th May 2015, 18:55
It sounds to me like you are a very aware and spiritual /psychic person. Very few people can recall these kinds of memories. Now that you have shared this with us please do not forget them or diminish these memories. You need to be confident that you are an aware soul inside a human body and work on regaining your sovereignty. Do some more exploring to find out more about yourself. It also sounds like you've had a positive impact on your loved ones and those around you :-)
Thank you again for sharing your experiences here.
You're welcome, and thank you for your kind reply. I always come into my threads with trepidation and then end up smiling and feeling better about myself. I suppose that's why I said before "Avalon: Turning Fear Into Love"... because of exactly that.
I hope that I don't forget them now that they're shared! I hadn't considered that but I suppose it is quite possible. That's how it works for my dreams and any psychic impressions or intuitive/gut feelings I get in relation to missing persons cases (something I've been working on for a few years now and something I consider a personal mission in my life to continue trying to do.. I think I can really learn a lot here to help me in that regard, without a doubt). I often will get something, type it out, and then it's gone and I don't make a memory of it, probably because it's not meant to be "for me", it's meant for someone else, I'm just the means to an end. But in these stories I told here today, those are memories of my own soul's journey, and I don't think that I'm as likely to forget them because of that.. at least I hope I'm not!
SabreToothMom
4th May 2015, 19:03
Reading your post has me tearing up b/c I long to have pre-birth memory like you and I am so happy FOR YOU !
This is so awesome! My gratitude to you for sharing. I believe you will soar and shine the more you share here. PA embraces our confusion to be sorted out like no others. PA loves you very much and I personally look forward to your memory recall. As ORPH said you KNOW. PA is the place to embrace the KNOWING.
That is so sweet and lovely. I feel undeserving of all the kindness showered on me here, and don't quite know what to do with it. I feel a little bit like I'm in the middle of one of those time lapse movies of a flower growing, where they look kind of mangled and twisty-turney for awhile (that's the part I feel like I'm experiencing right now) before suddenly opening and blooming with a great big lovely flower at the end (that's the part I hope happens).
I do want - and plan - to continue to share here.. I already have been asking myself "is there anything else?" and I keep thinking of a couple of tiny little incidents, but I feel like I should just take one thing at a time for now. I'm so full of questions about the validity of my own perception due to the years and years of being surrounded by and bombarded with information that suggests people "like me" have mental illnesses, and the medications that they gave me one after another during the 90s, that it is just taking me some time to decide if I can really let my own guard down or not.. not between me and you all, but between me and myself I think... I'm still figuring it all out I guess. I'm a work in progress (aren't we all?).
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SabreToothMom, you should read "Journey of souls" and "Destiny of souls" by Michael Newton. In these books there are lots of stories of what happens between lives, and many stories similar to your own. Souls do indeed go through a process of evaluating their prospect family before birth. I think you will have quite a few
aha- moments, if you read those books. :)
I pulled these up on amazon immediately upon reading your suggestion, and see that it suggests barnes and noble carries one or both of them. I will check them out in person or order them, since I think that will help me quite a bit. Thank you for the suggestion!
delfine
4th May 2015, 21:40
You are very welcome. There´s even a Michael Newton FB-group, where many interesting discussions are going on. Maybe you would consider
to join: https://www.facebook.com/groups/122382797796840/
Selene
5th May 2015, 02:09
You may also want to look at a fascinating 1982 book: “Reincarnation?” by Ian Wilson. http://www.amazon.com/Reincarnation-Ian-Wilson/dp/0140061231/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1430791269&sr=1-6&keywords=ian+wilson+reincarnation
Wilson discusses a number of cases where individuals have clear memories of life among their family before they were actually born here; either of being near and among their parents and future family, or of places ‘off planet’ before returning here.
You might find these reassuring. You are not alone in this, my dear sister, and welcome back to here!
:bearhug::bearhug::bearhug:
Cheers,
Selene
ghostrider
5th May 2015, 03:55
inside the human being is an immortal spirit that never dies , never sleeps even in the deepest sleep , it records all thoughts ,actions , and feelings... the plejaren say if the spirit in you is very advanced it can remember past lives , meaning your real self is very ancient , like 50 million years old or older ... one of the very first things said by the plejaren was the spirit form in the human being is immortal ...
ghostrider
5th May 2015, 04:01
I remember being in diapers , barefoot , sitting on my toy tractor , watching my grandfather brush hog our land ... I remember everything about that day , it was late afternoon , summertime ... that was and is as far back as I can go ... I was born premature... my mother said I didn't have fingernails or eyelashes ... I remember sitting on that green tractor was the first moment I knew , I know , I can remember , everything I see and hear around me and can record and remember .. and what is this voice in my head ???
Thank you very much for sharing that. Definitely not crazy. I had to get over that feeling of insanity after I experienced a state of bliss (samadhi, so I've been told). Lasted for a whole year and I still get fleeting feelings of having lost my mind, but I've mostly reigned that all in. It's hard work learning to love and appreciate yourself and your experiences. I have a very strong memory of being in the womb (possibly). I was surrounded by a red/pink/veiny material, it was all around me and I existed inside of it and it was so warm and comfortable. It was my whole world and it was undulating all the time, but very slowly. Felt like a thin balloon material. I assume and like to think that was a strange moment of consciousness that I had before birth. I have no other way of rationalizing it.
Snowflower
5th May 2015, 05:23
That's just really cool, Sabre! Those are good memories! I've had only one pre-birth memory and it wasn't quite as wonderful. It was in answer to my question, why did my father hate me, and was the night my mother told him she was pregnant again. He had married her knowing that she most likely would never have children, because of a medical vaginal treatment with silver when she was nine years old. She thought he was "self-sacrificing" because he married her anyway. But he didn't want children and I was the third one. That night they had a rip roaring fight and I was exhibit number one, at about a month along.
