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Earthlink
5th May 2015, 04:56
The Truth is, you don't exist.

You don't exist in this and neither do I.

How could we? Everything that is here was here and just like this when we were born. It doesn't matter at all who You are any more, the positions are scripted, posted and performed in perpetuity.

If there is any change in the script at all, it has to be shown that it displays an ability to **** them over even better at the same thing than what was there to begin with. If it can divide further, then it should be changed. If it can disempower more: so be it. If it can generate more, by all means.

The system really has taken over, all by itself, and the system itself does not even exist.

It is writ words.

You on the other hand are alive.

etheric underground
5th May 2015, 10:24
EXIST =
have objective reality or being.
synonyms: live, be alive, be living, have life, breathe, draw breath; be, have being, have existence, be extant.

I have to disagree with you ....I am and always have existed.

Earthlink
5th May 2015, 14:24
I am and always have existed too.

But in this wulrd, with these conditions, so what?

Whether you're born to an unwed teenager and live on the streets, or born to a named family and live in a corporate control room, both have to follow what was already here.

Tell me, do you feel you have free will? After Einstein and Tesla, do you think there will ever be any more named individuals who manage to side-step this system and actually be themselves and make great contributions?

Stymied at every intersection is how I see the path of your current journey, and You do not exist here: the system exists here: and nary the two should ever meet.

zakkyD1302
5th May 2015, 14:48
I agree with u it controls alot but it doesn't have full control that's why there are people still trying and your script is not written you can change what u wanna do at any moment. And the moment u haven given up that is the moment you are controlled. There will always be some kind of freedom I don't think the soul can ever be controlled even if ur reality is controlled u can still dream freely and if thwy could control a dream lol u can dream in a dream whoever created us made sure there is always a means of escape because what is reality anyways

Earthlink
5th May 2015, 15:55
Being born into poverty or being born into a corporate control room leaves very little room for one to change what they want to do at any given moment. I actually am one of the few classes who can do more of what I want in life than most, (not kidding) for I have now 9 trade licenses and was grandfathered as a professional engineer 18 years into my working career, and I will always be essential and people will always be happy to see me, since, the reason they call me is that they have no heat, no cooling, no water, or no power, etc. and they know that I'll fix whatever has malfunctioned, and even so, with a level of freedom unknown to most other professionals, I can not, for example, deconstruct this hideous electrical grid and its' high voltage towers that are all completely un-necessary.

We only need fractional amperages of current to do any work, if the production of the electricity is local, which, it could be in every case, and all of this constructed grid and all of these extremely high and deadly voltages both in the wires outside and subsequently in our homes and buildings serve only those born with these last names, and the voltage is only high because there was a need to send it out from central "power plants" (their own nightmare) over vast distances so as to hook up everyone everywhere.

Such a colossal waste of resources and materials and man hours, and yet, it is only, since the first men constructed it, being maintained indefinitely by those who had nothing to do with its' construct. They don't even need to understand it. All they know at this point is that they themselves are in a position to reap rewards for keeping it as it is, and so, they do.

And what if I wanted to stop this other industrial complex, the one that is killing everything here these days?!?!?!

Nope. The truth is we have no idea how to stop any of this any more, and the people there now only know that it is their "turn" at the helm, so, **** you.

Guish
5th May 2015, 16:22
Good points Earthy.

Reality is still a representation of the collective consciousness of people. Let's assume we had to build a country with Avalon people. The reality would be a different one. We influence each other with our presence. You could influence something just by being there and not doing anything. When I changed myself, people around me changed. I'm building a house in the middle of sugarcane fields this year. You can't completely get disconnected from material entanglement but you can be there and not there if you understand what I mean. I still need to pay taxes, pay my loans among other things but I live with the Minimum. No greed for more...

Earthlink
5th May 2015, 16:38
Thanks Guish. And as much as I adore your purposefully humble existence, there is absolutely nothing I can do to stop the bullet that is about to hit you, in what can only be described metaphorically as "being shot from the grave". There isn't anyone left alive from the beginning of these systems, and there is no counsel to seek guidance from in the maintenance of a system that began hundreds of years ago.

What we need now more than anything is for individuals to self recognize, and step up to the very position they have, and then to rule that system as if the present is all that matters, and therefore, themselves.

Don't just sit in the chair: own the chair. Breathe Life into it again.

Guish
5th May 2015, 17:10
Thanks Guish. And as much as I adore your purposefully humble existence, there is absolutely nothing I can do to stop the bullet that is about to hit you, in what can only be described metaphorically as "being shot from the grave". There isn't anyone left alive from the beginning of these systems, and there is no counsel to seek guidance from in the maintenance of a system that began hundreds of years ago.

What we need now more than anything is for individuals to self recognize, and step up to the very position they have, and then to rule that system as if the present is all that matters, and therefore, themselves.

Don't just sit in the chair: own the chair. Breathe Life into it again.


I already do what I can. I run a Faculty and I'm directly responsible for the careers of people. I've done it in the most selfless way possible and I've provided a platform for people to grow. I don't endorse the manipulative methods of managers in general and do things in the most transparent way possible. I don't fight the system openly like I used to do before but I've created my own universe and the energy in the Faculty affects the whole atmosphere of the school. Self responsibility, discipline, awareness and ultimately spiritual awareness are the keys. No one can control your mind.

etheric underground
5th May 2015, 18:31
You sound a little angry Earthlink and that is understandable in these times. There maybe disillusionment in our current now moment,
Lest we forget that many of us chose to come here for this now moment. I agree sitting in a chair debating existence isnt existing at all.
Many of us do the great work every day for we remember the reason we soul contracted here....
never fear for the ones to unlock this prison are here.

Mercedes
5th May 2015, 23:47
[QUOTE=... for the ones to unlock this prison are here.[/QUOTE]

Yes, WE ARE them.

Earthlink
6th May 2015, 15:34
A man decides after 70 years, that what he goes there for is to unlock the door.

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Guish
8th May 2015, 18:08
Earthy, I thought you'd like this.

http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/04/17/how-our-family-unplugged-from-the-matrix-went-off-grid/