SabreToothMom
5th May 2015, 10:04
Thank you very much for sharing that. Definitely not crazy. I had to get over that feeling of insanity after I experienced a state of bliss (samadhi, so I've been told). Lasted for a whole year and I still get fleeting feelings of having lost my mind, but I've mostly reigned that all in. It's hard work learning to love and appreciate yourself and your experiences. I have a very strong memory of being in the womb (possibly). I was surrounded by a red/pink/veiny material, it was all around me and I existed inside of it and it was so warm and comfortable. It was my whole world and it was undulating all the time, but very slowly. Felt like a thin balloon material. I assume and like to think that was a strange moment of consciousness that I had before birth. I have no other way of rationalizing it.
Yes! That is exactly what it was like!! Except then it got all scary and squishy and it lasted a long long time and I felt distressed and then was born suddenly! I don't know if my heart rate slowed or what, but there was definitely a scary moment in the squishing (maybe all babies are scared during birth - seems likely I guess now that I think about it!)... that is just so exactly what I was thinking. I was able to come in and out of my body during that time in there though, I felt like I could leave it to grow and I could come down into it when I felt like it during the process but had no choice but to come down into it and stay when that birthing time came. I felt like I wasn't quite ready yet but suddenly it was time and I had to leave everyone and come back RIGHT THEN, and like that was part of my distress for a long time here. It was almost as though my mother having a c-section four weeks early was something I wasn't ready for or expecting, and it seemed like it caught me by surprise that it was time for me to go into my body and stay there, and it was the same knid of feeling of sudden terror and second-guessing that a woman has when she realizes for the first time that she is in labor with her first child and there is no turning back, she has to do it and that's that. Except the woman in labor will only feel like this for a couple of days. A soul being reborn into a new body feels like this for, oh you know, the next 85 years or so I guess (or some of us do)...
Thank you for sharing your story, it feels so nice to know that if I *am* crazy, I'm in good company! ;)
SabreToothMom
5th May 2015, 10:08
You may also want to look at a fascinating 1982 book: “Reincarnation?” by Ian Wilson. http://www.amazon.com/Reincarnation-Ian-Wilson/dp/0140061231/ref=sr_1_6?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1430791269&sr=1-6&keywords=ian+wilson+reincarnation
Wilson discusses a number of cases where individuals have clear memories of life among their family before they were actually born here; either of being near and among their parents and future family, or of places ‘off planet’ before returning here.
You might find these reassuring. You are not alone in this, my dear sister, and welcome back to here!
:bearhug::bearhug::bearhug:
Cheers,
Selene
Thank you Selene. :) I will definitely check this book out as well! I do think I will find it reassuring, and that is definitely the perfect word for what I need - reassurance. Thanks again!
SabreToothMom
5th May 2015, 10:21
That's just really cool, Sabre! Those are good memories! I've had only one pre-birth memory and it wasn't quite as wonderful. It was in answer to my question, why did my father hate me, and was the night my mother told him she was pregnant again. He had married her knowing that she most likely would never have children, because of a medical vaginal treatment with silver when she was nine years old. She thought he was "self-sacrificing" because he married her anyway. But he didn't want children and I was the third one. That night they had a rip roaring fight and I was exhibit number one, at about a month along.
That is such a difficult story to read, and far more difficult to live I'm sure. I'm sorry you have had to live with the feelings of your father hating you. It's interesting you chose to share that story with me, because my husband had told me (rather off-handedly) years ago that he didn't want children, and here we are with three of them.. no he doesn't hate them but his feelings towards ME are certainly strong and varied at times... I have to wonder if there's some kind of synchronicity in your telling and me living such similar experiences..
Thank you for sharing.
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I remember being in diapers , barefoot , sitting on my toy tractor , watching my grandfather brush hog our land ... I remember everything about that day , it was late afternoon , summertime ... that was and is as far back as I can go ... I was born premature... my mother said I didn't have fingernails or eyelashes ... I remember sitting on that green tractor was the first moment I knew , I know , I can remember , everything I see and hear around me and can record and remember .. and what is this voice in my head ???
Hi ghostrider, do you have any idea how old you may have been at that time? Just curious I guess, no real reason for asking. I love the part where you say "and what is this voice in my head???" because I imagine that probably was something we all experienced but can't remember, and I think it would be amusing to recall.
My only similar experience was one of telling myself I needed to remember that we don't think in words/language until we limit ourselves to it, after learning to talk. And it boxes us in, thinking in words.
I don't know exactly what that MEANS, only that I told myself I needed to remember it.
ghostrider
5th May 2015, 18:06
I must have been between one and two years old ... the voice in my head was my consciousness waking up for the first time ...
SabreToothMom
5th May 2015, 22:55
SabreToothMom, you should read "Journey of souls" and "Destiny of souls" by Michael Newton. In these books there are lots of stories of what happens between lives, and many stories similar to your own. Souls do indeed go through a process of evaluating their prospect family before birth. I think you will have quite a few
aha- moments, if you read those books. :)
Barnes and Noble bookstore had both of those when I went there today so I bought the first one for now. I look forward to checking it out!
FraZZleD
6th May 2015, 02:16
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39611-A-warning-from-benevolent-ETs-about-our-future-over-60-years-ago&p=902151#post902151Just wanted to let you know your not alone. Here's my experience that I remember.....
Re: A warning from benevolent ETs about our future - over 60 years ago
I sent you a message if you wish to talk. FraZZleD
Sure hope that link works....lol. if not I'll edit and try again.
Link went in the wrong place but at least it works now.......
SabreToothMom
6th May 2015, 10:48
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39611-A-warning-from-benevolent-ETs-about-our-future-over-60-years-ago&p=902151#post902151Just wanted to let you know your not alone. Here's my experience that I remember.....
Re: A warning from benevolent ETs about our future - over 60 years ago
I sent you a message if you wish to talk. FraZZleD
Sure hope that link works....lol. if not I'll edit and try again.
Link went in the wrong place but at least it works now.......
I'm going to quote your post from there, here - I hope you don't mind!
Here it is:
Hi Bill,
In reply to your remark: "The reason I’m posting this story is to inspire and encourage others to come forward. Others have had a similar experience:"
My experience is a bit different from yours. As I remember choosing this life and what goes on prior to being born. I was with a group of 4 spirits. We travel together in each lifetime, to help each other get through our lessons. We're all looking down at all the different lives and we can see the highs and lows of each life. (We don't know how our lives will turn out because of FREE WILL). You see as we come to each cross road (high or low) we have FREE WILL to choose how we will react. The reason for the "veil of forgetfulness". We aren't suppose to remember the highs and lows so we can continue on with our lessons. We choose the lessons we wish to learn. I do remember that if I pass my lesson in this life it would be my last trip here on this planet as a human. I also knew this trip was the most important trip at this particular time. Many spirits were rushing to get here! Something huge was going to happen in this lifetime. Something so amazing that all the spirits wanted to be here to participate. Which is why the world is so populated at this time.
I chose this life and remember one of the other spirits saying "that's such a hard life do you really think you can make it? My reply was I think I can, I have to! The next spirit said don't worry I'll be right behind you I might be a few years later but I'll be there when you need me. And the last of the 3 spirits said "remember your not going to remember a thing when you get there. My reply to her was I've been doing this a long time I think I figured out a way to remember......
At about 4 or 5 years of age my memory of choosing this life came back to me while sitting on the couch. The one thing I could not remember was the lesson I chose or why everyone was rushing to get here.
When I was about 7 years old I asked my mother what a favorite number was. She said it's a number you keep for yourself. It can be your birthday because that's always a happy time. It could be your favorite baseball player like your sister has. I asked my mother what her favorite number was and she said 22 because she was born that year. Then she asked me what my favorite number was going to be and I said 38 really fast. She asked why I chose that number. I said I didn't know why it just popped in my head.
It was a month before my 38th birthday I was getting excited because I was expecting something special, it was my favorite number. But the opposite happened. I totally fell apart in my bed while I was asleep. First it started with my thumb and back, then my right foot, then it moved to my entire right arm and last but not least it hit my entire body by my 38th birthday. I was in total pain from head to toe and when the doctors said from 1 to 10 what would you say your pain level was at? I replied a 15! It was more pain than I could possibly stand. It lasted for 2 long years before it lowered to a level 8 pain then 3 more years till it dropped to a level 5 pain and 3 more years till I found my own cure. It took me a year to learn how to walk again after the level 10 pain.
After going to hell and back with all that pain I was given a reason for the pain. I was allowed the memory of choosing that lesson for my final lesson. (I saved the worst for last) I was rewarded in my sleep when I left my body and was allowed to see heaven. I was given a tour by a very nice female spirit. I saw the different levels, I heard the angels singing in the colosseum. I saw what I considered a hospital but nothing like we have here, where souls recuperate after very hard deaths. The angels watch over those souls till their souls get their strength back. I saw the akashic records or library. I went to the living museum. And much more.......
After this trip I was given a dream for 3 days in a row. I was looking at the aftermath of 911 and I felt the fear of the world. The dream was the same each night till I wrote it down on paper after the 3rd night. I woke up in fear and could not go back to sleep after each dream. I had this dream 6 months before 911 happened. It was such a mess I had no idea what I was looking at till the day of 911 and I saw that jagged building still standing. That was the building I was looking at in my dream.
About a year later after 911 I started to get schooled in my sleep. For 30 days my schooling went on with 12 spiritual beings. If anyone knows of a hypnotist I would love for them to get the information of what I was taught for 30 days. My roommate said while she was getting ready for work that I was talking up a storm in my sleep every morning and every morning I would tell her I was getting taught in my sleep. The very second I would try to write down what I had learned and it would be as clear as day when I woke up. The second my pen hit the paper my memory went away. Why would I be taught something and then not allowed to remember it?
When I told my mother what had happened with not remembering what I was taught her reply to me was when you need it, you'll know it. Why can't I know it now? Does anyone know a hypnotist?
The only think I can relate her remark to was when I was 25 years old my son burned his entire face in an accident. I grabbed him and rushed him in the front yard and kept the hose on him till an ambulance came. They knew I didn't make a lot of money and said it would be cheaper for me to take him to the hospital myself. I couldn't believe what I was hearing. They would not take one step on my property! So I told my mother to bring me the biggest bowl filled with water and I had my son dunk his face all the way to the hospital. After months of treatment the doctors couldn't believe he didn't have one burn scar and they said it was my quick reaction of getting his face wet that helped him not to scar. I had never had any burn training and I don't know why I did what I did. The thought popped in my head that fast and I reacted. So when my mother said you'll know it when you need it. Help to keep me ok with the not knowing, but now it's bothering me again. Which is why I'm replying to Bills post.
There's so much more to what's going on and I have to work tomorrow so I have to sign off.........
Will be back tomorrow.......
SabreToothMom
6th May 2015, 11:00
Frazzled,
your post that I quoted above from the other thread has reminded me of another memory I have from a time before this incarnation... when you said that you were here to learn a lesson, I remembered this occurrence which I've even asked at least one of my older siblings about (they said no, this isn't' a memory from your childhood that you've recalled slightly differently or anything, it's your imagination or something else) -
I remember playing in a small interior room of a building without windows, and there were many of us, like a whole preschool class or something - I felt very young and was wiht a lot of other children. It was very dark inside the building and there was one window high up on one door, and one of the older children got on their tip-toes and looked out the window and yelled that it was coming, it's time! And everyone hurried out of the smaller, windowless room to gather around the door and suddenly SUNSHINE!!!! The sun shined into the little square window and everyone went absolutely crazy with joy - we had been waiting all year for this ONE moment, this ONE small space of time where the sun would be out, and we all were so overjoyed it was FINALLY here! I turned and looked behind me and saw that someone coming out of the smaller room let the door swing shut behind them and I could see one or two children who had accidentally been locked in there, and they were standing at the window that was on the door of that little dark room, and pressing their faces against it and crying, begging me to let them out, and I looked towards the sun coming in the front door and back at them in the little locked room and then decided to go ahead and run out into the sunlight before I missed it and leave them there, consciously choosing the guaranteed sunlight for myself over freeing them from the darkness and hoping there would be some sunlight left for all of us by the time I got outside. The guilt was immediate and crushing. As I frolicked outside for the fifteen to thhirty minutes or so that the sun was out, I kept thinking of those children inside and the guilt and pain and sorry was crushing. I tried to enjoy the sunlight and the flowers that bloomed and died all in the span of that thirty minutes or so, and the grass under my knees, the technicolor beauty of the world around me, the sound of the birds and smell of the fresh air, but I could only think of those children inside. Finally I walked over to the door to go back inside and let them out but just then an adult came over to me me and scolded me and asked me how I would feel if someone did this to me, taking away my only chance for sun for a whole YEAR, and thinking about themselves and forgetting me. I began to cry and then the darkness came again and they ushered us all indoors and opened the inner classroom door and those children who had been in the dark were inconsolable, crying that they had missed it. I think of this memory ever so often. IT still breaks my heart so completely that it's hard to talk about. I feel as though I'm admitted to some terrible crime in the here and now.. except I think this is worse than so many "crimes"... keeping a child from the light...
amazing how bad this makes me feel to write about even now.
Anyway, I think that was a lesson I chose to learn. Some are shorter lessons, some are longer. That was a short lesson - I don't recall anything prior to that moment or afterwards, but I do recall feeling like it was an isolated lesson without a "before" or "after", whereas this life I'm inside of right now is an ongoing lengthy lesson whose purpose I do not recall outside of gaining experiences and manifesting love.
FraZZleD
6th May 2015, 15:35
So your lesson here and now is show people the light. To me the light is the truth. That is what I'm getting from your memory.
FraZZleD
SabreToothMom
6th May 2015, 23:07
I was just discussing this thread with my daughter and it occurred to me that I haven't shared here what happened when my oldest was 26 months old and my middle child was 2 months old (I mentioned it in a different thread)... I walked past the baby's room and saw the two year old standing next to his crib, and heard him asking his baby brother "Hey, do you remember what God looks like? I forget."
That was over 19 years ago now but I've never forgotten it.
(on a different note, the middle child who was the baby in this story is sitting in my kitchen RIGHT NOW telling me that he doesn't know how to explain this but he thinks he is having issues with alien visitation... he's got sores that these odd fiber string things keep coming out of.. he's concerned about implants I think... yep must be, because he just told me that while he was pulling these things out of his sores he just got a weird sudden impression in his head like "hey I put that there for a reason, don't mess with it!"... wow this is amazing stuff ... he's 19 for what it's worth... I may have to have him sign up here after I talk to him some more about all of this. He also just tried to explain to me how he remembers thinking with a brain that wasn't THIS brain, but got upset he couldn't explain it better... I sympathize, but think he explained it pretty well.)
FraZZleD
7th May 2015, 03:54
Sores with fiber strings coming out of? That sounds like Morgellons...... Has he been checked by a doctor?
SabreToothMom
7th May 2015, 10:34
Sores with fiber strings coming out of? That sounds like Morgellons...... Has he been checked by a doctor?
That's 'what he thinks it is. He's tried showing them to our general practicioner as well as a specialist he was seeing for another issue, but not a dermatologist. They say quit picking at himself and the sores will close, and the fibers are from clothing and towels. That is most certainly incorrect though. Our experiences with allopathic medicine are abysmal at best, particularly in the most recent of years. I found it interesting though that nobody in my family has ever talked of aliens before, EVER, and within a couple of days of me embracing Avalon my boy is confiding in me. Coincidence? Maybe.
Snowflower
7th May 2015, 12:15
Sabre, we all know there's no such thing as coincidence.
SabreToothMom
7th May 2015, 14:02
Sabre, we all know there's no such thing as coincidence.
Oh I know. ;)
Like, a couple of days ago after I had first been accepted to post here, I was out driving and I saw out of the corner of my eye that the vehicle in the lane next to me said AVALON across the back, so I looked at it directly and was confused because it didn't say that after all, it said INFINITI. Then I noticed the license plate holder said "STAR MOTORS". I just sat there laughing to myself at the synchronicity of my perception that avalon = infinity, with a side of interstellar approval via "STAR Motors".
SabreToothMom
7th May 2015, 14:10
SabreToothMom, you should read "Journey of souls" and "Destiny of souls" by Michael Newton. In these books there are lots of stories of what happens between lives, and many stories similar to your own. Souls do indeed go through a process of evaluating their prospect family before birth. I think you will have quite a few
aha- moments, if you read those books. :)
I am reading Journey of Souls right now, am about halfway through it (which means it is now filled with yellow highlighter because for me, reading is a very active activity).... I am noticing that this is... how do I put it... very rudimentary/elementary/clinically swayed/spit out as if it was processed by a lower spirit form without the refinements of being edited by a more advanced soul.... something. Like how you can go out to eat but it could be world-winning chef-created, or it could be mcdonalds..... this is the mcdonalds version.... I don't know that sounds like I'm minimizing the information, or somehow saying it isn't GOOD, and I don't mean that not one bit. It's like the sesame street version for people who are only ready for that level of learning, may be another way of putting it... ?
I don't know how to say it.
This book is clearly memories from hypnotized subjects, not from people who outright REMEMBER. Which I realize is the only thing it ever claimed to be, so it's fulfilling that promise. But it lacks actual KNOWLEDGE.
As such, there is more information there than I can personally access via my outright memories BUT it doesn't resonate in the way it should with me.. there are truths but they're so very elementarily stated that it's almost hard to see the parallels between what he's stating and how it actually is... you know?
ugh again it sounds like criticism, I just can't say it right.
I guess what I'm saying basically is "it's a nice story about how this doctor perceives the situation as conveyed to him by others who don't remember it themselves".
which again fails miserably. I give up trying to put it into words for now. He may well get on with it later in the book, so I will reserve further commentary for when it's finished. I most certainly feel that if I went to him for hypnotism I would no longer trust my memories afterwards though. They seem to be presented in such a sanitized and molded fashion...
UPDATED May 8, 2015 -
Now that I'm further along I'm once again fascinated. I posted too hastily, and wanted to say that I'm wrong.. it's interesting, the things that seem overly familiar to me, I take one way... the things that I do not have a sense of familiarity with, I am more fascinated by. I wonder if that is a sort of mile-marker for me to go by as far as my spiritual development goes? Hm...
Joe Sustaire
7th May 2015, 14:38
Just wanted to add my "welcome to the forum" SabreToothMom, and to let you know that I've been following all your posts and find them fascinating!
Thank you so much for sharing with us!
SabreToothMom
7th May 2015, 15:07
Thanks, Joe!
FraZZleD
8th May 2015, 06:27
Sores with fiber strings coming out of? That sounds like Morgellons...... Has he been checked by a doctor?
That's 'what he thinks it is. He's tried showing them to our general practicioner as well as a specialist he was seeing for another issue, but not a dermatologist. They say quit picking at himself and the sores will close, and the fibers are from clothing and towels. That is most certainly incorrect though. Our experiences with allopathic medicine are abysmal at best, particularly in the most recent of years. I found it interesting though that nobody in my family has ever talked of aliens before, EVER, and within a couple of days of me embracing Avalon my boy is confiding in me. Coincidence? Maybe.
Sounds like you were meant to be here if anything else for your boy. Glad you made the choice to join.
Innocent Warrior
8th May 2015, 07:49
Hi SabreToothMom ~ Great thread, I started an "earliest memories" thread a while back and there's some fascinating posts in there. There's a couple of us who wrote of memories from when we were toddlers but most are memories of infants and a couple are from pre-birth.
I sometimes go back to it just to re-read the posts, I've gained some cool insights from them, you might find them interesting too, link here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78612-Earliest-Memories/page5), if you're interested.
SabreToothMom
8th May 2015, 12:42
Hi SabreToothMom ~ Great thread, I started an "earliest memories" thread a while back and there's some fascinating posts in there. There's a couple of us who wrote of memories from when we were toddlers but most are memories of infants and a couple are from pre-birth.
I sometimes go back to it just to re-read the posts, I've gained some cool insights from them, you might find them interesting too, link here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78612-Earliest-Memories/page5), if you're interested.
Oh! I meant to post there two days ago, thank you for reminding me (even though you didn't know that I was meaning to post there.. or didn't KNOW you knew. :) )
Innocent Warrior
8th May 2015, 13:52
Hi SabreToothMom ~ Great thread, I started an "earliest memories" thread a while back and there's some fascinating posts in there. There's a couple of us who wrote of memories from when we were toddlers but most are memories of infants and a couple are from pre-birth.
I sometimes go back to it just to re-read the posts, I've gained some cool insights from them, you might find them interesting too, link here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?78612-Earliest-Memories/page5), if you're interested.
Oh! I meant to post there two days ago, thank you for reminding me (even though you didn't know that I was meaning to post there.. or didn't KNOW you knew. :) )
;)
Awesome, looking forward to your post. :)
SabreToothMom
14th May 2015, 12:50
I've just finally had time to sit down and finish "Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton. The last chapters were ridiculously exciting for me to read because finally he addresses the memories that I have myself, despite never having met me. I can't believe what a comforting an rewarding experience it is to read these recollections of other people that so perfectly match my own. It gives so much confidence to me to see that things I have always felt meant that I was somehow damaged/crazy don't mean that at all. I'm so pleased to have listened to my gut and picked up this book after it being recommended to me here!
Spindoctor
19th May 2015, 06:45
I have memories of somehow coming from a tiny, infinitesimal point,growing to an awareness that I was and I existed.'' while in a dark but noisy, warm place, then followed a kaliedascope of images one after the other, faces, places, smells, tastes which went on for ages until I realised one day with some astonishment that I wanted a drink from my Mother and told her so and was gratified that I was rewarded with one.
Jimswitz
19th May 2015, 10:20
I'm not sure if this was a pre-birth experience-time being what it is-but my whole life long I have had this 'memory' where I was on my way somewhere in the universe and was diverted here.
Being born with a physical body and no means of articulating my 'thoughts' or understanding what was being said to me,I kind of lost track of the reason for this,though I'm sure that it was explained to me at the 'time' ,somehow.
When I was about 3 or 4 years old,I had a weird dream like experience. We lived in a Nissen Hut on an old army camp in Duddingston,Edinburgh(it was about 1950) beside the Mansion House,which was a beautiful old building,not unlike the Parthenon.Over the entrance,which had Greek style Doric pillars,was a triangular capping piece.In my dream it was dark,and a blue circle,not unlike a full moon,appeared in the middle of the triangle,and a deep,loud voice started talking to me in a language I couldn't understand.I'm convinced that this had something to do with my 'pre-birth' experience,and have remembered it all my life,thinking that one day I would understand what was being said.
Now that I'm older I think it was my soul that was diverted here,as there was no concept of ego or personality in the experience.
I've never really been comfortable discussing this,but this thread has given me the confidence to write it down,for which I'm very thankful.
I hope it's not too far from the topic of the thread and that some of you may be able to help me understand what happened.
If not,I've waited over 60 years; so I can wait a little longer for it to become clear.
It's great to have a forum where I feel free to talk about this.
Jimswitz
19th May 2015, 10:24
Thanks for the info,delfine. It seems to me that these two Michael Newton books would answer some of my questions too.:idea:
SabreToothMom
19th May 2015, 10:32
Oh yes, the blue/purple light (according to Newton's subjects during regression/hypnosis) universally is said to be attributed to your highest guides. Please do get Journey of Souls by Michael Newton. I've been writing a follow up post for this thread for some time now and have it saved here, but will have to finish it and post it in a bit. Thank you so much, both of you, for commenting. :) It really is wonderful to have this place.
Jimswitz
19th May 2015, 10:44
Wow! I didn't expect that info about the blue/purple light,though I always sensed that it was important.And yes....it really is wonderful to have this place :)
Oh yes, the blue/purple light (according to Newton's subjects during regression/hypnosis) universally is said to be attributed to your highest guides. Please do get Journey of Souls by Michael Newton. I've been writing a follow up post for this thread for some time now and have it saved here, but will have to finish it and post it in a bit. Thank you so much, both of you, for commenting. :) It really is wonderful to have this place.
SabreToothMom
19th May 2015, 11:09
I've been composing the following post for a few days now, and want to post what I've got so far:
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I am going back and quoting parts of my opening post in this thread so that I can make comparisons to passages in "Journey of Souls" by Michael Newton, now that I've read it and recognized some startlingly similar recollections from other people (who were under hypnosis at the time - I have never been hypnotized though, my memories are straight-up recollections without prompting in any way. I didn't read the book and they say "oh hey I remember that!".. I came here saying "am I crazy? I think I remember something!" and then was recommended to read the book.
So, here we go:
Quite a number of years before my birth my family lived on the other side of the country, yet I have a vivid memory of being with them all in the back seat of a station wagon and arriving at the home of a friend or family member out there in that distant state, and of everybody getting out of the vehicle and going upstairs to an apartment or upper level of the home we were visiting. I recall staying in the vehicle, and the feel of sunlight on me. I recall reveling in the feel of the sunlight, and then suddenly I felt that I was back wherever I had originated, and was telling somebody that I thought this was the family I was going to choose to be born into.
I recall also being with my father in the living room on the floor in front of the old black and white television set and watching a news story about Hawaii being made the newest state. It was a big deal to him. I remember asking my mother about this memory when I was about ten years old.. she looked at me strangely and said "you can't remember that. That happened more than a decade before you were born."
Chapter 13: Choosing a New Body contains the following passage:
"...considerable weight is given to family selection by the soul. The idea that each of us voluntarily agreed to be the children of a given set of parents before we came into this life is a difficult concept for some people to accept."
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I have a very brief memory of sitting inside a half circle shape that was much like being inside a spherical room - the wall curved behind me and also over our heads, and I was iwth some other "people" (souls?) and were listening to a mandatory talk given by someone with a higher "rank" than us (?) and it was like some sort of requirement for those who were about to reincarnate/return.
Chapter 14: Preparation for Embarkation contains the following passages:
"Dr.N.: Now tell me, once you are firmly committed to return to Earth, does anything else of importance transpire for you in the spirit world?
S: I must go to the recognition class.
Dr. N.: What is this place like for you?
S: It's an observation meeting... with my companions... so I can recognize them later.
Dr. N.: When I snap my fingers you will go immediately to this class. Are you ready?
S: Yes, I am.
Dr. N.: (snapping my fingers) Explain to me what you are doing.
S: I am floating in.. with the others... to hear the speaker.
Dr. N.: I would like to accompany you, but you will have to be my eyes - is that all right?
S: Sure, but we must hurry a little.
Dr. N.: How does this place appear to you?
S: Mmm... a circular auditorium with a raised dais in the middle - that's where the speakers are."
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"I have suggested to my subjects that if the spirit world seems round to them, and appears to curve when they travel rapidly as souls, this could represent a finite, enclosed sphere. They deny the idea of any dimensional boundaries yet offer me little else except metaphors."
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"Dr. N.: All right, let's go to the Ring together on the count of three. When I am finished with my count you will have the capacity to remember all the details of this experience. Are you ready to go?
S: Yes.
Dr. N.: One, two three! Your soul is now moving toward the space of life selection. Explain what you see.
S: (long pause) I... am floating towards the Ring... it's circular... a monster bubble..."
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In addition to these, I have a memory of sitting in front of a square table with what appeared to be a literal game board on it complete with little game pieces, and someone asking me if I was SURE I wanted to jump back into the game considering it was more than half way through (it appeared that most of the pieces were about 2/3 to 3/4 of the way to the end of the game board). I remember saying that I was sure that I did, and others were asking me to reconsider it, and they were acting as though this was madness on my part. I was told to recall how it had gone for me last time, in an effort to persuade me to change my mind, but I was determined that I had to return.
From Chapter 13: Choosing a New Body:
"Dr. N.: Tell me, Sumus, when you are back with your group of friends, do you discuss the possibility of yourself associating with some of them in the next life?
S: Yes, more often than not, these close friends are going to be in my life to come, just as I will be in theirs. Some of my clutch will not be in certain lives. It doesn't matter. We all discuss our next life with each other. I want to get their ideas on details, You see, we all know each other so well -- our strengths and weaknesses- former successes and failures - what to watch out for ... that kind of thing."
"There comes that time when the soul must once again leave the sanctuary of the spirit world for another trip to Earth. This decision is not an easy one. Souls must prepare to leave a world of total wisdom, where they exist in a blissful state of freedom, for the physical and mental demands of a human body."
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I then have a memory of being born and being scared and squished and feeling as though I couldn't live and then suddenly it was as if a door opened wide and I was instantly HERE and it was LOUD and bright and so very intense. (For what it's worth, my mother had me via emergency surgery a month early because of toxemia/ pre-eclampsia).
From chapter 15: Rebirth:
"Dr. N: Where are you now?
S: (pause) I'm aware of being inside my mother.
Dr. N.: Who are you?
S: (chuckles) I'm in a baby -- I'm a baby."
"... we are given additional time for adaptation while in our mother's womb.
Nevertheless, having this time inside our mother does not mean we are fully prepared for the jarring paroxysm of birth, with blinding hospital lights, having to suddenly breathe air , and bring physically handled for the first time."
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I will post this now and hopefully it is in some way helpful to others as well, even as disjointed (and unfinished) as it is. I am simply attempting to correlate my own memories with those of anyone else, and I found this book to contain some comforting similarities coming from people hypnotized/regressed.
:)
SabreToothMom
19th May 2015, 11:13
Wow! I didn't expect that info about the blue/purple light,though I always sensed that it was important.And yes....it really is wonderful to have this place :)
Oh yes, the blue/purple light (according to Newton's subjects during regression/hypnosis) universally is said to be attributed to your highest guides. Please do get Journey of Souls by Michael Newton. I've been writing a follow up post for this thread for some time now and have it saved here, but will have to finish it and post it in a bit. Thank you so much, both of you, for commenting. :) It really is wonderful to have this place.
Here is the easiest way I can show what Dr. Newton suggests in this book, without searching for quotes (which I will still do, because I'm like that):
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SabreToothMom
19th May 2015, 11:18
Wow! I didn't expect that info about the blue/purple light,though I always sensed that it was important.And yes....it really is wonderful to have this place :)
Oh yes, the blue/purple light (according to Newton's subjects during regression/hypnosis) universally is said to be attributed to your highest guides. Please do get Journey of Souls by Michael Newton. I've been writing a follow up post for this thread for some time now and have it saved here, but will have to finish it and post it in a bit. Thank you so much, both of you, for commenting. :) It really is wonderful to have this place.
Here is the easiest way I can show what Dr. Newton suggests in this book, without searching for quotes (which I will still do, because I'm like that):
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From Journey of Souls by Michael Newton:
"Eventually, I concluded both our spiritual and physical consciousness project and receive light energy. I believe individual vibrational wave patterns represent each soul's aura. As souls, the density, color, and form of light we radiate is proportional to the power of our knowledge and perception as represented by increasing concentrations of light matter as we develop. Individual patterns of energy not only display who we are, but indicate the degree of ability to heal others and regenerate ourselves.
People in hypnosis speak of colors to describe how souls appear, especially from a distance, when they are shapeless. From my cases, I have learned the more advanced souls project masses of faster moving energy particles which are reported to be blue in color, with the highest concentrations being purple. In the visible spectrum on Earth, blue-violet has the shortest wavelength, with energy peaking in the invisible ultraviolet. If color density is a reflection of wisdom, then the lower wavelengths of white through yellow emanating from souls must represent lower concentrations of vibrational energy."
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(edited to add):
"Dr.N.: Okay, but will you help me straighten out these color schemes? Why is Karla's energy radiating yellow and Valairs blue?
S: That's easy. Valairs... precedes all of us in knowledge and he gives off a darker intensity of light.
Dr. N.: Does the shade of blue, compared to yellow or plain white, make a difference between souls?
S: I'm trying to tell you. Blue is deeper than yellow and yellow is more intense than white, depending on how far along you are.
Dr. N.: Oh, then the luminosity of Valairs radiates less brightly than Karla and she is less brilliant than your energy because you are further down in development?
S: (laughs) Much further down. They both have a heavier, more steady light than me.
Dr. N.:And how does Karla's yellow color vary from your whiteness in terms of where you are ggoing with your own advancement?
S: (with pride) I'm turning into a reddish-white. Eventually, I'll have light gold. Recently I've noticed Karla turning a little darker yellow. I expected it. She is so knowledgeable and good.
Dr. N.: Really, and then will she eventually take her energy level to dark blue in intesnsity?
S: No, to a light blue at first. It's always gradual, as our energy becomes more dense.
Dr. N.: So, these three basic lights of white, yellow, and blue represent theh development stages of souls are are visibly obvious to all spirits?
S: That's right, and the changes are very slow.
Dr. N.: Look around again. Do you see all the energy colors equally represented by souls in this area?
S: Oh no! Mostly white, some yellows, and a few blues.
Dr. N.: Thank you for clarifying this for me."
SabreToothMom
19th May 2015, 11:41
On an unrelated note (unrelated to the question of blue-violet light and unrelated to my post which attempts to correlate my own memories with those of people under hypnosis/regression, I mean)... I found this line of inquiry to be very, very interesting indeed (again, from Journey of Souls by Michael Newton):
"Dr. N.: Do you feel you are about ready to return to Earth?
S: Yes, I think so... I have prepared for it. But my studies are going to take such a long time in earth years before I'm done. It's kind of overwhelming.
Dr.N.: And do you think you will still be going to Earth when you near the end of your incarnations?
S: (pauses) Ah... maybe no... there is another world besides Earth... but with Earth people...
Dr. N.: What does this mean?
S: Earth will have fewer people... less crowded... it's not clear to me.
Dr. N.: Where do you think you might be then?
S: i'm getting the impression there is a colonization someplace else -- it is not clear to me."
Jimswitz
19th May 2015, 15:50
Fascinating.I've never come across stuff like this before.I can see I'm going to have to read these books.
Funnily enough,blue has always been my favourite colour;perhaps because of these childhood 'memories'.
Thanks again.
Marcus Du Noir
3rd June 2015, 23:13
I do have a vivid memory from my childhood of being in my mothers arms on a bus. I was unsettled and wanted to sit up, my mother disagreed and tapped my behind. Other passengers smiled and some laughed which left me embarrassed. I then cried with of thought of, "how dare they, its not fair"
Tenthmoon
16th September 2016, 22:03
I remember my birth. Pressure on either side of my head and being unable to move my jaws. I remember my grandmother holding me and my mother refusing to hold me. I also remember being in a hallway on my side in a hospital corridor looking into my mother's room and longing for someone to come and get me. I had a feeling of understanding obstetrics and the birth process and was annoyed that protocols were not being followed.
I remember being in a cot and crying. Screaming for what felt like an eternity. The sun was warm and I loved the feeling of the room I was in. When my father came and got me out of the cot I was into the floor inside a car tyre and was frustrated that these people were such terrible parents.
I remember just being a toddler and my mum wouldn't get up off the sofa. There was a music show on television - probably Countdown - and I even remember the song "I got you" by Split Enz. I was so upset that she wouldn't get me food and I was angry with myself for no longer having the ability to do all of the things I could do before I arrived with these incompetent people. I remember staring at her and thinking "of all of the women in the world you chose this one to look after you"...
I remember my grandfather coming to collect me and my belongings because we were going to live with them.
As a child I remember feeling that "aha" moment when the penny dropped that my mother was just a vessel to get me to me grandparents. She was adopted by them and I was to be their child. I've always considered them to be my parents and have memories of being present with them in the 40's and 50's. In fact, I've always been drawn to this time as remember being a midwife or nurse in those times.
As a child I was drawn to architecture and would spend hours trying to "remember" the layout of the unmarried mothers home that I had previously run or worked at. There were things that I remembered that I couldn't quite articulate as a child.
Throughout my life I've had this irritating feeling of having to "go through it all again" and that it was "easier last time". This time is complicated by more expectation and competition.
Iloveyou
17th September 2016, 08:00
Journey of Souls by Michael Newton
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mokurai/journey.pdf
Destiny of Souls by Michael Newton
http://www.unicusmagazine.com/PDF/Destiny%20of%20Souls%20-%20New%20Case%20Studies%20of%20Life%20Between%20Lives.pdf
Noelle
5th January 2017, 04:08
I had a pair of consecutive out of body experiences (OBEs), spread across two days, back in September. It could have been a glimpse of a death/rebirth in a past or parallel lifetime. The following are excerpts from my journal entries. If anyone has had similar experiences or insight to share, I would love to hear from you.
September 4
It was brief OBE. After being helped out of the physical by some being (unseen or unremembered), I found myself in a house. At first I thought it was my own home, but then I realized it wasn't. I kept saying "Go to Carrie," my sister who lives 30 miles south of me and who I have visited before while out of body. I went to a window and attempted to pass through it, yet I couldn't. Then I said "Go to Mom," who lives 1,000+ miles away and who I have also visited before while out of body. Suddenly, I flew into another room, a bedroom, at the opposite end of this house and saw an old woman lying on a bed. I looked at her and thought, “That isn't Mom.” This woman was still, thin, and frail, and her upper garment was all open, showing her chest. I tried to touch her, and I did, but she didn't wake up. I believe she was dead. Was this deceased woman me?
September 5
This was an ultra-lucid OBE. I was sitting down with a being, a human/humanoid male, someone I understood as important and who I recognized, though not in this lifetime. He seemed corporate, wearing a suit of some sort. I understood everything he was telling me as he spoke, only now I just remember the gist, that I needed to find what I am looking for. Then the process began, what I perceived as the dying process. I sensed being formless and being squeezed. With the squeezing, there was no imagery or sound. I wondered if I was going through the birth canal and about to be reborn. Then I found myself in a hallway. A hospital? I don’t know. I floated through the hall and saw other humans (adults), who didn't seem to take notice of me. Could they not see me? Or maybe they didn't care that I was there. I thought this was my new human life; however, my spirit was not in a new body yet—I was still floating along the hall. Wherever or whatever this was, I understood that all on the other side—my physical existence that I just left—I could not access. But I remembered to think of my body, and I was promptly back in the physical, surprised to be alive.
A couple of memories of the first half of the experience came back to me later in the day: I knew I would be leaving my family, and I was saying goodbye to them. There were children, I think two, though they certainly do not exist in this lifetime.
We think in pictures. That is how I communicate with the sparrows I feed and the stray cats that always adopt me as their Nanny. I know that my message gets through because they do what I tell them to do.
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29th May 2017, 17:22
Thanks everyone for sharing your stories! It is gratifying to know others have similar experiences!
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